1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: The Unplayable Podcast is proudly presented by Quantas, the official 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,359 Speaker 1: podcast partner and the official airline partner of Cricket Australia. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Once again this season, Quantas is proud to be flying 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. Hello everyone, 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: welcome to The Unplayable Podcast. We are in Brisbane the 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: head of the second Ashes Test. Australia are one in 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: up in the series and we've had a very long 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: lead into this Test match, so there's plenty to talk about. 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Louis Cameron's here with me, Josh on a finger and Louis. 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: We have been watching both teams train today at the 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: Gabba and there's still a few question marks about both elevens. 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: Yes, question marks on the England spin front and on 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: the Australian opening front. Will it be Travis Head, Will 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: Quadja get over the back spasms? Plenty of questions to 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: dissect in this podcast. You said there's plenty to talk 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: about and that we've had a long gap between these tests. 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: I almost feel like we've talked about it all. We've 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: had too long to preview this one. We only had yeah, 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: extra three days of it. It's it feels like we're 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: kind of clutching at straws now were in the last 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: few days of it. But yeah, it should be an 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: interesting peopball. 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: Test, definitely, if I'm sure our listeners have been staying 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: abreast of the stuff on cricket dot Com DoD AU. 25 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: It's been well covered there, yes, since the end of 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: that Perth Test, so now we can dissect it in 27 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: audio formum as well, So that's also good, Lou. Why 28 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: don't we start with zmonth Kwairjy because he's the big 29 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: talking point for the home side. He didn't open in 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: either innings of the Perth Test. Backspasms really restricted his 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: involvement in that game, so all eyes were on him 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: at training today. Didn't bad under lights yesterday, which was 33 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: Sunday night Australia's first training sessions here in Brisbane, but 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: he did have about during the daylights session here on 35 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: Monday after a little bit of a fitness test out 36 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: on the Gabba. So what did you say and what 37 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: are your sort of thinking about the Quaija situation at 38 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: the well? 39 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: First of all, I mean you saw that you had 40 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: our eyes out on the ground and I was kind 41 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: of watching the nets and as it turned out, he 42 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: was out on the ground. First of all, by all reports, 43 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: he I haven't seen him do a whole lot of 44 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: running just in general, I think it was he would 45 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: probably agree that he's not the you know, the keenest 46 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: warmer opera there ever is. And so just him being 47 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: out on the ground, I mean, first of all, what 48 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: had you got to see, Josh did he was he moving? Okay? 49 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: Well, he was under the watchful eye of the physio 50 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: Nick Jones, and he was the guy who he's been 51 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: around a while, and he was there helping Maxie in 52 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: that magical beginnings in Mumbai wasn't here. So he's got 53 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: a bit of a magic touch, this guy. And he 54 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: was looking very closely at Kwaji was getting to do 55 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: some straight line running up and down I would say, 56 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: over about a distance of forty meters or so. And 57 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: then he got Kwaja to do some side to side 58 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: shuffling in both directions, and. 59 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: A key prerequisite to open the batting, of course, his 60 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: side to side. 61 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: Oh yea, You've got to be able to shuffle like 62 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: a crab, don't you if you want to open the batting. 63 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: And there were you know, a few discussions they would 64 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: stop and they would chat. But overall, I would say 65 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: the body language look pretty positive. There were lots of smiles, 66 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: there are lots of thumbs up. Even though it look 67 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: like Kawaja was moving super freely, there was a lot 68 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: of positivity in the body language. And then he went 69 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: out to bats for what did he bat for half 70 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: an hour or something in. 71 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: The new well longer than half an hour. So maybe 72 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: the most interesting bit of the net session was the doctor. 73 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: Now not Nick Jones, this is the doctor Lee Golding. 