WEBVTT - How to stop self-sabotaging and reach your full potential 🏆

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<v Speaker 1>Over the last week, I have had one of the

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<v Speaker 1>very simple but extreme pleasures of teaching my little girl, Charlie,

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<v Speaker 1>who just turned three, how to ride her new pink bike.

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<v Speaker 1>And we haven't had any major praying chats, so perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of it, touch Wood, But the enjoyment on

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<v Speaker 1>her face is beaming smile as she can. You can

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<v Speaker 1>tell she feels like she's getting the hang of it

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<v Speaker 1>at rush as she gets a bit of speed up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just been a beautiful reminder of sometimes we search for,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we search for that super complicated or I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, technical or materialistic pleasure that we think is

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<v Speaker 1>going to change our life in a particular way, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are so many beautiful, simple joys just surrounding us,

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<v Speaker 1>and often we make life a bit more complicated than

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to be and we forget about these simple pleasures.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's my point, and that sort of leads

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<v Speaker 1>me to today's guests a little bit in today's show,

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<v Speaker 1>because life is complicated, and today we're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>to a topic that is really close to my heart

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<v Speaker 1>because of the amount of people through my twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>program that have labeled themselves in this particular way and

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<v Speaker 1>that is we're going to get into the topic of

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<v Speaker 1>self sabotage, which is something that I don't understand fully

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm really looking forward to understanding better, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that I know affects a lot of people out there.

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully we can identify what self sabotage is and

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<v Speaker 1>give some really practical steps by speaking to an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>clinical psychologist about how we overcome it. And then as

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<v Speaker 1>we start to get on planes and trains and take

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<v Speaker 1>those much needed holidays, naturally you lose your routine a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, you lose your habits a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 1>when you're on holiday, you struggle to maintain the healthy

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<v Speaker 1>structure and the healthy routines that you build up. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about how you can maintain the

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<v Speaker 1>healthy life while your own holiday life.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm lucky enough to be heading away internationally on a

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<v Speaker 2>holiday after a long, long, long time in lockdown, just

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<v Speaker 2>wondering what your top tips are when it comes to enjoying,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely still enjoying, but sticking to as much as you

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<v Speaker 2>can a routine, getting the exercise in, particularly when you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a bit of a foreign surrounding, not as familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with the foods.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be giving you a holiday plan a little later

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<v Speaker 1>in the show. I'm Sam Wood. This is the wood Life.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it. This is a guest that I've

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to have on the WOODLFE for a little while now,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a topic that I've absolutely been wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>cover almost since The wood Life came about. And the

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<v Speaker 1>topic we're going to dive into is one that's really

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<v Speaker 1>close to my heart because it's something that I get

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<v Speaker 1>asked about a lot through my twenty eight program. We're

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<v Speaker 1>sort of going to get into that and touch on that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would love to first of all, welcome doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Rebecca or beck Ray. Welcome to the wood Life.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for having me Sam. It's such

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<v Speaker 3>a great topic for us to be diving into. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't wait to have this chat.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we do dive into I'll give our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a background, because you are one

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly impressive woman. You are a clinical psychologist, but interestingly,

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<v Speaker 1>you were studying psychology and then you took a little,

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<v Speaker 1>well not a little, a fairly large turn to the

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<v Speaker 1>left and you became a pilot.

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<v Speaker 3>I did. I was quite an anxious teenager and my

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<v Speaker 3>grandfather was a private pilot. He had his own plane,

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<v Speaker 3>and he said to me when I got my driver's license,

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<v Speaker 3>do you know if you can drive a car, you

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<v Speaker 3>can fly a plane. And he lied, So let's just

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<v Speaker 3>get that clear. That's rubbish. And so I thought, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>to overcome my anxiety and my kind of fragile self esteem,

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<v Speaker 3>that I'd go and do something significant. I'd gone do

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<v Speaker 3>something with my life. Because of course studying psychology was

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<v Speaker 3>not significant enough. I don't know why or who I

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<v Speaker 3>was proving anything to. But I went and got my

