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Speaker 1: Get a I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,

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Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure

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Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,

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Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week I'll interview

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Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as they're lows,

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Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Right,

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Speaker 1: your ears are in for a real treat today because

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Speaker 1: we have not only a legend coming on the pod,

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Speaker 1: but someone with a beautiful, pretty iconic voice. Mike Goldman.

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Speaker 1: He is a voiceover legend, he is a host, he's

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Speaker 1: a naussy actor, and I've even just recently done his

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Speaker 1: voiceover course. Now he's given us a code Lola Berry

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Speaker 1: all in capitals means you get fifty dollars off if

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Speaker 1: you do his voice Academy be a better voice course.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to have all the links to that course

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Speaker 1: in the show notes, but yeah, if you want the

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Speaker 1: fifty bucks off, use the code Lola Berry or capitals.

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Speaker 1: But Mike really shares openly about the highs and lows

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Speaker 1: of his career, about his passion for acting. We talk

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Speaker 1: about Big Brother, and of course he was the iconic voice.

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Speaker 2: But also like when I say voice, like.

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Speaker 1: He hosted all those like uplate versions of Big Brother,

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Speaker 1: not versions, that's the wrong word, but you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. He's done so much Merecat manner.

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Speaker 2: Ads for RAID and Global.

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Speaker 1: As he talks about how lucrative that ad was, and

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Speaker 1: I think he had one word to say, so for

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Speaker 1: anybody that's into acting, hosting, stadium announcing, voice over acting,

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Speaker 1: of course, this is the pod for you. Mike is

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Speaker 1: very honest, very humble, and just super open about the

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Speaker 1: whole journey and he's had. He's worked in this industry.

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Speaker 1: His first job was when he was eleven years old,

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Speaker 1: so he's been in this industry for decades. And his

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Speaker 1: dad was a super famous radio announcer, voiceover actor, TV

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Speaker 1: presenter as well. I think his dad originally hosted a

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Speaker 1: countdown before Molly Meldrum. So been in the industry forever.

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Speaker 1: What a legend for sharing his time with us and

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Speaker 1: coming all the way to our Byron based studio to

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Speaker 1: do this as well. Mike, You're a legend. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for jumping on this pod, and to you

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Speaker 1: the listener, I hope you love it. It was just

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Speaker 1: such a joy and I learned loads. I hope you

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Speaker 1: do too.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's chat.

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Speaker 1: Let's chat.

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Speaker 2: Mike Goldman, pump to have you on the pod.

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Speaker 3: I'm pumped to be on the pod.

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Speaker 1: I have a few memories of you that I reckon

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Speaker 1: you might not have of me. Oh oh, so I

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Speaker 1: was trying to figure out the first time, obviously as

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Speaker 1: a viewer or a listener, Big Brother, like is where

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Speaker 1: I first I guess experience you from like watching my

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Speaker 1: tally Yeah right, But the first time I met you,

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Speaker 1: you was in Sydney. We were watching We're at a

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Speaker 1: movie launch at you know how when in Sydney the

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Speaker 1: screen comes out of the water near Sydney.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was like train spotting and Little Jones introduced us.

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Speaker 1: That was the first time. Second time after that Sydney

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Speaker 1: King's Game, Uh huh. I was there with my mate

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Speaker 1: James Curly and we were sitting on the side and

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Speaker 1: I remember, I remember you were like the world's best

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Speaker 1: what's it called stadium announcer?

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Speaker 3: What's it called Kudos Bank Stadium in Sydney. I was

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Speaker 3: the stadium announcer.

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Speaker 1: Is that looks like a hard job, crowd like keeping

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Speaker 1: the crowd. So you have done so much to me.

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Speaker 1: You are like the king of voiceover in Australia.

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Speaker 3: I thank you for sure, I'll take that title.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but actor, I got to soak up your Young.

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Speaker 3: Rock did you see me on Young rebsolutely?

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Speaker 1: So here's my take on your American accent. Your American

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Speaker 1: accent is like almost a perfect voice match for Hugh

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Speaker 1: Jackman's Get.

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Speaker 3: Out of Town. That's an amazing compliment. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: So there you go, voice matching down the line, Wolverine.

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Speaker 3: Yep. So if anyone was Hugh Jackman and he's out

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Speaker 3: of your price range, just to go budget Mike Goldman,

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Speaker 3: budget huge. I'm the aldi Hugh Jackman.

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Speaker 1: I fully think your American accent is like I'm the

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Speaker 2: All honestly, I was like, that sounds so much like

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Speaker 3: Wow, thank you. I'm Wolverine.

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Speaker 1: It's something that happens to like your American dialect. You

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Speaker 3: Maybe I should just talk an American accent the whole interview.

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Speaker 1: Go for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, hi is Hugh Jackman. I'm on fearlessly failing

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Speaker 3: with Laula Berry.

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Speaker 1: See what I mean, anybody listening is gonna be like, yes, great, exactly,

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Speaker 3: To be here. So we just finished filming Wolverine and

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Speaker 3: it was great show, and uh, you know, work with

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Speaker 3: the whole Huben new actors and Ryan Reynolds. Unfortunately he's

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Speaker 3: a pain in the ass.

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Speaker 1: Because they're doing dead Pool three. I've heard the fan

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Speaker 1: theory that Taylor Swift is in it as a new

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Speaker 1: Marvel character, the Dazzler, pop star by day, superhero by night.

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Speaker 3: When are we going to have enough of Taylor Swift?

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Speaker 2: No, wow, I think are.

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Speaker 3: You a massive Taylor fan?

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Speaker 2: I'm here, I am drinking the kool Aide.

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Speaker 1: She's so Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 3: I was offer when I couldn't get tickets to the

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Speaker 3: much anymore. It's I have to start letting myself down easy,

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Speaker 1: What, though she can do no wrong in my eyes,

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Speaker 1: I think, okay, So hang on, I want to get

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Speaker 1: back to you because I think you're unreal and I

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Speaker 1: feel like we've been lucky enough to cross pads a

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm amazed that you remember those at those times

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Speaker 3: that we met. There was another time that we met

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Speaker 3: and it sort of slotted in between those. I think,

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Speaker 3: I think I know what this is? What is it?

