1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to Mix one oh four point nine now 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: from this morning, well at about nine am, territory campus 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: and multi day trail walkers, we'll have to book online 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: to head out in our territory parks. Joining me on 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: the line is the Minister for Parks and Rangers, Selena Rubo. 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: Good morning, Minister. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Good morning to your Mixed listeners. 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: Now, how is this online system going to work? Exactly? 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: So, Katie, We've got a really great new system that 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: is going live today from nine o'clock this morning, which 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: has been developed by our fantastic Parks and Rangers crew 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: with the WHAT Parks and Wildlife Commission here in the 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: Northern Territory. It's a very simple and easy to use 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: online booking system. I had a virtual walk through last 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: week which is it looks fantastic. It's got many different functions, 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: but most importantly for us here in the territory, what 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: we love and what we enjoy in our pastime is 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: the ability to go camping and to do some of 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: those beautiful walks across our park. So it will allow 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: people to add their dates of choice and book certainty 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 2: for their holidays or their adventures. 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: So what does it mean for locals wanting to go 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: out camping. Are you hoping that it means more sort 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: of certainty, more claranty as to whether are those spots 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: are going to be available? 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Katie. Obviously we know some of about peak season, 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: in the dry season, in the winter season further south 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: in Central Australia, they tend to be the busiest seasons 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: and we have people whether they're single travelers, couples, groups 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: of friends, or of course families who do want to 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: travel out and enjoy our parks and often spend quite 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: a bit of time in our parks extended trips or 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: multiple weekends away with family and friends. So wanting to 34 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: make sure that the system supports the certainty of being 35 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: able to have a look. We know a lot of 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: people do travel many many kilometers to get to those 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: beautiful parks, in those campgrounds, and in that peak season, 38 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 2: often those beautiful spots already taken up, So it'll allow 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: a bit more certainty in that space in that regard. 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: Katie, Minister, I know this. We had a lot of 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: questions about this from listeners yesterday. As you know, these 42 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: changes do start to really flow through this morning. One 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: of the common questions that keeps coming through is what 44 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: happens if you arrive and somebody's in the spot that 45 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: you've booked. 46 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie, I know we've had that sort of question 47 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: already in the development of the new online booking system, 48 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: and our ranges are obviously very professional which we know, 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: but are trained to be able to support and work 50 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: through any of those issues. There will be a period 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: of education and transitioning into this new system. Obviously we 52 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: want to make sure one people know about it, but 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: too how to use that system effectively? And three what 54 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: do you do to help the problem solve? And if 55 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 2: there are any issues. There's also a survey mechanism that's 56 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: attached to that online booking system now, so if there 57 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: are any issues, people can feed that back into the system. 58 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: There will be ranges in our part could dislike always, 59 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: but there'll be people around to be able to assist 60 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: with resolving any of those issues. 61 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: Do you reckon we're going to see any confrontational situations 62 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: where someone maybe rocks up and somebody's in their spot 63 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: that they've already booked. 64 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: Well, I hope not, of course, Katie. But in terms 65 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: of helping to problem solve. There will be some clashes 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: and it'll be about how do we deescalate if there 67 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: is any frustration with that process. But of course we've 68 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: got those trained ranges to be able to support and 69 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: to work through that with people if they can't resolve 70 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: it themselves. 71 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: Now, Minister Margo has been in contact. She was in 72 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: contact actually late last week. She was right onto this 73 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: and was wondering. She was quite concerned about the fact that, 74 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, obviously plans change a lot. Let's say you're 75 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: out and about camping for the week and you're wanting 76 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: to travel around a few different spots in the territory, 77 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: but that mobile coverage and also the ability to book 78 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: once you're sort of already out and about could be limited. 79 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: Are there any plans in place to try to boost 80 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: that mobile phone coverage or to provide some kind of 81 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: backup system. 82 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're always conscious of our telecommunications in the territory 83 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: and you know, it can be a curse and a 84 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: blessing of course to be in range around the range. 85 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: But in terms of accessing the online booking system, there 86 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: will be of course a grace period. You can still 87 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: book in hindsight, if you have stopped in a place 88 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: that you may not have intended to stop. You can 89 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: still process and do your online booking system and the 90 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: payment for that night if you enter a mobile reception 91 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: or a service range then and of course, as I 92 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, we'll always have those ranges out and about 93 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: and checking and assisting people, so there will be that 94 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: support and that grace period as we transition to this 95 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: new system. 96 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: So no, but there's no sort of hard plans at 97 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: this point to improve mobile phone coverage in some of 98 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: those spots or any work that's about to get underwire 99 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: or anything we. 100 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: Do, Katie. We do have the extension of three of 101 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: our main parks and some of our highly visited areas 102 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: which will have extended Wi Fi available for the next 103 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: twelve months, so that will help assist in this process. 