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<v Speaker 3>private pilot's license, and that I still felt anxious. So

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<v Speaker 3>I got my commercial pilots license, my night flying rating,

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<v Speaker 3>my multi engine rating, and an instructor rating, and I

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<v Speaker 3>still felt anxious. So I thought, maybe flying is not

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<v Speaker 3>going to fix the anxiety. So I went back to

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<v Speaker 3>psychology and left flying and felt incredibly shameful about that

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<v Speaker 3>for quite some time because of the money that was

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<v Speaker 3>spent on my flying training. And it ended up being

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things that has really defined for me

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<v Speaker 3>how much failure is actually realignment. Because I now do

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<v Speaker 3>a job where I don't feel like it's a job.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it so much and It feels so incredibly

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<v Speaker 3>aligned with who I am that my views were once

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<v Speaker 3>so incredibly perfectionistic on failure and what they meant about

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<v Speaker 3>me as a human being, whereas now I simply see

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<v Speaker 3>it as data. When things don't work, it's just information.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Small Habits through a Big Life is

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<v Speaker 1>your latest book that is all about dealing with self sabotage?

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<v Speaker 1>So can you just explain not just our listeners to me? Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm sure I don't have the exact definition, what

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<v Speaker 1>is self sabotage? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So, self sabotage is just a fancy name for not

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<v Speaker 3>being able to trust yourself to do the things you

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<v Speaker 3>say you want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's essentially avoidance. Now everyone avoids, so it's really important

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<v Speaker 3>that we just, right off the bat we normalize avoidance.

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<v Speaker 3>Human brains are wired to avoid discomfort. It's what we do.

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<v Speaker 3>So from a survival perspective, it was actually highly adaptive

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<v Speaker 3>when we were out roaming the savannah in clans one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred thousand years ago that we pay attention to uncertainty.

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<v Speaker 3>We paid attention to potential danger and avoided the emotional

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<v Speaker 3>discomfort and sometimes physiological discomfort that showed up as a

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<v Speaker 3>result to say get out because this could potentially be

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<v Speaker 3>a bad situation. Now twenty twenty two, we're not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>living life or dead situations in first world countries like

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<v Speaker 3>Australia on a daily basis, but we still have prehistoric

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<v Speaker 3>software in our brain, and that means that we're operating

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<v Speaker 3>with brains that don't particularly like hard they don't like

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<v Speaker 3>things that are uncomfortable, and so it's actually really normal

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<v Speaker 3>to avoid effort to avoid something that just feels uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not even really a problem, but it becomes

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<v Speaker 3>self sabotaged when the things, the behaviors that we start

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<v Speaker 3>doing on a daily basis, those behaviors that occur more

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<v Speaker 3>often in our lives than not, so we're probably talking

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<v Speaker 3>about the forty to forty five percent of behaviors that

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<v Speaker 3>make up have. When those habits start becoming habits of

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<v Speaker 3>self sabotage, habits of avoidance, habits that actually push us

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<v Speaker 3>away from where we want to be, then it becomes

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<v Speaker 3>a problem. But it means that we get very confused

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<v Speaker 3>about what is discomfort for growth and what is discomfort

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<v Speaker 3>for discomfort's sake, So quite often we're actually creating a

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<v Speaker 3>cycle where we are making ourselves feel ever more uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 3>because we're trying to avoid initial discomfort, but we're not

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<v Speaker 3>actually stopping to go. Hold on, if I just got

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<v Speaker 3>up at six o'clock in the morning and went for

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<v Speaker 3>a walk like I said I wanted to do, then

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<v Speaker 3>my hips wouldn't be aching from sitting on the couch.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, very simple but good example. How do we

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<v Speaker 1>identify self sabotage in ourselves?

