WEBVTT - Sonia Kruger - BIG BROTHER - Presenter

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last week that might welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>guys to TV Reload. As you may know, my name

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<v Speaker 1>is Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast to get

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<v Speaker 1>chosen podcast platform. On today's podcast, I have Sonya Krueger

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<v Speaker 1>who is back on the podcast to talk about Big

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<v Speaker 1>Brother Australia for twenty twenty three, which is starting its

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<v Speaker 1>fifteenth season on Channel seven this Monday night at seven thirty. However,

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<v Speaker 1>all is not what it seems with a spicy twist

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<v Speaker 1>to this year a house full of single and ready

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<v Speaker 1>to mingle housemates all looking for love, which coincides with

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<v Speaker 1>the return of Big Brother Uncut. Let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>you have to actually watch that series to believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Will Big Brother play Cupid with the housemates? Will he

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<v Speaker 1>mess with their relationships? Big Brother himself is very unpredictable

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<v Speaker 1>at the best of times, and this series is going

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<v Speaker 1>to offer something that has never been done in any

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<v Speaker 1>series around the world. God Log You winner Sonya Krueger

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<v Speaker 1>is more involved this time than ever before. Audiences will

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<v Speaker 1>see Sonya Krueger entering the Big Brother House to evict

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<v Speaker 1>the housemates this year, and that in itself is something

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<v Speaker 1>of a game changing moment that really works this series

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<v Speaker 1>on so many levels. We will talk about the housemates

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<v Speaker 1>and how the twenty twenty three series focus on love

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<v Speaker 1>will affect their gameplay all as Sonya something I've been

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to ask for a while, and that is if

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<v Speaker 1>she would let her own daughter enter the Big Brother

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<v Speaker 1>House when she turns eighteen. Sonya will also share why

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<v Speaker 1>entering into the Big Brother House in the morning can

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes be a little bit awkward for some of those

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<v Speaker 1>male Housemates, Plus, we will get plenty of exclusives from

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes of Big Brother Australia, which relaunches Monday

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<v Speaker 1>night at seven thirty on Channel seven, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be screened four times a week at that same time

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<v Speaker 1>slot with Big Brother Uncut available on seven Plus. Anyway, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>let's bring Sonya into the podcast and I really do

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<v Speaker 1>hope you enjoy this catch up with the Queen of

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<v Speaker 1>Channel seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Benjamin, Hi, Sonya, I think I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. I'm good. I think accidentally said that like

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother. Hello, Sonya, you did.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually he sounded just like you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my whole life, I've wanted to sound masculine. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>good to chat to you, although I did try and

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<v Speaker 1>call you back last.

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<v Speaker 2>Week, Oh what is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was really funny because I think

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote back to you and said I think I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was probably a pocketile at that point, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, when the Queen calls, you have to answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, which made me laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Ben, Oh my god, that's just so funny. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of fine though, because we've now paid each

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<v Speaker 1>other back because I pocket doled you once at four

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, and so Matt right right exactly, we're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of even a.

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<v Speaker 2>Much more civilized hour for Pokada someone.

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<v Speaker 1>Still to this day. I mean, I've told that story

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<v Speaker 1>to TV executives and they go white when they hear

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<v Speaker 1>that story. Anyway, Buddy, I want to say to you,

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<v Speaker 1>though I've spoken to you before many many seasons of

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother, but I've just realized something this morning, and

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<v Speaker 1>that you've now beaten Gretel Colleen's hosting record this year

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<v Speaker 1>this season, because you've now up to like eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's well, but I know I'm eight. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>realize that was over Gretel's record.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she did seven and now you've done eight, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're the winner.

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<v Speaker 2>What Oh gosh, I feel like I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>we feel like Gretel. I think because she was the

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<v Speaker 2>first host, she will always kind of be the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the queen of Big Brother. In my mind she still is,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's one of those things that you

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<v Speaker 2>never really you never really you're just kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>caretaker for these shows, you know. And so like Big Brother,

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<v Speaker 2>which has been going for so long now since to

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<v Speaker 2>WAT two thousands, what year did start? Two thousand and one?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, two.

