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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This podcast is

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Speaker 1: for women who want to take ownership of their lives,

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Speaker 1: live unapologetically, and are ready to turn their biggest dreams

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Speaker 1: into their reality. If you're ready to be armed with

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Speaker 1: the tools that will inspire to take bold action, feel

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Speaker 1: confident within yourself, and conquer your goals, then you've come

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Speaker 1: to the right place. I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. I'm

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Speaker 1: a lawyer turned entrepreneur, co founder of Naked Harvest Supplements,

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Speaker 1: and social media personality with a community of over three

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand. I grew up believing I had to pursue

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Speaker 1: this safe option and fit into a mold others had

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Speaker 1: job and I realized that settling for a reality that

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Speaker 2: Was not prepared to do.

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Speaker 1: I want to more, and I have a feeling you

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Speaker 1: do too. Join me and special guests weekly as we

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Speaker 1: get down to the nitty gritty on all things health,

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Speaker 1: mastering your mindset, creating lasting habits, thriving in your career

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Speaker 1: and relationships, plus so much more, and together we'll gain

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Speaker 1: the knowledge and perspective to pursue our wildest dreams and

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Speaker 2: Well, what are you waiting for? Let's Rise and Conquer.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome to another episode of the Rise

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Speaker 2: I am so.

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Speaker 1: Excited to share today's guest, Emily Sky. I sat down

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Speaker 1: with Emily Sky and she is amazing. Guys, I am

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Speaker 1: so excited to share this. Not only was she announced

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Speaker 1: She says so much relatable details about her health, the

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Speaker 1: reality of postpartum, and just so much more. In our conversation,

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Speaker 1: we got down to how building her health and fitness

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Speaker 1: about her post parti and recovery, as well as all

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Speaker 1: expiring woman and I hope you love this conversation as

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Speaker 1: much as I did. Let's get into it. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of the Rise and Conquer Podcast.

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Speaker 1: So today I've got a very special guess, someone who

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Speaker 1: was so inspiring to me when I first started my

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Speaker 2: So it's a bit surreal to be here with you.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Emily, Thank you, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: We've actually just been sitting here for the last what

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes, just in deep conversation, like I've fully connected it.

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Speaker 2: She's amazing, this girl. Oh thank you. I know, and

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Speaker 2: I was like, can we turn off? Can we turn

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Speaker 2: I was thinking of that too before we get into

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Speaker 1: I was just saying to Emily how much when I

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Speaker 2: So we're going to get into that.

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Speaker 1: But the first question that I asked all my guests

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Speaker 1: I asked this is because I'm really big on honoring

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Speaker 2: So what sort of season are you in? Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: in order to make changes with yourself, the first thing

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Speaker 1: We're so funny this whole time, Me and Emily have

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Speaker 2: Because I did that the other week.

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Speaker 2: It really does make a difference. I'm always telling my

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Speaker 1: But it's like your area, like, yeah, you make it nice.

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Speaker 2: if that's the right. Anything's right right exactly?

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Speaker 1: And so can you tell us a bit of a

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm still trying to work that out, aren't we all.

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Speaker 2: I'm always like I literally ask myself all the time,

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Speaker 2: I grew up extremely depressed, extremely anxious, no self worth,

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Speaker 2: And there's of course people who are supportive, and I

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Speaker 2: I'd tried to take my life when I was a teenager,

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Speaker 2: I had abusive boyfriends. I was just it was a mess.

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Speaker 2: And it was this obsessive and but I did have

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how many is it eleven people?

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Speaker 1: What you surround yourself with is like your average Yeah,

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Speaker 1: children or anything like that. Like it wasn't like I

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Speaker 1: was going through it, but I still resonated with it

435
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 1: so much. And I thought of how powerful that was

436
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: because before that, all I saw about postpartram was people

437
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 1: doing the before and afters and like how good they look.

438
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: And I literally thought the bounce back was like a

439
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 1: truthing and you just like did and it like that's

440
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 1: how you looked, and so that was like the most

441
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: refreshing thing, and so can you kind of explain why

442
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 1: that was so important for you to show and your

443
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 1: experience with that.

444
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 2: Well, one thing is obviously I like to show the

445
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 2: journey there. I don't like the idea of showing the

446
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 2: before and then after and nothing in between. So people

447
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 2: get this idea that it does just happen overnight, and

448
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 2: they don't see the hard work and the day to

449
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 2: day hard work that you have to put in, and

450
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 2: it's a struggle. So I thought, I'm going to be real.

451
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 2: I made that decision when I was pregnant with Mia,

452
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: and I thought, I'm going to get so out of

453
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: breathing pregnant deep breath them. I thought, I'm going to

454
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to show people how it truly is. And

455
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: I think it's important because I didn't know what was

456
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 2: going to happen, and I didn't want to have any expectations.

457
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 2: I didn't want to put any sort of pressure on

458
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: myself to bounce back, but I sort of thought I

459
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 2: would because I'd been so fit and healthy for so

460
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 2: many years before, and I was fairly active throughout the pregnancy.

461
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 2: Although I did gain a lot of weight around twenty

462
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: five kilos, but I thought, no, I can do this

463
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 2: as soon as I have the baby drop off and breastfeeding.

464
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 2: They say breastfeeding makes you lose weight fast, which is bullshit,

465
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 2: by the way, and actually your body hold onto fat.

466
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: So it was a lot harder. But no, I didn't

467
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: bounce back. So I sort of just went with it,

468
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: and I thought, whatever happens, I'm going to be true

469
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: and be honest about it and post it. And I'd

470
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 2: never seen it, just like you were saying, like, I've

471
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: never seen it done before. I'm sure people have out there.

472
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: It's probably just not, you know, not as what's the

473
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: word prevalent? Is that a word? Yeah, well, no one

474
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 2: showed it. Yeah, yeah, so I did. And there was

475
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Speaker 2: one post that I put up which I think you're

476
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: referring to, which was in my postpartum undies, the granny

477
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 2: undies I call them. And because like no clothes would

478
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 2: fit me, I was wearing decks my partner's clothes back

479
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 2: in that time. I'm doing that now actually not right

480
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 2: at this moment. He doesn't wear this sort of clothes.

481
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: Huge jumping. Yeah, anyway, So I still I think it

482
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 2: was about five days a half to have giving birth.

483
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: I still had the big belly and it was saggy,

484
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: and I was holding my newborn and my hair was

485
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: a mess. And I'll just like not even sleeping. I

486
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: was struggling. I had baby blues. It was a lot.

487
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: I didn't expect any of that. I didn't know. You

488
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: just don't know. People like, oh, yeah, you get baby blues.

489
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: And I was like, what, No, I really want a baby, Like,

490
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,719
Speaker 2: there's no way I'm going to get baby blues. And

491
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: I got it because your hormones go no, we're gonna

492
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: overwrite your feelings. We're gonna we're gonna take control now.