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Speaker 2: It wasn't that event at your launch.

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Speaker 3: I went along to yoga with James Curley and you

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Speaker 2: That's in Sydney.

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Speaker 1: Ye oh wow, that's so the other one I was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and you inspire Alibi room Alibi. I just

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Speaker 3: threw a party there on Monday night at south By Southwest.

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Speaker 1: My goodness, you don't stop. Well that's when when you

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Speaker 1: said yesterday this pod, I was like, oh, you have

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Speaker 2: I've just got back from La.

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Speaker 1: You have that American work ethic of just like yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get it.

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Speaker 3: Do it, get done, do it, but reel.

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Speaker 2: Like go getter.

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Speaker 1: And I have just finished doing your Voice Academy course

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Speaker 3: My voiceover course. You are officially the first person to

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Speaker 3: do it in twenty four hours. I have never heard

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Speaker 3: of anyone doing my course that quick. It was either geez,

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Speaker 3: I got to get through this is fucking boring, or

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Speaker 2: I well, so here's my thing.

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Speaker 1: I have been. I've done about six years of solid

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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, this community is making such.

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Speaker 3: A massive market and once once you land a couple

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Speaker 3: And it's it's a whole industry over there that's just massive,

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Speaker 3: and if you're at the top of your game, you

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Speaker 2: But I love the community too.

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Speaker 1: Like in America, you come out of the booth and

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Speaker 1: your classmates to be cheering you. It's like in Australia

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Speaker 1: when I go up and do an acting scene, it's silent,

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Speaker 1: like you can hear a pin drop, isn't it really?

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Speaker 3: Where do you do acting training? All the places I've

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Speaker 3: been to they're like, yeah, yeah, we got this weekly

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Speaker 3: class that we do in Brisbane. It's just called scenes

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Speaker 3: just go get drunk. But it's all working actors in Brisbane,

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Speaker 3: do a scene from Heat with Robert de Niro and

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Speaker 3: from Pretty Woman.

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think if you're studying to be an

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Speaker 2: Right and they're like, oh, we can put you in

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Speaker 3: And make it fun. Make sure you're having fun. If

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Speaker 1: It took me a long time to find the right

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Speaker 3: It's very like it's hard to avoid those ones. Like

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Speaker 2: It's wild. It's called this is the method acting and

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Speaker 3: To see a counselor not not an acting coach.

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Speaker 1: Why but do you know I finally right for I

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Speaker 1: But on the last day she was like, hey, can

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Speaker 1: we're like sure. So we're sitting in our seats and

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Speaker 1: Jen Aniston comes in and teaches as a masterclass.

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Speaker 3: What no way, I would.

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Speaker 2: Say Jen Adiston teachings.

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Speaker 3: What was she like?

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Speaker 1: Incredible? She talked a lot about lateral acting, so getting

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Speaker 2: As opposed to like moment before I am acdoor breath.

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Speaker 2: You know how we've kind of got that weird.

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Speaker 1: That's how it should be natural, right. I had no

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Speaker 1: Do you love live TV?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I love live so much because you can just

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Speaker 3: all day and get photos. And one day a housemate

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Speaker 3: didn't show up and they asked me to do it,

442
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,600
Speaker 3: and they paid me to do it, and I wore

443
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Speaker 3: this white shirt and you're basically letting people come up

444
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,359
Speaker 3: and put their arm around you and take a photo

445
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,639
Speaker 3: and you put an arm around you. So I they

446
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,440
Speaker 3: had like a thousand people there arm around me. By

447
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I just had this green

448
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 3: patch of slime because people are running around dream World

449
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,440
Speaker 3: and going on rides. And then my shoulders just stank

450
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,159
Speaker 3: like some weird monster and started talking to me. It

451
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:56,959
Speaker 3: was disgusting.

452
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Speaker 2: That's amazing. Okay, So here's thing.

453
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Speaker 1: You have this incredible skill set aside from like all

454
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Speaker 1: the like we've talked about acting, we've talked about like

455
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 1: your incredible voice over Korea.

456
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 2: But like where did it all start? Did it start

457
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Speaker 2: from dad?

458
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, my mom and dad. Yeah. My mum was

459
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 3: a weather girl on Channel seven. She was Miss Australian

460
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 3: Beach Girl in ninety one. My dad was hosting that

461
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 3: competition and that's where they hooked up hack you and

462
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 3: she was weather going on Channel seven, Channel ten, Channel

463
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Speaker 3: oh in Brisbane and quite a successful module as well.

464
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Speaker 3: But Dad, you know, worked on radio from the age

465
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Speaker 3: of fourteen or fifteen, started two TM Tamworth and you

466
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Speaker 3: know worked at most of the radio stations in Australia.

467
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Speaker 3: He would often say I've been fired from all radio

468
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 3: stations in Australia. He worked at so many differentes, but

469
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Speaker 3: the one he was aut for the longest was two

470
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 3: SEM in Sydney and he was there for like twenty

471
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Speaker 3: five years or something like that, and he was inducted

472
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Speaker 3: into the Radio Hall of Fame, the Country Music Hall

473
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Speaker 3: of Fame. And he's still the voice on the Sydney

474
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 3: Harbor Bridge Climb and the voice on the tour buses.

475
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 3: He was the voice of the Trains in Sydney when

476
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 3: they first had a voice of the trains, and the

477
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 3: first host of Countdown before Molly Milton. How cool, and

478
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 3: that was also the first live color TV show in

479
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Speaker 3: austrain and TV history.

480
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Speaker 2: Do you remember any pearls of wisdom your dad gave me?