74 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: I am assuming that they probably gave him. This is 75 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: his first session back. We think we haven't seen you know, 76 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: we haven't been following them. I haven't been in camp 77 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: with him over the last few days. But we think 78 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: this was his first kind of big thing back. So 79 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: obviously it's the doctor's saying, well, just bat for half 80 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: an hour and then we'll get to our main session 81 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: the next day, maybe abaut for an hour and then 82 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: see how we go after that. He got to the 83 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: end of his half hour and the doctor was there, lurking, 84 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: you know, one net over and not quite looking at 85 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: the watch but not far off at either, and he 86 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: just said, hey, just give me some time. Let me, 87 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: let me keep going for a bit more. I'm nearly done. 88 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: Heh didn't quite say it like that, but that his 89 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: body language suggested that, and then hit a few more balls, 90 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: probably bad for another five ten minutes, and then made 91 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: his way out. In between that look, I thought he 92 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: looked in discomfort playing shots at times, and then at 93 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: other times he played very expansive pool shots and look 94 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: completely fine. I suspect he's still in a bit of pain. 95 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 2: Just kind of watching him do certain things. Having had 96 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: back spasms before, I know it's often the little things 97 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: that can get you. And I was watching him a 98 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: bit when he bent down to pick balls up at 99 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: the back of the nets at the gabba, the ground 100 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: kind of trails off, so you actually have to kind 101 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 2: of bend down and pick up the ball from beneath 102 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: where your feet are. And as someone, I was kind 103 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: of grimacing myself, like, oh, I know that would hurt 104 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: if you're coming off back spasms, if they haven't fully recovered. 105 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: He was bending down and picking him up, okay, so 106 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: those little movements are kind of the ones that can 107 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: get you, and he looked okay there, and then yeah, 108 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: like he played a lot of pool shots he was 109 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: only facing Michael Divenudo's wangers, so hasn't graduated to bowl 110 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: as yet. And there was one particularly fast bouncer that 111 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: he got under really quickly. So that's another good test, 112 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: like a fast, sharp movement, compressing your spine, I suppose 113 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: to get under a ball. The real test will be 114 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: probably tomorrow now today when you're listening to this, that 115 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: that'll be Tuesday. How does he pull up from this? 116 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: How does he go up their main training session? You 117 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: think he'd probably have to ramp it up further to 118 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 2: kind of prove his fitness, and then it's probably a 119 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 2: late call. Look, he's pushing time given you know he's 120 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: only batting for half an hour and now three days out. 121 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: You know they potentially wanted to bat for four or 122 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: five hours on Thursday, So he's pushing time. But I 123 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: wouldn't you know, wouldn't rule him out just yet. 124 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And I guess the other thing is his fielding. 125 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: He's been in the slips corder. He needs to be 126 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: able to bend down and catch the low chances. We 127 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: saw one or two fly sort of passed him in 128 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: Perth as well, so I imagine we'll see him doing some 129 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: fielding drills as well over the next couple of. 130 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: Days, and yeah, good point. Worth pointing out that it 131 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: was actually the catching that kind of did it. Like 132 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: he had the back spasms day one and he tried 133 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: to get back out their day two. I think it 134 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: was a Jamie Smith kind of slash that went over 135 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 2: his head and he was never going to get anywhere 136 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: near it. He jumped up to try and catch it, 137 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: and it was that kind of quick quick motion, you know, 138 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: jumping up that set it off again. So yeah, good point. 139 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: He'll need to be tip top if he's going to 140 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: field at first slip. 141 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. Travis Head said earlier in the week that he 142 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: doesn't really rate batting orders, which is what Pat Havans 143 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: had also said, they're overrated, I think with the words 144 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: and so he's also been sort of angling for a 145 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: full time opening position over the last well, especially after 146 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: this recent performance. He said it's been on his mind 147 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: for a little while. Do you think there is a 148 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: temptation from the Aussie side to just say, look, you've 149 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: proven yourself there, let's just see it full time. I 150 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: think there is a temptation maybe from Travis end because 151 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: he seems to be. 152 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: I thought it showed a lot of leadership the way 153 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: he took the ball by the horns and battered opened 154 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: the batting, and that Perth Test like that was a 155 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: not only did he kind of go put himself in 156 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: the firing line, but the way he went out and 157 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: I think he faced the entire first over. Remember Jake Weather, 158 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: it was coming off a pair, he'd faced the first 159 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: ball and kind of had a bit of a jumbled 160 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: situation with all of a sudden I'm batting with Marnus Lavisha, 161 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: not Uzma Kwaja, him and Usman would have kind of 162 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: developed like, all right, this is what we'll do if 163 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: this happens. You know, this is what we'll do running 164 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: between the wickets. You know, no fault of Marnus, but 165 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: like Marnas probably was also scrambling opening the batting. But 166 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: Jake ended up facing that first ball, he got two 167 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: absolute seeds from Marta and he was on his way 168 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: head took that first over. He battered