1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: The future of recreational fishing in the territory is going 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: to be transformed with the eagerly anticipated Enhancing Recreational fisher 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Experience through Informed Decision Making Research project it's commenced. The 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: project does aim to elevate the management of fisheries resources 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: by incorporating invaluable fisher experience data. Now joining me on 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: the line to talk a little bit more about this 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: is David Girovolo, the CEO of afant Here in the 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Northern Territory. 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, David. 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, and good morning listeners. Thanks for having 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 3: us on this morning. 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Now we've spoken before about this study, haven't we. 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: But it's moving along or it's progressing. 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, first of I have to apologize for the 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: mouthful of a title that we've given you this morning 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: and say there's actually a bit more of a simple 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: matter at the heart of this than that complicated title 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: might suggest, and it is that we know when people 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: go fishing, the experiences that they have and the satisfaction 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 3: that they have from fishing can vary from trip to trip, 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: from day to day, and from fishery to fishery. And 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: what we want to be able to do is gain 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: insights by interviewing fishes at boat ramps and finding out 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 3: and testing the performance of those fisheries, and then looking 25 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: at how we can use that informal fisheries management procedures. 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: So talk us through what kind of data is going 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: to be gathered and how exactly it's going to be used. 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: Well, what's so exciting about this KDE is this is 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: being led by a company called Hudson House in conjunction 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: with a number of other experts both in research into people, 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: so social research and also fisheries research. So their methodology 32 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: and what they're bringing to the table is the ability 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: to use techniques that are used in other areas to 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: be able to interview and survey people about what's important 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: to them and how things are performed. I think you 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: could think of it in a little bit like a 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: customer satisfaction type scenario, although a bit more sophisticated than 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: that and tailored to fisheries. And then we also have 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: fisheries experts who will take that information, conduct a literature 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: review on all the studies that have been done on 41 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: how fisher satisfaction is impacted, and then we look at 42 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: how do we fit that into harvest strategies and harvest 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: strategies are the documents that fisheries managers used to guide 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: the management of fishery. So it is an innovative and 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: complicated process, but that's why we've assembled a really unique 46 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: and broad team to try to pull this off. 47 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: So talk us through who's on that team. 48 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: So I've got some excellent partners. I've said it's led 49 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: by Hudson Howes, and we also have a fan of 50 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: course and the NTGFAA which is the Guided Fishing Industry Association. 51 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: I've also got Fisheries n T. It's of course really 52 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 3: important to make sure the fisheries managers are on board 53 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: action research and powerstats with some of those social and 54 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: data experts. And then fish Well Consulting, which is Ian 55 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: Nucky's and a bit of a guru when it comes 56 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: to fisheries management in Australia and innovating that. So there 57 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: is a really broad team. It's important that we've got 58 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: all the different skills at the table. But I think 59 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: what's really exciting about this project is it kicks off 60 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 3: now and there'll be some meetings that a course will 61 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: involve the project team. But once that methodology gets established 62 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: and we're going to be having some focus group meetings 63 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: in Darwin that will then turn into boat ramp creole 64 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: surveys and that's where fishes themselves will be able to 65 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: really inform the direction of this research. 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: And how long do you anticipate that the research is 67 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: going to run? 68 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: For Look, it's an eighteen month project at this stage, 69 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: and I have to say I've been involved in a 70 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: lot of different research projects, but this team is really 71 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: cracking on, so I anticipated it will be an eighteen 72 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: month study. And one of the reasons that we want 73 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: to do that over eighteen months is because we are 74 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: interested in using the Barrel Mundy fishery as a case study. 75 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: It's Australia's premiere recreational fishery and we've got a lot 76 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 3: of areas that are essentially recreational and traditional fishing only. 77 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: So it's really important that the management and the rules 78 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: and the settings that we have in those places are 79 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: optimized because at the end of the day, this is 80 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: Australia's fisheries resourced and when we're managing it for recreational fishing, 81 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: we have to make sure that we're doing as best 82 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 3: we can. So spreading it over eighteen months means that 83 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: we get to survey in the build up and also 84 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: survey hopefully in a really good runoff next year as well, 85 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 3: and also get some insights from those two different times 86 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: of year. 87 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: David, if there are reckfishers listening, or if there are 88 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: people that are in the industry listening and they're thinking, oh, 89 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: I do want to have some input, is there a 90 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: way that they can do that. 91 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: Look, we'll always encourage people to get in contact with us, 92 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: so people can contact us through the APANT website or 93 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: through our Facebook age. But the way that this is 94 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: being run in order to make sure that there is 95 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: a robust scientific process is that there's a lot of 96 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: randomization that'll be built into it. So if you see 97 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: people at the boat ramps and they want to have 98 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: a chat with you, and we'll get in touch with 99 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 3: you a little bit closer the time that that's actually 100 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: happening and give people a heads up, then please do 101 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: engage with those We engage with those people and share 102 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 3: your experiences because we've been hearing for years and years 103 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: and this is something that recreational fishes and leaders in 104 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: our industry have been wanting to do for years and 105 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: there's some great stuff happening in this space, but it 106 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: definitely hasn't fully matured, and so it is a pioneering 107 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: project in that regard that we do want to see 108 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: if we can turn it into a measure that we 109 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: can put into a future harvest strategy. The Barrel Munday 110 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: fishery is being reviewed currently, so the timing is really good. 111 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: And yeah, I just encourage people to keep an eye 112 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: out for people at boat rams. We always encourage fishes 113 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: to participate in those boat round surveys, whether it's about 114 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: your catch or your experience and satisfaction. It's the best 115 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: way to make sure that your fishing counts and you 116 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: contribute to data. Yeah. 117 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely well. 118 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: David Girovolo, the CEO of a FAN always good to 119 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: catch up with. 120 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: You have a great weekend. 121 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: Yes, thanks Katie, And I must just say it's funded 122 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: by the Fisheries Research Development Corporation. They'll definitely want me 123 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: to mention that and we're very grateful to have the funding. 124 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: Thank you. 125 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: Good on you, David, Thank you well. You appreciate your time.