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<v Speaker 2>Thousand and one, so that's twenty two years. They did

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<v Speaker 2>have a little rest, had a little lie down at

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<v Speaker 2>some point, but shows do that too, and I think,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think a show that goes for so long,

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<v Speaker 2>you're kind of a caretaker of it for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just lovely to have that experience.

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<v Speaker 1>But none of these housemates that you've got this year

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<v Speaker 1>would probably even know who grettl Colleen is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well this is you know what? Then you met the

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<v Speaker 2>points because they were when they first got into the house.

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<v Speaker 2>I could hear them talking about things like the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they were even born when Big Brothers started, or

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<v Speaker 2>you know that they have never seen the only the

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<v Speaker 2>only reference they had the Big Brother were the shows

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<v Speaker 2>that I'd posted, because that was there when they were

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<v Speaker 2>come growing up as teenagers. That was what they were watching.

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<v Speaker 2>So they had never experienced the early days Big Brother.

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<v Speaker 2>They'd only experienced the reincarnation of it. And it's an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting thing, isn't it, Because the evolution of Big Brother

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<v Speaker 2>is something that in equal parts I think fascinates and

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<v Speaker 2>also riles up the fans a little bit, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're a purists, you know, BB purists who want it

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<v Speaker 2>to be, you know, exactly as it was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>from gay Dots. And then there are others I think

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<v Speaker 2>who like the changes and are fascinated by the changes,

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<v Speaker 2>and really to survive in television, you kind of need

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<v Speaker 2>to keep evolving. I think it's a species we need

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<v Speaker 2>to keep evolving. So, of course isn't necessarily a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think, you know, can you imagine, because we

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<v Speaker 1>all remember sitting in front of our television if you're

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<v Speaker 1>old enough to do so, to watch that first episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Big Brother and meeting all these people, could you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine a tiktoking female farmer from Bendigo going into the

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<v Speaker 1>show twenty years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, because there was no TikTok and just so

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<v Speaker 2>many different social media platforms now that they still who

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<v Speaker 2>went in initially, like you know that Sarah, Marie Fidell and

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<v Speaker 2>Pep and Reggie. They didn't have Twitter, they didn't have Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't have they probably barely had a mobile phone.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, there wasn't a lot to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>take away from people, was there. But now their entire

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<v Speaker 2>kind of communications structure is gone and they only have

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<v Speaker 2>each other, and it's really, I mean interesting it's always

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to see the dynamic and write from the get

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<v Speaker 2>go of this series. Have you seen anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm up episode four and I've watched an episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Love the first week. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the arrivals. I love the choices that have

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<v Speaker 2>to be made at arrivals. I love the fact there's

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<v Speaker 2>a curveball kind of right off the top, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say my favorite thing about watching our

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<v Speaker 1>launch episode of Big Brother is you. They say that

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<v Speaker 1>with singing shows like The Voice and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>people turn in for the judges. They don't turn in

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<v Speaker 1>for the stars. I mean, you know, for the contestants.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I turn up for you to watch

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<v Speaker 1>your comedic talent in a live environment.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, Like Glee, it's worting. It's just having to make

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<v Speaker 2>a decision and I know one outcome is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be great and the other outcome not so much. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's terrible that to their sense of pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>I get out of it, but I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, you do it. Of course you can see

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<v Speaker 1>it all over your face.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when they sign up for Big Brother, he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to play trick. He's going to mess with your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to do all that stuff, So yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>there for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the housemates are looking for love this time, which

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<v Speaker 1>is really unusual for Big Brother. You know, we've heard

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<v Speaker 1>all the headlines. You know, it's like love Island in

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<v Speaker 1>a warehouse kind of thing. But do you think the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother is fit to play Kupid for a whole season?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, well, you do really play stupid, although he don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they can't. They don't need any help finding

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<v Speaker 2>love in the house if you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Benning put into that place. They're all just going for

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<v Speaker 1>makes a.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty good at finding it for themselves. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>saying the other day, you know how you know, Big

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<v Speaker 2>Brother evolved and it became very strategic, and these guys

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<v Speaker 2>they've got games, but it's not strategy. It's not a

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<v Speaker 2>strategic game. It's just game in the kind of dating world.