481
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of pearls of wisdom

482
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 3: from him. I mean he's get so much experience working

483
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 3: in so many different aspects of radio and voiceover. But

484
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 3: I remember he had a little voiceover booth at home

485
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Speaker 3: in Kirker where we lived, and I was trying to

486
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 3: do my first voice servers at age like twelve or ten.

487
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 3: You'd be standing over me like the same as doing

488
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Speaker 3: my math's homework. And now you got it wrong. That

489
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 3: like as a kid, I'm like, I'm trying. But then

490
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Speaker 3: I got my voice agent at age twelve. Yeah, and

491
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Speaker 3: I was the first kid signed up with an agency

492
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 3: called Aaron Kanese. Yeah, yeah, and I was doing I

493
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Speaker 3: think one of my first ads was for Commodore sixty

494
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 3: or computers.

495
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 2: I wrote this down.

496
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Speaker 3: With a guy called PJ. He's a legendary voice of

497
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Speaker 3: a guy in Sydney. And then I'd be doing stuff

498
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 3: with people like you know, Gretel Colleen and Robin Moore.

499
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Speaker 3: And I actually had a pager when I was in

500
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Speaker 3: second class at school. It would be in classes like Goldman,

501
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 3: turn your pager to vibrate. Sorry, miss, I've got to

502
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 3: go my parents picking me up in ten minutes, going

503
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 3: to do an ad. But I actually actually train. The

504
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 3: teachers were all knew they had to go to go

505
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: and do a voiceover. But I figured out how to

506
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: make the page you go off. When I didn't actually

507
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 3: have a job, I just go on wag school genius.

508
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Speaker 1: Oh I'm so glad you did.

509
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 2: Oh amazing. Oh my, there are so many questions I've got.

510
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: I've got to ask about me a cat manor was

511
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: that so much fun?

512
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was? It was really cool. So that was

513
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 3: that was a worldwide show and Bill Ny did it

514
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 3: in the US. In the UK sorry, and Elijah would

515
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Speaker 3: in the US.

516
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Speaker 1: You've done your research, Oh yeah, I'm very nerdy.

517
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: And David Mott, who was the then program director of

518
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: Chennel ten said, you know, we've got the show called

519
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Speaker 3: Me a Cat manor which want to straight and I

520
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 3: a bit. We're going to get you to come on

521
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 3: and host it on camera and introduce you know, the

522
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 3: Lasuli tribe and the flower and you're Sirian and all

523
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: these different yeercats before we do the show. And then

524
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 3: I narrated the whole show. And it's actually I'd be

525
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 3: listening to Elijah Wood's voice and then we'd write it

526
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: as we go because he would be saying some stuff

527
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: that Americans would say that Australians would really say. And

528
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 3: then some episodes we'd be listening Bill Nai and and

529
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: you know, just changing it and australianizing it a bit.

530
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Speaker 3: But that was hugely popably. Still people say to me,

531
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Speaker 3: oh my god, I.

532
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Speaker 2: Have to ask about the raid ad as well.

533
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 3: Raid Yeah. Yeah, the Mosquito literally.

534
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: Was but wasn't it like the owner of the company

535
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: was in one country.

536
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Speaker 2: Someone was in New York and.

537
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Speaker 3: France, in New York and in London, and I was

538
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 3: at Ian Boyce's who was my agent at the time.

539
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 3: They have a studio in Bondo Junction and they're all

540
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Speaker 3: telling me how to make a mosquito.

541
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's literally.

542
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: That's what And that was because that's a global campaign.

543
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: That would be a pretty good payday.

544
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 3: Right it was like about thirteen or fourteen grand.

545
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: For one word.

546
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 3: That was huge. Yeah, that was really good, isn't it? Just?

547
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: So?

548
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 2: Okay? What do you like?

549
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,239
Speaker 1: So you've got this like the cool thing about you

550
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: is you've got this passion for all the stuff that

551
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: you do. You've got the skill set, but you've also

552
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: you're actually working like I I think we know this

553
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: about actors, like the success raiders about two percent, and

554
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: so I just think I used to when I was

555
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: in Sydney, I trained a Russell Crowe's gym and I

556
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: remember it was called ninety eight Riley Street. Because you've

557
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: got to be in the top two percent to kind

558
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,239
Speaker 1: of like cut through, right, eight percent don't. And I

559
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 1: just think like you've been able to cut through that.

560
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 2: So I want to know, like, what.

561
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: If you know, if you had to pick, would you

562
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: prefer to like act or voice? Like they're too because

563
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: to me, they're kind of different beca.

564
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Speaker 3: Acting Yeah, I mean, there's nothing I hate learning lines,

565
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 3: learning lines, But once you've got those lines, you can

566
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: play around and you have a bit of fun with you.

567
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: You know what My trick for learning a script is

568
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: you've got to move when you're learning it. You can't

569
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 1: be seated. But if you're moving, even if you're stacking

570
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: the dishwasher, learning walking around, like, if you're moving.

571
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: I write the lines down and then I record them

572
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 3: on my iPhone and I'll just listen to them driving

573
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 3: in the car, and that's that's a good way to

574
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 3: remember them. But I don't remember the lines as you know,

575
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 3: how I'm going to be emotionally or anything like that.

576
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 3: Just remember the lines flat. Is that way I can

577
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 3: react because acting is all about reacting to what the

578
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: other person's doing because they might say the wrong line

579
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: and then you just run with it and you just

580
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 3: say something ridiculous.

581
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, that's the way to do it.

582
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: They always all the best teachers say to me, is

583
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: like learn it almost without punctuation, without just literally learn

584
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: it as cold as possible.

585
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Speaker 2: But one thing I have to if I'm doing an American.

586
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,959
Speaker 1: Script, I have to steal it on dialect because otherwise

587
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm creating like extra jobs for myself down and the

588
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: way Australians inflect is.

589
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: The opposite, very different.

590
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: The way in a merit. So I'll just be like,

591
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: just learn it on dialect and learn it flat and

592
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: then you can have fun with it in the line.