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<v Speaker 3>So if we look at food and exercise or just

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<v Speaker 3>general lifestyle habits, then you probably self sabotage if you

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<v Speaker 3>spend a lot of the time in your head promising

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<v Speaker 3>that you will do certain things, and yet when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes around to doing those things, it feels hard, or

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<v Speaker 3>it feels effort full, or you feel overwhelmed, or you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't manage your time effectively so that when it came

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<v Speaker 3>time to go into the gym you ended up running

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<v Speaker 3>out of time. If those things keep happening more often

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<v Speaker 3>than not, then it's likely that you're self sabotaged, and

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<v Speaker 3>we can call those things. We can give those things

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<v Speaker 3>labels like procrastination. Sure, the most common form of self

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<v Speaker 3>sabotage I see is procrastination, and you would see it too.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's a bit cold this morning, I won't go

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<v Speaker 3>for a walk, but I'll do it this afternoon. I

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<v Speaker 3>promise I will, And then it gets to this afternoon,

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<v Speaker 3>you're too busy and the kids need something, so you

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<v Speaker 3>just don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't go.

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<v Speaker 3>And so if it's making excuses, procrastinating, negative self talk,

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<v Speaker 3>managing time ineffectively, managing your own emotions ineffectively so that

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<v Speaker 3>you end up creating your own stress, I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>could sit here for probably the next twenty minutes of

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<v Speaker 3>our chat and list off ways that we can self sabotage.

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<v Speaker 3>But the ways listeners can identify it within themselves is

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<v Speaker 3>do you feel out of integrity? Have you been promising

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<v Speaker 3>yourself that you would do something when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>your health and your fitness, and yet you're now in

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<v Speaker 3>a position where you don't trust what you say. Your

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<v Speaker 3>relationship with yourself is out of integrity now because you've

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<v Speaker 3>lost trust with you. But before we pathologize it, before

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<v Speaker 3>we pathologize you, before we pathologize every single listener, The

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<v Speaker 3>key here is when I procrastinate, when I promise myself this,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't follow through when I make excuses, is

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<v Speaker 3>it actually stopping your life from going in a direction

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<v Speaker 3>that you want to go, Because then we have a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a disconnect between where you are and where

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<v Speaker 3>you want to be. And if that cycle keeps showing

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<v Speaker 3>up that there's a promise that you're making to yourself

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<v Speaker 3>that you're not following through on, then yeah, it selfs

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<v Speaker 3>up when we're talking about you know Natalie and she's

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<v Speaker 3>at the stove thinking, this is the fifth time this

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<v Speaker 3>week that I promised myself I would walk the dog,

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<v Speaker 3>And here I am trying to get the toddler to

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<v Speaker 3>stop putting Plato into the carpet, and I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>pay the mortgage on my phone app while I'm stirring

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<v Speaker 3>the sauce and I still haven't managed to get out

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<v Speaker 3>the door or put my running shoes on. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is where the shame comes in. The quality of our

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<v Speaker 3>relationship with ourselves is what suffers. So you don't wake

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<v Speaker 3>up in the morning with your wife saying, Sam, get

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<v Speaker 3>up and go and do your workout because otherwise I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to do X, Y and ZED. No one makes

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<v Speaker 3>you do that. That's a boundary that you keep with yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's the same for all of us. We have

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<v Speaker 3>these internal boundaries, and if we constantly disrespect our own boundaries,

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<v Speaker 3>what happens is we end up in a shame spiral,

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<v Speaker 3>and that shame spiral further perpetuates the cycle of self sabotage.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's say Natalie wants to go for a walk,

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<v Speaker 3>and she promises herself this afternoon that she will go

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<v Speaker 3>for a walk, but it's cold by then, and the

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<v Speaker 3>kids need dinner, and it's just easy to put dinner

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<v Speaker 3>on now. There is to do it later. So she

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<v Speaker 3>starts doing that, and then it feels kind of relieving.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very seductive, So self sabotage is super seductive. It

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<v Speaker 3>actually feels better to go, you know what, I'll go tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>And so in that moment she does feel better. There's

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<v Speaker 3>one thing that's come off her shoulders that she doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have to deal with right now. She can just focus

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<v Speaker 3>on everyone else. But then dinner's done, the kids are bathed,

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<v Speaker 3>she's sitting on the couch watching a murder documentary. It

