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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning. Good morning, how are

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Speaker 1: you going.

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Speaker 2: We're very well. We were just talking about the number

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Speaker 2: spike that they've had in Victoria. I know that doctor

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Speaker 2: Fauci in the States has said they're not in their

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Speaker 2: second wave, they are still in their first wave. Are

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Speaker 2: we in our second waiver or is this still the first.

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Speaker 1: I think if you ask Victorians, they'd probably say it's

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Speaker 1: a second wave. I think we kind of got to

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Speaker 1: the point where where the second wave really comes. After,

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Speaker 1: you know, the majority of restrictions are lifted, everybody gets

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Speaker 1: back out into the community, we start doing things normally,

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Speaker 1: and then we see that a sort of spike again,

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Speaker 1: which they saw in South Korea and they saw in China.

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Speaker 1: I guess we started to ease some restrictions around the

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Speaker 1: country and in different states, and seeing these spikes back

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Speaker 1: up in the sort of double figure cases in Victoria.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to say. I mean, it could be the

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Speaker 1: first first plus a little bit, but it might be

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Speaker 1: end up being defined as the second wave, and over

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Speaker 1: time we'll try to figure that out.

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Speaker 2: And the probably does it make a difference whether how

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Speaker 2: we treat it, if it's the first.

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Speaker 1: Or the second no, really, it's exactly the same problem.

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Speaker 1: The problem is that it's as a virus, it's spread

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Speaker 1: very easily between people. That the issue is we gather

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Speaker 1: more information with each of these spikes, knowing, okay, the

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Speaker 1: looser systems that we listed at that point weren't weren't enough.

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Speaker 1: We're seeing the spiking cases, so we need to pull

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Speaker 1: back a little bit. And that's where the whole sort

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Speaker 1: of pulling of the levers within public health gives us

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Speaker 1: the ability to decide what's okay. That means that we

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Speaker 1: can contain it versus what's letting it get a little

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Speaker 1: bit out of control? And it we're learning so much

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Speaker 1: every day.

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Speaker 3: Linda writes, are asymptomatic carriers less contagious? How can anyone

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Speaker 3: carry a deadly virus in their body and have no symptoms?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's a really good question that it's no

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Speaker 1: less or more concacious. It's still the same virus. And basically,

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Speaker 1: symptoms of any disease are your body's reaction to that disease.

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Speaker 1: So everybody immune system has a different response to different bacteria,

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Speaker 1: to different viruses. Some people spike a high fever, other

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Speaker 1: people won't get a fever. At all. Some people get

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Speaker 1: a saw throat, other people won't. And you know, none

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Speaker 1: of not two of us are exactly the same. We're

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Speaker 1: all very different. Our immune systems will respond differently, so

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Speaker 1: whether it's a cold or whether it's the coronavirus, some

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Speaker 1: of us will show symptoms others way. What we're finding

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Speaker 1: is certain age groups tend to be asymptomatic, where other

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Speaker 1: age groups tend to get sicker, and they have those symptoms,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't change anything. An asymptomatic carrier is just

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Speaker 1: as troublesome when it comes to passing it on to

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Speaker 1: other people as somebody who's showing symptoms. The difference is

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Speaker 1: an asymptomatic carrier doesn't know they've got it, so they're

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Speaker 1: tending to do things where someone with symptoms they tend

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Speaker 1: to put themselves away and follow the rule. So it

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Speaker 1: is tricky with the asymptomatic carriers.

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Speaker 3: And if you just social distance, then surely that's going

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Speaker 3: to stop you spreading it around if you don't know

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Speaker 3: you have it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's why those rules are in place. We're going

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Speaker 1: to apply it to everybody because we don't know who's

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Speaker 1: potentially carrying it with those symptoms. Versus the people that

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Speaker 1: have symptom.

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Speaker 3: We're talking this morning about vaping is going to be

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Speaker 3: banned in Australia. Most e cigarettes into the country. The

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Speaker 3: government's going to ban the importation. Is vaping better than

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Speaker 3: smoking cigarettes?

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Speaker 1: Neither one is good and I think that like everything

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Speaker 1: the delivery of a drug like nicotine, whereas far as cigarette,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of the issues that we found

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Speaker 1: with cigarettes is everything else that you have in a

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Speaker 1: cigarette that is carc energetic or cancer causing. And then

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Speaker 1: you start looking at vaping, which is a different delivery

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Speaker 1: system when it tends to hand people get nicotine into

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Speaker 1: their body, but it still carries risks, still carries an

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Speaker 1: increased rate of the delivery of that nicotine and other

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Speaker 1: things that cause the delivery of that burning of that

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Speaker 1: drug increases your risk of diseases in the mouth or throat,

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Speaker 1: of the lungs. So neither one is good, and I

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Speaker 1: think that in the interest of public health. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've always been outspoken advocate of we need to try

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Speaker 1: to minimize the number of people that are smoking all vaping,

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Speaker 1: you know, for everybody's benefit.

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Speaker 3: Because I've heard about that popcorn.

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Speaker 2: On your lungs apparently.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not good. And the other thing it's it's

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Speaker 1: a highly addictive drug nicotine, and we all know that,

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Speaker 1: and it's not a quit or to change. And draping

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Speaker 1: is one of those things where people might feel like

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Speaker 1: they're doing themselves, you know, death. Am I not smoking

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Speaker 1: but I'm facing But again I think we really need

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Speaker 1: to try to encourage people to try to not do either,

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Speaker 1: because that's the best thing you can do for you

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Speaker 1: to your health.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Well, thank you Dr Rochford to bring

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Speaker 2: a script pad. Remember like I asked.

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Speaker 1: You, no, no, it's fine. I'll just send you an

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Speaker 1: E script. How good is that? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Digital, don't avoid that.

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Speaker 3: They didn't come here for this, Dr Andrew. It's all

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Speaker 3: a treat to talk to you. We'll get you next week.

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Speaker 1: Take care, guys.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Andrew.

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Speaker 1: Join the and Amanda in Good Morning One at one point seven.

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