really sensibly at 169 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: the start and just let Jake get into it. So 170 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: I thought that showed a lot of selflessness from trav 171 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: Is it the best thing for the team for him 172 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: to open the batting I still lean towards no, like 173 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: I think, and I think they would see it the 174 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: same way like I think they would see situations where 175 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: can you know, if we need to get back into 176 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: a Test really quickly, if we've got a one hundred 177 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: run you know, first innings deficite that going out to bat. 178 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: In third innings, maybe you get trap out there if 179 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: conditions are silt in your favor, or if there's a 180 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: run chase like there was in Perth. But you know, 181 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: do you want him going out to bat if this 182 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: pitch is juiced up a little bit, which I'm not 183 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: necessarily sure it will be the case, But and Australia 184 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: win thoss and bat? Do you want Travis Head going 185 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: out to bat and face that first over from Joff 186 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: Archer when he's super duper fresh, Or do you want 187 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: someone like a Kwaja to bat hopefully thirty forty overs 188 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: and make sure when Australia lose their third wicket it's 189 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: a Travis Head going into bat at a more advantageous top. 190 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the rais is a good point, doesn't it. 191 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean he's someone who can take the game away 192 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: on while on any pitchure that he plays on but yeah, 193 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: situational and maybe I also heard a float of that 194 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: maybe he just becomes a second innings open going forward. 195 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: Is that a possibility? Well, there could be some merit 196 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: in that, and maybe it's just the case of like 197 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: if we you know, if they're if they're batting first 198 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: on day one, then he doesn't open. But maybe if 199 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: they get the rock conditions, if they bat second, they 200 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: could come in and do it. That requires some creative 201 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: selection with the guys around him, Like you've got to 202 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: pick at least. So let's say Jake Weatherworld's kind of 203 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: set in that position at the at the moment as 204 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: the other opener, and Trav opens with him, you know, 205 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 2: say half the time, Well who opens the other half 206 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: of the time? Like is it manas? Like it seems 207 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 2: like he's he's pretty happy at three and bat it 208 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: pretty well there. Yeah, is it a if was he 209 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: isn't fit? Is it a Josh English who did it 210 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: in the tour game recently? Bo Webster's probably the next 211 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: man in you'd think from a batting top six seven 212 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: point of view, But he I mean, he did open 213 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: it early in his career for Tasmania, but his success 214 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: has been lower down the order, So yeah, you can 215 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: get creative around it, but at some point it might 216 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: unsettle the rest of the lineup, and I think that 217 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 2: where it could that's where it could be damaging. But 218 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: they're talking a good game on this, like they're talking 219 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: about creative solutions to their batting order and it's part 220 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: of its necessity because they just haven't been able to 221 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 2: find a good opening partner for was mcquadja. Ironically some 222 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 2: really good signs that Jake Weatherill might be a good 223 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: opening partner for him, and now it was he struggling 224 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: with his body. So yeah, swings and roundabouts. 225 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jake hasn't a chance to open whether was he 226 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: yet has he? So hopefully well potentially here in Brisbane 227 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: will see that. 228 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: The other side, I got to get this out of 229 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: the way. I think I've put it in maybe at 230 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: a piece. But Justin Langer had two opening partners for 231 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: his entire test career. He played over one hundred tests 232 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: and opened for quite a lot of them. 233 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: So he had Hayden and who else Hayden and David Boone. 234 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: When he went Chase Linger first got him the team 235 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 2: in the early nineties, he opened with Boone went back 236 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: out of the side, came back into three and then 237 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: when he was opening, it was always with Hados. Jake 238 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: Weatherord has two different opening partners in two days. So 239 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: just yeah, that just kind of puts into perspective. And 240 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: this is the challenge Australia have if they do go 241 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 2: down this creative route of a creative batting order. I 242 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 2: got to convince the Australian public that it's the way 243 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: to go because we're used to We like Hayden, the 244 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: Langer and stability, you know, yeah, Slater and Taylor or 245 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: whoever it is. We've had, you know, Warner and Quadra. 