1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf thanks to Joyce Main Darwin 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: homes own Stuart Highway, Berrima. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 2: And joining us live on the line is the Independent 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: member for Goid, Kezia Puric. Good morning to Eukezier. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 3: Oh, good morning now, Kezier. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: We had had you on the show a couple of 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: weeks ago to have a chat with us about the 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: concerns that you've got around the expansion of Palmerston the 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: council municipality areas to include some areas of the rural area. Now, 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: for those who miss that interview, what exactly are you 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: concerned about happening here? 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 3: Well, Katie, what it is? The Planning Commission has put 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 3: out a document called Parmesan and Environ Environ Subregional Plant. Now, 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: i'derhap that I say that the Planning Comission does not 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: have anything to do with local government boundaries and changing 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: them or recommended changes or whatever. I get that, and 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: that's not what this is about. Yeah, what it's about 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: is the fact one that has been known through the 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: consultation and if I hadn't asked this meeting this Saturday, 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: that Planning Commission would have not spoken to anyone. They 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: would have just had your computer stuff, have your stay 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: given that a lot of computer and NBM stuff in 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: the rules a bit hitting me. So that's not very good. 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: No shopping in the conversations and they market conversations just 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 3: telling people to read the document and any emails and 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: have your say. Now, that's not good to the engagement 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: at all. So that's the first problem. The second thing 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: is that whilst it's got nothing to do with local 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: government boundaries, this Parlatan Environs has covered over and colored 30 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 3: all of Virginia on the west side of Virginia Road 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: and all of Holt which does include my area which 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: I've got a vested interest of course, which is all 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: out area behind the hospital and COLWOUNDI, which is part 34 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: of the how it's been sort of area. Now, why 35 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: are they calling it Parlatan Environs when all those areas 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: are within the Lichfield Council boundaries And surely the name 37 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: should have been something like Parmerton literal Literville and Parmeston. 38 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: So there is perception. Is someone's reality if they believe 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: that this is what happening is going to happen in 40 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: the new digit, that's the reality is whether they're right 41 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: or wrong is a separate issue. Now the planet's mission 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: is a pain to say. Look, we're nothing to do 43 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: with local government. Is high level planning, and think of that. 44 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: Note curly, is the road going to go from Parmeersan 45 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: through the back blocks of Virginia to al I don't 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: known about that. Yeah, you can see the pathway the 47 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: surveyed road area. So my concern is that if you 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: aren't looking to do a new parmesan regional plan, just 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: stick to your parmesan boundary. We already know that the 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: government's going to serve up on a platter. The non 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: incorporated is you know, will shout and bear mars and 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: that that sort of stuff, which is another story. So 53 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: you know, what's my question is what's going on and 54 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: why seem to be this coincidental focus on Parmeerston. 55 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 4: We've got that. 56 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: That's public broadcast on TV and radios Lebanon about Parmestan. 57 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: You know how wonderful it is to leave in this 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: and gotten everything this comes out at the same time. 59 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: And as we say in my line of works, there's 60 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: no such thing as coincidence. 61 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: So been so easier. I mean, are they talking about here? 62 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: And you know, like I'm just trying to really get 63 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: to the nitty gritty of this. So are they talking 64 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: about these areas, these rural parts of you know, these 65 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: rural areas then falling. 66 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: Under Yeah, and so then would that mean then would 67 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: that mean that they are still part of the Litchfieldshire 68 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: when it comes to council elections or would they fall 69 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: under Palmeston. 70 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: No. No, As I said, the Planelas is not about 71 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: changing council boundaries. But these rulers are going to be 72 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: called under a Parmestan Regional Plant. So it won't be 73 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: too long into the near issue where someone says, stay 74 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: on a minute, we've got beginning and we've got holds, 75 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: we've got klanity all within the Parmestan Regional Plant. 76 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: Why the part of Parmesan And then you would have 77 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: another discussion about oh we should change. 78 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: The rate no or the rape and the bady no 79 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: go away. I have also been told padi Asa, I 80 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: get that the Minister Law, who's the parting Minister and 81 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: obviously member for the Palmers Mirror, has said that Pumpson 82 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: needs the more industrial commercial race bates. Well, that's not 83 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: a council's problem or our real people's problem. Do you 84 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: think that's what your Parmerston Council should have or that 85 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: Parmeston Council will have deal with it somewhere else? Well, 86 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: go go and look at those industrillaries if that's where 87 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: you want to build based for Parmeston. 