593
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: It's so addictive though, because I for many years my

594
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: dream was to be a talk show host. That was

595
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: my like ultimate like Steve Colbert, sign me up right,

596
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: that was an ultimate dream. And then I was I

597
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: did this audition for Channel seven where I was co

598
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: hosting with Limo, like and they were swapping out the girls,

599
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: and they swapping out the guys, so it would be Limo,

600
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: then it'd be Tim Robuds and you would have been

601
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: great too. It's just basically to find two hosts of

602
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: a lifestyle TV show, right, And I was so nervous

603
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: about the auto Q that I was like, I'll just

604
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: learn it by rote. And as soon as I sat down,

605
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, we've switched the script. Here's a new one,

606
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, so I caught ups acting school

607
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, I can see you do

608
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: a TV presenting course. I just want to make sure

609
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: I learn AUTOQ. Can you book me? And they're like, look,

610
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: it's full. What about acting school? And I was like

611
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: I'd rather as swim with sharks and they're like great sign.

612
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: And then I became addicted. Yeah, it's something bigger than

613
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: you that I love about acting.

614
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: It's like something like saying to my acting coaches, like

615
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: something's running through your veins, like it's like an art

616
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: form that it's not like where's that camera, where's that eyeline,

617
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: which you would have to do all the time for

618
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: so much of like that more hosting, presenting, crowd warm

619
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: up stuff as well. You need to like kind of

620
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: be your own producer, I feel. But then when you're

621
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: an actor, it's like you're kind of an artist giving

622
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: over to something that's bigger than you.

623
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's like when you know, you write a song

624
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: and you're perform it as a band and everyone's enjoying

625
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 3: it in the crowd and you're like, wow, this is great,

626
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 3: I actually wrote these words playing it on stage and

627
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: people are loving it. But when you're an actor, you know,

628
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: you've got a script and you have to interpret that script,

629
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 3: and you have to react to what someone's doing on

630
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 3: the stage, and you've got to make it seem as

631
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 3: real as possible, and you've got to fuel it with

632
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: your emotions, like a singer would, you know, put their

633
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: emotions into the words to make make their voice sound

634
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 3: so much better and more realistic. It's fine, And when

635
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: you see it on the screen and people are enjoying it,

636
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: you get a good review, and actually people watch it,

637
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: it's like it's the best feeling.

638
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 2: Right, It's just like it just fit to me.

639
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: It feels like I was like, Oh, that's that magic

640
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: like thing that people must chase as actors. I imagine

641
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: that feeling of like something bigger than you.

642
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: I love it.

643
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: Okay, So if acting is like if you had to

644
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: like pick, if that's where you would want to be,

645
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: Like as far as like you can only have one

646
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: job for the rest of your life, even though you've

647
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: got these kind of like I feel like within the

648
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: entertainment umbrella, you've kind of got for four ish kind

649
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: of jobs, like voiceover, different styles of voiceover, because you

650
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: also done character work with voiceover as well. Then the

651
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: acting it's like what would be the dream? Kind of

652
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: like I guess Series Regular awesome, but also like.

653
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: In America, you have to know your like your pitch line.

654
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: In an elevator hole. Yeah, so what kind of actor?

655
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, where would you see it? Like Series Regular? Course,

656
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: like streaming is obviously we we're all going to be

657
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: the dream.

658
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: I mean there's there's people who actually charge for this.

659
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Speaker 3: They say, you're come and have a meeting with you.

660
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: Now I look at earlier reels. Yeah, and I will

661
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: tell you the roles that you need to chase. I'm

662
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: basically that pigeonhole you. Yeah, they say, okay, sorry, Lulaberry.

663
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: You are a lawyer, and you maybe maybe to work

664
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Speaker 3: as an army cadet as well. That's it. That's all

665
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: you should chase. Otherwise you're wasting your time. I've been

666
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: told I could be a lawyer. You know what you've

667
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: played in Young Rock, like.

668
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: A great lawyer.

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Speaker 3: In Young Boss of a Company, I played an American

670
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: studio boss on a Place to Call Home, And you know,

671
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: so maybe that army kind of Oh yeah, me in

672
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: my heart, like I want to be funny, I want

673
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: to have it. But if it's what I look like

674
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: and then and then these are the roles I'm going

675
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: to get. Well, that's that's the kind of stuff I'm

676
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: going to chase.

677
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: You know what did I get?

678
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: I got told there's a character of going with Thrones

679
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: Natalie something other. So that's just looks department. They were like, okay,

680
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: her meets Jerry from Succession. I was like, Jerry's like

681
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: sixty five years old, but she's really like ballsy and

682
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: like cut like cutthroat. And I was like, okay, so

683
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: it's that kind of.

684
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: Like definitely see the Game of Drones. Yeah, I know

685
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: about the Succession thing, but the Game of Thrones thing

686
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: for sure.

687
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so interesting.

688
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: Doing a medieval mma movie next year. I think maybe

689
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: you could do a role in that.

690
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: Sign may up, Sign me up.

691
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: That's the thing that I love about the way you

692
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: were saying, like, get to an acting class, be around

693
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: other writers and creators, like it is so much fun

694
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: because even for me i'm writing something at the moment,

695
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, where would your voice it? Like, when

696
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm meeting people, I'm like, that's where their voice sits.

697
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: I know who's the baddies voices straight away? I know,

698
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: like it's so fun when you're around creatives because it's

699
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: like creativity spurs creativity, and then it's just like and

700
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: when people it's hard being an actor and being in

701
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: this industry. And you talked about it really beautifully in

702
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: your voice Academy course, like you were like, some days

703
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: are tough. Yeah they are, and you have really successful

704
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: years and then you can have lulls and you're like,

705
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm not immune to it, like you you shared that

706
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: really really open.

707
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Speaker 3: I was cleaning my ambmb this morning. Hey it's an

708
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: all sunshine and roses.

709
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: No, but I mean, how great that you've got.