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<v Speaker 3>might be me, but you know, if you need recommendations,

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<v Speaker 3>come let me know. She's watching a murder documentary on

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<v Speaker 3>the couch and she thinks, this is not really where

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be, right, I've promised myself that I

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<v Speaker 3>would go for a walk, and it's I didn't do it,

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<v Speaker 3>and she feels guilty. And not only does she feel guilty,

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<v Speaker 3>but she feels super frustrated with herself because she knows

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<v Speaker 3>that this is not the life that she wants to live,

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<v Speaker 3>This is not what she wants to be for her

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<v Speaker 3>future self. And so then she starts to feel shame

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<v Speaker 3>because something pops up. It's a library of mental images

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<v Speaker 3>about all the times she's promised herself this this year,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, January one, she made a New Year's resolution.

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<v Speaker 3>She said that wasn't going to be like this because

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<v Speaker 3>she wasn't going to have another year like this, because

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<v Speaker 3>she's had five years like this prior. And this library

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<v Speaker 3>of images comes up in her head and it makes

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<v Speaker 3>her feel so shit about herself that that shame takes

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<v Speaker 3>a hold. And then she needs to avoid the shame,

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<v Speaker 3>so she goes to the pantry and in the pantry

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<v Speaker 3>is a little packet of that's hidden up the back

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<v Speaker 3>so the kids can't see them, and it's mint slices,

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<v Speaker 3>and the packet hasn't yet been opened because she bought

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<v Speaker 3>them today this afternoon. Wall is she wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 3>open them though they're just thearing the case the kids snack.

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<v Speaker 3>But the shame is so big and it's so unwieled

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<v Speaker 3>at you by this time that she needs a band aid.

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<v Speaker 3>So she eats half the packet of mint slices. And

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<v Speaker 3>then on top of that this internal rage, this internal

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<v Speaker 3>anger at herself that she's done it again, and what

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<v Speaker 3>happens is a continuation of the erosion between herself and herself.

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<v Speaker 3>No one else is involved in this, Sam, You know

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<v Speaker 3>that because you've seen this with your clients, right. No

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<v Speaker 3>one else sees or hears this. It's just her with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it's honestly like you were privy to hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>conversations that I've had over twenty two years, or in

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<v Speaker 1>the actual home of those people. And I know it

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<v Speaker 1>is because you've had those conversations too, and it's something

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<v Speaker 1>you intimately understand. But I don't think you could have

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<v Speaker 1>described it better. Honestly, I think there will be thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of Natalies listening right now, nodding right now, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>five years or ten years or fifteen years or two

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<v Speaker 1>kilos or fifteen kilos, whatever their Natalie situation is. And

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<v Speaker 1>I hope there aren't natalies listening who are getting offended.

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<v Speaker 1>But what does Natalie do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you'd know this from the homes that you've

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<v Speaker 3>stood in, the gyms that you've stood in with a

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<v Speaker 3>woman standing in front of you on the verge of

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<v Speaker 3>tears telling you the same story, because that story is

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<v Speaker 3>so incredibly painful. No change ever happens from shame. Actually, no,

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<v Speaker 3>let me rephrase that, no sustained change ever happens from

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<v Speaker 3>shame until we actually address that to begin with. Then

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<v Speaker 3>you're constantly chasing an invisible measuring stick of your worthiness.

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<v Speaker 3>That is bullshit. So the first thing we must acknowledge

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<v Speaker 3>is that you are worthy for being you, just for existing.

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<v Speaker 3>And the second thing we need to look at is

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<v Speaker 3>you're not changing because you need to because there is

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<v Speaker 3>something wrong with you, because there is a part of

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<v Speaker 3>you that is defective. No, you're changing because you want

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<v Speaker 3>to run around with the kids in the backyard because

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually much bloody easier to get up off the

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<v Speaker 3>floor when your knees don't hurt. It's because you actually

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<v Speaker 3>really want to walk dog because you enjoy it, because

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<v Speaker 3>there's whipbirds that sing outside and it makes you feel

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<v Speaker 3>like you're truly living. You want to change because your

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<v Speaker 3>eighty year old self is looking back at you right

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<v Speaker 3>now and says, isn't there a little bit more to life?

