1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: John Pinder, Good morning, made eight nine, How are you? 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 2: Good morning? How the devil are you good? Have you 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: seen the Sorry what. 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 3: I was going to say, you've been seeing those lyrics wrong? 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Yes, we were just talking about how much we love 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: that song. Love is espans. 7 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 3: Realize and obsession is and I want to and I 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 3: want and I want to. 9 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: What's the next bit? 10 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: It's an obsession, I believe. 11 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was serve your circumcision. It was 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 4: an advertising campaign for a penis. 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: If anyone's going to right there, I don't know what 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: a penis. 15 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 4: It's not a proctologistologists just doing urologistsion. 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: That's funny. 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never been on ball to hear it. But 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: that's specifically. Yeah, that's cultural. 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: You need more syllables to fit into the song if 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: you're going to use that. 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: Hey, have you anyway? You know MEA? That's what the 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: doctors said. 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 4: This is very Did you see this Optus thing that's happened. 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 4: So that the hackers have swiped a load of data 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 4: of Optics customers and held it for ransom and the 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 4: Optus have basically gone go on, then you wouldn't dare 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 4: all right? 29 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 2: Then and they did, and they did it, and then 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: they apologized. Did what they apologized? What the hackers did 31 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: they do? Sorry, just more I feel bad about it. 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: They told me to do it. If you're going to 33 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: blame anybody. 34 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: They got the willies when they thought the Federal place 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: were coming after them. 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: I think, is that Has it all been solved now? 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm with it. 38 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: I'm with it because people that we all got one 39 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: instantly about identity theft. 40 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: So I've not been following you as. 41 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: You might get the email. 42 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: No I and an email you're screwed. Yeah, yeah, not good. 43 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: So I know you've got to get a new license 44 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: or something. 45 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, they can do identity theft on You should just 46 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 4: keep an eye out if I come in here next Friday. Yeah, 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: and I'm like, hello, it's me. It's John Pinder. You know, 48 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 4: it's the usual John Pinder. 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: It's me. How funny after Cross, They're so funny. They're like, ah, 50 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 2: you know, it's just the usual me. Nothing suspect here. 51 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: Have you heard short? At the same time, I was very. 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: You's got to be careful. 53 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 4: Imagine though, imagine stealing, imagine stealing my identity? Thinking right, 54 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: come on, let's have a look at this bank account 55 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 4: and going right, turns out we're in about twenty five grand. 56 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: Attached there, and we need to get the car service 57 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: steal it. All you can do is improve it, have 58 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: at it, land enjoy yourself. 59 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: How was the credit rating? 60 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's in a right mess. It's 61 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 4: I just think it's a funny. It's probably horrible to 62 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: anybody that's like it's happened. 63 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: Ton't imagine anything worse than identity there, maybe an X wound, 64 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: but you know, I mean. 65 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: Just a serious Yeah. 66 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it just seems like such a funny thing to me. 67 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe because I can't. I can't imagine 68 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 4: what it would be like. 69 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: It would be awful, It would be awful. 70 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: Surely you just go and change all your things, and 71 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: that's not me. I hope it would be that easy. 72 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: But the stories I've heard people can be chasing up 73 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: things for you too late. 74 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 4: You know, if you've got split personalities, can they wipe 75 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: both of them? You never see anybody get their identity 76 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: stolen on the street there. You can't get a muggin 77 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: of it done. 78 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: You're really not taking it seriously. 79 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 4: With my distinguishing features you're reading your emails from chasing 80 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: them down the street. 81 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: Just this gray, amorphous cloud come is going to because 82 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: you're with I don't even know what it is. 83 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I mean it could, it could happen. 84 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: But I mean, what was there to stay. 85 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: Someone might be buying in your name about with what 86 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: you know. 87 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: Your account, and then you will owe the money for 88 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: the masai. 89 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: Pay I forgot it. I haven't got no money for. 90 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: But I'll want your money for the maserati for the 91 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: next you. 92 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: Know, and then I'll do optis for like compensation for 93 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 4: the stress of having the maserati stolen. 94 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: They'll have to buy me a new masara. 95 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: They were even having this conversation for the calm effector right, okay, yeah, 96 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: I'm not having anything to do with that. 97 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: The only reason that I'm making for of it is 98 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 4: because I'm in that transitional part of my life where. 99 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: I haven't got anything to steal what you want. I'm 100 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: stealing what you've got in the future though, Now that's true. 101 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's true. All right, Well what do we do? 102 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: What do we all do? Then just start again as 103 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 2: a person. 104 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't mind the idea John the will having two 105 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: John Pinders in the world. 106 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know which you're gonna get. Hi, guys, 107 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: it's got that one. 108 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: Well I heard this. 109 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: Morning you were doing that dinosaurs of you were passive. Yeah, 110 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: the effort for the dinosaurs. Have you been to it? 111 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: No, it's weird you have because of course yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 112 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 4: me and Mildred took the little and it's yeah, it's 113 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 4: really cool if you like dinosaurs and that you know 114 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 4: what I like about it. 115 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: They've got a lot of the proper. 116 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: Ones, you know, not the boring ones, like the ones 117 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: that walk on two legs. Yeah, the ones that are like, 118 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 4: you know, proper, the scary ones from the films, not 119 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: just yeah, not just boring all blake that might as 120 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 4: well be a cow, do you know what I mean? 121 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 4: There's some dinosaurs that are like nithery and o there. 