710
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: And you said the importance of having like these other

711
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: because you hear a lot of actors go, don't have

712
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: a plan being You're like, have the safety net, Like

713
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Speaker 1: that was your advice.

714
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: I have these other.

715
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: Forms of absolutely, like you have a lot of actors

716
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: who are successful to say, you know, you must focus

717
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: and that's all you want. You chase your dreams. Yeah,

718
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 3: but the thing is you've got to be realistic. You're like,

719
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: you've got to be able to pay the bills. You'll

720
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: be able to put food on the table, especially if

721
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: you have kids. Yeah, you know, so set up some

722
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: way that you can have a passive income, whether you know,

723
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: maybe you've you've got a you know, Airbnb or a

724
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: roomy rent out of your house, or you know, maybe

725
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: maybe you want to make some stuff and sell it

726
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: at the local markets and Saturdays your day that you

727
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: make money and in between auditions you're you know, running

728
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 3: the Instagram is going to sell the stuff at the markets?

729
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: Is that this? Like I met a guy last week

730
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: and he has a tomato stand at the at the

731
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: markets in Brisbane jam Powers Farmers' markets. He's an actor.

732
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, actor, what are you doing here? And he goes, oh,

733
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: I've got to make that makes that grows tomatoes up

734
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: in the hinterland and Byron and I just get down

735
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: there once a week and he sells them to be

736
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: cheap and this this pays my rent and I love it.

737
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Speaker 1: Do you know when I went back to when I've

738
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: just got back from la I remember I was like, oh,

739
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: it's so hard converting Australian dollars to US dollars, right,

740
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: because it's sixty three cents to do it the other way, right, yeah,

741
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: beautiful the other way. And I was like shippers, like

742
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: if I don't figure out a way to make us dollars.

743
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm just going to bleed through Australian savings. And I

744
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: know most Aussies do that. Over there, you go, there,

745
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: you do, you stand, you come home with the tower

746
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: between your legs. It's like the common And I was like,

747
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? And I started a minimum

748
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: wage job. I just worked at a yoga studio checking

749
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: people in for the yoga classes. Sixteen dollars fifteen an hour.

750
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: Oh but hey there's thirty bucks Australian right, And.

751
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: It's like covered all my groceries, covered all my gas.

752
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: If I worked enough shifts, it would cover my car

753
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: rental as well. And it just took such a load

754
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: of pressure off. And because of where I was teaching,

755
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: we were working with teaching, I was working, should I say,

756
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: front desk, you would have like directors coming because we

757
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: will write up to HBO and Apple and you're having

758
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: these conversations.

759
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: I feel it, but it is interesting.

760
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: You've just got to pull like I think there's a

761
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: big thing about like letting go of the ego totally

762
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: right and just being like okay, well I'm doing this,

763
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: And it actually made me hungrier.

764
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: Toilet right, actually up a lot of shit at that.

765
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: But I think that that work ethic is something that

766
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: I love and I think I know you've got that

767
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: within you, just from the way that you said yes

768
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: to this Podcastah, I'll be there like you just.

769
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: No.

770
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: But I like the way your brain works.

771
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: Like it's quick. It's like, let's get it done. You've

772
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: just been working south by Southwestern Sydney.

773
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was great, amazing week. It looks like

774
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to Austin too, hopefully you're coming.

775
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: Amazing. So okay, so let's look into a crystal ball.

776
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: Nothing else matters right now, just doing career wise, say

777
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: you landed your dream job. I think you've got comedy

778
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: bones for shore. Well we know this, like what would that?

779
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: And I don't know you're saying like you like comedy,

780
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: but you've been told like we're your type cast, which

781
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: you've all been told. But like if someone said to me,

782
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, nothing else matters, I'd be like Emmy's Red

783
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: Carpet two years from now on a Ted Lasso spin off, right,

784
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: Like that'd be probably one of my dreams, like part

785
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: of a comedy ensemble with a bit of heart, you.

786
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: Know, because you did ground or something, didn't you.

787
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: I did Leslie KHM, which is sitcom.

788
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: Training groundlings as well, when amazing psych a comedy is

789
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 3: improv comedy school.

790
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you got Second City as well.

791
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: All those kids come, all those amazing comedians come through those.

792
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: I did improv training in LA and I was like

793
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: fuck this, No, I'm like, I am failing so much.

794
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: It was just and I'd have such anxiety those days.

795
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: And so that's when I found that calm space was

796
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: kind of where it was like a happy medium.

797
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, all different skill sets.

798
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Groundlings, but I did run into a

799
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: few issues when I, you know, speak in Australian accent

800
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: and I'd say corridor instead of highway and and just

801
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: different words and that they wouldn't laugh because they go, huh,

802
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 3: what's that word mean? You know?

803
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's cultural.

804
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 3: It's yeah, cultural stuff. It's really hard. Yeah.

805
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: I found that so hard an improv school because they'd

806
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: be like, make a joke about six Flags, and I'm like,

807
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: what the hell of six which is like a massive

808
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: roller coaster theme.

809
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: But I had no idea. So if we were to

810
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: look into a crystal.

811
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: Ball five years from now, where.

812
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: You welcome to Lola's Crystal Ball. Let's look into the

813
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: Life of my Goldman. Well, hey, everyone would love to

814
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: have their own who's an actor, their own show, you know,

815
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: like even if I was just best Supporting Actor on

816
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: the at the Oscars, you know, something like that would

817
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: be incredible. You know, We've got movies that I'm actually

818
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: helping put together myself. If all of a sudden, you know,

819
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: one of those came off as a worldwide phenomenon. Like

820
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: one of the shows that I'm involved with this called Metropius,

821
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: and the girl who wrote that won an Augie Award,

822
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: like you Best Best Writer. And it's like an animated

823
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: series that I play a character in. If that got

824
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: up ten episodes and that would be incredible, and that

825
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: get turns into a video game, that would be amazing.

826
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 3: And then there's another movie called Iron Will that I'm

827
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: hoping to make next year, and another movie I'm writing,

828
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: which is about these bachelorettes that have a holiday gone wrong.