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<v Speaker 3>That's why you want to change. So we change from

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<v Speaker 3>that place. We don't change from a place of shame.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The second thing is, let's go back to potential. Have

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<v Speaker 3>strong feelings about potential. I'm a strong believer that when

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<v Speaker 3>we come from a place of possibility, then potential is yours.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't need to be Sam Woods going from eight

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<v Speaker 3>out of ten to nine and a half out of ten,

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<v Speaker 3>but you do need to understand that your potential matters

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<v Speaker 3>just as much, no matter what that looks like. So

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<v Speaker 3>we could do an entire other chat about self talk,

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<v Speaker 3>but you won't remember that. So instead, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>give you one statement, one statement I want you to

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<v Speaker 3>take with you. I relentlessly believe in my own potential. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the reason potential is so important in this statement is

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't need to be perfect, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 3>perfection doesn't exist. And if you continue to try to

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<v Speaker 3>make your attempts to transform your health perfect, then you

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<v Speaker 3>will continue to bash your head up against a brick

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<v Speaker 3>wall of criticism and shame. That just happens over and

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<v Speaker 3>over again. So instead, I want you to believe in

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<v Speaker 3>your own potential to change, whether you're there today or not.

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to believe that your future self knows

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<v Speaker 3>what you're capable of, whether you got there today or not.

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to believe, to relentlessly believe that the

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<v Speaker 3>hour between five and six pm can be different to

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<v Speaker 3>what it was yesterday. Because if you believe in your potential,

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<v Speaker 3>it means it doesn't matter what yesterday looked like. It

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<v Speaker 3>means that something is possible for today. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>final thing is, like I said, perfections bullshit. Please let

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<v Speaker 3>go of it. It's just an absolute waste of time

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<v Speaker 3>and energy. Instead, I want you to understand that it's

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<v Speaker 3>consistency that matters. It doesn't matter how small the step is.

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<v Speaker 3>If you take consistent steps, it's what matters. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>matter what you do, it's consistency that matters. So to

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<v Speaker 3>overcome self sabotage, firstly, please step out of shame. I

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<v Speaker 3>promise you your brain is not defective. This hasn't happened

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<v Speaker 3>to you for fifteen years, or for ten and then

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<v Speaker 3>twenty and then forty kilos by the time you open

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<v Speaker 3>your eyes again because you're broken. It's happened because life.

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<v Speaker 3>This stuff just happens. But you cannot blame yourself for

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<v Speaker 3>the way that you have learned to protect yourself from pain.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually love that advice just on its own. Just

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<v Speaker 1>focus on one thing at a time. It's keeping it

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<v Speaker 1>as a singular focus, much more manageable, much easier to

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<v Speaker 1>maintain your eyes on the prize of what the thing

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<v Speaker 1>is for that particular time. You believe that a little

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<v Speaker 1>habit is a better thing.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason that I believe in small habits is because

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<v Speaker 3>and small steps, is because of what we call the

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<v Speaker 3>science of small winds. So I like to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>hack our brains to help us. Now, what happens with

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<v Speaker 3>self sabotage is when we get that sense of relief

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<v Speaker 3>that I told you Natalie got when she didn't go

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<v Speaker 3>for a walk. So in that moment where she goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>buger it, I just can't do it self. Now, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>do it tomorrow. That relief is marked in the brain

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<v Speaker 3>by a neurotransmitter called dopamine, and dopamine is responsible for

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<v Speaker 3>giving us a sense of reward, It makes us feel good,

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<v Speaker 3>and it actually motivates us to repeat a behavior. So

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<v Speaker 3>dopamine is the neurochemical involved in addiction.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It says yes, that worked, because it actually did work

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<v Speaker 3>in the moment, made you feel good in the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>says do it again, do it again, do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>And so this is how self sabotage becomes seductive and

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<v Speaker 3>then addictive, because our brain is actually saying, ooh, that

