1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: In three sixties, the week it was the most listened 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: to hour in Territory radio. The Territory Leaders great down 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: this week's big issues. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Well, before we do that, let's take a look at 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: the weather. Sunny, light winds. We're heading for thirty four 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: in the city, thirty six in the rural area and 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: thirty five degrees today in Catherine. The top ends tied 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: times in an outboard marine is Darwin's home of quin Tregs, 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: bar Crusher, Stabbycraft, Premium alloy boats and world leading Yamaha outports. 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: Today we're expecting well, we're on a high tide seven 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: meters at eight fifty five this morning in Darwin. 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: Right now it's sitting on twenty six degrees. 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: It's twenty five in the rural area, and in Catherine 14 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: it's sitting on twenty two degrees. 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: And good morning and welcome to the show. 16 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: It is time for the week that was proudly brought 17 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: to you by Desilver Hebron Lawyers, your local lawyers and 18 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: also broadcasting on eighth and in the studio with us 19 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: this morning, we've got the Opposition leader, Leofanocchiaro. 20 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 4: Good morning to morning, and it is twenty five in 21 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 4: the rural area. I just came from various springs. 22 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 5: It was beautiful. 23 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: Outlice weather out there excellent. And we we've got Matt 24 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: Cunningham from Sky News, good morning to you. 25 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 6: Good morning. 26 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: We've also got Kesier Purreic, the member for Goid, good 27 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: morning to you. 28 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 7: Good morning, Katie, Good morning rural people. 29 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: And we've also got Natasha files a Member for Nightcliff 30 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: and Well the Minister for Health. 31 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 8: Good morning wife. 32 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: And firstly, what as we're all wondering if Fireworks Day 33 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: well with the fire crackers, they're going to be allowed 34 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: to be let off on Sunday? 35 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: Any word yet, Filesy? 36 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 9: No, I think that we'll be waiting on the advice 37 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 9: from our officials and they'll be making that decision I 38 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 9: understand in the next twenty four hours, all right. 39 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: We'll hopefully be catching up with the Firies just after 40 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: ten o'clock this morning and getting a bit of a 41 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: better idea about how they're preparing now. Yesterday we learned 42 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: that restrictions in Greater Darwin and Catherine were lifted following 43 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: that lockdown last week after the man entered the Northern territory. 44 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 3: COVID positive. 45 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: There have been no further cases of COVID nineteen in 46 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: the territory since Greater Darwin and Catherine went into lockdown. 47 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: All of those close contacts remain in quarantine and all 48 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: testing has been negative to date. But I guess that 49 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: discussion is now starting to turn in all around the 50 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: nation about what, you know, what we might need to 51 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: do to get past this point in Australia more generally, 52 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: do we need vaccine passports? Do we need to make 53 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: sure that you know that everybody is vaccinated before they 54 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: travel into the Northern Territory. And my understanding is that 55 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: that is something that the Chief Minister is looking at 56 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: at the moment, whether whether we do need mandatory vaccination 57 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: if you want to come into the territory. 58 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 7: Pasha, Katie, Katie No, Natasha. 59 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: Is looking at her notes. I see, I thought, but I. 60 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 7: Jumped in, I jumped in. 61 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 5: Start a time. 62 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 7: I've got a time, Katie. 63 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 10: I'm not sure the legalities of a Presumably that's why 64 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 10: the Chief Minister is having it looked at, of having 65 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 10: saying to an individual citizen of Australia that you need 66 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 10: to have some kind of proof before you can come 67 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 10: across our borders. I don't know and obviously that legal 68 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 10: people will be able to tell you that. 69 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: But when it comes to. 70 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 10: A passport, I personally don't have any issue with it 71 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 10: because I already have a yellow document when I've traveled overseas, 72 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 10: particularly to African countries, where you have to show Australian 73 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 10: officials and others that you've been vaccinated for certain viruses 74 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 10: and illnesses yellow fever in particular, now yellow fever. If 75 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 10: you don't have the vaccination before you leave Australia and 76 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 10: then you go to somewhere like Kenya, you're going to 77 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 10: struggle to get back into Australia if you haven't had it. 78 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 7: So I have this document that I. 79 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 10: Keep with my passport and has a list of all 80 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 10: my vaccinations that I've got or had over the last 81 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 10: x time. When I've traveled to overseas countries where you know, 82 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 10: you you know, polio again, hebattus, ABC, malaria, you name it, 83 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 10: yellow fever, swine fever, SARS, all that sort of stuff. 84 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 10: So stick in another stamp in there, or a piece 85 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 10: of paper that says you're vaccinated against COVID. I don't 86 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 10: see the big deal because lots of people have these 87 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 10: kind of documentations with them all the time, particularly international travel. 88 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 10: I can't speak FINESTLEI within Australia, but if it's something 89 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 10: that's going to happen, well, I think it's just the 90 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 10: sign of our times, you know, with people past us, 91 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 10: our mothers and grandpathers or would never have had anything 92 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 10: like this and chill and in the future may never 93 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 10: experience it. But right now we've got to get on 94 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 10: top of this virus and that this is one way 95 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 10: to protect lives and people and travelers. 96 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 7: Well, I don't have a big deal with. 97 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 11: It, one hundred percent agree, and not only to protect 98 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 11: live lives and protect travelers, but to get us back 99 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 11: to some kind of normal because we can't continue to 100 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 11: lockdown every time there's one case of COVID nineteen. We 101 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 11: can't shut the borders every time there's a case in 102 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 11: a different state. 103 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 6: We need to get back at some point. Like I 104 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 6: think this. 105 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 11: Has already played out for longer than most people would 106 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 11: have expected it. We're coming towards the end of twenty 107 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 11: twenty one it and we're still in a situation where 108 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 11: we've got lockdowns in much of the country and we've 109 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 11: had lockdowns here as well. We need to get to 110 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 11: a point where, you know, ten cases of coronavirus into 111 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 11: state doesn't mean that the borders are closed and doesn't 112 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 11: mean that we get lockdown. 113 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 6: We've got to find a way forward. 114 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 11: You look at the UK at the moment, I'm watching 115 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 11: a test ticket in the UK in front of packed stadiums. 116 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 9: We've territorians have done a great job in being vaccinated 117 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 9: off in the is painted in that picture nationally is 118 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 9: a bit backward and but territories have stepped forward. Last 119 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 9: Wednesday we had over three thousand vaccines delivered in the territory. 120 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 9: We opened up to twelve to fifteen year olds, and 121 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 9: you know people are talking about it, jumping on board, 122 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 9: wanting to be vaccinated, and as Matt says, you know 123 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 9: we do need to like we thank everyone, you know 124 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 9: for the lockdown, people that shut their businesses and take 125 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 9: that economic hit, people's mental health, you know, through not 126 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 9: being able to participate in activities, catch up with loved ones, 127 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 9: particularly inter state, and like Matt said, I think we 128 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 9: all thought they'd be a wave in two three four 129 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 9: months last year and the fact, you know some people 130 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 9: haven't seen their families for coming on eighteen months two years, 131 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 9: so certainly we're investigating what legalities and what we can 132 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 9: put in place in the territory. 