493
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, so it happened, and I was honest about

494
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: all of that. I put up every single workout I

495
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: did in my story. I was showing like how hard

496
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: it was. I couldn't even do one knee push up.

497
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: It was a struggle. I rolled my ankle two months

498
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: after giving birth trying to run on the treadmill. It

499
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: was a nightmare. And I had actually Chobe cut Ashing

500
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 2: reached out for me to do a campaign with her

501
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: for her Good American business. Oh yeah, and I was like,

502
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: oh my god, I just had a baby. What am

503
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 2: I going to do? So I was really like I

504
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: wanted to get in shape, and people say, did you

505
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 2: put pressure on yourself? And I guess I did to

506
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 2: an extent. I didn't want to put that pressure on,

507
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: but I felt like I had deadline, you know, I

508
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: had this timeline where I sort of did have to

509
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: be in some sort of shape because for myself, more

510
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: than anything, I wanted to feel confident. And it's something

511
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: that it's hard. It is hard to do because I

512
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 2: can't sit here and be like, oh, I felt confident

513
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 2: the whole time, and I love the way I looked,

514
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: because no, that's not the truth. I had times where

515
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: I looked in the mirror and I was like, I

516
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: don't recognize myself right now. I think that's what I

517
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: wrote in that particular post with the anddies on where

518
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: I looked in the mirror, I was like, who is

519
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,239
Speaker 2: this person? Like I don't recognize anything about this and

520
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: my whole life is different. And I'm sure a lot

521
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: of people who have had babies totally get what I'm

522
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 2: talking about. So yeah, that was the reason why I

523
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: wanted to show it, and I wanted people to realize

524
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: that Eddie's hard work too, and snapping back might be

525
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: real for some people, and it happens for some people,

526
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: but you can't compare. And I've always been about this,

527
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: You cannot compare to other people. You're on your own

528
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 2: journey and you've got to stay focused on that and

529
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 2: not get distracted because it'll make you feel shitty and

530
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: you'll feel like a failure. And I even did it,

531
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 2: I know better. I was looking at people or scrolling

532
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 2: through Instagram, going, oh, this girl has had twins and

533
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 2: she looks like a and I'm still this much like

534
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: fifty kilos heavier or something, and I thought, don't do this,

535
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: am you know better? Don't do it like you've got to.

536
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: You got to practice what you preach.

537
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what advice would you have for someone who

538
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,479
Speaker 1: is currently a postpartrum and they are feeling pressures on

539
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: social media to you know, invert a comments bounce back?

540
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 2: Like, what advice would you have for that person? Be

541
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: responsible with who you choose to what content you choose

542
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: to consume. So don't follow people that make you feel crappy,

543
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 2: and it's nothing personal. It doesn't mean that that person

544
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 2: is a bad person. And you go through phases too,

545
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: where some people you get something from and then other

546
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: times where you go, oh, yeah, I don't really need

547
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 2: this now. They're not really helping, or there's some sort

548
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: of negative feeling I'm getting here. That's it's fine to actually, yeah,

549
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: it's fine to go, yeah, I don't need this now.

550
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: So you have to take responsibility. And I say this

551
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: to even young kids because I think it's that's the

552
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: whole other topic, but young kids on social media, you

553
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: just you've got to be responsible, and I think they

554
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: need to be taught responsibility and to make sure that

555
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: you're aware of what you're consuming and the feelings that

556
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: you get from certain things. So don't follow the people

557
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: that make you feel like that, don't go looking for it,

558
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: because if you're looking for the algorithm, how it works

559
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: is if you're looking for a particular thing, show up,

560
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: it'll keep showing you that, and that's the unfortunate thing.

561
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: Can be good, but it's bad too. But also you've

562
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 2: gotta be conscious of how you're feeling and seeing on

563
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: top of it, like self aware, yeah, self aware, but

564
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: also not getting lost, like not getting taken down the hole,

565
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So not seeing something and

566
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: then it's triggering you or you're going yeah, and because

567
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: i'd go, I'm not why don't I look like this?

568
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: And you do the comparison thing, and that's the worst

569
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 2: thing you can do. It really is the thief of joy. Comparison.

570
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 2: It's horrible. So you've got to go, no, remember I'm

571
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: making this commitment. I'm not going to do this to myself.

572
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: And then get off there and then practice you know,

573
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: your self love, which is so hard to in itself. Yeah,

574
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: that's easier said than done. Interupid.

575
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Speaker 1: I was just thinking also like remembering and we know

576
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: so I love seasons, but like remembering that you're not

577
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: in a season no how you look as a pary

578
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: like exactly obviously having a baby and looking after a

579
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: baby as a party and realize that that's the season you're.

580
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 2: In and honoring that. Yeah, and we're all different, we're

581
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: all at different times or our journeys are different, where

582
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: our goals are different. And even I was comparing to

583
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 2: other people that seem to have it all together after

584
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 2: having babies. I had a friend of mine who had

585
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: twins and she's amazing. She twins two months before I did,

586
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: and she was like she had them in this routine,

587
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: like this amazing routine. They were sleeping and it was tough,

588
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: like she went through a lot like I can't imagine.

589
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: And I kept thinking, and I was doing the comparison

590
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: She's got two and I've got one, and I'm struggling. I'mpathetic,

591
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: like i'd keep you know that bitch, the inner bitch

592
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: voice we keep coming up saying like you're not you're

593
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: not cut out for this. I kept that was the

594
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: one thing I kept going back to, you're not cut

595
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: out to be a mother, like, well, how did you

596
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: who did you think you are? Like to think that

597
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: you could do this? And I had to shut that

598
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: voice down work because I know now that I am

599
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: a great mother, But it's just that time at the

600
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: start where your hormones are all over the place, you

601
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: sleep deprived, and you really don't feel like you can

602
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: do it. You think this is forever and I've made

603
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 2: a mistake. That's what I thought. I loved my baby,

604
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: but oh my god, I thought this is a mistake.

605
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, comparing to not just the physical things, but

606
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: the lifestyle and things like that too, and realizing that

607
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: online it's such a fake world and people have posting

608
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: their highlights. We all know this, but yet we get

609
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: caught down the rabbit hole, like we get stuck there

610
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: and it eats us up.

611
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 1: There making sure and being being very like strong and

612
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: like you said, like continuing to do it, realizing that

613
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: one day you might be all good and then next

614
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: you might be a mess.

615
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: But you've got it, like almost got usta on top

616
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: of the top of it. Yeah, or you'll get suck

617
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: back in again. Amazing.

618
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for sharing that. Something I did want

619
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: to ask you is do you think since having Mia

620
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: your body image has changed, like how you perceive your

621
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: body so much, how you perceive health and fitness.

