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Speaker 1: Now as we know, the NLC yesterday late yesterday issued

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Speaker 1: made comments that unresolved land claims are behind violence and

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Speaker 1: arson in the Naiau Daily River area. The NLC is

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Speaker 1: saying that those statements are unfounded and covering up the

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Speaker 1: government's own failures to keep territory and safe. Now joining

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Speaker 1: us on the line is the chair of the NLC,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Hey, Katy. How are you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Really good? Thanks so much for your time this morning, Mattie,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you coming on the show. Now, mate,

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Speaker 1: how is the situation in the Daily region at the

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Speaker 1: moment from your perspective?

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Speaker 2: Look, just by hearing from the community members, people are

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Speaker 2: still unhappy with the police response and that goes for

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Speaker 2: both communities. And know, Pappy and Damie, you know, just

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Speaker 2: being proactive I suppose into of engaging the community properly.

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Speaker 1: And I know some members of the community have spoken

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Speaker 1: to the NT News and said that they were really

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Speaker 1: happy with the local police officers out there at Daily.

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Speaker 1: I think it was, but Mattie, is more a situation

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Speaker 1: that the communities felt like like a greater police presence

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Speaker 1: was needed, and.

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Speaker 2: Then that's correct. There should be a greater police president,

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Speaker 2: which I attended on last Thursday meeting, and they need

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Speaker 2: to be regular patrols and regular engagement and a greater

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Speaker 2: presence within the community. As you said, how.

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Speaker 1: Are people out there in the community feeling at the moment,

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Speaker 1: both at Peppi and also at Daily River.

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Speaker 2: I suppose you know, I'm moving forward. I think the

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Speaker 2: community wants to find a solution to the problem and

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Speaker 2: work with the stakeholders in terms of the community safety level.

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Speaker 2: I think it's important that all members of the community

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Speaker 2: should be feeling safe, like dah or any of the

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Speaker 2: urban community of these At the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: it's about you know, feeling safe in your community.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how much damage has been caused out there to

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Speaker 2: Millions, millions And look again, you know, you know per

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Speaker 2: you know, six hours. Look if you add that together,

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Speaker 2: seven million dollars and we're not we're not aware the

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Speaker 2: money going to come from. Hopefully you know it's not

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Speaker 2: going to be from the four billion dollars from Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister announcement, but you know, I mean these other situations

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Speaker 2: we will call two step forward and three step backwards.

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Speaker 1: Maddie, What are elders in both communities sort of saying

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Speaker 1: to you guys saying to the NLC at the moment,

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Speaker 1: I'd imagine that they're you know, they're pretty upset about

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Speaker 1: what's going on.

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Speaker 2: That's correct. And again, as an NLC, we're on the

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Speaker 2: matter where they come from, and we have opened up policy.

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Speaker 2: We want to sit with the others and listen to

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Speaker 2: the people and as the land CANC, we want to

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Speaker 2: be neutral as possible and end of the day, it

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Speaker 2: should be the stakehole is driving in the leaders of

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Speaker 1: Currently now I know the Police Minister had said at

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Speaker 1: a press conference, what needs to happen is mediation. We

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Speaker 1: getting out there and talking to those communities that have

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Speaker 1: long standing disputes around land and title. He'd said, you

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Speaker 1: relates to title claims and the like, and we need

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Speaker 1: to address that and for too long it's been pushed

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Speaker 1: the minister's comments?

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Speaker 2: I think only irrelevant what he said and probably out

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Speaker 2: of touch to be honest, he hasn't been in the community.

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Speaker 2: I mean he hasn't visited the community as well where

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Speaker 2: we want to work with the community again and look,

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Speaker 2: we haven't heard any land district as we speak, as

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Speaker 2: far as we're concerned. You know, we want to work

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Speaker 1: And so from your perspective, has the NLC been at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Loguessa, I'm incoming chair, brand new one two months

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Speaker 2: And we're already on the table. Well, I went by

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Speaker 2: you the commitment that we have to work and with

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Speaker 2: the community of Dana Ruver, Oh, Pappy, any any other

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, So you weren't even invited to begin with,

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Speaker 2: No, No, I had to literally there was a word

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Speaker 2: I said the time a poort keats and then said, look,

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Speaker 2: can I come? I want to? As a jay, I

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Speaker 2: which I think is.

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Speaker 1: A good thing. You know, we need the NLC, you

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Speaker 1: need everybody at the table. You want everyone there. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we want to try and sort these issues out,

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Speaker 2: That's correct, and we want to be we want to

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Speaker 2: ensure and like I said to the meeting, community safety

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Speaker 2: is number one and we want everyone to be part

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Speaker 2: of the solution based community safety model. And yes there's

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Speaker 2: a community justice model, but you know need funding support

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Speaker 2: to to cater for that. We shouldn't be talking about it,

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Speaker 2: you know. I don't like the talk fast I want action.

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Speaker 2: I want commitment by all parties. Yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 2: moving forward, that's what the community wants at the moment.

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Speaker 2: I don't see that there's too many talk first, to

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Speaker 1: I think you know, like I get it that long

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Speaker 1: sort through long term issues. But right now it seems

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Speaker 2: And one would think, you know, I mean when you're

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Speaker 2: And again, we want to support the police, our police

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Speaker 1: Terms of the comments made by the Police Minister and

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you feel that they're responding adequately or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, basically trying to handbare And look, I think he's

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Speaker 2: We're not raiging and I said, mate, you need to

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Speaker 2: everyone else in the community. We're here to support each other,

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Speaker 2: not individual basis. As far as I'm concerned, we need

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Speaker 2: that will make change within the community, you know, and

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Speaker 2: you know that's what we can do. So made minister. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: From your perspective, you know, from today in the coming days,

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Speaker 1: what do you want to see happen so that things

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Speaker 2: Look, I think more effort, more committed effort by the

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Speaker 2: as well. And funding opportunity, you know, the support wreck

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Speaker 2: job's opportunity and that's been lacking for day one and

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Speaker 2: I've been in the local government factor for many, many years,

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Speaker 2: not being addressed adequately. And again these sort of stuff,

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Speaker 2: People want to go back to the homelands, you know.

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Speaker 2: And then again we need that funding, direct funding that

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Speaker 2: the community. We need to empower individuals in other stakeholders.

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Speaker 2: At the moment it's you know, my way, the highway

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Speaker 2: People can come see me and I don't care who

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Speaker 2: any sort of people I want to talk to.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you're prepared to work with everybody. If

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Speaker 1: it means sorting the issues out and getting things calm again.

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Speaker 2: Yep. And by doing that, I am and I want

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Speaker 2: the stakeholders to be working with us in collaboration. And

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Speaker 2: it's it's not one man situation or organization. Should I say,

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Speaker 2: it's all it's all party need to beginning. That's all

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Speaker 2: we're saying. We need to support each and every one

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Speaker 1: Well, Matthew Ryan, the NLLC chairman, I really appreciate your

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Speaker 1: time this morning. Always appreciate it when you join us

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Speaker 1: on the show, and we'll talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 2: Much appreciated.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Thanks Maddie,