133 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 12: Leah. 134 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: Before I go to you, can I just play a 135 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: bit of a bit of an interview that I did 136 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: yesterday with a listener. Her name was Elizabeth and she 137 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: is from Alice Springs. Now she's actually in quarantine, still 138 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: in Alice Springs at the moment. So basically she'd been 139 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: to the Todd Facilla. She's been staying in the Todd 140 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: Facility in Alice. She'd been in Seahim in Victoria after 141 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: receiving medical treatment which she couldn't have in Central Australia. 142 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: She then sought an exemption to see her mother for 143 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: one hour as her mum was dying. That exemption was 144 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: not back a couple of times. Her mother since passed, 145 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: but she is still in quarantine now she is fully vaccinated. 146 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: Just take a listen to what she had to say 147 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: to us on the show yesterday. 148 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 12: Needs to look at the procedure and process and challenge 149 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 12: it for people who have been vaccinated, looking at people's 150 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 12: circumstances as for what they are, and looking really at 151 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 12: the risks so they can allow people out of the 152 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 12: Howard Spring facility to go home because they are low risk, 153 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 12: and that should have been afforded to me because I 154 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 12: was definitely a low risk and I've proved that. I've 155 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 12: had five tests now and they're all negative, every one 156 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 12: of them. 157 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: Now, the point I want to make from playing that 158 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: audio is the fact that she was she is fully vaccinated. 159 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: Now. 160 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: I do understand that obviously. 161 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: We're not there at the moment around Australia in terms 162 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: of those vaccination rates allowing us to open up and 163 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: you know, to not have people quarantining, but there needs 164 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: to be incentive as well. I think we do need 165 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: to sort of to give people something to look to 166 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: in order to you know, to make sure that they 167 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: do get vaccinated and we can open back up. 168 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think you know, this has been the 169 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: next phase of excuse me, this has been the next 170 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 4: phase of that conversation. I guess what people want to 171 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: know is is this being driven by the best health advice? 172 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: And of course I think governments right around the country 173 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: needs to be really open and honest about it because 174 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 4: there are a lot of people who just do not 175 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: like vaccines. 176 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 5: No matter what you say, it doesn't matter. 177 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, governments need to be upfront 178 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: about what this is all going to look like. 179 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, in vaccines Save lives, Katie, and I think that 180 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 9: there's perhaps some complacency that has snuck into our society. 181 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 8: KIZI. 182 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 9: You're not trying to, you know, pull out your age, 183 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 9: but as someone a little bit older, like for me 184 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 9: in my generation, I remember at high school being lined up. 185 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 9: I think it was to get the rebella immunization, but 186 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 9: that was you know about it. 187 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 8: I don't know any. 188 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 9: Of my family that have lived with the effects of 189 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 9: not being vaccinated, in those illnesses and disease that we've 190 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 9: eradicated or certainly come well under controlled due to vaccination. 191 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 9: So I think that we as a government, you know Territorians, 192 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 9: have responded well. There is some hesitancy in community and 193 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 9: we need to and we are working through you know, 194 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 9: community by community group and making them understand it is 195 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 9: so important for their health that they get vaccinated to 196 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 9: keep them and their loved ones safe. 197 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: It is really important and it's great to see now 198 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 4: that you know that twelve to fifteen year old bracket 199 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: have access to it. I'm fully vaccinated, you know, we 200 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 4: push the get vaccinated message wherever we can. We really 201 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: want to see those numbers rising, particularly in remote parts 202 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: of the Northern territory. Those numbers are still lower them 203 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: than certainly what we would expect by this point in time. 204 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 4: And of course making sure that people have the availability 205 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: on that COVID portal to be able to get on 206 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: get an appointment and then and then get the jam. 207 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: The point I want to make, and I'm keen to 208 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 2: sort of to go back to it is obviously the 209 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: chiefiness is talking about the you know, about the possibility 210 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: of I don't know whether it's introducing legislation or making it, 211 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: you know, making it a mandatory thing where you do 212 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: have to have the vaccine. 213 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: But I wonder whether it's. 214 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: A little bit more simple than the ASH and it's 215 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: more a matter of if you've had the vaccine, well 216 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: you don't actually need to go into into quarantine for 217 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: the two weeks if you've traveled into. 218 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 11: Some I think that's where we need to get to 219 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 11: and get too soon, because that situation, when someone like 220 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 11: that is fully vaccinated and he's been put in such 221 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 11: an awful situation, shouldn't be happening. Now that people are 222 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 11: fully vaccinated, I think we need to get to a 223 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 11: point where you know if you if you are fully vaccinated, 224 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 11: there are benefits that come with that. So at the moment, 225 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 11: I think people who are fully vavaccinated are really being 226 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 11: punished because of the slow vaccine roll out across the 227 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 11: country and for some other reasons like that situation should 228 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 11: not be happening. 229 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 6: That is, that's. 230 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 3: Unfair, it is, it's actually heartbreaking. 231 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: When I spoke to Elizabeth yesterday, so she's still in 232 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: the Todd facility right now. Her mum's passed away. Now, 233 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 2: she wasn't able to get out. She'd asked for an hour, 234 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 2: an exemption for an hour to go and see her 235 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: mother who was dying. 236 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: Now. In Alice Springs as. 237 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: Well, we also know that there was that trial as 238 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: I understand it, where some people were able to quarantine 239 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: at home with a different type of some kind of technology. 240 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: I thought to monitor them. 241 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 9: So in Alice Springs, going back probably about a month 242 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 9: or so now, the Territory Controller made a decision to 243 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 9: allow people to use the G two G technology which 244 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 9: has features that you can identify that someone, it's locating 245 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 9: them where they are and they abiding to the condition. 246 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 9: So we certainly have got the quarantine facilities. There is 247 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 9: technology those decisions, the Chief Health Officer and the territory 248 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 9: controller to make those final decisions. 