829
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: And so you want to all of those, all of

830
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Speaker 3: the above just blowing up.

831
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I like that You've got multiple things, and

832
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: that to me is like the American.

833
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: I've got lots of irons in the freezer.

834
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: I love it.

835
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: I really just figure out which way to pull out

836
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 3: defrost this one. Let's make that into a show, right.

837
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: And I think it's also about like I don't know,

838
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: like I'm writing fiction for the first time ever. I've

839
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: written eleven books of non fiction purely because I was like, oh,

840
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: I can sell the animation rights and to sell my

841
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: voice time.

842
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: Give us a teaser, like what happens in it?

843
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: What is about it's kids kids book?

844
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you should come to the Australian Children's Content

845
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: Conference and I host in Coffs Harbor. Yeah, it's all

846
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: of all of the biggest production companies around the world

847
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: that make kids shows. All there really huge. It's like

848
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 3: I met the lady who runs Reese Witherspoon's film company

849
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: and you know how they have the book club and

850
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 3: then they turn them all in boobies. I'm at the

851
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 3: head of Sony Pictures Kids in the US who was there,

852
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: and you know they're making Charlie's Angels for the kids

853
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: version of that he was telling me about and bringing

854
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 3: back Wheel of Fortune. And if you on the show, yeah, yes,

855
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: it's like some great contacts at that You're definitely going

856
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 3: to come to that next year.

857
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: I love Coughs some the big Banana.

858
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: Right And you know also in Coffs Harbor it's the

859
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: Australian Cartoon Gallery is there as well. Yeah, everything from

860
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: Bluey to all these different cartoons over there have.

861
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: Such You're like an encyclopedia of all things.

862
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: And that is why I do want to ask you quickly,

863
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: and I know I could talk to you all day long.

864
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: The course that I've just done, like Sony, people ask

865
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: me like where should I train?

866
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: What should it is one of the most common things

867
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: I get asked.

868
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: And I have just done your course, I have just

869
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: finished your congratulations.

870
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Speaker 2: I frigging loved it.

871
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: It was the thing that was so that I loved

872
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: most was that you had really practical takeaways, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is how you do with plugins, Oh this is

874
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Speaker 1: what like I didn't know what it is at door

875
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Speaker 1: like d A W.

876
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 3: I didn't know what digital audio works.

877
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: They didn't know that Matt Matt's coming out like and

878
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: I could see Matt like poking his head around, being like,

879
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: this is my dog, this is what I do.

880
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: Well. You need to be able to especially if you're

881
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: doing an audition and you know, you're sending an audition

882
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: to a studio that doesn't have an audio engineer. You

883
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: need to make your your tracks stand out and it

884
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: needs to sound amazing. But if you're sending an audio

885
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: tractor to a studio, they don't want you to do

886
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: any processing to it, so you just you just send

887
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: it to them flat responses they call it. So it's

888
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 3: there's a lot of stuff to learn, but hey, a

889
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 3: fun way to learn it. Just watch me all about

890
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: it and get on the Facebook group as well, and

891
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 3: you can talk to other upcoming voice over talents.

892
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna put a link in the show notes

893
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: to your course if that's okay with you. And yeah,

894
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: I think it's awesome, and I think anyone that's interested

895
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: or even just like interested in like any part of

896
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: kind of like that voiceover world. It's so fascinating and

897
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: I learned so much. And I'm someone that's trained.

898
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 2: I can have done about eight different voiceover courses in LA.

899
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah right, wow, in all different.

900
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: Like that's a lot. That's eight more than me.

901
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: Well, because they do them for such specific things like

902
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: a weekend just on animation, and you do another course

903
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: just on video games like the video game efforts.

904
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: I had not do you know what that is? I

905
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: didn't even know until I.

906
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: Was in La No Where the video games what.

907
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: And it's called an effort. And it's like if you

908
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: get punch, it's like and like different punches in and

909
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: like if you get stabbed in your neck versusf you

910
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: get stabbed in and you're gonna be like, oh like

911
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: and make all the burning by dying via fire, urning

912
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 1: dying via like a grenade hitting you like you learn

913
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: and you sit in a room and just got like

914
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: one at a time.

915
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: I have to make the best death.

916
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 3: Can I hear you're dying by fire?

917
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, well you I actually interviewed my teacher

918
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: and it blows out. The MIC's completely off, MiCT, that's

919
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: exactly how you do it.

920
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: I can't bet you. But it's so interesting. And I

921
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 2: actually found video games the hardest.

922
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: I much preferred like a southern bell like mum from

923
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: a cartoon. Like we were studying this cartoon called Vamparina,

924
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: and it was like this southern mum and all the

925
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: kids of vampires. I was like, oh, this is like

926
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: what I want to see, but it's it's so scary,

927
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: boys like I think character work versus commercial commercial you

928
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: get given your specs. Yeah, you know what's expected. You

929
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: give it a nice red hot crack. Make it either

930
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: like more natural or give it a bit more like

931
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: in America, I think there's a bit more like like it.

932
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: Donald's thing today.

933
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: And it was just like very like you're landing all

934
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: the like ooziness of like the bacon and you.

935
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, yeah, I have an actually ever done a

936
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 3: video game. And when I was at south By Southwest,

937
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: I thought, okay, I want to do a video game.

938
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 3: Let's go to the video game section and talk to

939
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: some developers. And there was this at the Mecure Hotel

940
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: just just near the Central Station train station there. The

941
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: video game section is. South By Southwest took over their

942
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: function center and they had about fifty TVs with all

943
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 3: the different games that are upcoming and launching, and a

944
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 3: lot of them with developers. So I just went and

945
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: saturd every game I didn't have a voice, and started

946
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 3: doing like a voice over for it. And I picked

947
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: up my first game. It's a it's a car game

948
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: like Rocketball, and then if you played Rocket League.

949
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about it.