622
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I still have times where I feel

623
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: where I don't feel as confident. I'm human, I'm like

624
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: every other woman on the planet, and I'll look in

625
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: the mirror sometimes and be like, oh, you know, I'm

626
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: a holy bit of fat hereba cellult. But I'm so

627
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: much easier myself because I see it more like it

628
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: is what it is. It's no big deal and it's

629
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: not my priority, and I do prioritize that, and I

630
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: have to keep reminding myself of that. Yeah. So when

631
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: I was about nine months postpartum, I think I flew

632
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: over to the UK and I shot the cover of

633
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: Women's Health magazine I'd just done before. Actually when I

634
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: was pregnant with me I was only like seven weeks

635
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: or something. I did the US cover and they syndicated

636
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: it across a lot of different countries, like sixty countries

637
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: or something like that, so then they did the UK

638
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: as a separate sort of one, so they did their

639
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: own one, So I went over for that, and I

640
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: was training pretty hard in the lead up. I never

641
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: want to go too crazy, and I sort of stuck

642
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: to this for years now. Any cover that I did,

643
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: I never wanted to change too much what I was

644
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: doing because I didn't want it to be unrealistic people.

645
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: I never wanted women to look and go I want

646
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: to be like that when that's temporary. It's not like

647
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: just because of my good life style, you know what

648
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Speaker 2: I mean, Not because of my healthy life style. So

649
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: I wanted to stay still in line with that. But

650
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Speaker 2: I had had a baby and it wasn't that long ago,

651
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Speaker 2: and I didn't snap back, so I wasn't back to

652
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: my Not that I wanted to be my pre baby body,

653
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: but something kind of similar fitness wise. You wanted to

654
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: feel and I wanted to look good.

655
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

656
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Speaker 2: I was going on a cover of my favorite magazine

657
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Speaker 2: and I wanted to look good. And there's nothing wrong

658
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: with that, right, Yeah. So I did train pretty hard

659
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: for it, and I did clean up my diet a

660
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: little bit. I made little changes, nothing like a competition diet.

661
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: I never eliminated food groups or anything like that. I

662
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: still had my treat nucle them treats, not cheats, because

663
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Speaker 2: I'd like to treat myself all the time. But I

664
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: still had things like that. But it was it was

665
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: very balanced, but just a little bit cleaner. I don't

666
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: know how else to put it. Yeah, you were so unconscious.

667
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah so yeah, and that's fine. You can go up

668
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: and down in life too, and there can be smaller

669
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: goals like that that you are long term and you're

670
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: not going to maintain, and that's fine as long as

671
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: you're aware of that. So anyway, went over there, I

672
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: didn't know. I thought I looked all right and I

673
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: felt good, but I wasn't. I didn't know. Like I

674
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 2: always in the past, was always thinking I'm not good enough.

675
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: It's always my thing. I was just talking to you

676
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: about it before. I always feel like I'm not worthy

677
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: or not good enough all the time, so much better

678
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: than I used to be, but I'm still struggling with it.

679
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: So there's that thing of, oh, you're not good enough

680
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: to be on this magazine, like the stupid thoughts that

681
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: you get in your head. I was like, no, you are,

682
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: you can do this, you know. I try to overpower it.

683
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: So anyway, I get into hair and makeup, I'm getting,

684
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: you know, getting glammed up and getting into my first outfits,

685
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: and I still don't know how I look. I haven't

686
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: even looked in the mirror in the outfit, so you

687
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: don't know whether you're looking like do I look fit

688
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: enough to be on the cover of this magazine? Or

689
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: there's always that not enough thing. It's just stupid. So anyway,

690
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: I go through those things too. And then I did

691
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: my first sort of sequence of shots in my first

692
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: outfit and I sam my manager was there, and he

693
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: was like at the have this big computer screen where

694
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: they look at the photos, and he was like, oh,

695
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: like you know, give me like this basically the thumbs up,

696
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: like you're looking good. And I'm like, yeah, but he

697
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: does that all the time even if I look shit,

698
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: So I don't trust him. So anyway, go and have

699
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: a look. And then I go to saym oh, I

700
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: look good, and I was like, I've got abs, and

701
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: abs like it's not a goal of mine. It's nice

702
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: to have. Yet I don't get abs easily. But I

703
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: actually did have some visible abs, and I was like,

704
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: I look good. And it was the first time in

705
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: my life I'd ever looked at a photo of myself

706
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: and said I looked good. And I thought, it's sad,

707
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: but it's also an amazing thing as well, you know,

708
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 2: to finally come to a place where I could look

709
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: at myself and go, you look good. And I think

710
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: it's because I changed my perspective and the way I

711
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: look at myself and feel about myself, my priorities after

712
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Speaker 2: having a baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, you were so much more like

714
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Speaker 1: leaning on yourself.

715
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Speaker 2: That's crazy, and I didn't care, like I rather than

716
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: looking at the stupid things like oh, i've got celly

717
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: out of my bart, I got stretchmarks or whatever, you can

718
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: always pick something. There's always something to pick. We've all

719
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: got them. We've all got what you call flaws. I

720
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: don't like to say their flaws, but we've all got

721
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: those things, you know. And I looked at my self

722
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: as a whole. I went, nah, you look good and

723
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: you've worked hard for this, and I was proud of myself.

724
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: That was a really good feeling. So yes, the longer,

725
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: that was a long answer to your question. Definitely, it's

726
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: changed the way I feel about myself.

727
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Speaker 1: That's really good and you should be really proud of

728
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Speaker 1: that change too.

729
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh it's an accomplishment. Yeah. Yeah. People ask me

730
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: all the time what's my biggest achievement, and of course

731
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Speaker 2: having my baby and hopefully my next one as well.

732
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he's in the oven, but they're like,

733
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Speaker 2: it's their different sort of achievements. But my biggest is

734
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: my personal growth and learning to love myself. Yeah, and

735
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Speaker 2: people always start, you know, ceasy said than done, and

736
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Speaker 2: how do you do that? It's it is such a process,

737
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Speaker 2: like it really is. It doesn't just happen overnight. You've

738
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Speaker 2: got to work at it.

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Speaker 1: let's get straight back into the episode talking about that

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Speaker 1: your process of because we keep saying off air too

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Speaker 1: because we're chatting so much. But EMM was talking about

772
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Speaker 1: she did when she was younger, had such this core

773
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: belief that she was in her laugh wasn't enough and

774
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: had really low self worth And like you said, you

775
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: have gone so better, so much better, but it still

776
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Speaker 1: does rock you to your day. So do you have

777
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Speaker 1: any tools or anything you use when that kind of

778
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 1: rears its head?

779
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know if they like, there's no

780
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Speaker 2: right way. It's different for everyone, of course, having people

781
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: around you that re reassure you and know I know,

782
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 2: like I'm not talking about validation from people you don't know,

783
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Speaker 2: randoms On, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about

784
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Speaker 2: the people who truly love you and care about either

785
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Speaker 2: close people like your partner or your mum, your sister,

786
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: people like that. But you've got to be your what's

787
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: the saying out for yourself? Is that the same I'm

788
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: trying to think of you've got to be your own cheerleader. Yes,

789
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: but you really have to. And the way I do that,

790
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: because it's very hard, and I know people struggle with

791
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: it because I have for many years about self love.

