1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: In some good news, Singapore Airlines have announced that they're 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: going to increase their dar and Singapore schedule from five 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: days a week to seven in April next year, marking 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: a return to pre pandemic levels. Now, the Airport Development 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Group spokesperson has told the paper it was welcome news 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: for Darwin's overseas aviation, which remains about forty percent down 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: on average. Now joining us on the line is the 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Minister for Tourism, Nicole Madison. Good morning to your minister. 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Now how many days a week is the service currently operating? 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: So currently it is at five days a week, Katie. 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: And if i'd take your listeners back to pre pandemic 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: and where things are at, we used to have Jetstar 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: and Silk Airlines operating that service, and we certainly had 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: a lot more services at that time. So while we 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: welcome the five days a week going to seven days 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 2: a week from the end of March next year, what 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: we really want to see is is some more airlines 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: also servicing Darwin to Singapore as well as other destinations 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: overseas too in the region, because we know that's going 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: to be great for tourism businesses, but also our really 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: strong and diverse multicultural community than we have here in 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 2: the Northern territory. We have a huge amount of people. 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: For example, if you look in my community where I'm at, 25 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: people a lot of people in Klimnos right now. I've 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: got a huge Indian community from Kerala, lots of people 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: from Pakistan, Sri Lanka. They want to go home, they 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: want to visit their families or have their families come 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 2: visit them too. So this is also good news for 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: them because I hear it loud and clear all the 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: time that, especially if you've got a family, it is 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: really difficult to be able to do those trips. So 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 2: we're working really hard to attract more airline unire Yeah. 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: I agree. You know, it's great that this is happening, 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: and it certainly a step in the right direction, but 36 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: we do need more. We need that connectivity and whether 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about overseas or interstate Man, where are things 38 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: that in terms of the government's ten million dollar aviation 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: attraction scheme that is indeed designed to bring more flights 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: and carriers to the territory. 41 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is exactly what it's about. We're looking for 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: domestic and international connections and increasing them. It's fair to 43 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: say it's definitely peaked interest. We've had airlines in touch 44 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: and we're working through with a few different airlines at 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: the moment with the Airport Development Group. And I've got 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: a stress that the Airport Development Group is a really 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: important player here. You know, it is the landing fees 48 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: and the negotiations these airlines do with them there that 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: often come down to determining whether or not they do 50 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: come to the Northern Territory. So we're at the table 51 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: with them and we've got some financial incentives trying to 52 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: make more airlines choose the Northern Territory as a destination. 53 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: But we are certainly having some real live conversations. Now 54 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: I can't say which airlines and which routes, but all 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: I will say to your listeners is that there are 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: some really very real live conversations at play that I 57 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: believe will deliver lower services the territory. 58 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: And we did catch up with Bonds's CEO just a 59 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and you know, he sounded keen 60 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: as to come to the territory. But as you've just 61 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: touched on, one of those big things was well he'd 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: called it sort of red tape or you know, different 63 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: different restrictions that may be in place, and also those 64 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: fees and charges, So is there any regal room when 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: it comes to some of those fees and charges. So 66 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: this is. 67 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: Where a lot of these negotiations happen. It's just trying 68 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: to find the right deal, the right price to lock 69 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: in the airline depending on what their business model are. 70 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: Bonds are they very much so look at those landing 71 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: fees are very affordable, low cost airline. That's their business model. 72 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: But it does ultimately come down for them about getting 73 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: good landing fees deal. For example, in Queensland where they've 74 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: got a huge aviation attraction fund, that's where all the 75 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: local governments and councils are actually in on that deal 76 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: as well. They own the airport to many of those destinations, 77 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: so they're looking allo for the border interest of their residents, 78 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: their constituents they represent too, and liveability issues as well 79 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: as the tourism does because you know, there's more to 80 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: it to them than just how profitable their airport is. 