122 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 4: It's like it's gonna beig club on its I don't. 123 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: Care what like a loss of raptor, got loss of 124 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: raptors and stuff. 125 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: And there's a massive one they've got, like the biggest 126 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 4: I think it's the biggest one that they've ever found. 127 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: It is a massive I mean, you might not think 128 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: it's that big cleary. 129 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 4: Because you're about you know, it's a big dinosaur, but 130 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 4: it's got like a rubbish name. 131 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: I can't even remember its name. 132 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: You know, if you're going to have like an enormous 133 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: scary dinosaur, you know you've got like terrans rex and 134 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 4: velossy wraptor this one's just Richiard or something. 135 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: It's just a robbit. 136 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: Yeah you want to name this memo? 137 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 2: You know what's bummed me out there? I've lost my love. 138 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 4: For dinosaurs a little bit because they now are saying, 139 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 4: they call the sciencey people, that it's very likely that 140 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 4: they were all covered in feathers. 141 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: Which really spoils it for me. 142 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: I liked them as big scary lizards and it turns 143 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 4: out they're just massive birds. 144 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 3: But what a sciety people know? 145 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: Don't you? 146 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: Aren't you on Facebook? 147 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: Well yeah, it just it just spoiled it for me. 148 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: They're less cool, aren't they chickens? Like finding out they 149 00:06:55,040 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 4: were all vegans after all boring. It can't make a 150 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: film about that, which is sad. That saddened me a 151 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 4: little bit. Oh so I've been thinking about you never 152 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: do you still have man caves? That was a thing 153 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 4: man cave before before the genders sort of blended together. 154 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: It's just a cave. 155 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just you said that was so serious. 156 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: Just I never know what desire. But it was a 157 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: thing a little while ago one it Oh he's in 158 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: the man cave. 159 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: It was such a typical thing. A shed in my 160 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: days they called it. No, I mean Dad would go 161 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: down to the shed he wanted to get some time away. 162 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: Where a man goes to get away from It's strange. 163 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 4: It's strangely and they're all the same, aren't they. Technically 164 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: they're all basically saying, if you posh, you might have 165 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 4: a pool table. But other than that, there's couch, big 166 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: Telly xbox. 167 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: Small fridge, my small fridge. 168 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, picture framed picture of Muhammad Ali. Yeah, they're all 169 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 4: typically the same thing. Perhaps your family crest. 170 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: That's a really bloking thing as well. Isn't it mean 171 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: a crime in Australia? No, they come back, they go 172 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: back further, don't they. 173 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: Tourist sho. Yeah, you know when you're watching the old 174 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: real estate shows when they talk about the main cave 175 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: was made in the two thousands. 176 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: Of the nineties. 177 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's such a like typical thing. 178 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't. 179 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: I'm currently rocking the minimalist man cave because I live 180 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 4: in a two bedroom apartment. 181 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: Fairly just it's just a toilet for nowlet I'm thinking 182 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: of putting a book in there. 183 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 4: It's an extra feature, but it's it's the minimalist man cave. 184 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: And you see, like often there's a picture of like 185 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: an ancestor that you know, like that was my great 186 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: great great great great great granddad. They make out that 187 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 4: they've got a connection to the old geezer. There's no 188 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: way you could have known anything about him other than 189 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 4: he was in the army. And it made me think 190 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 4: about all the people that are now thinking about their ancestryes. 191 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: And you notice when a show comes out like the 192 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 4: Vikings one, Yeah, yep, how many lads will go to you. 193 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: Yeah I'm descending from Vikings. Yeah, we're all worried pretty bad. 194 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 4: Like before it was back in the day. 195 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: We will worry. 196 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: We were all white. You're not a Viking. You've got 197 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 2: mister men under pats On, do you know what I mean? 198 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 4: You've got if you've got Instagram, if you're gluting, intolerant, 199 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: you know, if you follow a page that's just ferrets 200 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 4: doing funny things. You're not a Viking. Same thing happened 201 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 4: when that Connor McGregor got famous. Do you remember that 202 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 4: everybody was suddenly Irish? Now many Irish people, and all 203 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 4: you have to have done is gaze upon a potato 204 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: and you're claiming Connor McGregor's fame. 205 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm technically part of Irish. How would you 206 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: want his? 207 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: I don't know how people people do it. People are 208 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: will identifying with people that make them feel more confident. 209 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 4: I remember doing the same thing in my teen years 210 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: with Liam Gallagher. 211 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: And I never quite grew out of. 212 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: Did you have some Gallagher? 213 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 214 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: I think I think it helps people with their confidence 215 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 4: when they when the kids. You know, I think you're 216 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 4: supposed to grow out of it at some point. I'm 217 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: thirty five and I still haven't found a better aircut 218 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 4: that that works for me. So many people want me 219 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 4: to get me mop chopped. I can't do it. I 220 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 4: nearly choked. 221 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: Yourself to death this morning on dry shampoo. Have you 222 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: ever used that? 223 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: Somebody told me that I'm not supposed to use shampoo 224 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 4: every day, right, because that's what I do. I always 225 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 4: wash my air every day. It seemed thy Geni to me. 226 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 4: Then a hairdresser told me off they'd use that dry shampoo. 227 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 4: Don't use that dry shampoo. It's like gassing yourself. 228 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not powder. It's a spray. 229 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: It's a spray, but it's weirdly like powder. 230 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon. 231 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 4: You could see someone off with one of them if 232 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: you surprised them and sprayed it in the vade. 233 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 234 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like mace. 235 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 236 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: All right, all right, note John, you and your clean 237 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: hair next week. 238 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, have a good weekend, any man. 239 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 4: Lou