1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Great the flick with benohe well, Ben o'che, I feel 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: like there's we've been talking about this, you know in 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: the behind the scenes chattermane what a while now? 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely high ho hi ho. The cinema we go 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: to finally see Snow White, the live action remake from Disney, 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: and it has been controversial for really a couple of 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: years now. Firstly and probably least importantly because of the 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: casting of a Latina actress in Rachel Ziegler from West 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: Side Story as Snow White. There was some credits of 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: the Internet who weren't happy with that, just as they 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: weren't happy when they cast a black actress as the 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: Little Mermaid, And so that was really always quite ridiculous 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: because Rachel Ziegler is an amazing actor, Like if you 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: saw in West Side Story, she has got a set 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: of pipes. She is incredible. 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: What I recall ever hearing where Snow White was from, 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: all I know is she had black hair and ruby lips. 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: So you know, I mean, that's existel And in this case, 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: it's not that you know, her skin is as pure 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: and white as snow. It's her character and which is 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: which is ultimately what snow White was all about right 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: friends to the birds and the animals and the downtrodden 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 2: and the little people, and and then you know, from 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: then it became even more controversial because Rachel Sigler then 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: started talking sor sort of some pro Palestine stuff, which 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: is which is her right, which is her right to 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: do that in her own private life. It becomes a 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: bit awkward though, when your main cast mate is in 29 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: Israeli in Galgadote, so you know, so then there was 30 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: reports of some friction between those two Dot play. So 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 2: she shows an evil queen, but the evil queen from Wonder. 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: She look in the mirror and say, mirror, mirror on 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: the wall, who's that? 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: Oh you? 35 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: Yes, well at the start when the mirror says, oh 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: it's you. Of course it's you. No, dub don't know. 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: And then and then when the mirror is like, oh, 38 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: you know, maybe there's actually someone else. If they really 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: have you got eyes? You need to polish this mirror? 40 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: Does it blurry on your side? But no, this is 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: so that's where it does come a bit a bit 42 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: unstuck at that point. 43 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: But but and so and so, But it follows kind 44 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: of a similar similar storyline to the original cartoon is 45 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: now basically one hundred years old, but they had they 46 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: had to update it a little bit because you know, 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: you look at the cartoon now with sort of a 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 3: modern lens and you go, okay, this is really an 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: ode to contract killing and and you know, non consensual affection, 50 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: and so. 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: There's probably some issues there that we need to update. 52 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: He is not to look at it through a modern land, 53 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: you can't. It gets a fairy tale. And so so 54 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 2: really the storyline has been changed quite a bit. Instead 55 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: of you know, the Prince Charming coming up, now it's 56 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: a band of bandits who snow White joins in with 57 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: to fight against the queen. And so there's there's a 58 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: lot going on, and all of this stuff is honestly 59 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: quite average. But the thing that is the most appalling 60 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: of all is the seven Dwarfs, who are CG characters, 61 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: computer generated characters. And so there was some controversy over this. 62 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: Like Peter Dinklish, the Great Peter Diinglish is the great 63 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: little person actor from a Game of Thrones. Amazing, amazing. 64 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: He's come out, you know, in the past year or 65 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: so and said, well, you know, like you made all 66 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: this fuss about, you know, sort of a person of 67 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: color of snow white. But what about this CG dwarf situation? 68 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: Is this really okay? And he's got a great point. 69 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: You wonder why they couldn't have actually cast actual little 70 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: people in these roles. Would we had to find And 71 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: if that's not bad enough, the CG effects that they 72 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: use are terrifying, Like you talk about the Uncrowned Valley, 73 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: it is like a horror movie watching these dwarfs running around. 74 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: They have big heads, huge noses, the grotesque, grotesque, really 75 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: very hard to watch. Like it's like there are scenes 76 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: some of the some of the musical songs, like the 77 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: High Home Musical number, which is one of the classics 78 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: of the original, Like I would describe it as visual vomit. 79 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: That is hard to watch. It is We've got bashful 80 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: and happy and dope. They're all horrible. It's just watchable, scary, creepy, 81 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: we got creepy, we got nightmarriage, we got don't go 82 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: within two hundred meters of the school, We've got dramatic, 83 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: you name it, we've got it. And then also, and 84 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: it's also that you know the new songs by Passeck 85 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: and Paul who are an amazing songwriting duo who did 86 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: the songs in La La Land. They're all forgettable. All 87 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: the new songs are so average. Rachel Siegler does her best, 88 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: but there's only so good that she can do. When 89 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: you've got dialogue that's terrible. You know. At one point 90 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: her love interest, the kind of the chief of the bandits, 91 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: you know, she's talking to another character about him, and 92 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: she goes and she goes to this other character. Well, look, 93 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: you know Jonathan is Is. You know, he's nice, but 94 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: he only thinks about himself. And you go, hang on 95 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: a minute. In the very scene before this, we shore 96 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 2: we saw him take a crossbow dart for you, And 97 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 2: now you're saying he only thinks of himself. He nearly 98 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: killed himself to save you. Like, some of it just 99 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: makes no sense at all. And poor old Galga dot 100 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 2: Is she is so cheesy trying to be like theatrical. 101 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: It's like, even she is terrible. I love her. I 102 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: think she's so great, but what the what the heck 103 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: are we even doing with this movie. It's you know, 104 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: all the reasons that it was controversial, it's not controversial 105 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: for those the reasons it is terrible. It is. It 106 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: is absolute live and oh you know, I was I 107 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: was hoping that there was a poison apple in halfway 108 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: through my popcorn breakfast. He's got to be something to 109 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: put it, put me out of my misery here. It's 110 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: not good. Scary little girl, and most of these Disney 111 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: live action movies are not good. The Little Mermaid was 112 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: also a stinker. This is the same level it is. 113 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: Maybe it's worse. Actually, honestly, maybe it's so if. 114 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,119 Speaker 1: They're if they're this offensive, don't make them, leave them alone. 115 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: It's like they just don't know. It's bizarre. So how 116 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: many Mirror Mirror on the Wall? You're broken? Are you 117 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: giving it? Yeah? Mirror Mirror on the Wall, which is 118 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: the worst movie of them all this year. It's snow 119 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: White one and a half sounds general. That's for Rachel Ze. 120 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: She doesn't deserve she deserves better bandits. Yeah, Prince Charming, 121 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: there's no Prince Charming in here, but Gealgadot is still hot. 122 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah, okay, yeah, thanks Ben, Thanks thanks guys.