249 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to finish this discussion without also raising 250 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: the concerns that have been raised with me all week 251 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 2: this week from gyms and from those gym operators, saying, 252 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: why on earth allowed to go and sit down and 253 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: eat and do various other things, but you're not able 254 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: to go to the gym. I'm not the gym that 255 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: I'm at. It is you know, you're distanced. I get 256 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: the sweat factor, I get the heavy you know. I 257 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: like that you're breathing near other people, but you're also 258 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: wiping down your equipment. Is there a way that we can, 259 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: if we go back into another lockdown, actually have some 260 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: kind of discussion with gyms to try and avoid a 261 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: situation where they're in lockdown for an additional week or 262 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: they're not able to operate for an additional week longer 263 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: than any other business. 264 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 9: So, Katie, we always follow that Chief Health Officer's final 265 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 9: advice is what I can say. But there are conversations 266 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 9: happening because I think that everybody has adapted the facets 267 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 9: of their life to COVID, and I certainly have heard 268 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 9: from gim owners the measures that they've put in place 269 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 9: to keep people safe, and is there a way And 270 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 9: we don't know what the next lockdown what will be. 271 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 9: You know, we've had two that have been fairly similar 272 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 9: in the sense of a very limited cases, and we've 273 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 9: managed to keep those lockdowns short. But yes, there are 274 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 9: conversations happening with industry and departments to see if there's 275 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 9: any forward planning that could be accommodated. 276 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: Because I've got to tell you, I think that people 277 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: have been, you know, territorians have been, you know, really 278 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: understanding about this whole situation. But I think that that 279 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: understanding and that patience is probably going to start to 280 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: disappear a little bit if we wind up in another 281 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 2: situation where one case, you know, Lands is in lockdown 282 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: for that yet locks down a whole city for that period. 283 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 9: To remember, the short sharp lockdown, the initial period is 284 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 9: just to stop everybody in their movement so that we 285 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 9: can get on top of any contact tracing, and then 286 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 9: the second part of it is waiting that replication cycle. 287 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 9: So I think people do need to understand the two 288 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 9: parts of lockdown and restrictions and why they are there. 289 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 8: But I think that, as I said. 290 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 9: You've seen a number of ways in it which we 291 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 9: go about it everyday, business that have been adapted for COVID, 292 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 9: and there are conversations around those. There's a couple of 293 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 9: activities that you know, have just been unfortunately not a 294 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 9: proof to this point. But is there anything we can 295 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 9: do in preparation to allow that into the future. 296 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 11: I just find it a bit like I went to 297 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 11: the Darwin Festival two nights last weekend. It was great, 298 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 11: but there are a heap of people there in very 299 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 11: close proximity to each other, and yet you can't have 300 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 11: ten people socially distanced at the gym. 301 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 6: If I was a gym owner. 302 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: I'd be pretty And I've spoken to a lot of 303 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: business owners who are really confused about the exceptional what 304 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 4: do you call the exceptional workers or the workers who 305 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 4: are allowed to be essential? Sorry, yes, escaping exceptional, but 306 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: they are exceptional essential workers, and how they put their 307 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 4: case forward for being able to be qualified as an 308 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 4: essential worker, because there are a lot of businesses who 309 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 4: don't have any interaction with anybody, yep. And they have 310 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: certainly been talking to me about, you know, how do 311 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 4: they go about trying to work out if during lockdown 312 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: they're allowed to continue with their work because they have 313 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 4: no contact with anyone. 314 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I do want to point out I've had a 315 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: couple of gym on it's not only come on here, 316 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: but also get in contact with me. One in particular 317 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: email me yesterday, she said, Katie, every Darwin Jim is 318 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: happy to work with the Health Minister and the Chief 319 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: Health Officer. 320 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: And do whatever needs to be done. 321 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: So I think that, you know, if we can be 322 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: a little bit more progressive I suppose and work together 323 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: in this space, hopefully it'll be a good thing for 324 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: the territory. Let's take a very short break. You are 325 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: listening to Mix one oh four point nine's three sixty. 326 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: It is the week that. 327 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: Was three sixties, the week that was thanks to the 328 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: Silver Hebron your local lawyers. 329 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: You are listening to Mix one oh four point nine's 330 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: three sixty. It is the week that was proudly brought 331 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: to you by the Silver Hebron Lawyers, your local lawyers 332 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: and also broadcasting on eighth. Now we were just discussing 333 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: obviously the possibility of well vaccine passports. But I do 334 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: want to look at the fact that Quantus is looking 335 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: at a flying non stop between Australia and London. Well 336 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: from Darwin to London is the possibility it was buried 337 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: right at the bottom of a pressure leigh yesterday. But 338 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: we're all on to it, wondering if this is going 339 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: to be the case or whether this is Alan Joyce's 340 00:14:58,720 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: way of just sticking it. 341 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 11: To the just Let's just hope we hold into it, 342 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 11: because I get the feeling that it might have been 343 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 11: Allen Joyce's way of saying to Mark McGowan, haymade. 344 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 9: It is an hour quicker from Darwin to London. 345 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 8: And Katie I think this. 346 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 9: You know, we will be traveling internationally and we all 347 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 9: hope that sooner rather than later. But international travel won't 348 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 9: be what it used to be. And so the fact 349 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 9: that Darwin has the Center for National Resilience does provide 350 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 9: the facility because even when people land from certain countries 351 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 9: of course will accept their vaccine passport that Kisi was 352 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 9: just talking about, for other people, there'll need to be 353 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 9: a verification process and so we do. 354 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 8: We are that perfect option. 355 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 9: We're keeping crews they can have all their resources on 356 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 9: Australian soil and so We have been working closely with 357 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 9: Quantus and very much encouraging them that Darwin is the 358 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 9: natural gateway not only into Asia but into Europe. 359 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: Did I hear correctly throughout the week Anna stage of 360 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: Palachet try and say that her new place that she's 361 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: going to be building, her new quarantine facility, is going 362 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: to be better than Howard Springs. 363 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: Just build it first, lady done? 364 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 7: Shelish, what does it sholl USh your money? 365 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 8: Honey Howard Springs? Who the residents of Howard Springs? 366 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 9: Who would have thought that it would become such a 367 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 9: common household someway? 368 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: Exactly? 369 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 8: It's up there with. 370 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. 371 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: It has become something that we're all talking about. But look, 372 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: if we can get this flight happening, I think it 373 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: would be a great thing for hopefully down the track 374 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: and we are still talking quite a while away, but 375 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: down the track when it comes to tourism here in 376 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: the Northern Territory, and goodness knows we need it at 377 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: the moment. I've spoken on numerous occasions to both Tourism 378 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: Top End and also Tourism Central Australia more specifically about 379 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: the real concerns that they've got at the moment around 380 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: really not having visitors to Central Australia. We know that 381 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: the tourism vouchers were announced earlier in the week, but 382 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: Tourism Central Australia has again called for that federal job 383 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: keeper scheme to be reinstated so that the you know, 384 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: those businesses that are struggling there have got some support. 