1 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This podcast is 2 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: for women who want to take ownership of their lives, 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: live unapologetically, and are ready to turn their biggest dreams 4 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: into their reality. If you're ready to be armed with 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: the tools that will inspire take bold action, feel confident 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: within yourself, and conquer your goals, then you've come to 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: the right place. I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. I'm a 8 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: lawyer turned entrepreneur, co founder of Naked Harvest Supplements, and 9 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: social media personality with a community of over three hundred thousand. 10 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: I grew up believing I had to pursue this safe 11 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: option and fit into a mold others had created for me. 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: But then I entered my corporate law job and I 13 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: realized that settling for a reality that did I didn't 14 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: set my soul on fire, was something I was not 15 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: prepared to do. I wanted more, and I have a 16 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: feeling you do too. Join me and special guests weekly 17 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: as we get down to the nitty gritty on all 18 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: things health, mastering your mindset, creating lasting habits, thriving in 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: your career and relationships, plus so much more, and together 20 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: we'll gain the knowledge and perspective to pursue our wildest 21 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: dreams and kick fear to the curb. Well, what are 22 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: you waiting for? Let's rise and conquer. Welcome back to 23 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: the Rise in Conker podcast. In today's episode, I'm sitting 24 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: down with Natalie Ballely, who you may know on Instagram 25 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: as nat be Fit. Nat has recently graduated from a 26 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: degree and health and science, is a gym shark athlete, 27 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: and has her own amazing fitness guides. In our confo, 28 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: Nat tells us how she used to be a slave 29 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: to the cardio machine and how she now listens to 30 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: her body encourages others to do the same. We also 31 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: chat about how diets can compliment our training styles, run 32 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: through what walking is, and touch on a tutive eating. 33 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: Nat also gives us so many refreshing and realistic hacks 34 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: on how to stay motivated to exercise and eat well. 35 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: My favorite thing about chatting with Nat is her attitude 36 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: towards mental health and being more present. Before we get 37 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: into the CONFO, I just wanted to introduce today's episode sponsor, 38 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: Naked Harvest, which is an all natural supplement company I 39 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: co founded. Naked Harvest's goal is to disdropt the subs 40 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: industry with supplements that are all natural and have no nasties, 41 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: but do the job. More on them later, Let's get 42 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: straight into the show. Hey, Nat, welcome to the show. 43 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: Hello, thank you so much for having me. I'm so 44 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: very excited. This is my first podcast and this is 45 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: my favorite podcast to listen to, So this is awesome. 46 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: You are so lovely. Well, I'm so excited. I can't 47 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: believe you haven't been in a podcast before. This is 48 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. 49 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: I really want to start my own, but I haven't 50 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: ever done a podcast before, so this is a real 51 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: good and learning experience for me. 52 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, you have to do it. Once 53 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: we get off the call, i'll give you some information 54 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: if you need anything in regards to starting. But it is, 55 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: it's been like one of my favorite things to do. Well, 56 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: I know you like, you know, all the social media 57 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: side and talking about topics you're passionate about and all 58 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, and yeah, it's been one of 59 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: my favorite like projects to date. 60 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: That would be so fantastic because I feel like I 61 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: have so much to say and I would rather speak 62 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: it than write it. So I feel like this medium 63 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: of social media is very much calling my name. 64 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 65 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: See, I'm the exact same I tried to do like 66 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: the blogging thing, and I have blogs my website and 67 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm not the best writer, Like I 68 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: don't write like beautifully if that makes sense. And so yeah, 69 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: this form of like just speaking has just seen. Yeah, 70 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: definitely get onto it. Okay, well let's get into the show. 71 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: So something I ask all my guests in this current 72 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: season is what season are you in? And so basically 73 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: what I mean by this is just what season are 74 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: you prioritizing right now? 75 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: So I just graduated college, which was a huge life 76 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: change for me, and moving forward, I'm really just learning 77 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: to listen to what my heart and soul are telling 78 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: me to keep developing my character and life that I 79 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: want to pursue, and like, I just really would like 80 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: to work for myself in the future, not somebody who 81 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: really wants a nine to five. So I'm really just 82 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: trying to figure out what exactly that looks like for me, 83 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: