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Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yr

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Speaker 1: the Order Kerney Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before

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Speaker 1: would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land

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Speaker 1: of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country,

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Speaker 1: acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming

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Speaker 1: through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing

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Speaker 2: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: She's on the Money. She's on the Money.

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the book

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Speaker 2: for millennials who want financial freedom. Now, my friends, it

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Speaker 2: is just me Victoria hanging out solo today to introduce

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Speaker 2: a little bonus episode to you. And the reason I'm

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Speaker 2: doing that is because everybody's got this new year you

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Speaker 2: be a really good New Year's gift for everybody to

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Speaker 2: give you the first chapter of my very first book,

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Speaker 2: She's on the Money. So I'm hoping that this gives

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Speaker 2: this year. Twenty twenty three is going to be a

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Speaker 2: our community to be on exactly the same page. So

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Speaker 2: as a little gift, little bonus episode, I'm dropping this

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Speaker 2: So Happy New Year, my loves, I hope you enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: Chapter one, Everybody's Got a story. Money stories are the

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Speaker 2: subconscious and conscious beliefs and values about money and prosperity

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Speaker 2: that we develop early in our lives, whether we like

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Speaker 2: it or not. They contribute to what we feel is

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Speaker 2: financially possible, and they dictate our behavior. They form the

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Speaker 2: foundation of how we think and communicate or react to money.

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Speaker 2: If conflict around money was a central theme in your upbringing,

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Speaker 2: any conversation about money might start with a stomach ache.

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Speaker 2: If money was in abundance, conversations about money might allow

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Speaker 2: If money was something your parents took care of and

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Speaker 2: empowering use of money is as a way to transform

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Speaker 2: our lives and the lives of others. Money, after all,

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Speaker 2: both in the present and the future. Money is intended

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Speaker 2: for spending, sharing, and investing, nothing more. For something with

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Speaker 2: money can feel wildly complicated and cause an enormous amount

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Speaker 2: of stress. The term money anxiety has been coined non

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Speaker 2: money intended for a reason. Worrying about where your next

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Speaker 2: your credit card debt, or if you can make a

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Speaker 2: and will keep you up at night. When it comes

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Speaker 2: from our families. Gender stereotypes are still wreaking havoc on

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Speaker 2: work with you on your own story. And values. We

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Speaker 2: retail therapy. It's your mind literally trying to soothe itself

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Speaker 2: Take note one, money stories are the subconscious and conscious

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Speaker 2: As much as your money story is defining your habits

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Speaker 2: right now, you absolutely have the capacity to change your trajectory. Three.

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Speaker 2: When we use our values to make decisions, we focus

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Speaker 2: to feel a sense of well being. The advice shared

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Speaker 2: on She's on the Money is general in nature and

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