385 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: It's tough going, there's no about it. 386 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 4: It's really tough in Central Australia and it has been 387 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 4: for a long time. And shout out to our Alice 388 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 4: listeners today, you know, if this does come together and 389 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 4: so Natasha, I don't have much confidence in your government 390 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 4: to deliver this. I've got full confidence in Alan Joyce 391 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: to stick it where he wants. 392 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 13: But what the what the territory seriously seriously, So what 393 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 13: what the territory government really needs to be focusing on 394 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 13: is how we can package this up to benefit everyone 395 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 13: in the territory. And so if we can be creating 396 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 13: initiatives where people from interstate have to get to the territory, 397 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 13: get to darn when to get on this direct flight, 398 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 13: have to go via Alice or something like that, you know, 399 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 13: where we can sort of package up and a whole 400 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 13: of territory experience, and that will certainly be where we 401 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 13: start seeing the runs on the board, because you know, 402 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 13: crime is not going away in Alice and that's just 403 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 13: adding to this COVID pain that's being inflicted on them. 404 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 7: That's right, I think. I mean good on contest and 405 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 7: Alan Joyce, I mean a contest is just coming home. 406 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: She should have been here all the time, shouldn't it. 407 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly, given Queensland and Northern Territory are its traditional homes. 408 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 7: But that's a good flight and it's good news. 409 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 10: And with all the you know, the precautions that we 410 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 10: have now in traveling, I'm sure it will be successful. 411 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 10: But with Lear and Natasha and Matt, we all agree 412 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 10: that something has to give with Alice Springs, it's such 413 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 10: a town that's dependent upon tourism. It's tourism, from my understanding, 414 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 10: is predominantly its industry, followed by sort of the mining 415 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 10: patrolling industry, and you know then subsequent general tourism. So 416 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 10: there has to be some kind of packaging, whether there 417 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 10: has to be something like you know, to talk with 418 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 10: the gan operators to get quick fast trains to take 419 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 10: people from Darn like I'd go to our springs on 420 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 10: a couple of nights on a train. You know, I 421 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 10: don't know what the arrangements are with the gan and 422 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 10: things of that nature, but those tourist people and those 423 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 10: you know got bright sparks and marketing, they really need 424 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 10: to work with government and the tourist operators to try 425 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 10: and come up with something that's different that people just go, 426 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 10: I'm going to go to Alis even for just a 427 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 10: couple of nice and stas put a bit more money 428 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 10: into the town. 429 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 4: But reputationally it's really important as well. You know, if 430 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 4: you google, like you know, going to Alice Springs, it 431 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: comes up with the second mosask question is is it safe? 432 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 4: And so we've got this issue where we've got the 433 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 4: most beautiful place with beautiful people and such an amazing 434 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 4: story to tell. 435 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 5: It's iconic in Central Australia. 436 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: But they're also not just up against the fact that 437 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 4: most of our nation is locked down, but then that 438 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 4: there's this overlay of people you know, considering either driving 439 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 4: through or flying pass and we can't have that. And 440 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 4: that's why crime is so pivotal to a strong economy 441 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 4: and a strong tourism sector. 442 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 9: And Katie, we know that in Central Australia. The tourism 443 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 9: industry has been absolutely decimated, and there's part of it 444 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 9: is that they did have such a reliance on international 445 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 9: tourism and we pivoted with them earlier this year with 446 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 9: the Mates Rates campaign, so we had the tourism vouchers 447 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 9: and their back, but we recognized that in Central Australian. 448 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 9: We listened Tourism Central Australia put that up to the 449 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 9: government as a as an option, and we funded that 450 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 9: to support them. 451 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 8: And last week Paul Kirby. 452 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 9: And I announced twelve and a half million dollars in 453 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 9: conjunction with the federal government, and part of that was 454 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 9: specifically aimed at touring and event organizers because there's some 455 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 9: sections where so you know, some tourism businesses can pivot 456 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 9: and can market to local you know, around their product, 457 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 9: but others it's just decimated them. So we certainly are 458 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 9: listening and being responsive in that space. 459 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 11: To sort of go back to the point we were 460 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 11: making before the break, like, if we don't find a 461 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 11: way to open up the country, get vaccinated and open 462 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 11: up the country, all of these things are just going 463 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 11: to be stop gap band daid measures. You can't keep 464 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 11: giving job keeper. The government doesn't have a money tree 465 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 11: an infinite amount of money to pay. 466 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 5: The Gunner government does. 467 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, but. 468 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 5: Why others going over borrow? Michael Gunners is money tree. 469 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 11: But in all seriousness, you can't have if your two 470 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 11: biggest markets are shut off, you two Biggs domestic markets 471 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 11: in Sydney and Melbourne. 472 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 6: That's right, Then what I hope have you got? 473 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 11: And I think then then going forward for Alice Brings 474 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 11: once things do open up, I think we need to 475 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 11: look at how we get cheaper flights. 476 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 6: Into Alice, which if you remember back. 477 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 11: In the day when Tiger Airways flew for fifty bucks 478 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 11: from Melbourne to Alice Springs, you know there were lots 479 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 11: of people going. Right now, it's become cost prohibitive. 480 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 6: We talk to people in. 481 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 11: Alice Springs, that costs them more to fly from Alice 482 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 11: Springs to Adelaide than it does come from Adelaide to Europe. 483 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 2: And this is the problem that we've got even for 484 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: us up here in the top end. Right now, I'd 485 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: love to take the kids to Alice Springs in the 486 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: September school holidays, but it is awfully expensive. 487 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 3: So is there a way? 488 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 2: And I know that It's much easier said than done. 489 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: But is there a way of being able to get 490 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: locals to get to the likes of Alice Springs? And 491 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: I know those tourism vouchers are a help, but you 492 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 2: know the reality of it is, it's it's not a 493 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 2: huge amount when you're talking about taking a family of 494 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 2: four or five or in some cases six, you know 495 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: it's but having those having that family in Alice Springs 496 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: is a great thing because you get down there and 497 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: you spend all your money or whether you're in Ularu, 498 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 2: wherever you are, you get out there, you support the 499 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: local economy, which is exactly what we want to see happening. 500 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 3: Well, take a very short break. 501 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: There is a lot to cover off, but I'm keen 502 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 2: to talk about the turf Club's new board and well 503 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 2: some of the legal action being taken against the Ikak 504 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: in just a couple of moments. 505 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: Three sixties the week that was thanks to the silver 506 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: hebron your local lawyers. 