792
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: But I always go back to I look at myself

793
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Speaker 2: as a little girl, and I think of myself in

794
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Speaker 2: that way, and I think of myself as if I

795
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Speaker 2: was my daughter, and what I show her and the

796
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Speaker 2: way I treat her and how I think of her

797
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Speaker 2: and things I tell her, like when she's older and

798
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Speaker 2: struggling with things, what I would say to her, And

799
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Speaker 2: that's how I treat myself. And it changes, It changes

800
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 2: the whole way you think about it, because I always

801
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: have this. If it's just the way I used to be.

802
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: I have not a very good healthy relationship with myself,

803
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: and I'm always my own worst enemy, and I'm always

804
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: bringing myself down and self deprecating, self doubt, yeah, all

805
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: those things. But if I look at myself as that

806
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: little girl, that innocent little girl, I feel like then

807
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: I can show love and show all the things that

808
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: we need. And we all have that little girl, yeah,

809
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: or that little boy in us. We all have that. Yeah.

810
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: So I think it's just different. So I don't know,

811
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Speaker 2: that's the way I do it. And then I love that.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like if you wouldn't say that to

813
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Speaker 1: that little person, why are you saying it to yourself?

814
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're in there.

815
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Speaker 1: Yeah that in a child.

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Speaker 2: In a child, I'm immature of it. You're a google. Yes, No,

817
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Speaker 2: I love it, but it does help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so do you have any other tools? Do

819
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: you have kind of a mental health routine or anything

820
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: that you do for that.

821
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Speaker 2: When I'm active, I do feel so much better mentally.

822
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Speaker 2: It's like the biggest, the biggest reason why I work out.

823
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: It's not to look a certain way. Well, that's that's

824
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Speaker 2: a good thing too, I won't lie, but it is

825
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: because of how it makes me feel mentally. And I

826
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Speaker 2: do start going a bit crazy and I get I

827
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Speaker 2: start getting those negative thoughts and kind of anxious and

828
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Speaker 2: I can't sit still, like something's not right. And then

829
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Speaker 2: when I train, it sort of settles everything down. It's

830
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Speaker 2: like my way, it's my meditation, my way of sort

831
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Speaker 2: of dealing with the exact same and getting that stable

832
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Speaker 2: kind of feeling.

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Speaker 1: And don't you feel like it's almost when I'm working out,

834
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Speaker 1: I'm getting out of my head, yes, because you can't

835
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Speaker 1: concentrate on like what the voice is saying. So getting

836
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Speaker 1: out of your head into your body and then like

837
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Speaker 1: all the hormones sort of kicking and doorphins, the dolphins

838
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Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff, and it completely changes

839
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Speaker 1: your mood.

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Speaker 2: And you really do feel so much better.

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Speaker 1: It's funny to think that, And you know, physical movement

842
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: is a mind shift that really you shift out a

843
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: certain mindset. And it's hard though, because for instance, like

844
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Speaker 1: what do you do when you don't want to work out,

845
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Speaker 1: like you know it's just most of the time, or

846
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Speaker 1: do you kind of you.

847
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: Go into robot mode? This is what I do anyway,

848
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: Like I haven't been doing it recently, to be honest

849
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 2: with you. I've been traveling and I've been feeling yucky,

850
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 2: and I don't really feel that good right now. I'm

851
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: feeling a bit run down and sick. So I'm listening

852
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: to my But usually I try to talk myself out

853
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: of it and like, oh, you can do it tomorrow,

854
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Speaker 2: or it's no point doing today, I don't feel that

855
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: great or whatever. There's always excuses, and then I just

856
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: stop thinking about all that. I stop making excuses, I stop,

857
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: get out of my head. I try to get out

858
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Speaker 2: before I get to the gym. The five second rule

859
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: almost yeah, and then just action, I just take action

860
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Speaker 2: rather than thinking about things. And I I go, well,

861
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Speaker 2: if I just put my gym gear on and I

862
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: put my shoes on it, and then I might you know,

863
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 2: one steps, one step there.

864
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: I almost I like do that? Who I bargain with myself?

865
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: And I'm like, if I put my gym gear on

866
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: and I get there and I don't really feel like

867
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: I can leave.

868
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 2: But like you never do. If I put my gym

869
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: gear on, that's enough, isn't it. I thought about it

870
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: to call the counts exactly no, And then you just

871
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: you know how good you feel later. And usually most

872
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: of the time, unless you roll the angle like I

873
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: did last year, you don't regret a workout. You feel

874
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: so good. So I remember that. And it's hard to

875
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: do when you haven't done it before because you don't

876
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: know how good you can feel. And it's also hard

877
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 2: to do when you're not getting results and you feel

878
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: like you're putting all this effort in and you're getting nowhere.

879
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: That's the hardest. But it's always just before that moment

880
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: where you feel like giving up, that's just when you

881
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: start to get those changes so you can just push through.

882
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: It's like that you know that acts things. You know,

883
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: the thing where the little creatures digging the hole in

884
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: the in the in the mud like this cartoon. I

885
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: am crazy there this cartoon and they're like chipping away

886
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: like mining or something. Okay, yeah, yeah, and there's like

887
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: gold on the other side, and they give up right

888
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: before getting through. Yes, of course you've just got through.

889
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: You're just going to push through. But and then once

890
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 2: you know how it feels, and once you see results,

891
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: that motivates you, so you go back there. And I

892
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: had to go into that really hard after having me

893
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: because I did not feel like training. It was the

894
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: last thing I wanted to do. But I knew i'd

895
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: feel so much better, and I knew that I would

896
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: be a better mother to me and a better person

897
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: to everyone. But I also knew for me that it

898
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: would be good. And there's nothing wrong and nothing selfish

899
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: about that. No, And I love what you said.

900
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: It's almost kind of like you know it's good for you,

901
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: and you almost need to get that momentum. Yes, it

902
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: does get easier it's like I just need to start.

903
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: Is it a Dumbo where it's a train going up

904
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: the hill? And have you seen Dumbo? You're too young? Dumbo?

905
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: I think I can. I think I can. I think

906
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: I can. The train's like going up the hill, like

907
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: nearly giving up. That's really hard, but you keep going

908
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: and then before you know, you reach the top and

909
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: then you can fly down. Love it. You obviously have children. Well, no,

910
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: I'm just old and I was around when those cartoons

911
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: came out. Seem like the new Dumbo. That doesn't count. Yeah,

912
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: sorry about that now, I'm sure it's on.

913
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: There, So tell us about Do you have a morning routine?

914
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: It's all over the place at the moment, seriously, And

915
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: it's one of the things I'm trying to work on

916
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 2: is to have more of a routine because I think

917
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: it is so much better. I function better when I

918
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: do have routine, so does so to kids. That's why

919
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: kids have routine for a reason, because they love it

920
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: and they thrive, and I think we do as well.