and I'm doing my best to learn and listen to 84 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: my intuition. I initially thought that I'd be going to 85 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: grad school at this point in my life, but obviously, 86 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: I've decided not to do that and continue to pursue 87 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: social media fitness coaching and just kind of see where 88 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 2: that takes me. And I'm also trying not to set 89 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: too many expectations for myself because i feel like this 90 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: is the perfect time in my life for a lot 91 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: of self exploration and development, and I'm just doing my 92 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: best to lean into whatever that is, even if it 93 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: is really uncomfortable and unfamiliar, which so far it very 94 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: much has been. 95 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: That is amazing. That's I think that's one of the 96 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: best answers I've ever had. That is awesome. You really 97 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: summed that up too, I know. So you just you 98 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: did just graduate and know you are having a little 99 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: break and going off and seeing some places and giving 100 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: yourself time, which I absolutely love because I really feel 101 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: like there's kind of this thing that people think once 102 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: they graduate, it's like this rush to the next step. 103 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: If that makes sense. 104 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 105 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I love what you're doing. For the listeners 106 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: who aren't familiar with you, can you give us us 107 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: quick snapshot on who Nat is? 108 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 109 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: So, I'm born and raised in Cleveland, Ohio. I just 110 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: graduated from Ohio State with a degree and health science, 111 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: and as far as social media and all of that, 112 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: I posted a lot of workouts online. I am also 113 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: a jym Shark athlete and I work with a few 114 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: other brands, but I'm really just passionate about sharing workouts 115 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: and a lot of mental health tips. I've been dealing 116 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: with a lot of mental health issues and just like 117 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 2: learning how to be more proactive with those since getting 118 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: into college, and I'm just really passionate about helping other 119 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: people learn that they don't have to feel like that 120 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: and that there are tools and resources out there for 121 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: you to make your mind a better place to be. 122 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: I love that, and we're going to get in that 123 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: later in the show, but let's just touch on first. 124 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: So you did say you've just finished your nutrition and 125 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: science degree and to our gymshock athlete, and that's actually 126 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: how I found that online. I found you through the 127 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: gym shack page and I was like, who is this? 128 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: And then like, honestly, since I started following you, I 129 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: just like fell in love with your personality and I 130 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: was like, I really like this person and I don't 131 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: even know her. 132 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 3: So much. 133 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: I feel the exactly way, and I'm like pretty sure 134 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: that I found you through the gym Shark page, either 135 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: gym Shark page or YouTube. I cannot remember which, but 136 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: it was a little bit earlier this year or maybe 137 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: the end of twenty nineteen, and I just love all 138 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: of your posts and obviously this podcast. 139 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. Yeah, so you are a gym 140 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: shock athlete. Can you tell us a little bit about 141 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: your fitness and health journey. 142 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 143 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: So when I was younger, I was very much under 144 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: the impression that because I was a female, the only 145 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: way that I could really work out or lose weight 146 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: was a lot of cardio, and I tortured myself on 147 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: the elliptical and treadmill for years with like little to 148 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: no progress. And actually, growing up, my dad was a 149 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: bodybuilder and we always had like a full gym in 150 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: my basement, so I would watch him lift, and the 151 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: older I got, the more interested I was in that. 152 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: And I did play sports, but I was never like 153 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: the most athletic, but I always loved like the team 154 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: workout aspect of it and just working out, whether it 155 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: was body weight or weightlifting. And then when I went 156 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: to college, which like I said, I was starting to 157 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: deal with a lot of mental health issues that I 158 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: do think that I had before, but was never really 159 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: aware of them when I was younger, and just never 160 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: really found a friend group that I liked in school. 161 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: So I turned to the gym and just spent a 162 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: lot of time there and then started posting my workouts 163 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: online and it kind of just went from there. But yeah, 164 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: I was a slave to the cardio machines for sure, 165 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: and just really don't want other people to feel like 166 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: they have to do that to be into fitness or 167 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: lose weight or just be healthy in general. 