507 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: It is just twenty five minutes away from ten o'clock 508 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 2: and we've got Leofanochiaro, Matt Cunningham, Keesi, Epirica Natasha files 509 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: in the studio with us this morning. Now we know 510 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: that the former Darwin Turf Club chairman, Brett Dixon, well 511 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: he obviously was not re elected onto the board. 512 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 3: Earlier in the week. 513 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 2: We know that the Darwin Turf Club had their well, 514 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: they had their meeting and elected for an entirely fresh start. 515 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 2: You would have to think that this is the right 516 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: way to go, I think for the Turf Club in 517 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: terms of well being able to get the government back 518 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: on side for a start. I know that that's you 519 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: know that they were pretty concerned or I would think 520 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: that they were pretty concerned about the fact that no 521 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: government ministers attended the Cup Carnival at all. Is this 522 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: the right way to go? Natasha, you are the Minister 523 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: for Racing. 524 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 9: Yes, Katie, so we made it clear that we wanted 525 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 9: to have confident it's in that board. So they have 526 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 9: got a fresh board, a clean start, and we look 527 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 9: forward to working constructively with them. As I made it 528 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 9: clear in my previous commentary that the industry needs to 529 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 9: be supported. It's an important industry here in the territory, 530 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 9: as Keysier and I've discussed, there's many good people involved 531 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 9: and so we want to make sure that racing continues 532 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 9: to attract people to the territory that it builds our economy, 533 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 9: and we welcome and congratulate those new board members. 534 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 6: So you're still planning the claw back the twelve million dollars. 535 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 8: So we'll meet with the new board. 536 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 9: I think that the twelve million dollars being recovered is 537 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 9: something that the public expect. But we'll meet with that 538 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 9: new board and hear from them first. 539 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 11: So how will you get it back? How do you 540 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 11: get the twelve million bucks back? 541 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 9: So we do provide funding to them, So that's something 542 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 9: that we'll meet with the board and discuss that we 543 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 9: do provide funding. 544 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 8: But I mean they don't. 545 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 5: They don't get the money back because they can't get back. 546 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 9: We'll we'll meet with that new board. We won't perhaps 547 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 9: have a discussion on radio. We'll give them the courtesy 548 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 9: of meeting and hearing from them, and I look forward 549 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 9: to that. 550 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 10: So they can't they can't. They can't get the money back. 551 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 10: And should they try and get the money back. It 552 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 10: was a straight grant. So if the government tries to 553 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 10: claw the money back by future grants and say instead 554 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 10: of ten million this year and are going to get 555 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 10: eight and that's two million off the twelve million yearoas. 556 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 10: Then it sets a very dangerous precedent for direct grants 557 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 10: for any other organization in the territory to someone like 558 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 10: Friend's Past Reserve, for example. So if the government doesn't 559 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 10: like how the organization or the people or the council 560 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 10: are spending the money, are they going to say, oh, well, 561 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 10: we didn't like what you did and we don't like 562 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 10: your governance, therefore give us. 563 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 7: The money back. 564 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 10: It's it's a very dangerous precedent. And I think you 565 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 10: gave the money the Turf Club. Of what they did 566 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 10: with it is one issue, but how the government gave 567 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 10: the money is really what the issue is, and no 568 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 10: one is addressing that exactly. Accuses Michael Gunner refuses to 569 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 10: talk about that component. 570 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 5: But exactly I put. 571 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: In two hundred questions about that. 572 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 4: Indeed I did. So you know, this is this is 573 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: a crazy situation. We've got an IKIC report drop saying 574 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 4: government gave away twelve million dollars on a dodgy grand 575 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 4: stand deal. 576 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 6: You go, misone in the government. 577 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm not saying that. 578 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 6: It doesn't clear the cleansing government. 579 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 11: I'm just saying it's interesting that that ik report makes, 580 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 11: you know, just talking. 581 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 7: Isn't that coincidental and very unusual. 582 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 5: It's just talking to that point, Matt. 583 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 4: It's very clearly states at the start of the report 584 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 4: that the k did not look at confidential matters, privileged 585 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 4: cabinet and confidence or confidential communications between ministers. 586 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 5: That was all excluded exactly. 587 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 11: So like, what sort of process is it that it 588 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 11: can't look at where the real issue is it has 589 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 11: to go. 590 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 10: Then it's a private enterprise bags everyone. No one actually 591 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 10: broke the law. No laws have been broken that I 592 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 10: have seen, and this and. 593 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 11: The defense and the defense that the government nothing. It 594 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 11: didn't make any find against us. 595 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: It couldn't because it doesn't. 596 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 5: It doesn't hold water. 597 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 4: And that's why we asked two hundred questions which were 598 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 4: ignored and fastically answered by the gun of government. But 599 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 4: going back, you know the Chief Minister when that ICIC 600 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 4: report drop came out and said the whole board have 601 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 4: to go, they've got to get the sack and we're 602 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 4: going to claw back the money and all this tough talk, 603 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 4: the implication of that was at sixteen hundred community organizations 604 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 4: around the territory, we're going to be at the whim 605 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 4: of the Chief Minister if he changed laws to be 606 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 4: able to control the governors of community organizations. We always 607 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 4: backed our community orgs and said member based organizations deal 608 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 4: with this by voting. 609 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 5: That's how it should be. 610 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 4: The Chief Minister should not have the power to be 611 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 4: able to go around and sack boards and Keysy is right, 612 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 4: you know, they can't go around and claw back money 613 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 4: from community organizations either. But it's a desperate government falling 614 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 4: apart on this issue. They've shut us down repeatedly in parliament, Katie. 615 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 4: They don't want to talk about it at all because 616 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 4: they're happy to light to your face over the radio 617 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 4: or on the TV. 618 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 5: They're not happy to lie in parliament. 619 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 4: And in in response to our two hundred plus questions, 620 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 4: we had the same three or four answers copy pasted 621 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 4: across all of them. 622 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 5: None of them answered the question. 623 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 4: And it honestly is a sad day for democracy when 624 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 4: you've got a government using every tool in the shed 625 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 4: to shut down scrutiny and avoid answering questions. 626 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 11: And the other point I'd make is that if the 627 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 11: government had a problem with Jtex building the Grandstand before, well, 628 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 11: you know it took a couple of years, but I 629 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 11: spoke about it plenty of times when I wrote thousands of. 630 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 6: Words about it. 631 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 11: Yeah, but I didn't see the government at any point 632 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 11: at that time step up, step in and say, hang on, 633 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 11: we don't think this is right. 634 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 6: You're not getting the twelve million bucks. 635 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 11: If j tex is building the grand stand, like, if 636 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 11: they had a problem with it, then they should have 637 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 11: said something. 