1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda gem Nation from The Daily Os. Here 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: she is Emma Gillespie. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Army Hammer is back in the headlines. He's 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: doing a comeback, I guess mission. He spoke to the 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 2: one and only Louis Theroux on his podcast Now in 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: case you forgot, Armie Hammer is a very tall man. 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: He has had some actor very handsome, strapping young lad 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: known for his prominent roles in films like The Social Network, 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Call Me by Your Name, see in Lone Ranger. 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Yes he was, and he was. 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: In Death on the Nile, the Agatha Christi twenty twenty 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: two movie. But months before that one came out, allegations 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: came to light that stopped his career in its tracks. 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: He was accused of rape, physical abuse, coercive control. A 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: number of women came forward with very confronting allegations. We 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: had a series of text messages leaked, and in those messages, 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: Army spoke about cannibalism. He said, I am one of 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: cannibal I've never admitted that before. It's scary to admit. 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: I've cut the heart out of a living animal before 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: and eaten it while it was still warm. Anyway, he 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: was roundly counseled, canceled, the LAPED investigated him. Ultimately there 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: was insufficient evidence to proceed with, so they actually investigated 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: him cannibalism, not of the cannibalism. 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: It would have been the rape allegation. 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: Abuse and the assault allegations. But the charges were dropped. 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: They didn't proceed, so he wasn't necessarily cleared. 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: But there was interview he's not going to be on 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: Mastership anytime? 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: Well exactly? 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: Can I just say he sounds like a nut? Well? 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: People that eating an animal's live beating heart. So was 32 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: RFK junr Did he eat a live beating hard too? 33 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: He's been eating. 34 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: Anna, Yes, don't get me started on RFK Junior. 35 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: How pigs you freezer Jones? Anyway, I know about the 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 1: whalehead and the raw milk. 37 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: HMI Hammer is back and he spoke to Louis Theroux. 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: He kind of said, you know, he thinks it's important 39 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: to go to uncomfortable places, talk about things that are 40 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: uncomfort be a bit vulnerable. And Louis asked him about 41 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: kind of his relationships. He'd had an affair, a long 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: affair over a period of years in his nine year marriage, 43 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: and then a series of kind of what he called 44 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: whirlwind romances. Here's a little bit about what Armie had 45 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: to say about that period. 46 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: People were sort of like, my bags of dope with 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: skin on them. You know, you make me feel amazing. 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna throw everything into this and we're going 49 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 3: to have this whorldwind romance and I'm gonna whisk you 50 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: up and we're gonna go on trips and we're going 51 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: to do all this and then I'm going to bring 52 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: you home and i'm gonna go thanks so much. That 53 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: was great, and then I'm gonna move on. And then 54 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: I would go do something almost exactly the same with 55 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: someone else, and I left a lot of people in 56 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: that wake very angry. 57 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: So he described the bags of dope with skin on them. Yeah, 58 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: that Valentine's Day card is going to be beautiful. I'm 59 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: going to bring you home. I'm gonna put you in 60 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: a party to. 61 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: This kind of toxic love bombing behavior. And that's how 62 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: we described his relationship with women. But he denied that 63 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: this behavior is criminal. He kind of said, you know, 64 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: a lot of people were really mad at me. I 65 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: acted like an a hole. I was a dick, but 66 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: that's not illegal. He was like, I have no problem 67 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: admitting that I wasn't a good partner, but I didn't 68 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: do anything wrong. Louis really pressed him on some of 69 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: the weirder aspects. I guess we did ask him about 70 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: the eating the animal heart he did. He denied that 71 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: he ate an entire animal heart, which thank god he's 72 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: cleared the air on that, I order, but he said 73 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: that it was this weird like male charged right of 74 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: passage where you go hunting for the first time, and 75 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: apparently everyone knows that when you go hunting for the 76 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: first time, you take a bite out of the heart 77 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: of the first thing that you kill. So he has 78 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: eaten the heart of an animal. So was everyone who's 79 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: gone on that TV show alone, if you could eat 80 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: a heart, you. 81 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: Would because you're starving to. 82 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I guess it's better than nothing. 83 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: I ate an art choke heart once to. 84 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: That classic male right of passage. 85 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: That's toxic interview for acc again. 86 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: By the end of the interview, though, you know, we 87 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: kind of went through a lot of these allegations. I 88 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: don't really feel like Army took a lot of responsibility. 89 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: He sort of blamed it on everyone else, blamed the 90 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: affair on his wife, saying that you know, the marriage 91 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: was unhappy and she wasn't putting in the work. Said 92 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: that he had sort of all these relationships with women 93 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: where he followed their lead, he only ever did what 94 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 2: they wanted to do, and that they kind of changed 95 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: their mind. Afterwards, he used the phrase, hell, hath no 96 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: fury like a woman scorned, which I'm sure a lot 97 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: of women are rolling their eyes at hearing right now. 98 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: But by the end he was actually quite defensive to 99 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: Louis Louis through who asked him, you know, if Armie 100 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: Hammer had anything that he wanted to ask or anything 101 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: to say about the interview. Here's what Army then said. 102 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: Don't I don't love the way the interview started. Just 103 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 3: to be perfectly honest, I'm not crazy about drudging up 104 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: all of this stuff because for me, a lot of 105 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: these issues have been resolved, whether it be legally or 106 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: within myself, and I feel like a lot of those 107 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: waters have settled. I think doing things like that stirs 108 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: up the water again unnecessarily. 109 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: Was Louis looking like a giant chicken leg? 110 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: And why go on that show for even to think 111 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: that stuff's not going to come up. Well, I mean, 112 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: I'll remind you that at the start of the interview, 113 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: Armie Hammer himself said that he's found over the last 114 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: few years that those things that make you uncomfortable are 115 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: actually the things you should lean into, and Louis literally said, 116 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: I'll take that as you know, Mike cue to make 117 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: things a little more uncomfortable. So anyway, I guess. 118 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: What do humans taste like? 119 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: What do they taste like? 120 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: Let's grill up some flesh and find out. If Army 121 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: takes you had for dinner, just be aware I would run. 122 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: I would be running. Ladies, we asked you to take 123 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: a bath. Don't let him heat it up. 124 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: If he puts the chicken stock in the bath, get 125 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: out of there. M. 126 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: Thank you. M. Gillespie.