1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda gem Nation. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: Look, if you're not following hashtag Sophie from Romania on Twitter, 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: you're truly missing out. For all the nasty, polarizing things 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: you see there. This is an absolute jem. I feel 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: emotional even talking about this story. It's amazing. I've been 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: following this for some time. It follows a rescue dog's 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: international journey to find a safe I'm loving home in 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: the UK and I don't know why I'm crying, but 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: this story has been remarkable because this dog has been 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: so traumatized. The man bringing us the joy, the hardships, 11 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: the milestones of Sophie from Romania is his owner, his dad, 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: an ex BBC journalist Rory Callan Jones, and he joins 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: us now, Hi, Rory, Hi there, Rory. 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: I blame cat, not cat the animal, but cat Stevens. 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 3: As soon as you put I love my Dog on 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: Everyone's going to start going there and going the blob. 17 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 2: That's right. This has been an beautiful story, Rory. And 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: when you first got Sophie, I know you said you 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: bought a dog lead. You put it near the door 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: because you thought this would be one of those stories 21 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: where this dog comes into your home, licks your face 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: and suddenly this energetic part of the family and Sophie's 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: story hasn't been that. 24 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: It hasn't no, and we had great expectations. I've had 25 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 1: a lovely dog called, believe it or not, Cabbage, which 26 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: died at the beginning of last year, and we took 27 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: some time to get over that and got this new dog. 28 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: We got her from Romania. We found it difficult to 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: find a suitable dog in the UK. She arrived in 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: our home the Saturday before Christmas, and that morning I thought, 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: this is great. I'm going to be able to take 32 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: a dog for a walk for the first time for months, 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: part of my morning routine, part of my fitness regime 34 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: really as a man of a certain age. And it 35 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: wasn't to be. This was a traumatized, terrified dog who 36 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: spent a large part of the first few months he 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: was with us behind the sofa. She didn't come out 38 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: except at night, and she certainly wasn't going to come 39 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: for a walk with me. 40 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: So what was her story? Why is she so traumatized? 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting because a lot of the dogs that 42 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: arrived from Eastern Europe, they've been street dogs, they've had 43 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: a hard time. She had been abandoned as a puppy, 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: but she's then been looked after in a barn by 45 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: the by the father of a vet who'd found her 46 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: before she joined us. I think she was traumatized by 47 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: being taken away from the only environment she knew, the 48 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: rural Romania, put in a van, driven across Europe for 49 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: three days. I mean, treated well, well fed and everything, 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: but it kin'd of been It must have been so different. 51 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: And then she suddenly finds herself in a house. She's 52 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: never been in the house before, she's never met, you know, 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: strange people before, and she she just can't go with it. 54 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: And it's been we're three months in now, and it's 55 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: a long, slow journey and you've seen it. Thousands of 56 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: people who have seen it because I put it, put 57 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: it on social media, and it seems to be sort 58 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: of captivated people. 59 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: So really, you're to blame. I thought it was coming 60 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: from some war torn area or something like that. We're 61 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: going to put in a van and I was in 62 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 3: that great paddocks and stuff. 63 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: And ouns in Well, she's she's lucked out in a way. 64 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: She's in a home with two people who care for her. 65 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: You know, everything's there for her food. We bought a 66 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: bed for her. She's not slept on it. She's behind 67 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: the sofa right now. Actually she does come out. She 68 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: goes in her garden at least, and she races around that. 69 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: But we've yet to put a lead on her and 70 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: take her out. We tried that the very first day. 71 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: She dug her heels in. She wouldn't move. She dies 72 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: behind the sofa and stayed there. 73 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: And I know that. You know, there's footage of her 74 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: coming out to take a small piece of cheese. And 75 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: that's and I said to my husband, Sophie's taken some cheese, 76 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: and he goes, WHOA. People on the other side of 77 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: the world are cheering because she's taken a piece of cheese. 78 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: But do you think do you think she'll get there? 79 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: Oh? God, I hope. 80 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: I mean. 81 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she will. It's just we're taking advice 82 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: from a dog behavior. It's to's saying you can't rush this. 83 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: You've got to go at her pace. She's gradually learning 84 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: the tru justice. She's better with my wife than me. 85 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: The trouble is my wife is a professor in Cambridge. 86 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: She's away the first three days of the week. We're 87 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: Sophie and I are home alone at the moment, and 88 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: she is right now behind the sofa. She came out 89 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: for a little bit of steak. I had I add 90 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: a steak to my dinner and left the plate by 91 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: the sofa. She came out, snaffled the steak and back 92 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: behind the sofa. But she she has over the weekend. 93 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: She actually got came out during the evening and was 94 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: quite playful. She found the bed that she still reviewses 95 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: to sleep on. She found a toy and took it 96 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: away and ripped it up so that we were encouraged 97 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: by that. That was you know, that was brave Sophie. 98 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: Well there you go, and the irony Sophie from the sofa. 99 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: That's Sophie from the behind the sofa. And even though 100 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Sophie isn't you're not having an experience that you imagined. 101 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: Has it been an extraordinary time? 102 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: It has been this extraory timing. It's actually been an 103 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: emotional royal coaster. I found myself. I don't sleep very 104 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: well anyway. I've got parking either. One of the symptoms 105 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: of that is not not good sleep. But I have 106 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: been waking at four am and worrying about my dog, 107 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: which is not good, you know, worrying about if she 108 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: gets sick, how would I get her to the vat 109 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: when we can't even get a lead on her, you 110 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: know how, how are we going to frankly go away 111 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: on holiday because we can't leave her with anybody because 112 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: she's so painfully shy. 113 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: Well still, she'd be behind the catch though, so that 114 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 3: wouldn't be a bad true, it would be easy. It's 115 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: not like Cooja, not like Sophie's a savage dogs and 116 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 3: the journey is great. You can check it out. You're 117 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: on Instagram. Follow Rory on Instagram at Rory Skellon Jones 118 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: and on Twitter at Ruskin one four seven. Rory, thank 119 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: you for joining us. 120 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: Thank you it's been great. 121 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Rory. 122 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: So hard to sayhie for us. 123 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: It's three to seven. 124 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful story.