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: It's about what is the overall economic benefit to the 82 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: whole community. 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: And so when you're looking at the landing fees, for example, 84 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: Is that something that is set by our airport here 85 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: in Darwin or is it something that's set sort of 86 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: by the federal government. 87 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 2: It's a bit of both, because there are certainly different 88 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: federal government issues and regulations that the airport has to 89 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: comply with around security and so forth, which is understandable. 90 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: We pride ourselves and having very safe airports and airlines 91 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: here in this nation. But that comes with the cost 92 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: to be able to regulate and be able to put 93 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: those protections in which ultimately the airlines do need to 94 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: be able to charge in order to be able to 95 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: provide those services. 96 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I spo. That's what I'm getting to is, you know, 97 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: are we in a situation where where we may be 98 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: able to attract the likes of Bonsa or others by 99 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: changing those fees a bit. 100 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: I've made representations to the federal government about that about 101 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: you know, saying look in region Australia where you know, 102 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: and it's not just Northern Territory. It is the hot 103 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: topic around Northern Australia right now, full stop Katie, about 104 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: the airlines and getting them in. But I certainly think 105 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: that you know, there is a room where a federal 106 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: government needs to look more closely at aviation attraction as 107 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: well as airlines rebuilt after COVID two. It's certainly something 108 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: we'd like to see. 109 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I just think it's it's pretty insane 110 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: when you look at the flights, the prices to travel 111 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: into state, even for us within the Northern Territory, it 112 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: is really expensive and that work does Like I hope 113 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: that some work can happen to try to make Australia 114 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: more connectable, but also for us to you know, to 115 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: travel overseas for those people that do have family interstate 116 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: and overseas. 117 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, absolutely it goes to not just tourism 118 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: and business and the economy, it's about libability as well 119 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: for people and for us it's so important because we 120 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: really do pride ourselves on being a multicultural place. Imagine 121 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: what the Northern Territory would be like if we didn't 122 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: have skilled migration. All those amazing families to choose to 123 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: move to the Northern Territory and make a life here 124 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: for their families, but they feel really important jobs here 125 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: in the Northern Territory and provide amazing services that we need. 126 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: And I've just use the healthcare sector as one example 127 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: where we have tradition had a lot of people move 128 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: from the Philippines, a lot of people move from places 129 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: like Carolina and India who just do an amazing job 130 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: providing health care to territories right across the territory. 131 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: Minister, a question from a listener, can you please ask 132 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: Minister Madison, why can't international airlines leave Darwin for Singapore 133 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: in the morning like pre COVID because Singapore airlines leave 134 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: mid afternoon, but now they arrive in Singapore early evening 135 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: after most of those connecting flights have departed. 136 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: That's up to the airline. That's something we have little 137 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: influence on there. But it's one of those things where 138 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: I think most people know now that planes get absolutely 139 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: flogged from the day they start working and they try 140 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: to fly them for as long as they possibly can 141 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: until they need, you know, some scheduled maintenance and those 142 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: types of things. So there are very tight connections, very 143 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: tight slots they call them, that they can get into 144 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: at different airports. And generally, you know an airport like 145 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: Changy and I've here Dampasa as well and Sydney. You know, 146 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: those slots are difficult to get and once they get them. 147 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: You know, it's difficult to change them, so they have 148 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: very For example, like I've contacted Jetstar because during the 149 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: runway work they are going to reduce their services and 150 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to fly for a while to Dampostar and 151 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: I've asked them, you know, look, can you change your 152 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: slots with Tampasa so you can find a way to 153 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: keep going to Balley and what they say bring people 154 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: and from Bali And unfortunately they have said no, and 155 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: that's because again the difficulities they have we're changing their schedules. 156 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: But you know, we will keep we will keep advocating 157 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: and asking the airlines to do the right thing by 158 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: territory Minister? 