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<v Speaker 2>And and you can see, you know, the relationships forming

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<v Speaker 2>very early on in the piece. I was just really

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<v Speaker 2>surprised at how quickly, you know, certain people kind of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fell for each other, and then how others

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<v Speaker 2>there would be that like there's a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>love triangle that kind of goes on. At one point,

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's a fair bit of jealousy that occurs. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, if you're up to that city.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I mean, this is just what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when you put a whole bunch of people like this

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<v Speaker 1>in there, that you know, that are single and looking forward. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean there's going to be some swapping around.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe this person this week, maybe someone else

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<v Speaker 1>the next.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, did you say flopping? Interesting slapping?

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them might be slapping, sonya.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them might be flopping.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of racy. I keep thinking of you and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you've got so many double entendres on dancing

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<v Speaker 1>with the stars, but I always related to you in

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<v Speaker 1>the times that I've spent you. I kind of feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we're a bit prutish sometimes, So I wonder, are

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<v Speaker 1>you blushing? Are you blushing watching these people?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, world things prude. It's terrible. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to me. What a likely looking at they're kissing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, they're kissing like they're really CUsing. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think maybe mother now and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh god, that could be my daughter. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>young lup, what can you What can you do when

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<v Speaker 2>when somebody's you know, early twenty years and they're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they are all so excited to get into the house

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<v Speaker 2>and to meet each other and to make friends, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can't you can't really blame them. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it is. It is quite spicy.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just doing what twenty year olds do, though, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're going to put a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty year olds inside a house like that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even big brother packs they closed away at

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<v Speaker 1>one point. I mean, you kind of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to mention it because I just thought

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<v Speaker 2>the promo for that and I didn't know if we

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<v Speaker 2>could talk about it, whether it would be a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a spoiler. But the fact, I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the first addictions. They confiscate the house. Think,

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<v Speaker 2>rather confiscate the house, they close And I didn't find

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<v Speaker 2>out until I was just about to walk into the room.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's all new to me because normally I've talked

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<v Speaker 2>to them through a camera, I am not in the room,

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<v Speaker 2>and now I'm in the room and they're essentially native,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So that was that was interesting. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it and I really didn't know, look.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to look either. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the boys, because he was sort of covering himself up

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<v Speaker 1>and he was just wearing speeders, it kind of looked

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<v Speaker 1>like he was nude, like completely.

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<v Speaker 2>New exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know why I'm laughing at this, just like

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<v Speaker 1>seems so ridiculous. I love the idea though, that you

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<v Speaker 1>get to go into the house. If you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>house more than any other series of Big Brother that

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever been involved in before. Did it feel like

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<v Speaker 1>going into a zoo like as in I can imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so weird. It's such a weird feeling. First time

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<v Speaker 2>I went into the eviction, it was I felt really

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<v Speaker 2>kind of nervous because I was right there in front

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<v Speaker 2>of them, and they were even more nervous because all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, when I was talking to them through

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<v Speaker 2>a camera, I couldn't kind of keep eyes on everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you're sitting in front of them, you can

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<v Speaker 2>see in parishal vision if someone is talking to somebody else,

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<v Speaker 2>someone's rolling their eyes, or you know, there's reaction going

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<v Speaker 2>on around the room. You're much more present, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you're much more involved in the the The word for it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the unpacking of everything that's gone on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, and you're a very good observer. You're always

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<v Speaker 1>absorbing and watching and you're sort of evolving your opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think it's the best thing about this

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<v Speaker 1>new series. And I'm surprised we have taken so long

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<v Speaker 1>to get to it, you know, we're up to season sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is for the host to be inside