921
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: And I've always sort of been against it because I

922
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: thought that, no, no, I'm not that sort of perty

923
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: like free, and I don't sleep at night and I'm

924
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 2: awake on a night out, and I'm this and that.

925
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: But that's just some beliefs the system that I've sort

926
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: of set up in my head. I sort of had

927
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: to disconnect from that and go, No, I think a

928
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: little bit of routine is probably a good thing for me.

929
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: So that's where I'm at too, And I guess it

930
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: can fall into the season that I'm in as well,

931
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: so decluttering and then creating some sort of healthier routine,

932
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: so there's still flexibility.

933
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, freedom, But like, what is an ideal morning, Like

934
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: if you could.

935
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: Wake up, get out of bedding. Yeah, so a perfect morning,

936
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: which I haven't started doing yet because it's been raining

937
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: since I got home from I was in New York

938
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: just recently. But when I was over there, I was like,

939
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: I need to get this routine going again. Where my

940
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: partner and I used to go for walks along the beach.

941
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: It's different now we have a kid, so she won't

942
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: want to come, but we'll figure out a way of. Yeah,

943
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: getting up, I'd get my tea, have my tea down

944
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: at the beach or a coffee and walk along. But

945
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: I tried to have like a herbal tea because it's

946
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 2: better for you. Yeah, and walk along the beach and

947
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: it's our moment together. This is what we used to

948
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: do before having a kid, and we'd be able to

949
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: talk to each other. And I wouldn't even take my phone.

950
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't there to take photos and videos and look

951
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: at me. Everyone. Nothing wrong with that, but I just

952
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: wanted that time away because I lived so much time

953
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: online too, yes, disconnecting from social media, connecting with him.

954
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: So I want to get back into something like that,

955
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: and we need to make it happen somehow. But where

956
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: there's a will, there's a way, And whether she's just

957
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: got to be carried on one of those carriers or

958
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: something like that, I think it's important just to get

959
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: out there for a few reasons. Obviously, get fresh air

960
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: using your body so moving connecting the ocean air is amazing.

961
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: And also being barefoot. I love being barefoot, and I

962
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: call it around grounding, and I call it earthing or something.

963
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what. I call it, make my own

964
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: thing up, but I love. I sort of visualize all

965
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: the negativity and the energy coming out and then I

966
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: recharged with the earth and all the positive stuff, and

967
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 2: I really do feel good. And if you can go

968
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: in the ocean too. You get it too if you

969
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: like enough live near the ocean, which.

970
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: I live quite close to the beach, and yeah, beachwalks

971
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: for me has been such a game changer, just like

972
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: taking your shoes off, getting your feet in the sand,

973
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: clearing your mind.

974
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, so you start the day fresh and decluttered

975
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: and motivated to take it.

976
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: Up, starting the day like not in reaction. I find

977
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: if I start the day and I get straight on

978
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: my phone and I go into my emails and so away,

979
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm like in this reaction, but I've got to do this,

980
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: I've got to do that. Oh my god, this person

981
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: has this problem and.

982
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: This issue and you're overwhelming.

983
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're starting the day on the worst foot.

984
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 2: It's so is it's like getting out of the bed

985
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: on the wrong side or something I say, and like

986
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: making an effort forchering them. So I'm the worst for it,

987
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: but I know what I'm trying to say anyway, But yeah,

988
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: I totally get it. And sometimes I still like every

989
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: now and then I break it and I'll check it,

990
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: but I always know that I don't feel that great

991
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: and I'm always in a worse mood it Today I

992
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: woke up and I grabbed my phone and then I

993
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: was bombarded by stuff and I was like all the

994
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: dms and everything and just emails like it's just too much.

995
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 2: And I know people go, but I've got to do that. Okay,

996
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 2: Well you got to make limitations then, like you've got

997
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 2: to have those boundaries and not dive right into it

998
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: and have it all dumped on. You do something that's

999
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: starting the day, like not in a nicety, whether it's

1000
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: meditating or you're doing stretches or yoga or something, even

1001
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 2: if it's just for ten minutes, ten minutes, it's not

1002
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: three hours. Yeah. So that's that's what my routine. That's

1003
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: what I want it to be. But at the moment,

1004
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: it's funny because I'm in a bit of a jet

1005
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: lag situation where I'm waking up at like four am

1006
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: and stuff. It's like, we'll be kind to yourself. Yeah,

1007
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: let me know how pregnancy is like pretty crazy too.

1008
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: I get insomnia and all that stuff. But yeah, so

1009
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: that's going to that will be my new routine.

1010
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: Amazing, Well, let's switch gears and let's talk about you

1011
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: in business. Because I was also saying to m I fair,

1012
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: I was doing my research for this pod, and guys,

1013
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: she is like a girl boss.

1014
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: And she don't know about that. But thank you, No,

1015
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: you are.

1016
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: You've done some epic things and you have so much

1017
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: going on.

1018
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 2: God, I don't know how you do it all.

1019
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: But let's talk about firstly, James Cosmetics. So you started

1020
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: this back in twenty seventeen.

1021
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: I think it was then time I like, yeah, I

1022
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: always have to go Okay, I was pregnant, man, and

1023
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 2: like that when I met my partner, Like I always

1024
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: yeah with those things.

1025
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: So you started James Cosmetics. And for those who aren't aware,

1026
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: if you guys see my stories, it's the eyemasks, the

1027
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: colored eyemass that I'm always wearing, and they're amazing. I like,

1028
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm someone who struggles to sleep and so often I

1029
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: wake up with really puffy eyes and I've got to

1030
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: like go and film something, or like go and do this.

1031
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: So they have been a lifesaver for me. So I

1032
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: really want to talk about where did this passion for

1033
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: beauty stem.

1034
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: I actually studied beauty when I was twenty twenty one

1035
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: something and you're a makeup qualified beautician. Yeah, so I

1036
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 2: guess it was before I went into the whole fitness career.

1037
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: I was into beauty and I thought I might be

1038
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 2: able to do something here, and I wanted to do

1039
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: something with it. I had no idea that I was

1040
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: back in the lost time, and I didn't believe I

1041
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 2: could do anything, so I didn't really do anything with it.

1042
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: But I did study it and I loved it. I

1043
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: always loved makeup. I love art too, so I can

1044
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: draw and paint and do all that. I'm actually quite

1045
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: good at it. I don't do it enough, and I

1046
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: should do it more, but I can do it anyway.

1047
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: One of those sort of creative outlets that that I

1048
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: do is make up. It's just my way to be

1049
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: free and show. It's an art form for me. So

1050
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: I love makeup. I love skincare. I've always been that

1051
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: sort of person. And when I was a teenager, I

1052
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 2: used to make my own makeup. It sounds so bad, though,

1053
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: but I used to get like, you know, like the

1054
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: powder talk. It's so bad for you, by the way,

1055
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: but we didn't know it back then, but I get

1056
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 2: it and like mix it with my mum's makeup and

1057
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: like make my own ELFs so bad. I was like

1058
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: a kid, and I get what is it food die?