159 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: Are there are you anticipating like with those with those 160 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: airline works and this is something you and I spoke 161 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: about a few weeks ago with those airline works. Are 162 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: we going to see other flights do this like other 163 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: airlines do the same thing as what Jetstares decided to 164 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: do with that temper Star route. And could we end 165 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: up in a situation where we're struggling to get in 166 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: and out of the territory. 167 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: So my latest briefing this week was no. So far, 168 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: we've only seen jets are being the one service there 169 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: that has moved. However, I'm keeping a close nine in it, Katie. 170 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: I've made it really clear to to Defense and to 171 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: the federal government and the Airblet that we need to 172 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: make sure that those scheduled works are tight as tight 173 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: as possible because we've got minimal disruption on airline services 174 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: and connectivity to the territory. Because it's it's it's something 175 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: we don't want to see any further reduction. So at 176 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: the moment, we know that the airlines con see the schedules. 177 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: They'll be publicly released soon. But the most important thing 178 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: is that the airlines have it, and we're keeping a 179 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: close eye on how they respond. But so far, the 180 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 2: only news and feedback I've had is that it's meant 181 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: the cancelations of that Jetstar Barley service for that period. 182 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hope that is the case, because it will 183 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: be incredibly difficult if it ends up that there's more 184 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: airlines doing the same. And I know that it is 185 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: something that people are really pretty worried about. Minister, just 186 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: a very quick one. I know you're not going to 187 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: tell me which airlines, but how many airlines are you 188 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: in negotiation with at the moment. 189 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: We have had so far as just the starting point 190 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: we're in discussions are two very significant airlines. However, we've 191 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: had many other airlines also expressed in interest to have 192 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: these conversations, So we're continuing to work through that and 193 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: see what opportunities there are. 194 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: So two very significant ones, any idea when we're going 195 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: to have sort of a better underst if they will 196 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: come to operate in the territory. 197 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: Now, I'm hoped soon, Katie. Again, I'm just trying to 198 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: get the best outcome here for territorials, and that is 199 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: getting these deals done. So I'm hoping to have some 200 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: news to be able to report soon. But I don't 201 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: want to put any more pressure on these sensitive negotiations 202 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 2: because I want to get the deals done. 203 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: All right now with the airline works, when do you 204 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: reckon we're going to have a better timeline so that 205 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: we have a better idea what's going to happen or 206 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: if there will be further disruptions if. 207 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 2: We are waiting Defense to release that publicly. However, they 208 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: have been released to airlines and they were released about 209 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: two weeks ago, so they can see them. It's just 210 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: the public information will be going out as soon as 211 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 2: my understanding. 212 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, another quick one. Yesterday we spoke to 213 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: Alex Bruce, the CEO of hospitality here in the Northern Territory, 214 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: and talked more about digital driver's licenses and whether we 215 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: need to convert over to those, Minister, are we any 216 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: close so do that happening? 217 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a body of work that since with 218 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 2: infrastructure planning and logistics and our amazing you know, a 219 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 2: digital and communications department here, we are looking at it 220 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: and seeing what we can get done. I think everybody 221 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: would agree that we just like to take our smart 222 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: device out and we like to be able to use it. 223 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: And having a digital license is certainly something that I 224 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: think everybody wants to happen. So it is something that 225 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: we are certainly looking forwards. You know, I'd certainly want 226 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: those school licenses to still be available to our older 227 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: territorians who might not be you know, people who want 228 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: to be is walking around with a smartphone. 229 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: Yeah as well, Now I thought yesterday, oh yes, we're 230 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: all going to be all for this. I'm keen as 231 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: to get my digital license onto my phone, but not 232 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: everyone felt this. 233 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: Sid, Well, it's the bloody better. But you know, yeah, 234 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 2: some people, some people, not every Smartphones are not cheap 235 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: for everyone, and you know, not everybody wants to use them, 236 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: so you know we're going to make sure we take 237 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: care of everybody here. 238 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely well, Minister for Tourism and Hospitality and also 239 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: the Deputy Chief ministeron Nicole Madison. We will leave it there. 240 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for your time this morning. 241 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thank you.