168 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: I have like a very very similar sort of backstory 169 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: with you. Sorry, I have a very similar backstory to 170 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: you two with my fitness and health journey. And can 171 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: you just go in a little bit more about your 172 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: philosophy behind fitness and health. Like you said, you're not 173 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: interested in it being all cardio and you're not interested 174 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: in fad diets. I know that for a fact from 175 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: your content. So what does your relationship with fitness and 176 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: health look like right now? 177 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 178 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely so. Honestly, it is really evolving at this point 179 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: in my life. Before I was pretty much strictly in 180 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: the weight room, just lifting weights because I loved it 181 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: so much. But the more time goes on, the less 182 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: and less that appeals to me just doing that by itself. 183 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 2: I've recently, within the past couple of years, really fallen 184 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: in love with yoga, and the more I do it, 185 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: the more I experience the benefits and just cannot say. 186 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: Better hold on that does not make sense. 187 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: The more I do it, the more I love it, 188 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: And I'm just really seeing benefits in all aspects of 189 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: my life there. And I just want to encourage other 190 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: people to move their body in a way that feels 191 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 2: good for them, not necessarily what they're seeing online from 192 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: some girl that they really enjoy following. I know that's 193 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: a really easy trap to fall into, but I just 194 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: want to encourage others and also just really encourage myself 195 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: to find what work for me, because our lives are 196 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: always changing, which means our balance and the way we 197 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: move our bodies should be changing with that. So I 198 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 2: guess that's just kind of my philosophy. Don't try to 199 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: stick to one thing, tried new things and just see 200 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 2: how your body responds, and it should be a way 201 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: to express and develop yourself in a way that you 202 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: wouldn't have been able to otherwise. 203 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: I love that and what did you find? So when 204 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: you kind of stopped doing the cardio and you found 205 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: the love of weight training, can you sort of explain 206 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: to the audience what are the benefits of weight training? 207 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 208 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely, definitely for newbelifters. I experienced this. A lot of 209 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: my clients experience this. Friends, if you're a newbelifter, you're 210 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: definitely going to lose some weight, which is what most 211 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: of us are trying to strive for with the whole 212 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: cardio machine thing. And obviously you're increasing your muscle mass, 213 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: which allows you to eat more because the common misconception 214 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: that muscle weighs less than fat. 215 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 3: Or weighs more than fat. I don't even know what 216 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: it is. 217 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 2: That makes no sense to me, because a pound is 218 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: a pound, is a pounds a pound, so that's not 219 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: really a thing. But the more muscle mass you have, 220 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: the more calories your body burns at rest. So it's 221 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: a great way to increase your metabolism and start eating more, 222 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: which was definitely a benefit for me. I felt like 223 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: I was always trying to do cardio and minimize the 224 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: amount of food I was eating, and when I first 225 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: started tracking my macros in lifting weights, I was honestly 226 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: surprised how much I could eat while still losing weight 227 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: over time. And then obviously you're developing strength, so you'll 228 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: have you'll be stronger and more functional for your daily activities, 229 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: and I find that my energy levels are much higher. 230 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: And just seeing your body change over time, like those 231 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: results just give you such a self confidence that really 232 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: just keeps you going. It really is motivating to see 233 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: your body change with all the things that you're doing. 234 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: I love that, and you're so right. I think when 235 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: I figured out like all those things that you said 236 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: with weight training, I was like, oh my god, what 237 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: have I been doing for the last couple of years. 238 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: So thank you for sharing that. Yeah, and I did 239 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: just want to touch on quickly before we move on 240 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: to the diet sort of side of things. I completely 241 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: agree what you said about not kind of getting too 242 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: stuck in the you know, what sort of exercise you 243 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: should be doing, because I got really cut up in 244 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: the like you, it was like all cardio and like 245 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: losing weight exercises, and then I started weight training. But 246 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: then I also got stuck in weight training where I 247 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: was like, I can't do anything else because weight training 248 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: is the superior exercise, whereas now it's like sometimes I 249 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: like doing body weight, sometimes I like lifting heavy, and 250 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: sometimes I like doing cardio, and it really sort of 251 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: depends on my energy levels and my mood and how 252 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: my body's feeling, rather than feeling like I have to 253 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: do something specifically. 