88 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: And look, I do want to point out that I've 89 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: spoken to the Mayor of Palmerston, Athena pasco Bell, who 90 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: said that the only land that Dave looked at is 91 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: the unincorporated areas, so as you as you mentioned north Crest, 92 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: wish Ard, l Rundy and Tiverndale, but that it is 93 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: obviously a matter for the minister. It's not something that 94 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: the Palmeston Council gets to decide. But that's the whole 95 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: point here, isn't it That you know that everybody is concerned. 96 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: Of course, and I get it. 97 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 4: I know this has not been given by the Parmeston Council, 98 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 4: and you know, I take the thing passablit who would 99 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 4: this is being driven by. 100 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 3: The Northern Connecty government. And let's just look the fact 101 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: the Planning Commission is a government agency. It might be 102 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: a commission and it might have an independent chairman, but 103 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: it still takes its directions from them Minister and the government. Yeah, 104 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: so you know the Minister should have said, look, we 105 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: need to look at the Palmers there. You know, we're 106 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: looking at growth. You know, we've got this land around Holt, 107 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: around the hospital. You know, let's look at the parlatan situations. 108 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: Let's look at Litchfield. I mean, my question to the 109 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: planning bust is are you planning to have a Littfield 110 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: environed regional plan? You know, why shouldn't Lichfield be taking 111 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: over all of Pineland? Lichfield Council has the east side 112 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 3: of Pineland within its system and the west side belongs 113 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: to Parisans, So. 114 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: You reckon that, Really Lichfield should be taking over that area? 115 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: Yes, why not? Why not? Litterial? I mean, we all 116 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: grumble about our local government and you know, if you 117 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: don't like you voted, we're voting the next mob. Fan 118 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 3: goes for Parma, San goes for Darwin. People grumble about 119 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: the Lord mayth for lots of different reasons, look good 120 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 3: of it or otherwise. So why aren't we looking at 121 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 3: whether Litchfield Council is we increased in its commercial rate space? 122 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 3: Why this should be on the table as well, not 123 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 3: just looking at a Palmas and regional plans and then 124 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 3: pushing it over into the rual because you know, I'm 125 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: a suspicious person. It's just inerage of the wedge ptenially. Oh, 126 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: we've got a little bit of a dinner. We'll just 127 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: jump up the highway and to the other side of it. 128 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, well keise, Yeah, you know I'm a bit the same. 129 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: I'm always suspicious by nature. I am running out of time, 130 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: But can you tell us where is the where's the 131 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: public meeting happening on the weekend? So anybody, because I 132 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: know we've got a lot of listeners that live in 133 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: the rural area, so that they know exactly where they 134 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: can get involved. 135 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: Come on, come to the So that'son hall on bees 136 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: Creek Road. Just come on to Bee Creek Road, past 137 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: the school, past dictual council offices and you'll see it 138 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: on the lift. It's the hall. You can't it's it's 139 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: about three hundred meters down bees Creek Road, nine point 140 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: thirty this Saturday. I know it's a long weekend, but 141 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 3: it couldn't be helped because the time time to put 142 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: in comments is so tight. 143 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to have it this Saturday. 144 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: Otherwise you know, sometimes get the most amount of people. 145 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: You've got to have it sort of late afternoon or 146 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: on a Saturday morning. Otherwise that's that's top sing compilication, 147 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: you know, having it at two o'clock in an afternoon, 148 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 3: people at work. 149 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 2: And Tuesday, this Saturday, this Saturday, the Veterans Hall, Bees 150 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: Creek Road yep. 151 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: On Saturday. 152 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: Are you going to have government representatives there? 153 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, the Panic Commission has agreed to attend 154 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: to explain the plan and to answer these kind of 155 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: questions and perhaps the assurances for what that's worth that 156 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: this is not about potentially in the future government wanting 157 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: to change boundaries and also to ask about why haven't 158 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: we got to look for some regional plan on the 159 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: for the agenda for the near future for discussions. 160 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: Yep, well, fairpoint, fairpoint, I reckon yep. And counsel will 161 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: be there as well. Good stuff. Well Keith Keezy Epuric. 162 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: It is always good to catch up with you. We'll 163 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: catch up with. 164 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: You again very soon. 165 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: Thank you. Take that's Keesy Epuric there, the Independent Member 166 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: for Goid