246 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: More recently, we've had strong opening pairs and we like 247 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: to know who those two names on the team sheet are. 248 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: I like, and they're they're our guys. So I think 249 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: people will have some trouble wrapping their heads around that. 250 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: I reckon Travis Head's name could be anywhere in the 251 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: order and people would be happy. At the minute. He's 252 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: just got that flavor about him Dosney at the minute, 253 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: he's flying, So good work from Travs. The other one, 254 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: Pat Cummens had another bowl today on Monday nights or 255 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: Monday afternoon and the nets he's again looking really good, 256 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: but he's not in this squad, so he won't play 257 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: in Brisbane. I guess you have to say, But I mean, 258 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: all signs are looking good for Adelaide and the rest 259 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: of the series going forward. 260 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: And ramped it up in a good way. So he 261 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: battered Sunday night under lights of that session we were 262 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 2: at Josh, and then backed it up the next I 263 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: was gonna say next morning, but it was the next afternoon, 264 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: had another hit and then bowled two spells kind of 265 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: in in this training session on Monday, So that is 266 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: tracking really well. I haven't picked him in the squad. 267 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: So someone asked me today, what what chance is part 268 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: of playing this game? I said, well, I think zero 269 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: because the squad. 270 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: Not that it's necessarily a binding squad, but. 271 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 2: I suppose so yeah, But I mean naming a squad 272 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: at all, if it's not binding, that'd be some serious 273 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: mind games, would that would be? Yeah? See Pat Coumban's 274 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: walking out to do the I mean when would you 275 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: do it? But still send well, I mean do you 276 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 2: send Steve Smith to do the captain's prest conference the 277 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: day before? Yeah, that'd been an all time switcher rood 278 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 2: from Australia doing that and that's well, we did it 279 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: right in front of your eyes. But it's not their style. 280 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: I don't think they've they haven't done that before. It 281 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: would surprise me if they did it again, sorry, if 282 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: they did it for the first time. So, but yeah, 283 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: he's flying. It would be a different proposition. I suspect 284 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: if Australia were one neel down going into this Test, 285 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: and that really easily could have been in the case. 286 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: I mean, let's not forget Australia. We're behind the eight 287 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: ball for a long time in that very short test 288 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. 289 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: Certainly four of the sixth sessions probably you could say 290 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: exactly right. 291 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think there's been a lot of there's 292 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: been a lot of blowback on England over the last 293 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: little bit. We just pumped the brakes a little bit 294 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: like Australia didn't go and dominate that test. England had 295 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 2: the running for a lot of it. They showed some 296 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 2: pretty good signs. Yeah, some weaknesses around the durability of 297 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: their fast bowlers and a very short test and the 298 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 2: fragility of their top order. But you know, Australia's top 299 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: order continues to be show frailty at times, and they've 300 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: got an amazing things from head, so let's just yeah, 301 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: let's see how these first few tests play out. We 302 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: haven't seen much cricket and I'd be surprised if this 303 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 2: game's one sided. 304 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well, in England's fast bowlers, they certainly didn't 305 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: press on day one, Josh for Archer and Mark Wood 306 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: hitting one fifties, Gus Atkinson in the high one forties, 307 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: and then even brighton cast was probably the most consistent 308 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: over two days, so good signs there. But then obviously 309 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: the speeds did drop on that second day. And now 310 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: we've just had reports that Mark would his knee is 311 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: probably not in the shape that the England camp would 312 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: have hoped. 313 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: That's not a report. I saw him walking into the 314 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: ground today and it's to call it a brace would 315 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: be an understatement. I thought he was like wearing a 316 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: full moon boat almost like on his knee, on his knee, 317 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: on his left nee. Yeah, it's a real contraption. I'm 318 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: not sure if those photos have made their way into 319 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: social media. I know it was around the England net today, 320 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: obviously not bowling, but just kind of lurking around and 321 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: probably being a pest going with for what his teammates say. 322 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a full on contraption and yeah, that 323 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: would suggest that he's battling something there and yeah, so yeah, 324 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: that's that's an interesting interesting point for England. 325 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he he did say before the Pertest he wasn't 326 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: going to play all five. I think we can definitely 327 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: confirm that's the case. Now who does replace him in 328 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: this team though? Because England do have lots of options. 329 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: They brought six fast bowlers, they've got two spinners, they 330 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: sent two quicks to Camberra to playing the pink ball match, 331 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: which ended up being an easy win for the Lions 332 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: there over the Prime Minister's eleven also a little bit 333 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: disappointing alban Eze he wasn't there because it's just happened 334 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: to be getting married selfish, surely if it's your game, 335 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: you have to go. But maybe there's some politics there 336 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: that I plan to know. 337 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to know what the how that one 338 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: played out like, because it seemed like the Meadia didn't 339 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: really know what was going on with albow and they 340 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: were taken aback by the by the wedding going on there. 