1059
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: And I'd make lip tints and things like that with it,

1060
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: and I'd like bleach off it. Really passionate about it.

1061
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: I just was always experimenting with things. But I just, yeah,

1062
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 2: I love all that that sort of stuff. I love

1063
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: beauty and I love health and fitness, and it's kind

1064
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: of works together as well.

1065
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: Amazing. And so where you were you quite scared to

1066
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: almost like, obviously you still have all your fitness and

1067
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: health stuff and you still do that, but this is

1068
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 1: like a whole new industry. Were you scared of moving

1069
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: into a whole different industry?

1070
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: I guess I wasn't really scared. And the reason is

1071
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 2: because I sort of learned that you had to throw

1072
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: yourself out there and you have to take risks and

1073
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 2: you and like we're talking about before, you can't let

1074
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: your fears hold you back. I don't believe it. I

1075
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 2: never want to have regrets. So I always wanted to

1076
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: do something with beauty. It made sense. Sam was already

1077
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: he was going to actually do it himself, and I

1078
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: want it in really early on, you had some samples

1079
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: and I tried that were gold under eye masks, and

1080
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: they were because I thought, this is bullshit, it's not

1081
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: going to do anything. And they actually worked, and I

1082
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 2: was like, give me them, give me all of them,

1083
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: and I want to. I want to. I went in,

1084
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: like I in on this business and I've always wanted

1085
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: to do beauty and it makes sense and I think

1086
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: we work well together. So then we started it and

1087
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: it was kind of a slow start. I guess I

1088
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: didn't really push it too hard. I was very focused

1089
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: on growing human because I was pregnant and I was

1090
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: also doing my fitness business. I was really busy, so

1091
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 2: I didn't put one hundred percent of my horsepower behind it.

1092
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 2: It was kind of a slow process, but it was

1093
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: also good because we could feel out, you know, if

1094
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: there's anything wrong that we needed to make changes or

1095
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: sea if there's any like, yeah, all the mistakes and

1096
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 2: things like that. It was just a slow like we

1097
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: did it properly, and then it wasn't until probably the

1098
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: start of last year we sort of get it, got

1099
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 2: it going more, and we realized it was actually doing

1100
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: really well and people were responding quite well to it.

1101
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: And that's the thing with business. You can't just you

1102
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: can't expect that it'll just take off, like it takes

1103
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 2: time and just because I had success in one area,

1104
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: which is health and fitness, or because all up, I've

1105
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: got fifteen million followers, that doesn't mean that they're all

1106
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: going to buy, you know, like it doesn't guarantee success.

1107
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: Just because you've had success in one business, it doesn't

1108
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: necessarily transfer to another. So it wasn't all new thing,

1109
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: and there was I did think, you know, it might

1110
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 2: not work, but it might work. But what do I

1111
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: have to lose? And I'd rather give it and give

1112
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: it a go. Yeah, we lose the money of it,

1113
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: whatever shit happens, you know, So anyway, we yeah, we

1114
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: got it going last year more full on than the

1115
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: year before. We dedicated more time to it and then

1116
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 2: started realizing that it was a serious business now and

1117
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 2: it's doing really well and we enjoy it. And it's

1118
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: also something I'm passionate about too. Like we talk about passion,

1119
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 2: but if you're doing something you don't really enjoy, it

1120
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 2: is hard to keep going with it. And because I

1121
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: did love it and it was a new thing and

1122
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: it was something that it was a fresh thing to

1123
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: me to focus on. Yeah, and I loved that, you know,

1124
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: women are loving it and they're loving all the masks

1125
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: and they're working. We have skin and care Now there's

1126
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: more coming this year. It's really exciting. I'm really happy

1127
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: with how it's all going and excited about all the

1128
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 2: new things are going to bring out. Amazing. We love you,

1129
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: we love you wearing them. Well, I'm just obsessed. So

1130
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: how could you know? No?

1131
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: Actually, I love that and I love what you said

1132
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: about You can definitely see that it is a passion

1133
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: of yours and you do have fire for it.

1134
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: So it's really nice to see.

1135
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: And so I wanted you to give the audience some advice,

1136
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: like maybe they want to start this new thing and

1137
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: they they're a bit worried, they don't.

1138
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 2: Know if they should do it.

1139
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: What is your advice on someone if they want to

1140
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: start a business of their own.

1141
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: Research? Research, research, research, Yeah, research. You need to know

1142
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 2: exactly what we want to do. It's kind of like

1143
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: I guess a health fitness goal. You need to know

1144
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: what you want and write it all down, work out

1145
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: what you need to do to make it happen, and

1146
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: make sure you've ticked off everything. And we all make

1147
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: mistakes and that's fine too, Like every business has mistakes,

1148
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 2: and now you would know as well. We're talking about

1149
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: it before, and that's fine, and just sort of pick

1150
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: yourself up up and reassess and change if you need to.

1151
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: But you have to do as much of it as

1152
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: you can yourself in the beginning. So when it's early

1153
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: and you can't afford to be taking on people you know,

1154
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: doing different jobs, you've got to do as much of

1155
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: it as you can yourself. And then also realize when

1156
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 2: the time comes, when the right time is to hand

1157
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: it over to someone who's better than you at that

1158
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: you know who can do it better, and don't Because

1159
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: we did this with the fitness business. We hired like

1160
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: eighteen people and they will just fucking around basically, and

1161
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: it was like a nightmare. And we realized that we

1162
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: were just putting out so much money to pay for

1163
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: all these people, and it just was ridiculous, like we

1164
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: didn't need them all. So also do it slowly as

1165
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: you need to really work out if you need to.

1166
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: Don't just go we're going to hire like the business

1167
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 2: is doing well, let's hire all these people. Because nothing

1168
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: lasts forever. You don't know what can happen tomorrow. And

1169
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: if it's social media business, then the algorithm, you know,

1170
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: it's in control, so you never know. But the other

1171
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: thing is to make sure that you find people you

1172
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: can trust, and it is very hard. We've had people

1173
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 2: do the dodge to us many times, but we've learnt too.

1174
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: And also keep eyes on everything. So don't just hire

1175
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 2: people and they talk shit and say they're great at

1176
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: everything and then you trust them and you leave it

1177
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: with them. You need to have some knowledge of whatever

1178
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 2: it is, so say it's advertising or Facebook advertising, you

1179
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 2: need to have some sort of idea about it so

1180
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: that you can have eyes on it and know if

1181
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: they're doing the right thing. Because we've been ripped off

1182
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 2: big time by people before saying they're doing something and

1183
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: they're not and what they were doing wasn't working. And

1184
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: because we were just like, oh yeah, we trust easily

1185
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 2: because Deck and my partner I both worked on the

1186
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: fitness business and grew together and we didn't know what

1187
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: we're doing. We never had businesses before. Declan was in

1188
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 2: the army before that, I was doing a bit of

1189
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: modeling of photography and makeup and just never did anything

1190
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: with business before, so I had no idea, He had

1191
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: no idea, and we're just learning as we went, and

1192
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 2: we were very trust We trust people, yeah, too easily.