254 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 255 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And that is something that definitely has taken me 256 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: a lot of time to learn, and I think I'm 257 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: still learning that because there are days where I'm like 258 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: I need to be doing this and my boy, You're like, no, stop, 259 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: don't do that. So yeah, that's definitely an ongoing battle 260 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: for me, but I can definitely relate. 261 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And like you said, like it's not 262 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: an end destination, it's something we are constantly evolving and 263 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: learning and our body is constantly changing. So I wanted yeah, absolutely, sorry, 264 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: I want to switch gears and chat about the sort 265 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: of diet side of things before we get on into 266 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: sort of non related fitness and health questions. But how 267 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: can diet complement your training? So for example, we go 268 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: through you know, bulking, and what diet would complement this 269 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. 270 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely So, regardless of what your goals are, diet 271 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 2: entering definitely go hand in hand. But bulking is kind 272 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,359 Speaker 2: of the idea of adding mass to your body, preferably 273 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,239 Speaker 2: muscle mass, but fat gain is inevitable within that process. 274 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: But a bulking diet general looks like just increasing your 275 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: calories slowly over time. That doesn't mean wake up one 276 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: morning and eight two thousand calories more than you did 277 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: the day before for the next couple months. You want 278 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: to slowly increase it over time, like one hundred to 279 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: two hundred calories a week for ideally like four to 280 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: nine months, depending on how long of a bulking season 281 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: you want to be in. The longer you are, obviously, 282 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: the more time your body has to develop that mass 283 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: while applying progressive overload into the gym. So I guess 284 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: that's kind of where the training aspect comes into this. 285 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: Progressive overload basically just means that you are increasing the 286 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: volume of what you're lifting over time, so sets weights 287 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: or sets reps and weight, But most of your calorie 288 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: increase should be coming from carbs to give your body 289 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: that extra energy it needs to grow. And then I 290 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: kind of within this got really stuck in. Oh, I 291 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: have to hit this macro like I have to hit 292 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: these numbers every single day, or I'm not going to 293 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: see progress. You need to be patient with your body 294 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: and listen to what it's telling you, because sometimes it's 295 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: telling you to stop or slow down or speed up, 296 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: like it wants more food. So just kind of being 297 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: a little bit more intuitive, I think you can intuitively 298 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: eat while also tracking macros. 299 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: It's kind of a what's the right word. 300 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: It's kind of a challenge to balance, but over time 301 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: it gets easier to just listen to your body and 302 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: figure out how to respond accordingly. 303 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: And sir, I know that you're an intuitive eater like me, 304 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: How did you sort of and I know you, like 305 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: you said you did do the macros and you still 306 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: kind of go hand in hand. How did you discover 307 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: intuitive eating? And what does that sort of approach look 308 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: like for you? 309 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: So I guess a couple years ago, this really started 310 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: to blow up all over the internet and I would 311 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: see videos on YouTube or like influencers that I followed 312 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: talking about intuitive eating and I'm like, that kind of 313 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: sounds dumb, Like they were like, oh, you just eat 314 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: when you're hungry, Like, yeah, no, dull, you eat when 315 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: you're hungry. But over this past winter, I was really 316 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: just feeling like tracking macros was a chore, And a 317 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: little back story on that. I've been tracking macros for 318 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: roughly six years on and off pretty consistently, so I 319 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: can kind of look at a plate of food and 320 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: know what I'm about to start eating. But this past 321 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: winter it really just started to feel like a chore 322 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: as opposed to something I really wanted to do to 323 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: meet my goals. So I decided that intuitive eating would 324 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: be the best way to continue to nourish my body 325 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: with healthy foods without feeling tied to constantly like putting 326 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: numbers into my phone. And also, I felt like at 327 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: the time that I decided I wanted to start stop 328 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: tracking macros, I was attempting to bulk and I literally 329 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: just felt like I was force feeding myself and it 330 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: was really unenjoyable and I was super