104 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: But of course we're always advocating at the federal level 105 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: to invest in the territory and make sure we've got 106 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: really strong telecommunications and not just for our parks but 107 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: of course right across the territory and some of our 108 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: very remote areas that we love. Now. 109 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: Of course, these changes when it comes to booking come 110 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: into place today. The fees, though, that is something that 111 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: was introduced towards the end of last year. If I 112 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: recall correctly, what is that money going towards with the 113 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: fees that are raised for our national or for our parks, 114 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: not our national parks, our territory parks. 115 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: Yes, definitely for our territory parks, but we of course 116 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: have some of those beautiful national parks here in the 117 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 2: NT so that the fees for our camping and walking 118 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: trails Katie will go directly back into the park's budget. 119 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: So you know, the maintenance of trails, the upgrades of amenities, 120 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: the work that's done to make sure that trails are 121 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: safe and accessible. And you know, we've got some great spots. 122 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: We've got some of those barbecue areas that campers can 123 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: use for free. So all of those things obviously cost 124 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: money to upgrade and maintain. But more importantly, with our 125 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: online booking system, we'll be able to see from that 126 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: data where are those we know some of our really 127 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: popular parks that where are some of those areas that 128 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: could use some more of that investment into parks to 129 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: make those amenities and those services and those trails even 130 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: better for our users. 131 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: Now, another question that came through yesterday where do your 132 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: book to walk? Is that the same situation, the same 133 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: booking system is what you do to camp? 134 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 2: Yes, it is. It's one website, Katie. It's very simple, 135 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: and then there's two functions through that one website. One 136 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: will be the multi day walking trails and there's three 137 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: that you can access through that, and then the other 138 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: one will show all the beautiful camping spots. So our 139 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: parks and rangers have done a great job in logging 140 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: and catalogging all of those camp spots, but it is 141 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: the one system. 142 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: And with the walking trails, I mean, has this booking 143 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: system been brought into place because you're wanting to limit 144 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: the number of people on those trails. 145 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 2: Not necessarily, Katie. There is limits for jap Bela Trail 146 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: and that's always existed in terms of the safety of 147 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: that particular walk, which is in Netlook National Park. There 148 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: still will be a limit per day and that's continued 149 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: to what the system is currently, but you'll actually be 150 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: able to see that in the online booking system. So 151 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: you'll book one night in each of the camp spots 152 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: on the Japela Trail, and it'll be similar for Tabletop 153 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: in Lichfield and also down in Central Australia. 154 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: Now, Minister, just finally, I know last week we spoke 155 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: to Tourism Central Australia about some of the flood damage 156 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: that we've seen in some parts of Central Australia. I 157 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: think it was the West McDonald Rangers, if I recall correctly. 158 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 1: I understand that there is going to be some work 159 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: get underway there. Where are things at in that space? 160 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: Yes, Katie, So Central Australia's received i think in a 161 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: matter of weeks more of their annual rainfall that they 162 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: have in the last couple of years. So obviously it's 163 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: been a big impact to some of that accessibility in 164 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: our parks down in the center. My park's team have 165 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: told me that they've got some really quick upgrades and 166 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: investment that they're looking for mineor new works around that 167 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: Central Australia area with that flood damage and particularly around 168 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: road and pathway access. So that works underway. They're hoping 169 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: that that will all be completed by April, which will 170 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: be the start of sort of traditionally the highest season 171 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: there in Central Australia. So really looking forward to supporting, 172 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: of course, our tourism industry in that way. But parks 173 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: are definitely already got that as a proori and are 174 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: working on that. 175 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: Minister. Before I let you go, I know some of 176 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: my listeners will will be upset with me if I 177 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: don't ask. Where are things at with the window on 178 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: the Wetlands. 179 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: Ah, yes, So Katie, there is a proponent who was 180 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: successful in the tender for the window in the Wetlands. 181 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: They're working on some upgrades for the facility and they've 182 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: completed some of the commercial leasing for that particular site. 183 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: So my understanding is they're looking for end of March 184 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: beginning of April to open that up. So really looking 185 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: forward to talking to you and your listeners in the 186 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: next few weeks to consume when that will open again. 187 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: So really exciting about that news. 188 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 1: Sounds like it's only weeks away. 189 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: Though it is. It feels like things have gone very 190 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: quickly at the beginning of this year. But really excited 191 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: for the new business owners who will be opening that 192 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: up yet in a matter of weeks. 193 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: Katie, Well, we will look forward to chatting with you 194 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: again then, Minister for Parks and Rangers, Selena Rubo, really 195 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: appreciate your time this morning. 196 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you so much, Katie. 197 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: Thanks you are listening to Mix one O four point 198 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: nine three point sixty