341 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: I wonder if they use the PM's eleven games as 342 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: smoke screen. At the PM's eleven watching, you know, he 343 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: wants to see how Jacob Bethel's going and you know 344 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: whether Sids is still able to hit one forward and 345 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: then he was tying the not So what do England 346 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: do if wit to replace wood tongue? Josh Hungu would 347 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: be the obvious guy to come in if it's a 348 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: seam bowler and they go five quicks again. All there's 349 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: a lot of indications suggest they might pick a spinner 350 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: for this game, for the for the moments where that 351 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: ball goes the pink ball goes soft and they need 352 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: to kind of hold things a little bit. So she's 353 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: the guy they've groomed for this tour. I'm sure they 354 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: thought they should have played him in Perth. We spoke 355 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: a little bit about about that in the podcast during 356 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: that Test match. But will Jack's got a really good 357 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: run at their nets tonight. He looks like I mean, 358 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: he's a batter first who bowls a bit and had 359 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: quite a bit of success in white ball cricket in 360 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: T twenty cricket. I think he's played a bit for 361 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: the Hobart Hurricanes as well, Bangalore real t twenty star. 362 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: You know, does he come in and you know when 363 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: you got him coming in at number eight, you know 364 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: their tail. That's already a spot where they have a 365 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: bit of an advantage on Australia the way Australia's eleven 366 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: is constructed. At the moment you got start at eight 367 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 2: and then it was a Line. Line was nine. That's 368 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: high for I think even Nathan Line would say that's 369 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: that's notstably territory for him. So yeah, so Jack's at 370 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: eight for Wood, who was for one of their weaker 371 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: low roled batterers. That would certainly strengthen things up from 372 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: England's point of view. 373 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: Talk about the pink ball and what it means for 374 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: the fast balls, but spin does have a good record 375 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: in pinkball matches. I've got the numbers here, forty three 376 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: wickets at an average of twenty six point seventy nine. 377 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: That's in Australian day night Tests. So I mean that's 378 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: good going. Even Nathan Lyons average comes down, you know 379 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: a few points over his career numbers in the pink 380 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 1: ball stuff as well. He's got a good record in 381 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: Brisbane and with the pink ball. So there has been 382 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: a little bit of chatter about Austraia potentially having leaving 383 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: out Nathan Lyon, but I just don't think that based 384 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: on what we've seen recently that would be the case. 385 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: I know he was left out for the Third Test 386 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: in the West Indies in Jamaica, but coach a pink 387 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: ball game. That was a pink ball game, yes, but 388 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: coach Andrew McDonald said that, you know, the conditions there 389 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: were certainly extenuating circumstances and a lot different to what 390 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: we see in Australia. So i'd expect seed Lions name 391 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: on the team shed again. 392 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting one. I mean that was extreme. 393 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 2: That was a pink duke's ball, which I mean like 394 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: Mitchell Stark will be dreaming to bowl with that one. Again, 395 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: it's an interesting proposition for Lyone, who has a really 396 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: good record at the Adelaide Oval with the pink ball 397 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 2: and a really similar record between day Tests at Adelaide 398 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 2: Oval and day night Test at Adelaide Oval. So twenty 399 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 2: out we get to twenty four day night games there, 400 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: thirty five we gets to twenty six in day game, 401 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: so pretty much the same. It's a little bit more 402 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: pronounced at the Gabba. Albeit he's only played I think 403 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: two or three Day not Tests at the Gabba. So 404 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 2: nine wickets at thirty five in day night Tests at 405 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: the Gabba, which is significantly higher than his average in 406 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: day Tests at the Gabba forty seven wickets at twenty seven. 407 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: So there's some stuff going on here. Like you can tell, 408 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: the Australian players aren't. They're not going out of their 409 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: way to really say that they love playing pink ball 410 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: cricket at the Gabba. You Marnus Labershine today talked about 411 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: how good Adelaide oval is and the spectacle it is. 412 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: Travis Head said the same thing yesterday. They really think 413 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: that Adelaide has got pink ball cricket sorted. It's obviously 414 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: a great atmosphere off the ground on the ground that 415 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: drop in pitch. The curator there has just kind of 416 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 2: figured out how to leave the right amount of grass 417 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: combined with a maybe a softer outfield than what you 418 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: get in Queensland. That just keeps the pink ball in 419 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: better shape. And the issue here isn't so much. I 420 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: think the pitch has been a problem. The pink ball 421 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: just hasn't the technology just hasn't gotten a a lot better. 