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<v Speaker 1>the house watching them, and it's really worked for you. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that whole what do they call it, whether

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing the where they sort of have to plead,

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<v Speaker 1>what's that room called the not the King and Queen, No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no, no no, the room where they deal with the evictions.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that the eviction room or whatever it is, the

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<v Speaker 1>fiction room. Yeah, that all works much better than it's

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<v Speaker 1>ever worked before this season with you being in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is kind of I mean I found it

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<v Speaker 2>really right up until the point where I say it's

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<v Speaker 2>time to go, because there are three people, say in

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<v Speaker 2>the hot seats, and I found I had to look

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<v Speaker 2>above them. I couldn't look at them because if I

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<v Speaker 2>look at them while I was saying those words, it

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<v Speaker 2>was like me, she's looking at me, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, really not to actually make eye contact with

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<v Speaker 2>anyone as I was saying those words it's time to go.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was really it was a learning curve for

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<v Speaker 2>me as well, because you know, there moments where things

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<v Speaker 2>get really hated, you know, and there are must where

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of emotions, you know, somebody upset or

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<v Speaker 2>there's you know, or it just gets completely out of

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<v Speaker 2>control and someone's yelling at somebody else, and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I thought was really funny was that

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<v Speaker 1>I remember you saying in my series of Big Brother,

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<v Speaker 1>which now is eleven years ago. So in twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>you made this comment Josh, and you said, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>He flirted with you on camera and it was live

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<v Speaker 1>and this is where Brugs you do the best work

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<v Speaker 1>is when you're live and off the cuff. And you

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<v Speaker 1>said to him, mate, I've got t shirts older than you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've eaten cheese just to show like it's just so good,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, it was gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>He was really like, yeah, really harsh.

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<v Speaker 1>But over the years, contestants have flirted with you on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you remember a contestant that's flirted with you? The hardest.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's a really good question. Do you know the

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<v Speaker 2>time I'm oblivious to it, I think, and the other

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<v Speaker 2>housemates pick up on it. Somebody throws something out that

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<v Speaker 2>is a bit clotatious. I kind of end up just

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<v Speaker 2>carrying on, but the other housemates will definitely clock it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's sort of like stopped sucking up the son

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<v Speaker 2>stopped trying to be the piece's pets, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's really really funny. It's like, most of the time,

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<v Speaker 2>it goes straight over the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's true though, because I think that there was

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<v Speaker 1>oh I don't know, there was probably like eight men

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<v Speaker 1>in my series, and my admiration through you was different

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<v Speaker 1>because you've got the wrong plumbing for me. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just remember that all the boys were obsessed with you.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, which, who do you think Sonya would

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<v Speaker 1>be with that of all of us, and they almost

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<v Speaker 1>got into a fight over it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny because they're having series where I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>which one was exactly, but I could hear the housemates.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of the guys actually because I've taken them

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<v Speaker 2>to task over some behavior and they really did didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like it. And I could hear them really having a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a moan about me after the show, because

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<v Speaker 2>I was back in my dressing room and it was

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<v Speaker 2>quite funny sitting there listening to the speech about you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can hear them. But that's the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>about Big Brother, you know, when you know we would record,

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<v Speaker 2>we would play back and said the last supper sample

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<v Speaker 2>and here's what everybody said about you through the series,

0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.920
<v Speaker 2>and there was some really you know, it's a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of an eye opener. All it does to me is

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<v Speaker 2>it just reinforces that idea what other people think of

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<v Speaker 2>me is none of my business.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very true. But I mean it's also the very

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<v Speaker 1>essence of this show. You know. We love to be

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<v Speaker 1>a fly on the wall. We love to hear the

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<v Speaker 1>things that people would say when they think that people

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<v Speaker 1>are not listening, do you know what I mean. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's kind of the minutial that's Big Brothers. Why

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<v Speaker 1>it's been so successful globally, you know, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly in the UK have just they've just come back

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<v Speaker 2>with Big Brother too, and it's it's interesting. I did