638 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 6: I go, oh, I've sacked the board, and you know 639 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 6: the running back. 640 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 4: The only people who can give away twelve million dollars 641 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 4: is not the Turf Club. 642 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 5: It's not Alf Leonardi, it's not anybody. 643 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 4: It's Michael Gunner, it's Natasha Files, it's Nicole Manison. It's 644 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 4: all of the people in that cabinet who sat down 645 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 4: allowed something to come in under the arm that hadn't 646 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 4: properly been scrutinized by Treasury or any of their government departments, 647 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 4: and make a decision to give away as a lump 648 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 4: sum twelve million bucks. 649 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 5: That was you guys, nobody else. 650 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 10: Cadie. I just want to comment on something that Leah 651 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 10: said about, you know, putting in questions on notice in 652 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 10: the Chief Minister in his department not answering the questions. Well, 653 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 10: this is obvious It happened in the last sittings and 654 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 10: the sittings before the Chief Minister and the Government shut 655 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 10: down debate on many things the Opposition brought up. So 656 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 10: the Chief Minister, with obviously the agreement of the Speaker, 657 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 10: cancel the sittings. So the Chief Minister will go to 658 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 10: any extent not so long to actually on the COVID lockdown. 659 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 10: Governments still operating. The New South Wales government is still operating, 660 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 10: and the Victorian government is still operating, but not the 661 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 10: little Northern Territory government doesn't want to answer questions, so 662 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 10: he shuts down parliament. 663 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: Are those days going to be made up? 664 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 9: So, Katie, we went into the lockdown on the Monday, 665 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 9: as everyone knows, and our lockdown was not about continuation 666 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 9: of business. It was stopping everything, stopping all the movement 667 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 9: to stop any potential spread of the virus. And yes, 668 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 9: three days of parliament, just like many things were interrupted, 669 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 9: the down festival, etcetera. And so we believe that the 670 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 9: rest of the sitting schedule that we've got can accommodate 671 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 9: the government. 672 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: They're not going to be made up. 673 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 8: I haven't finished my sentence, well, bottom, time to. 674 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 7: Get what I'm saying is I got my legislation. 675 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 4: To business and they don't want to face the music. 676 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 4: They don't want to stand in parliament. 677 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 5: Just because you are show business. 678 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 8: Well go fast. 679 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 5: That wasn't on zero. 680 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 9: But what I was saying, Katie, we saw parliament interrupted 681 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 9: last year significantly. 682 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 8: It is unfortunate there was interrupted. 683 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 9: But if we do need to schedule sittings days, we 684 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 9: will and I've already had that conversation with the speaker. 685 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 4: It's not about whether you need to Parliament only sits 686 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 4: for about thirty days a year, and if you take 687 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: out three days, you take out ten percent of the 688 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 4: available parliament time. That's when a government is scrutinized. All 689 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 4: governments around in the West Winds the system are responsible 690 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 4: and accountable. 691 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 3: To the permal commit. 692 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 5: We're not spe now, you don't have any business. 693 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 8: You just said we're not. 694 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 4: We're not in lockdown. We can abslill a meeting. We're 695 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 4: sitting in a room. 696 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 5: With five people. 697 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: Don't beished. It's a very important question. R MLA is 698 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: essential workers. 699 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 7: Yes, they would declared essential. 700 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: Words, So why not go to work? 701 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 4: So, Katie, because they don't questions by me, they don't 702 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 4: want me asking them questions. They don't want me running 703 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 4: important business that territories are asking us to run. They 704 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 4: want to run and hide. They hate parliament because it 705 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 4: means they're under the pump. They've got no business, nothing 706 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 4: to do, and they. 707 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 5: Don't want to face the music. They don't face such 708 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 5: a question of the opposition. 709 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: Schedule. Negative. 710 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 8: People are sick of the wing. 711 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: All right, let's hear it. 712 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 4: It's not the feedback I'm getting in Berry Springs this week. 713 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 11: I heard you. 714 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 8: It is sitting on your phone in Berry Springs. That's 715 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 8: what I heard. 716 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: And I'm just going to turn all your microphones down 717 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: for a second. You're all down for a second. Let's 718 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: all take three seconds to calm down, and when we 719 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: come back, let's hold off on the personal insults and 720 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: go from there. 721 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 9: So, Katie, in all seriousness, in terms of parliament, it 722 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 9: is important to Territorians. And what I have said is 723 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 9: we believe we can manage the parliamentary business. But if 724 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 9: we need additional days and we don't know what's going 725 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 9: to happen, Katie, we might end up in another I 726 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 9: don't want it to happen, but we might end up 727 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 9: in another lockdown. 728 00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 8: But I have looked at the. 729 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 9: Leg that is before the House, the scheduled legislation we need, 730 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 9: and we will work with the Speaker to odd additional 731 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 9: days if we need to. 732 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 4: Katie, let me just say last sittings we had hardly 733 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: anything any government business, so much so that they brought 734 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 4: on urgency a bill to amend the Parole Board makeup, like, oh, 735 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 4: who's going to be the chair of the Parole Board? 736 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 3: Quick? 737 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 5: We better pass out on urgency. 738 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 4: Urgent legislation is reserved for things that are like really urgent. 739 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 4: It means it means no one can scrutinize it, no 740 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 4: one gets time to be consulted on it. It just 741 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 4: happens immediately and is jammed through by government. Now, government 742 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 4: brought that up before the lockdown in the first week 743 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 4: of sittings, ready to pass in the second week, and 744 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 4: now all of a sudden, oh well, we can just 745 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 4: deal with it in September. So it wasn't urgent at all. 746 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 4: It was because they had nothing to do and they thought, oh, jeepers, 747 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 4: we've got this one ready to go, why don't we 748 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 4: bring that forward. The Parliament is not just about government business. 749 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 4: What about the independent and opposition members who have the 750 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 4: opportunity to ask questions in question time and on Wednesday, 751 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 4: it's actually the opposition and independent members who run the 752 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 4: agenda for the entire afternoon. They now, if they don't 753 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 4: bring those three days of parliament back, that means the 754 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 4: opposition and independent members have no chance to scrutinize government 755 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 4: during question time, no time, no opportunity to run their 756 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 4: own motions are about issues across the territory. So it's 757 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 4: not fine for government to say, oh, that's all right, 758 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 4: we can just jam it into September. You are removing 759 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 4: three clear days from the sittings week of being scrutinized 760 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 4: by the very people elected to do that job. And 761 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 4: that is not okay. That is a breach of our 762 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 4: democratic right to do that. And territories elect us to 763 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 4: be in parliament. You're the government, it's your job to 764 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 4: face up to scrutiny. 