422 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 2: I don't think over over the last few years they've 423 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: just probably got it about as good as it possibly 424 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: can be. I think the pink ball is a lot 425 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: more like a white ball. So like if you're trying 426 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: to bowl eighty overs with a white ball, forget it. 427 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: You just you don't do that. Nodiog green and brown 428 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't exactly right, whereas you know that you can get 429 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: a red ball through eighty overs. But even then, you know, 430 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: we talk about the Cukobarra ball kind of struggling to 431 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 2: do that. So one of the issues that they face 432 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: in Brisbane is, you know, the gather is such a hard, 433 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: hard wicket and the turf is you know, when it 434 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: gets hit through the outfield, it's a lot more abrasive 435 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: and tough, and the pink ball really struggles with stand it. 436 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: The players know that, and I think unless they juice 437 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: up this gab a wicket, it's just gonna be a groat. 438 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 2: There's gonna be times but we'll talk about how much 439 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: this thing swings under lights and the twilight period. But 440 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: if you're batting in the day with an older soft 441 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 2: pink ball, you know, cash in times and England especially 442 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: could make some really big runs in a hurry if 443 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: the conditions suit them at certain periods in this game. 444 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: I think, well, England are going to have to overcome 445 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: quite a bit of history. They've never beaten Australia in 446 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: a pickball Test. They've played three so far in Ash's 447 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: cricket and all three have gone to Australia. And overall 448 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: Australia's record in the pickball is fast sup period of England's. 449 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: England two wins from seven matches and Australia well they're 450 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 1: thirteen wins from fourteen matches. Their only loss was at 451 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: the Gabbet to the West Indies after those Shama Joseph heroics. 452 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: What was that in January twenty twenty four, So. 453 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 2: Only last year, it feels like a long time ago. 454 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, only last year, but who could forget my Joseph. 455 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: But it does mean that Australia have a lot of 456 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: history in this format. Now it's been ten years and 457 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: they've played a pickball Test every year. 458 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've played double the amount of games 459 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: as the next most England with seven games. Australia have 460 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 2: played fourteen. Other countries have just given up on hosting it. 461 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: South Africa have tried it, England have tried it, Pakistan 462 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: have tried it in the UAE, and they've all kind 463 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: of gone, it doesn't really suit our conditions. Bangladesh and 464 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 2: australianka have never really even bothered hosting one. So but 465 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: it's just worked in Australia for whatever reason. And I 466 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: mean the sheer margins of what they're winning these Tests 467 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: by two of the wins have been by an innings, 468 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: three have been when they're chasing small totals in the 469 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: fourth innings, one by seven, eight and ten wickets respectively, 470 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: and the six where they've been bowling. Six wins where 471 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: they've been bowling last. The margins have been one hundred 472 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: and twenty runs, two hundred ninety six runs, two hundred 473 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: and seventy five runs, one hundred and forty six runs, 474 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: four hundred and nineteen runs and one hundred and seventy 475 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: six runs. So one of those was in the last 476 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 2: session of the Adelaide Day not Test during the twenty 477 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: one to twenty two ashes. But you know the headline 478 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: there is Australia is not only winning these games, they 479 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: are demolishing teams. The three closer ones have been interesting. 480 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: The very first one in twenty fifteen to sixteen against 481 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: New Zealand they just scraped home by three wickets, that's 482 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: what will remember. They had that famous one against Pakistan 483 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 2: who nearly chased down I think it was four hundred 484 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: and seventy at the Gaba in twenty sixteen seventeen, such 485 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: feat by knitnings for the Ages, and it took a 486 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: bit of Bitchell stuck brilliance to get the last wicket 487 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: or two and then obviously lost to the West Indies 488 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: at the Gaba. But you know, even then the Windies needed, 489 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: you know, some really good first innings batting and then 490 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: an all time performance from Shama Joseph to get over 491 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 2: the line and they won the toss, so they were 492 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: able to tilt the conditions in their favors slightly and 493 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: they only got home by eight runs. So if you're 494 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: going to win against Australia you need some unbelievable performances 495 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: and even that it can be difficult. 