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<v Speaker 2>see an article we have that I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I don't know what the future is the

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<v Speaker 2>big but it did reference sort of going back to

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<v Speaker 2>that live environment and it's really interesting to see whether,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we ever would find ourselves doing evictions live again,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because there is something in the I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the electricity of the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>It has public lists come out. I think that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>And also the programming Department have actually referenced the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that whilst Big Brother UK is on, they've got eyeballs

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<v Speaker 1>on it to see how it goes and how that

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<v Speaker 1>how that exists and whether we could do it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, producers have also said for many

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<v Speaker 1>years you kind of Australia watches, America and the UK

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<v Speaker 1>have got more money to try these things again and

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<v Speaker 1>see if they work and if it does work in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK, which I'm watching it by the way, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like being in a time machine because you know

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<v Speaker 1>it is it does have all of these elements of

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother. That's that was from twenty years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>right it's just fascinating. So look, I mean I hope,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that they both can exist in a weird way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's I think I think they can coexist. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you can. You can cut together a great show,

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<v Speaker 2>which is essentially what used to happen back when Big

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<v Speaker 2>Brothers started. Anyway, the daily show was cut from the

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<v Speaker 2>day before. It turned around really quickly. That's right. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there is a way we can we can

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<v Speaker 2>sign to make those two things coexist. So and again,

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<v Speaker 2>it just gets back to the evolution, doesn't it of

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<v Speaker 2>the show? Any show? I think, you know, most shows

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<v Speaker 2>change a little bit, you know, year and year out.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you look at art even and you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the way and we're culture and trends, we circle

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<v Speaker 1>back fashion, you know, absolutely we circle back.

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<v Speaker 2>So fashion, I'm not actually son, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can wear a garbage bag. I don't know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. Where anything any fashion came back. High stockings,

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<v Speaker 1>low stockings, nose stockings, it's all happening. It's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Stocking, do you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Shoulder pads, working girl, It's fine. But I think with

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<v Speaker 1>this new series, and I know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, oh, it's dating now, but what I find

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<v Speaker 1>Big brother also really works with relationships on these shows

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<v Speaker 1>and watching young people. For me, now I sound so

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<v Speaker 1>old watching young people dating as me and my forties

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<v Speaker 1>is actually really fascinating to see whether men are chivalrous

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<v Speaker 1>anymore or do girls want them, you know, the doors

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<v Speaker 1>to be open for them. You know, how does all

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<v Speaker 1>of this work these days? That's what this series is

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<v Speaker 1>doing really well.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Yeah, what's changed and what hasn't. I mean, at

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<v Speaker 2>the heart of it, you know, chemistry and attraction and

0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.600
<v Speaker 2>those kinds of things. They're unquantifiable and you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how it's going to happen, who it's going to happen with.

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<v Speaker 2>It just happens. But how people operate and exist in

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<v Speaker 2>those relationships is definitely has definitely changed. I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the girls at one point, I think you

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<v Speaker 2>see the girls who are kind of like band together,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's an interesting dynamic in itself because there's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a girl power moment in there. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't really say which way it goes because that

0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:08.880
<v Speaker 2>gives the game away, but just the cohabitation I think of, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the guys and the girls and how society is evolving.

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<v Speaker 2>There's that word again. It's so weird, isn't it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>about yeah, And I think that's the thing I think people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's big brother twenty years ago. There were

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things that happened that would not happen today.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, a lot of things have probably said that

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<v Speaker 2>would not be said today. So these are all things

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<v Speaker 2>that are reflected. And I guess that's the thing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a big mirror, isn't it. The show. It's just a

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<v Speaker 2>giant mirror, and we're looking at ourselves on television.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so it's so interesting because we've seen so many

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<v Speaker 1>love stories play out over the seasons of Big Brother,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of been like a touch point of

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<v Speaker 1>the series that's, you know, someone there's a love story

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<v Speaker 1>that we always follow. And what I find interesting about

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<v Speaker 1>this as well is that we're following multiple love stories.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The fascinating insight to me is the different