sluggish and just 331 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: not feeling my best. So I think that was also 332 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: like one of those things where you kind of have 333 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: to listen to your body and it's telling you to 334 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: stop doing that. And it was a bit of a 335 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: difficult transition at first because I was like, Ooh, I 336 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: don't have to track my macros. I can just eat 337 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: like crap. But after a few weeks, I became a 338 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: little bit more aware that that was not making me 339 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: feel very good. And it really just came down to 340 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: listening to my body telling me it was time to eat. 341 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: And then also another thing that I learned and I'm 342 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: still really working on, is remaining mindful after I've eaten 343 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: a meal to see if what I just actually energized 344 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: me and made me feel better or if it really 345 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: just made me feel more sluggish, and then adjusting my 346 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 2: meal portions, ingredients or just like what I'm actually eating 347 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: based on how my body is responding to what I'm eating. 348 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: But it's definitely something I'm still learning and working. 349 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: On one hundred percent. And like we were kind of 350 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: saying with the training thing, it is sort of this 351 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: thing that evolves and you have to keep listening to 352 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: your body and keep changing things. But I love as 353 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: sort of your approach and what you're doing, just how 354 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: you're listening to your body. I wanted to ask you, so, 355 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: what would your advice be to I guess the newbie 356 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: who you know, they want to start training, maybe they 357 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: want to start weight training, maybe they you know, have 358 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: some body sort of goals. What would your advice be 359 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: to the new bee who is prioritizing their health and fitness. 360 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, so. 361 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: I would say my first and biggest tip would be 362 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: follow people online who post workouts, because I'm on my 363 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: phone all day long. If it's on my feed, I'm 364 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: going to be paying attention to it. So find a 365 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: couple people that you really like and that their goals 366 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: kind of align with yours. You can start following somebody 367 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 2: of their workouts. And when you're a newbie, you don't 368 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: really need to be on like a strict program to 369 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: see legitimate results. So just setting goals that are realistic 370 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: to you. I know that that is something that I 371 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: struggle with. I always set my expectations so high, and 372 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: when I fall short, I'm so disappointed. So start small. 373 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: Just make little changes. Start working out one or two 374 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: days a week. Try to change one meal up, eat 375 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: a little bit healthier, have some more vegetables. That is 376 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: something I need to tell myself. Drink some more water, 377 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: and a great way to if you're really not in 378 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: the at all or doing much physical activity, a great 379 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 2: way to just start or spark some weight loss would 380 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 2: be go on a walk. Try to hit a step 381 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 2: goal every single day. Or yeah, just make small little goals. 382 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: Don't try to like overhaul your whole life and stop 383 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 2: eating junk food and going to the gym twice a day, 384 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: seven days a week, like it's really just going to 385 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 2: make you fall flat on your face. 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So you said that you're in a 428 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: season of learning to give yourself a break, cannot be 429 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: so focused of checking everything off your to do list. 430 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: And in that post, you also said that you know 431 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: you often feel pressure to be doing more and posting 432 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: more and sharing more, and you want to start, you know, 433 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: being and focus less on doing. Can you kind of 434 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more about this post and 435 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: what it kind of feels like for you at the moment. 436 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 437 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So, Like I said, I just graduated college, so 438 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: I'm going from a long to do list that is 439 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 2: being assigned to me by my teachers to pretty much nothing. 440 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: And I'm also on a road trip right now, so 441 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: that has been super super helpful for me to stay 442 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: off my phone because I don't really have service and 443 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: I'm less interested in what's going on on social media 444 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 2: when I'm surrounded by all this beautiful scenery. But in 445 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: a normal day in my life, it really just means 446 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: minimizing my to do list. Instead of five to six things, 447 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,239 Speaker 2: pick three to four that are a little bit more 448 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: enjoyable to me. And also something that really has been 449 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: helping me is giving myself time for silence and solitude 450 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: every single day, even if I'm not meditating, even if 451 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm just like cleaning my room. I do have roommates 452 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: back at school, so just not being in their presence 453 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: really helps me. And