496 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: Well Engl do to have match winners and they certainly 497 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: will back themselves to repeat the heroics of Shama. So 498 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: that was a classic match. Australia certainly, as you said, 499 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: there have played a lot more cricket. There have been 500 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: a few questions this week from the England side of 501 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: the journalist pack, saying is it fair that Australia gets 502 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: to play so much more pinkball cer get than in 503 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: England and then they come to a big series like 504 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: this and it's one of the five matches? Is that 505 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: Do you think that's also a fair question or is 506 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: that just how it plays out. 507 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 2: I think it's a fair question absolutely. I also think 508 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: it's fair the way as they do it. It's no 509 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 2: secret they're not doing it at the last minute. Maybe 510 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: England might feel aggrieved in twenty one twenty two when 511 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: the Perth Test ended up becoming a Hobart Day night Test. 512 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: I think mainly to appeace broadcasters because the Perth Test 513 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: works beautifully from a Eastern time zone slot. It starts 514 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 2: at about one pm on the Eastern States. You get 515 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: that nice run through that last session through seven, eight 516 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 2: nine pm when people are in front of their TVs. 517 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: So they wanted that Hobart Test to be day night 518 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: for that reason. That was a last minute going to change. Remember, 519 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: with the border concerns and the COVID dramas that we 520 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: had at that time, so maybe that you know, that 521 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 2: was a bit of a last minute shift. But England 522 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: know they're coming out here to play at least, you know, 523 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: one pink normally one pink ball test every year, and 524 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: they should be preparing for it. I mean, that's why 525 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 2: I kind of thought it was surprising in some respects 526 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: that they didn't send more of their players, or any 527 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: of their first choice players to go play the pink 528 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: ball game in Canberra. I know they were probably wary 529 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: of making it look like they were doing naughty boy nets, 530 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: you know, and sending you know, reacting overreacting to one defeat, 531 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 2: but I mean the fact was, like, you know, playing 532 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: this is a different format. Everyone says that, and I 533 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: know canber is different to Brisbane, different conditions, blah blah blah, 534 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: but it is a pink ball and I would think 535 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: batting under lights against pink ball in Australia would help 536 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: you then do that exact same thing in a test 537 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 2: match a few days later. So they need to kind 538 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: of get to school pretty quickly because they don't they 539 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: don't play it too much. But you know, you can't 540 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: say they weren't warned. Yeah, some of their. 541 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: Players have never played against the big ball others, so 542 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: any sort of experience would be good, although there is 543 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: also the argument that then you get to play against 544 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: the PM's eleven and there's a lot of first class 545 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: experience there. If you take out Peter Citdell, you've got 546 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: Sam Constance bowling at the death sort of is that 547 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 1: really beneficial? 548 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: That's fair, But look, I reckon by the same token, 549 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: like if they'd ask for some stronger opposition, you know 550 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: they might have been able to. I mean, I don't 551 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: want to just see a podcast people know we're going 552 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 2: to give that side of the coin. But you know, 553 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: CA have made a point of saying we want to 554 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 2: provide pretty strong touring opposition so that we get the 555 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: same same thing when we tour overseas. And the fact 556 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: is like teams just don't play to a game as 557 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: much anymore and they're just not rated I think rightly, 558 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: because they're often you know, just a waste of time. 559 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: And you're right, you know, you went Australia, go and 560 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: play you know, Kent between test matches, Like it's not 561 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 2: Kent's first as it's a bunch of guys who weren't 562 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: playing in the county championship game the week before. So 563 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: but like that, that was still there was still some 564 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: decent first class players that the batting lineup was was 565 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: certainly strong. So yeah, I don't think England could be 566 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: could be pointing to that, and I think from a 567 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: long way out it probably was always going to be 568 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 2: a more of a Lions game than a front line 569 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: England England team. 570 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: All right, So that's Second Test in Brisbane starts on Thursday. 571 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: You can catch all the action on Fox channel and 572 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: Channel seven. Of course, Cricket dot com, dot you and 573 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: the SA Live app has you covered for all the 574 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 1: live blog, news reports, video highlights, stats, scores, you name it, 575 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: it's all there. So Louis, we'll catch you then and 576 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: we'll be doing the day one, Day two, hopefully, Day three. 577 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: Hopefully podcast wraps as well, so stay tuned to the 578 00:27:50,720 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: Unplayable podcast and we'll see you on the next episode