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<v Speaker 1>dynamics in ways in which relationships work. And in the

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<v Speaker 1>first week that a boy and a girl who almost

0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:05.040
<v Speaker 1>have like a a brother sister type friendship but that

0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:08.280
<v Speaker 1>could almost be a romance like and then too quickly

0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.480
<v Speaker 1>get into bed together, which is you know, that's also

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<v Speaker 1>very different. We're watching multiple versions stacked on each other,

0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:18.800
<v Speaker 1>which makes it really fascinating to see how people enter relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how people enter them and then how they exit them,

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<v Speaker 2>because not only do we have the hookups, there are

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<v Speaker 2>also a couple of breakups in there too. It's really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting and betrayal and the betrayal thing is big for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I always think, wow, you know, if you were put

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<v Speaker 2>in this situation and you had to choose the person

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<v Speaker 2>you've fallen in love with in the house or continuing

0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.640
<v Speaker 2>in the game, what would you do? You know? And

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<v Speaker 2>so it poses those kinds of moral questions as well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great to see. I'm really fascinated to see how

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<v Speaker 2>this series goes and whether people really embrace it. When

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<v Speaker 2>Big Brother, I think, you know, on free to air

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<v Speaker 2>it still does good numbers by free to air standards,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's catch up where it does massive figures. People

0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.399
<v Speaker 2>who get on their iPad at night and go to

0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.360
<v Speaker 2>seven plus and watch Big Brother on catch up, which

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:07.880
<v Speaker 2>is frantically That's how I would do it too now

0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:09.840
<v Speaker 2>because I want to watch TV when I want to

0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.960
<v Speaker 2>watch it. So when we add those figures in, it's

0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.479
<v Speaker 2>still a million people watching the show. So that's a

0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:17.280
<v Speaker 2>massive number.

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<v Speaker 1>It's huge. It's huge to see these people coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's how people are watching television these days,

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<v Speaker 1>people are catching up. If you look at the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of these shows that are having on

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<v Speaker 1>that secondary channel like seven plus, you know you are

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<v Speaker 1>getting a lot of people watching it in their own time.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how people want to watch television.

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<v Speaker 2>But these guys who are coming through, they probably don't

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<v Speaker 2>even own a TV. People in the South, and maybe

0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:42.640
<v Speaker 2>people under the age of forty even bother buying television.

0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.120
<v Speaker 2>They just watch on their laptop. They watch on their iPad.

0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:47.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean I watch most of my television now on

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<v Speaker 2>an iPad. Yeah, And I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are doing that. So you know, come as long as

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<v Speaker 2>they come and watch it, who's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, who cares? But you know, leaning into just really

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<v Speaker 1>quickly what you were saying about breaking up with someone,

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<v Speaker 1>I've studied Big Brother, and I studied it for years

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<v Speaker 1>before I did it myself, and maybe that's probably how

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<v Speaker 1>I did so well. But I remember one of the

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<v Speaker 1>female contestants, Leilah Sabritski, she entered into a relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>George really early on, and she said to me, I

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<v Speaker 1>sall Leila, and she entered in this relationship and she

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<v Speaker 1>then fell in love with the intruder that came in

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<v Speaker 1>while she was still with George, and I remember she

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<v Speaker 1>had a very clear conversation with me, which was if

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<v Speaker 1>I and she was a Big Brother officionado from the

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<v Speaker 1>UK and so she watched it as well, and she

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<v Speaker 1>said to me, Ben, I er, if I leave George

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<v Speaker 1>to be with Sam, Australia will hate me, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in Big Brother. You can't swap a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>without the audience turning on you. So this will be

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting about how they swap relationships and whether that

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<v Speaker 1>impacts the way in which audiences will vote for them

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<v Speaker 1>in that final degree. You know, yeah, exactly will you

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<v Speaker 1>vote for someone who cheated on their partner in the show?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? Like, it's fascinating, is the question.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I can't wait to find out. Yeah, yeah,

0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:03.080
<v Speaker 2>because I have you have your views, and it's an

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<v Speaker 2>Australian and I'll be fascinated to see which way it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously I know he gets to the end,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know what the outcome is. We won't

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<v Speaker 2>know until it goes to end. So it'll be just

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting to find out how it plays out with

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<v Speaker 2>the public.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, absolutely. And you know, those people have been waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time to find out, Sonny. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to know. I don't where are they? Do they have fingernails?