1193
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: I love what you said at the start of like

1194
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: learning everything in the business and having some idea like

1195
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 1: that. That's a big thing for me is before we outsource something,

1196
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: I make sure that I can do it myself specifically, Yeah,

1197
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: so I know what's happening, but also just in case

1198
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: you know that person leaves or something happens, that you're

1199
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: not like a complete mess.

1200
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's learn as much as you

1201
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: can about it. And I keep repeating it. But deck On,

1202
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 2: my partner, taught himself how to advertise and he actually

1203
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: became quite good on Facebook, to the point of like

1204
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: he's he's really good. And then we had some business

1205
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: changes and we handed it over because he just sort

1206
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: of wanted out and he said it his own thing.

1207
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: But he taught himself and he spent many hours researching.

1208
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: And there are resources out there. You don't have to

1209
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 2: even pay for stuff or it's very online resources these days.

1210
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: You two use everything. Yeah, and with most people they

1211
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: will if they do like an online course or something,

1212
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: they always give a free resource to like your emails.

1213
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 2: So you have so much, so much there really is

1214
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: no excuse And if you want it, you got to

1215
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: go and do it. But it takes time, Like you

1216
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 2: need to actually invest that time and dedicate yourself to

1217
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: put like you've got to be all in and Deck

1218
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: used to sit up all night going through things. And

1219
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 2: I used to sit up all night doing my social

1220
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: media stuff and building it. This is back in the

1221
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 2: day when it was like nothing yet and people didn't

1222
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: have businesses online. And I knew that I was meant

1223
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 2: to do this. It was for a reason. It sounds

1224
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: silly because it's social media, but no people would be like,

1225
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: why are you doing this? Why are you doing that?

1226
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: And I was like up till four am working on it.

1227
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: Because people in the US. I love.

1228
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: I love how people they don't really understand the work.

1229
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it take I think it's a yeah, no, I

1230
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 3: wish there's so much time and energy to go that

1231
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 3: goes in Yeah, accounts and social media businesses and all

1232
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 3: that sort of thing.

1233
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's so much more about it.

1234
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: So I want to finish the interview off with just

1235
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: some last little question. So obviously, like you said, you

1236
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: just got from New York, you travel a lot for work,

1237
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: You're a mum, you're an entrepreneur, you've.

1238
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: Got a lot happening. How do you do it all?

1239
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 2: And if you don't do it all, struggle?

1240
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: Let us yeah, let us know, like how do you

1241
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: kind of go about handling it all?

1242
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, as I was talking to you before about it,

1243
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: I think we did it early in the in the

1244
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,479
Speaker 2: podcast which on Family's podcast. That's what we keep talking about.

1245
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but I always have this thing.

1246
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 2: It's something I'm always trying to stay on top of.

1247
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: But I'm always feeling like I'm not good enough and

1248
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: I'm always comparing and I always try to stay on

1249
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 2: top of it. I have to work really hard on

1250
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: it because I'm very bad at that. It's something that

1251
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: I sort of fall into the trap of. But a

1252
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: lot of people around me, especially on social media, and

1253
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: we know that that it's all bullshit anyway, but they

1254
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: seem to do it all. And I know these there's

1255
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 2: these fitness people out there that are mums of four

1256
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: kids and they've got their ripped body and they've got

1257
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 2: their businesses going and they look amazing. They make up

1258
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 2: some money and the hairs, don't they do it all themselves?

1259
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 2: They cook? Yeah, And I'm a cook, Like I'm not

1260
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: a good. I wish I was, but I'm just not.

1261
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: I'm real basic. I'll throw like chicken and veggies on

1262
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: and that's it, you know, that's my dinner. But I

1263
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: always look at these other people and think, how do

1264
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: they do it all? When I'm struggling, and I don't

1265
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 2: do anywhere near as much. But you don't know what's

1266
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: actually going on either, Like you don't know whether they've

1267
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: got help. I found out the other day a girl

1268
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: who I kind of know, who peered to do everything,

1269
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: actually does have a nanny and has an assistant. Like

1270
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: I don't have an assistant. I don't have any of that,

1271
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not saying it's

1272
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: a bad thing. But people do have help too, But

1273
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you can't compare to them.

1274
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: So anyway, to answer your question, I don't always do

1275
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: it all. I sometimes I don't always have it together.

1276
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: I don't always have it together. I'm a mess a

1277
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: lot of the times. But I do have good support.

1278
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: So I've got my partner, Decline, who's really supportive, especially

1279
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: with business, and he's a great dad and take care

1280
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,479
Speaker 2: of me. And when I'm traveling, he's just fantastic, which

1281
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for because my dad left when I

1282
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: was young, so it's just so good to see her

1283
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: have such a wonderful day. And then we're in the

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Speaker 2: office now actually recording this because we've got the podcast

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Speaker 2: room set up, which is my business as well, and

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Speaker 2: then we've got James Cosmetics in here and Spinning Co.

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Speaker 2: Which is my manager's company. So there's a few things

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Speaker 2: happening in here, but they're all Everyone in this office

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Speaker 2: building is incredibly supportive and does a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: to help me, which I'm so appreciative because I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: There's things or I've totally forgotten about and they've like, oh, look,

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Speaker 2: we've sorted this out. Well.

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Speaker 1: I just I love the fact that you said I

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Speaker 1: don't do it all like, I think that's such a

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Speaker 1: realist answer.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I've

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Speaker 2: got it all together and I do everything. And I'm amazing.

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Speaker 2: People out there are doing way more than me and

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Speaker 2: doing it way better, and that's great for them. That's

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Speaker 2: not me though. Yeah, you're doing the best you can

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Speaker 2: with what you have. That's it. You're just got to

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Speaker 2: look at what you're doing and just go I am

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Speaker 2: doing the best you can, and sometimes the best you

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00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: can in it isn't as good as another stage in

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Speaker 2: your life of the best you can. Does that make sense? Yes,

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00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: to yourself? Yes. I used to say only compared to

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Speaker 2: your previo yourself, but even then it's not it's not

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Speaker 2: really stick or not fair, like I can't compare it

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Speaker 2: to me pre baby, because it's totally different to just

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Speaker 2: do the best you can and it's good enough. You know.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: And so the last question that I ask all my

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Speaker 1: guests and it's what do you do to feel motivated

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Speaker 1: and inspired?