765 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 10: Well, you know, and I agree with Leah too much 766 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 10: of the extent because as an independent, you know, I 767 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 10: take the opportunity to comment on legislation where it's relevant 768 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 10: to my rule area or rule people and my constituents. 769 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 10: The Parole Board legislation not particularly relevant, but it's an 770 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 10: important piece of legislation because the Parole Board is exceptionally 771 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 10: busy doing what they do, and the one chairman at 772 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 10: the moment is a very busy charge and it was 773 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 10: going to be a piece of legislation that the Chief 774 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 10: Justice and the courts asked for. But Lea's quite correct, 775 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 10: you know, if it was so urgent, why do we 776 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 10: cancel parliament? 777 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 2: Now? 778 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 10: As an independent I can talk on that bill. I 779 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 10: can talk in a German about things happening in my elective, 780 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 10: any other piece of legislation, the GBD question time, question time, 781 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 10: So I have been denied that opportunity last sittings or 782 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 10: the one before the Minister Pate got up and shut 783 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 10: the parliament down at the end of the day. 784 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 7: We didn't even get a chance to do in a German. 785 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 7: Now that is that has never happened. 786 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 8: To my knowledge of my twelve or thirty. 787 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 10: Years in the parliament, not even the opportunity to talk 788 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 10: about something in'm elected, which is just nice usually nice things, 789 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 10: or to acknowledge people's achievements. But he got up and 790 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 10: shut the parliament, so no one on the cross bench 791 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 10: has got a chance to talk about anything in a Germany. 792 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 4: That was the night before the Ikak report dropped on 793 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 4: the Turf Club. 794 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 7: But the government that shut down parliament and wielding. 795 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 4: Their power to manipulate parliament, which is a disgrace. Our 796 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 4: entire democratic system is founded upon this basis that we 797 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 4: elect people to represent us in parliament. If the government 798 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 4: he's got no business, that's their problem. We've got plenty 799 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 4: of things to do. We represent thousands, tens of thousands 800 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 4: of people collectively as an opposition and independent who have 801 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 4: questions for us to ask the government. 802 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 5: They have to face the music. These are not additional days. 803 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: I heard Natasha saying, you know, if we need additional days, 804 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 4: we'll schedule them. No, these are the scheduled days. The 805 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 4: scheduled days, they are our process of our democracy, and 806 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 4: so they need to be rescheduled for you know, tack 807 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 4: them on the back of the week in September. But 808 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 4: they cannot be just destroyed and disbanded with that's ten 809 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 4: percent of our only opportunity for scrutiny just gone. 810 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a fair enough question to be raising. 811 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: I think it's certainly a fair enough discussion to be 812 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: having about whether those days should be rescheduled before we 813 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 2: move along though I do want to just ask, you know, 814 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 2: the conversation that obviously kicked that whole discussion off was 815 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: what's going on with that with the Turf Club board 816 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: obviously the reelection or the election of new members, but 817 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 2: very keen to find out, Matt, I know that you're 818 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 2: reporting that there is a second former Turf Club board 819 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: member has commenced legal action against the Nteesoundy corruption watchdogs, 820 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: seeking to strike out those adverse findings made against them. 821 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: I've really got to wonder where all this is going 822 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: to land with this report in the Supreme Court. 823 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 11: Well, not confirmed, but I believe there may be other 824 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 11: challenges Supreme Court challenges against that report as well, And 825 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 11: that makes me wonder where this all ends up. If 826 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 11: this goes to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court 827 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 11: rules against the Ikak right or settles out of court 828 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 11: or whatever the case may be, where does that then 829 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 11: leave the situation with what's happened with the Turf Club 830 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 11: and the Turf Club Board, where the government has effectively 831 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 11: said you need to be off that board. You know, 832 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 11: Bret Dixon, the Game Roalty, you need to be off 833 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 11: that board. If suddenly there is a legal decision that 834 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 11: goes the other way. But then does that open recourse 835 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 11: for them to say I was kicked off the board 836 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 11: because you know, the government. 837 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 10: Of a report that's now been found to be flawed. Well, 838 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 10: and you see that happens, I listened to something that 839 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 10: might have been matt you or might have read it 840 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 10: somewhere about individuals and people aside, the actual Turf Club as. 841 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 7: An institution has had its name tarnished. 842 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 10: So as I understand it, the new board will be 843 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 10: looking at how its reputation and image has been affected 844 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 10: by the report and whether it as an institution needs 845 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 10: to take legal action or find redress. So it's one 846 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 10: thing to have individuals perhaps going to the courts for 847 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 10: redress and to have judicial reviews of the report. But 848 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 10: it's another thing that the actual turf Club itself might 849 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 10: decide but to go forward. 850 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 8: With some kind of legal action. 851 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 4: But what it doesn't change is the fact that it 852 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 4: was government who gave that twelve million dollars away. And 853 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 4: it doesn't change the fact that even though the government 854 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 4: called for the board to resign and they were all 855 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 4: disgraced and everything else that government said about them, and 856 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 4: you know, government boycotted the races until they all resigned. 857 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 4: The Chief Minster then went an appointed one of those 858 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 4: very same board members to one of his own government boards. 859 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 4: So we've got the turf Club board being told to 860 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 4: be sacked and resigned, one of those people doing exactly 861 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 4: as government asked, and then pops up as a chair 862 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 4: of the government board, you know, a couple of weeks later. So, 863 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just a disgrace what has been happening 864 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 4: with this saga and the lack of ANSWER's lack of 865 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 4: scrutiny just shows a desperate government baring their head in 866 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 4: the sand, trying to make this goal away. 867 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 11: The other thing, just to bring it back to the 868 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 11: issue with the IKAK, the other thing, I think that 869 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 11: is becoming an issue, and I think that Territorians who 870 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 11: pay the taxes that pay these pay for these things, 871 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 11: deserve to know. Is how much the IKACK is paying 872 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 11: on legal fees or on several I'm not asking Cheesier 873 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 11: to say how much she was paid or whether she 874 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 11: was paid or not, because I know she can't. Right 875 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 11: there's a confidentiality agreement in place, but it's taxpayers money 876 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 11: that's being used to either fight these things in the 877 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 11: Supreme court or settle these things, and therefore I think 878 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 11: we need to be upfront about how much that's costing. 879 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 6: Territorians the lot already. Well you probably know. 880 00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 7: Better, costing the taxpayers a lot money. 881 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: Well we'll take yeah, we'll take a very short break. 882 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 2: I think there's still plenty of discussion to be had 883 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 2: on that topic, but lots of other things as well. 884 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 2: You are listening to Mix one or four point nine's 885 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 2: three sixty. It is the week that was. 886 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: Three sixties, the week that was thanks to the silver 887 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: hebron your local lawyers. 