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Theft are they are? Okay? Now, yeah, before you guys

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask you. It was interesting. I was listening

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<v Speaker 1>to Kylie Minogue we can call it just Kylie, but

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<v Speaker 1>listening to her on an interview the other day and

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<v Speaker 1>they asked her about her albums. They said, you know what,

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 1>how do you describe your albums? And she referred to

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 1>them as drinks? And I want to ask you about

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.399
<v Speaker 1>the shows that you've got on seven. If Dancing with

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<v Speaker 1>the Stars is Champagne, what is the Voice? And what

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<v Speaker 1>is Big Brother? Because I feel like we're right. I mean,

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:57.119
<v Speaker 1>it's an obvious one to say that Dancing with the

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<v Speaker 1>Stars is Champagne, but what are the others?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Oh gosh, I mean you know what, I ah,

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 2>this is really tricky. I think I think Big Grub

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 2>is definitely a margarita.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah me, yeah, spicy mark last season, Sonya.

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a bit of a spiky Marky season.

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<v Speaker 2>If I would say, I would actually say that the

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.639
<v Speaker 2>voice is Champagne and Dancy was the thousand of the

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:25.399
<v Speaker 2>dirty Martini, just a little dirty, little dirty.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll need a couple of shots after being with Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Chris next year. I can't wait to see that, Like,

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 1>oh me too.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so I'm so excited. I think it's just going

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 2>to be the most fun ever.

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I watched the intro to the logis of you two

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<v Speaker 1>doing the red carpet and I was like, this is magic,

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:44.479
<v Speaker 1>This is magic. They need to do more together, like

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>it's it's just going to be so funny. Congratulations on

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the Gold Logo win, by the way, because you know

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:51.879
<v Speaker 1>we talked about you winning a Gold LOGI because I

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:53.680
<v Speaker 1>told you that you were going to win one three

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:58.160
<v Speaker 1>years ago on this podcast and you laughed and said

0:24:58.480 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 1>it's never going to happen, never.

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Going to friends. Well, and still I still can't quite

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 2>believe that it did happen. It still feels so surreal.

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 2>It's weird. I was talking to Hamish afterwards, yeah, and

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 2>he said to me, I don't said, I don't think

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 2>anyone really understands how surreal that moment is. And it's

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 2>just it's it's it is quite extraordinary. But you know,

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 2>it's lovely to be part of that club. Because I

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 2>don't think over the course of the sixty years of

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.880
<v Speaker 2>the logis, I think there's only something like fourteen women.

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Got twice, which is like and I think she was

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the last person to oh, yeah, that's right, we can.

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.239
<v Speaker 1>That's a small audience though, because the men have got

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>these gold lokis for so long. So I was crying.

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 2>And it's funny because my little girl goes to a girls' school,

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:45.360
<v Speaker 2>and it was kind of like the mums all rallied

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 2>and they were like, well, we want you to win.

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 2>We want the girls to see that women can succeed

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.959
<v Speaker 2>in their profession and that they can they can, they

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:56.200
<v Speaker 2>can win because they always had to go to the guys.

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 2>So I think that was really tweet. It meant a

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 2>lot to Maggie for me happy Just the thing that

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 2>made me most happy was seeing her face when I

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 2>brought that gold trophy home. She was really so proud.

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I had tears and mise because I thought of all

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 1>of that. I thought of Craig, I mean, your partner,

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought of I thought of all of those things,

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:18.199
<v Speaker 1>and I've just thought of how iconic it was and

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>also just how humble you've been with your career and

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you'd said that's not on the cards

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>for me. You know, I've got I've got the goosebumps

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 1>now thinking about it. But you know, is Maddie like

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 1>eight years old?