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<v Speaker 3>felt good. But the thing that many people don't understand,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if they've been in this position for years, is

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<v Speaker 3>that the hit of dopamine that you'll get from doing

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<v Speaker 3>the behavior that's aligned with who you want to be

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<v Speaker 3>and where you want to go is even harder, more prominent,

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<v Speaker 3>and more enjoyable for your brain than if you just

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<v Speaker 3>repeat the self sabotage habit. So if Natalie actually put

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<v Speaker 3>her shoes on and said I'm doing it this afternoon,

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<v Speaker 3>got her shoes on before she'd even thought about it

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<v Speaker 3>or could talk herself out of it, and got out

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<v Speaker 3>the door, how she would feel on the way back

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<v Speaker 3>from that is this huge surge of oh, my goodness,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in alignment. This is who I want to be.

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<v Speaker 3>How good is that? So what we want to do

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<v Speaker 3>is hack that dopamine hit. And the way you can

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<v Speaker 3>do it is by doing a small step in the

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<v Speaker 3>right direction. And what happens with dope mean is it

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<v Speaker 3>goes We're going in the right direction, and this right

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<v Speaker 3>direction actually feels so much better than staying stuck in

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<v Speaker 3>our cycle. So you repeat that until it starts to

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<v Speaker 3>become more of your identity. It starts to become just

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<v Speaker 3>more of this who you are, and then you add

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<v Speaker 3>something else.

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely love that. Whether you're someone like me who

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<v Speaker 1>has done fifty thousand personal training sessions over two decades,

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<v Speaker 1>I know how hard it is. I don't even like

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<v Speaker 1>working out myself. I think, like you said, it's discomfort.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the whole point. We could speak for hours. From

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of my heart, thank you for coming on

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<v Speaker 1>the Woodland today. I've learned a lot. I actually think

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have changed a little bit today and how I

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<v Speaker 1>talk to people. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, that's so kind of it. Thanks Sam, It's

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<v Speaker 3>been a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the most emotional effelt on the show

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<v Speaker 1>since we started. Because of how many inverted commas, Natalie,

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<v Speaker 1>conversations I have had with beautiful people over my long career.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned a lot. I loved every second of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love getting real and raw and could tell that

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<v Speaker 1>Beck just got it, and that's what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 1>Loved it, loved it, loved it, loved it. Next up,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get a little bit less serious. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to pack our bags, we're going to jump on

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<v Speaker 1>a plane, and we're going to talk about how you

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<v Speaker 1>can maintain a good healthiness and happiness while on holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>We all get a little bit worried that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to drop the ball completely and gain a few holiday kilos,

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<v Speaker 1>which are no big deal. And I think Lana sums

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<v Speaker 1>it up beautifully when she asked this question.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Sam, I'm lucky enough to be heading away internationally

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<v Speaker 2>on a holiday after a long, long, long time in lockdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Just wondering what your top tips are when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to enjoying absolutely still enjoying, but sticking to as much

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<v Speaker 2>as you can of routine, getting the exercise in, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>when you're in a bit of a foreign surrounding, not

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<v Speaker 2>as familiar with the foods, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, So it's such a great question. I always go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the fundamentals and I'll get to it in

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<v Speaker 1>the second But the first part is you're absolutely right,

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<v Speaker 1>let your head down and enjoy it. I don't think,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in international holiday when you haven't had one for

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<v Speaker 1>so long, is a time where you should worry about

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<v Speaker 1>getting fitter or losing weight. I think if you can

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<v Speaker 1>stay healthy and be happy whilst on holiday, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>you should worry about. And to answer your question in

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<v Speaker 1>practical terms, walking or jogging is going to be your

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<v Speaker 1>best friend. And I personally think there's no better way

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<v Speaker 1>to explore a new place. I think what you miss

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<v Speaker 1>in ubers and cabs and trains you absolutely pick up

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<v Speaker 1>either on a bike or walking or running. You just

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<v Speaker 1>notice more because you're moving more slowly. You know it

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<v Speaker 1>might get lost a few times, but that's all part