950
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 3: They just and I said, this game needs like a commentator.

951
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: They say, what's going on? And so I just started

952
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: talking to American accent and like doing the whole commentary

953
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 3: thing done before, and they're like, this is who we need.

954
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: So, you know, the cool thing about the Last of

955
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: Us I saw you've in beautiful Pedro Pascal.

956
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a legend, Daddy, I have such a crash.

957
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I've watched that YouTube clip of you interviewing him.

958
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: But the cool thing about Last of Us, which is

959
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: based off a video game, is it's super rare for

960
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: voice actors video games to then be cast, and they

961
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: cast nearly all the lead characters in the actual show

962
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: as different roles. But how some over, how cool is

963
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: that because they wanted to give the actors, like I know,

964
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: I was sort of so sweet because it's such a

965
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: massive I think that that that game has been going

966
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: for years.

967
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh it's huge.

968
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: And then they've changed the trajectory of these like voice

969
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: actors career and.

970
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: They've all of a sudden, you know, they've got acting

971
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 3: gigs and they were twenty four other jobs everywhere. That

972
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: was fun that year?

973
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: Was it?

974
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: That was it? What's it called Comic Con in San France.

975
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: Is that where you did that?

976
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? And I wasn't invited. I you know black Milk,

977
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: the tights he used to wear them, Yeah, anyway, made

978
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: of mine. He worked with them as the marketing manager.

979
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 3: And he said he's going to Comic Con in the States.

980
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: He said, okay, come give me, just get me a

981
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: pass so I can sneak into some of the events

982
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: and I'll just interview people. And I basically just pretended

983
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: I had an interview lined up with him. And there

984
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: was a launch of Game of Drones, beer and the

985
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: Foot and me by myself with a camera and a microphone,

986
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: and I just just when it was my turn, I go,

987
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: can you hold this camera? And I did the interview.

988
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: I was only like five minute minutes and the guy

989
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: hit record for him and then he hit record and

990
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: it stopped. And I did the interview and I'm so sorry,

991
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: but he didn't record, and I had to wait four

992
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 3: more people and he said, yeah, let's do it again.

993
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 3: That's fine, sweetie. But then I went and I shot

994
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: in the Star Wars party and there were no one

995
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: doing interviews in there. I stuck my camera in and

996
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: I met one of the directors of a Showka, you

997
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: know that new Star Wars thing, But he was just

998
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: doing the Rebel Wars and some of the animated series.

999
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: And I've got the best interview with him, and I

1000
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: go around talking to like Stormtroopers and stuff. And then

1001
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: and then my agent got a cease and desist letter

1002
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 3: from LucasArts saying, you know you can't release that no interviews?

1003
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know I have I have a good

1004
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: Star Wars a beautiful guest that's been on this podcast. Bonnie.

1005
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: She was in Star Wars episode two in two thousand

1006
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: and two, little Aussie girl.

1007
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 2: They reached out to her.

1008
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: Twenty years later and she just did Obi Wan Kenobi,

1009
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: same role twenty years older. Yeah, no, yeah, hackles that

1010
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: and they reached out to her on Actors Access. Lucasfilms

1011
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: had sent her a request direct on Actors Access.

1012
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: That's the dream, isn't it. When you're in LA and

1013
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: if you're up in the Hollywood Hills and you're staring

1014
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: out over this beautiful city, you just think about all

1015
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: the dreams that are coming true that day. Yeah, Like

1016
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: Nicholas Cage used to go up sitting in the hills

1017
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: and just stare out there and you apparently meditate and

1018
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 3: manifest and you know that he was going to be

1019
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 3: a massive star one day.

1020
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: I love it.

1021
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: I love that stuff. It works. It works, man.

1022
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: After the best of us. I got from an activate

1023
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: in La. He's incredible. His name's Anthony Lapalia. He's big

1024
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: Australian act and he goes, buckle in, buckle in.

1025
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: He's like, he goes, there's a lot of fluff in acting.

1026
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: He's like, I always say, I like acting, i'dn't like

1027
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: the box that comes in. And he's always like, I

1028
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: just let all the fluff buckle in and work hard.

1029
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 3: I remember he was on the red carpet for Mad

1030
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 3: Max in La. Yeah, and I saw that the premiere

1031
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 3: was on and I didn't have an invite, So I

1032
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: just rocked up to the red carpet dressed in a

1033
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 3: suit with my camera. And so you're going to Mike

1034
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 3: here just shooting shooting some stuff for the TV network

1035
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 3: in Australia News networks. I'm not on the list. That's ridiculous.

1036
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 3: Just landed. I just flew here, Australian and she goes

1037
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: just stand there and just you can just interview people

1038
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 3: in the red carpet Megan Gail a buggy, how coy

1039
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: and uh and I got all this great footage and

1040
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: I thought I edited together and I actually sold it

1041
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: to like the Career Mail and Daily Mail, and I

1042
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: probably only made like five hundred bucks. Yeah, made it,

1043
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: tax it actable.

1044
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: I love it.

1045
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: I love you are phenomenal.

1046
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So for someone listening, that might be the infancy

1047
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: of their career or in it and kind of sitting

1048
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: in the rejection a bit, because that is a huge

1049
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: part of it. What advice have you got for if

1050
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: it all feels a bit too like a dream that

1051
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: is untouchable.

1052
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: Team up with people who have the same dream.

1053
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh, I like that.

1054
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 3: Work with other people who want to do what you

1055
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: want to do, and just sort of build a crew

1056
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 3: around with you and make your own stuff. Because I'm

1057
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: a big believer that the cream rises to the top.

1058
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 3: I mean, you can do a good show real and

1059
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: you can send it out to one hundred agents and

1060
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: they're all just going to go, who is this person?

1061
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: It's an I'm a bloody show reel. But if you

1062
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 3: make something and it gets in a film festival, or

1063
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: you make something and a streaming service picks it up.