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Now, yes, she is eighty eight, she's eight. And you

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 2>mentioned Craig. But the hilarious thing was the next morning

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.640
<v Speaker 2>when they replay that moment, you know, like on Sunrise

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:42.479
<v Speaker 2>with the news, and I didn't realize the people had

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:45.199
<v Speaker 2>been texting me going, how cute was Craig patting you

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 2>on the head? So I got to hug h he

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 2>passed me on the head, like as all, what are

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 2>you patting me on the head? What do you do?

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think that because that's real moments.

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>So like you do the most strangest things, you know,

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>when something real like that happens, like that's it happened.

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And because the moment you won big brother, can

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 2>you can you remember any of that?

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Have you watched that? I feel bad for you. So

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I still feel bad to you to this day because

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the memory I do have a view was that you

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:21.119
<v Speaker 1>were incredibly supportive. I think you were very aware that

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 1>there was going to be an engagement, so you were

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>trying to work out how that was all going to

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>play out.

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, my fingers crossed.

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 1>I think you were trying to like but I just

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>remember being so electric, fired, electrocuted that I actually watching

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 1>it back. I felt dangerous standing next to you, like

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I was going to explode or spin around and knock you.

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:41.679
<v Speaker 1>But I felt bad for you. I was like this

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>poor professional TV producer having to stand next to you, know,

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 1>a nobody who auditions for Big Brother that's just lost

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>their mind, you know, for you.

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Myself, it's such a great moment. I mean, I love

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:56.439
<v Speaker 2>seeing people win things I do. I do like we

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 2>were talking about, they go into the house and I

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 2>love I love watching Big Brother Victom. I also love

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 2>some people win and should be and Eve it's great,

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 2>it's great, and that's why that's what keeps us coming back.

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, we want to see who's going to win,

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 2>who's going to win this year?

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, I have no idea looking at all these people

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 1>at this point of this game, I'm like, I've got

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.239
<v Speaker 1>no idea. But you know, the point I was going

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to make to you about Maddie is that in ten

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 1>years time, when she's eighteen, would you let her go

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>into the Big Brother House.

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh you know what was get adult and free to

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 2>make her own choices. I think at that point, what

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>I would you know, what if I had to assu

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 2>I should we did some singing lessons, maybe you know

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 2>the voice. I'd love to hear from the voice. But again,

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know if she's probably inherited my

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 2>singing talent, which is zero. So whereas I do think

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 2>she do well in the Big Brotherhouse because she's essentially

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 2>a bit of an only child, so she would kind

0:28:55.640 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 2>of I think she makes friends really easily and that

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>she has to, you know, so she probably went.

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Imagine that you're hosting it in ten years time and

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>your daughter's in the sheld. She's one. It's rigged. So

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I have to let you go because this has been

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit longer than we expected. But I always

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>love talking to you. How I finished the podcast every time,

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and this is your fifth So you and Alex Mevodika

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>is now tie on the most amount of time. Oh

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Abby Chatfield as well, tie all three of you with

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>being on the podcast the most. What is something from

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes of this new season of Big Brother

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>not like peeling back down in or revealing too much,

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>but maybe something funny from yourself, maybe a funny anecdote

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>of something that went down while you were filming this one.

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Ah gee, well you did you know how I did

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 2>that early morning eviction wake up call?

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I don't know where this is going, but

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm already.

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's say that's an interesting environment walk.

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>No mol sonya, I don't think that. Yeah, we don't

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>need to. It'll be on the young cut anyway. Sonia,

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>you are honestly one of my favorite people on television,

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>have been before i'd even met you. I am so

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>elated that you're still making the show and making it

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>sing as well as you do. I can't wait to

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>be on this journey with the rest of the Australia

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and watch it all. And yeah, thank you for your

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>generosity with your time. Yeah, for sure every year the

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>rest of my life.