888 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 2: You are listening to the week that was also broadcasting 889 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: on ADH. And well we're almost done for the morning, 890 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 2: but we know the local council elections are happening this weekend. 891 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 3: We've been catching up with a lot of the different candidates. 892 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 2: It's certainly been an interesting week and yeah, we'll all 893 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 2: be heading to the polls if we haven't already. 894 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 3: I think Alice Springs, they've got a large field for 895 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 3: the for the mayor. It's almost it's only got about five. No, 896 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 3: I thought it was a few more. I could be wrong, Yeah, but. 897 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's posters everywhere, Katie. 898 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 10: It's good that people I think it's good that people 899 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 10: are putting their hand forward, like out in Lichfield, Big Field, 900 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 10: not only not only for the mayor. I think there's 901 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 10: about six going for the mayoral position, but we've got 902 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 10: at least there's two two councilors per ward and a few Wards, 903 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,959 Speaker 10: but they've got seven to six nominations. 904 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 2: Actually really impressed with the Lichfield candidates, the mayor candidates 905 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 2: that I spoke to earlier in the week. 906 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 10: I think they're all good and I think Marie Bredhouse, 907 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 10: you know it's going to be a tough race, but 908 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 10: also the Wards, I just. 909 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 7: Think it's good that. 910 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 10: I don't know whether the COVID situation in the communities 911 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 10: change people's thinking, but everyone's prepared to put up their hand. Okay, 912 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 10: so people are more they've got more of a chance 913 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 10: than others. I mean, that's just just the way it is. 914 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 10: But I think the same for Darlin. I've looked on 915 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 10: the website. 916 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 7: There's lots of candidates put in their names up at Palmerston. 917 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 2: Can be good that people absolutely believe in themselves and 918 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 2: have a great community. 919 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 4: It's good and early votings made it really easy, so 920 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 4: you know, don't forget for Council elections. Voting day is tomorrow, 921 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 4: but you can easily access a voting center today and 922 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 4: just pop in and out. 923 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 5: I know that's what I did. It was super easy. 924 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 2: And then well, September eleventh, we're going to see the 925 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 2: Daily by election. 926 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 3: That's going to be interesting. 927 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 5: That's a big hoo hoo yah. 928 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 4: It's a fantastic stick opportunity for people out in the 929 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 4: electorate of Daily. I know, I've been out in Burry 930 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 4: Springs and out all around the traps talking to people 931 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 4: and they're really angry in the way the Gunner government 932 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 4: have dealt with crime, dealt with our economy and just 933 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 4: the plain avoidance of scrutiny. So our message to people 934 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 4: in Daily is really clear. You know, we need a 935 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 4: strong opposition to continue to hold this government to account. 936 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 4: This election is not going to change the government, so 937 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,919 Speaker 4: you know it puts up put Chris Civitries on our team. 938 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 4: He will be a very strong voice for people in 939 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 4: Daily and we can then keep ensuring that this government 940 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 4: are on their toes and doing better, making better decisions 941 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 4: for Territorians. 942 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 9: So I'm sure to choose a great candidate from Central Australia. 943 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 4: Yours is from Darwin who works on the fifth floor 944 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 4: for Selena. He's from New South Wales. Yours does not 945 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 4: intend to even move into a. 946 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 5: Smile and a laugh. 947 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 8: Mate, It's all good. 948 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 3: You don't need to be negative about it started. 949 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 4: Just well, I think it's people in glasshouses, your candid. 950 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 5: It's a spin. 951 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 3: Alright, go fasting. 952 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 11: Chris is a spin doctor, tomms spin doctor. 953 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 7: I've taken the mic from her listeners. 954 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 12: Now. 955 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 10: I just think we should go to the bookies and 956 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 10: see what the book is saying. All right, and there's 957 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 10: another one, the territory Fellow bit right, So go to 958 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 10: the bookies and they'll tell you who. 959 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 8: It's going to be very interesting. 960 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 6: I don't know the history, but you guys might. 961 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 11: Has the government ever won a seat back off the 962 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 11: opposition at a by election? 963 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 12: Not sure. 964 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 5: I don't know. 965 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 8: Interesting story. 966 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 9: And it's an interesting seat because it's a hybrid seat, 967 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 9: so it's got bush and that you know, rural makeup, 968 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 9: and it's a seat that's been held by both Labor 969 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 9: and the CLP. But I think Terratorius they want a good, 970 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 9: strong local. 971 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 6: I think it's interesting. 972 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 11: I think that Gary Higgins had a very strong personal 973 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 11: following in that seat, and particularly a very strong personal 974 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 11: following out at what Air and Peppi and Plumper and 975 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 11: so it's going to be interesting to see whether that 976 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 11: vote carries over to the COLP if Gary's not there 977 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 11: on the ground campaigning as he was for Ian Sloan 978 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 11: at the twenty sixth, the last election. 979 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 8: So Arian and Gary campaigning for the c LP LEO. 980 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've been supporting us. So I noticed Michael Gunner 981 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 4: is not campaigning for your own candidate. We haven't seen 982 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 4: Michael Gunner with the anywhere near the candidate, and I 983 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 4: can only assume that's because it's the candidate who threatened 984 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 4: a member of Parliament outside of Parliament, and Michael Gunner 985 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 4: is trying to distance himself. 986 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 7: I'm not sure Michael Gunner knows where the elector of Daily. 987 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 5: I think he does either, I don't think. 988 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 4: I think it's been very interesting to see Michael Gunner 989 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 4: distanced himself from their own candidate. 990 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 11: Remember you remember in the sixteen in the twenty sixteen election, 991 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 11: Michael Dunner and the Labour Red Shirts went to Water 992 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,800 Speaker 11: and spent like three days there with Patrick Dodson and 993 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 11: others trying to win that seat. 994 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 6: Blah blah blah blah blah. 995 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: And they did it. 996 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 11: Interesting signs up on the Saturday morning and. 997 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 3: He still discerning. 998 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 10: What I will say is and you're quite correct. It's 999 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 10: a hybrid seat, you know, bushy done Riverboo springs. 1000 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 8: Correct. 1001 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna have but it's. 1002 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 7: Going to be a very interesting seat. 1003 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 3: And they're discerning. 1004 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 10: Voters table trust about fools, vote for who they believe in. 1005 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 6: Trust him. 1006 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 2: All right, we better wrap up. Leo the Opposition leader, 1007 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 2: thank you for your time this morning. 1008 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 5: Thank you very much everyone. 1009 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 2: Matt Cunningham from Sky News, thanks for joining us today. 1010 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 2: We've got Keezier Puig, thank you very much. The Independent members. 1011 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 10: Katie Coolinger markets are back on this Saturday morning at 1012 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 10: Kolinga or Friends past I should say good stuff. 1013 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 3: And Natasha Philes the Health Minister, thank you. 1014 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 9: A shout out to the Traveling Film Festival. They're lighting 1015 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 9: up all the water towers. People should check that out. 1016 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:01,760 Speaker 3: Awesome. 1017 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 2: You are listening to Mix one oh four point nine's 1018 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 2: three point sixty. 1019 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 3: That was the week that was