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a few different things. Is obviously people in

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Speaker 2: my life who are motivating and inspiring, and there's new

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Speaker 2: things like that I want to do with new business ideas.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of the time I have my go tos,

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Speaker 2: like we're talking about before, Brene Brown is one of

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Speaker 2: my biggest go tos for getting inspired. But it's more

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Speaker 2: when I'm feeling low, if I'm struggling, or if i've

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Speaker 2: been getting because I get a lot of there's the

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Speaker 2: online you know, trolls and things like that, which I'm

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Speaker 2: a strong person, but I still I'm sensitive at the

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Speaker 2: same time, so I can pull myself through it faster

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Speaker 2: than I ever have been able to before and process it,

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Speaker 2: but it still affects me. And I was about to

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Speaker 2: do a What was I doing? I was doing something.

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Speaker 2: I think I was doing the Today Show. I think

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Speaker 2: it was the Today Show in the US. So I

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Speaker 2: was in New York and I was petrified. I was

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Speaker 2: so nervous. And then I had some girl who actually

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Speaker 2: lives here in Australia writing some post about me being

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Speaker 2: bloated because I post about you know, I bloat, my

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Speaker 2: bloat and everything. I'm not bloated now, I'm just pregnant,

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Speaker 2: but normally I look pregnant anyway. But yeah, I always

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Speaker 2: talk about that and I say, look, it's normal to

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Speaker 2: bloat to some extent, but I always say, you know,

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01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: if it's happening all the time, go and see a doctor.

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01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: It could be something more serious. I'm responsible in that

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01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: sort of way. But I also wanted to show women

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01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 2: that it does happen, and that even though I'm fit

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Speaker 2: or at that time, I had abs, but I still

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01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: bloated and it's okay not to beat themselves up. This

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Speaker 2: girl who was like in the Health and Fitness industry

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01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: here in Australia posted it and then was saying that

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Speaker 2: I'm irresponsible and that there's something wrong with her, like

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Speaker 2: if she's bloating and she shouldn't be doing this in

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01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: really nasty stuff. And then her boyfriend was coming on

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01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: writing stuff and then people were like, yeah, she's an idiot,

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01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 2: blah blah, like horrible things, and I just I wasn't

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Speaker 2: in a position to be able to handle that because

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Speaker 2: I was already nervous about going on TV, and then

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Speaker 2: I felt like I was just getting like it's kind

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Speaker 2: of like having your armor pulled off in a way

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Speaker 2: and almost like spiraling a bit. Yeah, And I was like,

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't be like this. I need to

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Speaker 2: build myself back up. I need to take control and

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Speaker 2: I need to do this. What do I need to do?

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Speaker 2: And my go to is go and listen to Brene

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01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: Brown because she talks about when she did one of

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Speaker 2: her first I think it was her first TED talk

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01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 2: and she she thought she fucked it all up, like

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01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: she thought she was terrible. She got off and she

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01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 2: went and looked at the comments on the video on

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Speaker 2: YouTube or wherever I think I went on YouTube, and

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01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: people are saying nasty things to her and she should

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Speaker 2: get a nose job, and she needs botox, and she's

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01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: this and that, all these horrible things. And she was

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01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: like so hurtful, and I thought she built herself back up.

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Speaker 2: And she found this quote. It's about the man in

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Speaker 2: the arena, So yeah, look it up. Do you know

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Speaker 2: the one you read it out? This is awesome and

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01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: this is what helped her and it helps me too.

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Speaker 2: And I felt like on top of the world and

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Speaker 2: like I could do anything after this.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Theodore Roosebut that so, guys, the quote the

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Speaker 1: man in the arena. It is not the critic who counts,

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Speaker 1: not the man who points out how the strong man

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01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: stumbles or where the dear of deeds could have done

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Speaker 1: them better. The credit belongs to the man who is

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Speaker 1: actually in the arena, whose face is married by dust

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01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: and sweat and blood, who strives valiant valiantly.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, well, who.

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Speaker 1: Is who comes short again and again, who spends himself

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Speaker 1: in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in

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Speaker 1: the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at

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Speaker 1: the worst, if he fails, at least fails why daring greatly? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that his place shall never be with those cold

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Speaker 1: and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it and that just go oh. I

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01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: love it. And when she talks about this and sort

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01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 2: of breaks it down to it lights my fire fills

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Speaker 2: me back up. I have my armor back on and

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Speaker 2: I feel like I can take on anything because Brne

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Speaker 2: went through a similar thing and she came out on

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01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: top and I can do it too, and it's just empowering.

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01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: I love So anyway, she's who I go to. I

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01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 2: have the longest answers to every question, but she's my

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01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 2: definitely go to when I feel like, when I feel

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01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 2: like I need inspiration or if I'm in my hole

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01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 2: or my my pity pit or whatever. Yeah, I need

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01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: to need something. It's good.

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01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: You know what works for you to it's my tools.

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01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: Also obviously if I'm and I don't know why I'm

1406
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 2: talking about being negative sort of singing or in a

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01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 2: slump or whatever, but I guess it is in a

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01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: way inspire and that's how I get inspirational motivation to

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01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 2: get out of it and get back on track. But

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01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 2: I have my tools. So it's listened to Brane Brown.

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01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: It's put on music that I love and dance around

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01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: the house and I don't know if anyone's seen my

1413
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 2: dancing videos, but I can't dance, it doesn't matter. And

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01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: then I go for walks on the beach, get some sun,

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01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 2: get fresh air, a cup, yeah, get moving. Then I

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01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: then there's the affirmations and deep breathing diaformatic breathing, which

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01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 2: really helps being present in the moment, really absorbing everything

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01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 2: around you rather than being in this like crazy blurred

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01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean That, Well, where you're so

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01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 2: focus on yourself and whatever's happening, you can get out

1421
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: of your head. Yeah, you got to get out and

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01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 2: then notice things, noticings like the trees and yeah, I

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01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 2: just be present. Yeah. So that there's my tools. So

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01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: you gotta find tools that work for you. And there

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01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 2: you go to and when you're feeling shitty, go there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously going to be so different. Yeah around I love.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's my motivation, but yeah, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for being on the show, Emily.

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01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me actual delight.

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Speaker 1: The same people, all your answers, but you know it

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01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: has been great. Can you let the audience know where

1432
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: they can find you and all that good stuff.

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01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: We'll be at home later on. Don't go to Emily's home.

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01:04:55,680 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: So I think I'm Emily Scott on Facebook, Emily sky

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01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: Fit on Instagram. Don't forget the e after the sky

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01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: Twitter I think is miss Emily sky I don't know. I

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01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 2: don't really use that much. We'll link, I'll put all

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01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: the show. I think Snapchat's to Emily sky Fit too.

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01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: Is that all there is? Yeah? I can't keep check. Yeah,

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01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to start TikTok, but I don't know another

1441
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 2: thing to learn. We should make a research all right,

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01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: Thanks, And that's a wrap on another episode of the

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01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: Rise and Concer Podcast. I hope you got something valuable

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