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<v Speaker 1>of the journey. I know. I always sort of set

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<v Speaker 1>myself out for a forty five minute walk and tend

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<v Speaker 1>to walk for an hour and a half because I

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<v Speaker 1>get really really lost in foreign countries all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just a really good way to see a place,

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<v Speaker 1>a really good way to burn calories a really good

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<v Speaker 1>way to stay fit and healthy, even going on some

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<v Speaker 1>famous walks or runs, you know. I know when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in San Francisco last a few years ago before COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>we did the Golden gate Bridge bike ride and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just one of these you know, it's a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a special selfie moment, but it's just a beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do. It's a three or four hour bike ride.

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<v Speaker 1>I think doing things where you're combining exploration and exercise,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really good way to do it. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you love training, try different gyms. Instead of that anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>or stress of I'm going to lose my routine, turn

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<v Speaker 1>it on its head and say I actually see this

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<v Speaker 1>as the best opportunity to explore new exercise. And it

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<v Speaker 1>might be just basic cardio walking, jogging, riding, or getting

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<v Speaker 1>into different gyms, doing a boxing class, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>a famous gym over here, or you know, throwing myself

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<v Speaker 1>completely out there and doing these wacky classes that I've

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<v Speaker 1>never sort of thought of that might not even exist

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia. There's some really cool stuff out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>class pass is a really good way to find those

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<v Speaker 1>things because you don't actually have to become a member

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<v Speaker 1>of places. You can get a class pass and it'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you you can choose what type of work you

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<v Speaker 1>like a yoga or pilates or dance or whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it'll tell you where those particular facilities that

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<v Speaker 1>give those classes are located nearby. So from a food perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, you want to let your hair down and

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<v Speaker 1>not worry about it too much, but the fundamentals don't change.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're still eating good quality, real food, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>still eating protein, and you're still eating vegetables, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not eating too many refined sugars or processed carbs, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be fine. And if you're in Italy and

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<v Speaker 1>you love pizza and you love gelato and you love

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<v Speaker 1>pasta go nuts, just remember what goes in needs to

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<v Speaker 1>come off. And you might only be walking in your

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<v Speaker 1>life in Australia for thirty minutes a day, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you went out last night and you had a bottle

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<v Speaker 1>of red and you had a pizza, and you had

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<v Speaker 1>a pasta Entrey and you loved every second of it,

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<v Speaker 1>you might walk for an hour and a half the

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<v Speaker 1>next day just to break even. And then you get

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<v Speaker 1>the best of both worlds. You've got the exploration, you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't gained any weight, You've tasted the local, delicious food,

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<v Speaker 1>but enjoy every second of it. Don't stress about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting in shape has no finish line. If you gain

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<v Speaker 1>a few kilos but have the best holiday of your life,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still the best holiday of your life, and it

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<v Speaker 1>won't be hard to lose those when you get home.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll have those memories forever. So Lana and everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>heading away on a holiday, I hope that helped a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. As I said, they absolutely meant to be enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have any other questions like Lanna did, please

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<v Speaker 1>send them in through an audio message. There's a link

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes. And on top of that, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to know where you listen to the wood Life podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Our great group of listeners. I don't know what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to call you Woodlifers. We'll go with wood Lifers.

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<v Speaker 1>Our great group of Woodlifers is growing all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We get so many beautiful messages, so much great feedback.

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<v Speaker 1>But where are you listening to the wood Life podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a walker and a listener or are you

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<v Speaker 1>listening to it in the car or how do you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the wood Life Take a little selfie, upload

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<v Speaker 1>that photo and hag in the Woodlife podcast Instagram so

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<v Speaker 1>I can see it, because I'm on that all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would love to hear from you. Love to

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<v Speaker 1>see where you're listening from. I'll give you a little

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<v Speaker 1>shout out, and of course I'll be back on Monday

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<v Speaker 1>for another motivational moment. And remember you can listen for

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<v Speaker 1>free to your Hearts content on the iHeart Radio app.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you guys soon.