1064
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: Then an agent's going to see you and go that

1065
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: person's got talent. I'm going to reach out to them

1066
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: and I'm going to find out if they need an agent,

1067
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: which has happened to me before from different things that

1068
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 3: I've done. So build a good crew and make sure

1069
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: you're having fun. The reason why you want to get

1070
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: into this business is because it's fun. It's a fun

1071
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 3: you're not digging ditches. Is just don't ever take yourself

1072
00:46:58,800 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: too seriously.

1073
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: One of my acting teachers says, like, you're in a play.

1074
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: Play. Yeah, we're here to play.

1075
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 3: That's the word. Yeah. I actually heard John Cleese say

1076
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: that in an interview.

1077
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's coming here to film a movie in Perth.

1078
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: Oh razy.

1079
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the Big Emy Wall, which literally happened with

1080
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: Monty Franklin and other rest.

1081
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1082
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 2: I had a feeling you two have similar energy.

1083
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. I met him, hung out with him in La

1084
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: I think I even trained with him a training mate.

1085
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 3: Did you have a train there in La?

1086
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: Friends there and a lot of ossis like if you

1087
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: ever need work, go work front desk of training mates

1088
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: be Australian.

1089
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, loved you.

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Speaker 3: What about your whole manifestation? Of this dream of being

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Speaker 3: a big star in LA and you know it's being

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00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 3: successful at acting. Like what what do you do? Anything

1093
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: do you do? Like meditate and have some crystals all

1094
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: around you and and like visualize yourself getting that Oscar award.

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Speaker 1: It's funny like I that would be used to be

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00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: my visualizer and get clear on like I'm now I'm

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00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: more about like make sure that I'm read. So I'm

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00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: always like stay in training, look after my health, look

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00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: after my mental health, whether that be for me. It's

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00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: like and I've heard you talk about this in the course,

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00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: like get out, exercise, move the body, and just I

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00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: just want to feel ready so that if that call,

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00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: when that call does come, you're like, yeah, of course

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00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: I can film myself like oh you need me in person, Yeah,

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00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm there tomorrow, Like I'm there this afternoon, whatever you need.

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00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: Like I want to stay ready so that when that happens,

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00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm not like not in the right headspace or not

1108
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: up with my American dialect or my British dialct, like

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00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: I'll always I'm always it's going to.

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Speaker 3: Come when you least expect it ready and just.

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00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: Keep working at it and keep like and like the

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Speaker 1: other thing like taking that minimum wage job in America.

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00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: You're around Americans, your dialect get so much better, like

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00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: and even just weird little words that you're like, oh

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00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: like and just little Americans saying like immediately no, Like

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00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: Americans just say oh literally immediately no, like all these

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00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: would we don't say that. And so you pick up

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00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: all this stuff so that if you have to do

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Speaker 1: a self tape that afternoon you've been working a five

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00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: hour shift, like your ear is already attuned to like

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Speaker 1: the pace, the intonation.

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Speaker 3: Do you speak in an American accent while you're working

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Speaker 3: at the yoga studio. I did practice.

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Speaker 1: I deter all my mates because we're all actors the

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00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: people that work there, right, And so my mates naturally

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00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: they'd be like, all right, we're going to try Australian

1127
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: for a while, you try Americas. But I also have

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Speaker 1: a really great aussy actor friend, and we go hiking

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00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: together in American dialect, because as soon as you exercise,

1130
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: it's so much harder to stay in an American dialect

1131
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: because you're losing your breath, you know. So like that

1132
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: was the thing that was really helpful. But I stay

1133
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: in touch with my dialect coach, And if you're in

1134
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: scene study, my advice would be, if you're in an

1135
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: American scene study class, go up in an American accent

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00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: other than improval comedy training because it's improv and you

1137
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: need to be in the moment. But everything else, I

1138
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: just go out with a full I had one teacher say,

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00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: anyone that's not got an American accent, you cannot call

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00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: home for the rest of this course. You cannot speak

1141
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: to anybody in an Australian accent, not speak to your

1142
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: animals and an Australia. Yeah, you have to, you have

1143
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: to live, breathe And all the classmates were told not

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00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: to speak to us if we dropped our American accents.

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00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: And my vocal coach, who I've worked with figures he

1146
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that's a bit far low, and he

1147
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: was like he think about it. He goes, as an actor,

1148
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: you need to be switched on, switched off, switched on.

1149
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: Is that's more important than just I agree?

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00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 3: I think that you know, that's a bit of a

1151
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: croc totally yeah, and that that is where the talent

1152
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: will shine through as well. The people who can switch

1153
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 3: it on and off for a long time. I would

1154
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Speaker 3: do auditions and yeah, I get my name's Mike Goldman.

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00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 3: You know, actually, actually I changed my name. This is

1156
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 3: something you might find interesting because obviously years of working

1157
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: on Reality TV is Mike Goldman. Millions of people know

1158
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 3: me from that crazy show. My agent said, listen, we

1159
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 3: can't even get you in an audition for any acting

1160
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Speaker 3: roles because I got Reality TV piss off, And so

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Speaker 3: we changed my name on IMDb and an on show

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00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: car said everything. You know, what's It's called actors Access

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00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: to Michael Aaron Goldman. And I literally booked three jobs

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Speaker 3: in a row after doing that. Say like, Michael Aaron

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00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: Goldman is that guy? Yes? Send us it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, genius, that's genius. Oh I love it and I

1167
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: can't wait to see your star continue to rise. My friend,

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Speaker 1: it's been a total honor having you on the post.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me in your beautiful

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00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: little studio on the on the beach. This is incredible,

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00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: love it.

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Speaker 2: What's the saying you're more than welcome?

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Speaker 3: Any good? Because I was just about a book on

1174
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 3: MBNB and so where's the fold out?

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Speaker 1: It's yours, It's yours. Thank you so much, your a legend.

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Speaker 3: Cheers lovely appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing.

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Speaker 2: As always, thank you to.

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Speaker 1: Our guests, and let's continue the conversation on Instagram. I'm

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