also paying less attention to what 454 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: other people are sharing on social media. It is really 455 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: easy for me to fall into the trap of getting 456 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: caught up in somebody else's life and what they're achieving 457 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: at the moment, and it's really hard for me to 458 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: come back from that kind of negative self talk that 459 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: I'm not doing as much or as well as somebody else, 460 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: and just kind of being mindful about what media I'm 461 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: consuming and how it makes me feel, whether it's social 462 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: media or news or. 463 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: Anything like that. 464 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: Just really being more mindful about my surroundings and how 465 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 2: they make me feel. 466 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I really resonated with that post, 467 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: and I know that in a different post you were 468 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: kind of chatting to your followers and you were just 469 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: explaining that you know, you have taken some time away 470 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: and you really appreciate the patience for you know, posting 471 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: lists and posting less workouts and whatnot. And I wanted 472 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: to sort of ask you, like, do you often feel 473 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: feel a pressure that? And it's funny because I resonate 474 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: with this and I feel the same. And it's not 475 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: like there's some real written that says we have to 476 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: post two workouts a week or this and that and whatnot. 477 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: But do you feel a pressure to be you know, 478 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: posting content and keeping up with other people who are 479 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: posting sorry content and how do you sort of cope 480 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: with that? 481 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 482 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: I absolutely do. It is really hard for me. I 483 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: honestly use the mute button on Instagram so much when 484 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: somebody else has post oping overwhelming me. And it's not 485 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: in a way that I'm like, ooh, I don't like 486 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: that person, They're bothering me. It's just like, okay, that 487 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: is making me not feel really good in my head 488 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: right now and really making me feel pressured for something 489 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 2: that I should not feel pressured to do. But I 490 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: definitely feel that a lot. And also just the fact 491 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: that people want to follow my life and give me 492 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: their time of day and their support and encourage me, 493 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 2: and it really makes me want to provide something that 494 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 2: is useful to them. And so when i'm not I 495 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: always want to express the fact that I'm grateful that 496 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: people are still sticking around and watching my stuff and 497 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: sending me really nice messages. 498 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: But it can be really hard. 499 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying I encourage you to unfollow or 500 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 2: mute people that you're friends with, but sometimes, like even 501 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 2: people that I keep up with regularly, when I see 502 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 2: their posts constantly all the time, it really gets me 503 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: going in my head that I'm not doing enough, or 504 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: I'm not trying hard enough, or they're doing better than me, 505 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 2: and I kind of make it like this competition in 506 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: my head, even though it really isn't. Social media is 507 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: really hard because it's all via or most of it 508 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: is via a phone screen. Like the people that I follow, 509 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: I've met a handful of them in real life, maybe 510 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: once or twice, but we're not like best friends that 511 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: I see every single day, and I can talk about 512 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 2: the fact that their posts are kind of triggering me 513 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: to do or feel some type of way. So I 514 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: really just try to minimize the amount of interaction I 515 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: have on social media, not in a mean way, like 516 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to bash on, but it is something 517 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 2: that I really have to be mindful of. I wish 518 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 2: it wasn't it didn't affect me so much, but it 519 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: really does. So it's something that I'm just again becoming 520 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 2: more mindful over time and making sure that I'm not 521 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: viewing things that really put me in a bad headspace. 522 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: And I could not agree enough and like you said, 523 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: like it's not like this nasty thing where you're like, 524 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't stand this person's content, but 525 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: it is one hundred percent. And I definitely encourage the 526 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: audience if you know something is happening on social media 527 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: where it kind of makes you feel like crap, like 528 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: you just like you're like, oh like that content, just 529 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: like it does not have a positive effect on me, 530 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: that you do go and be proactive and mute them. 531 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: And I think also sometimes for me, it's like almost 532 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: a season I'm in where I'm like, oh, I just 533 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: I can't consume this content right now, Like I will, 534 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: you know, go and unmute this person because I do 535 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: enjoy them as a person, but just right now I 536 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: need to be almost like selfish and do what's best 537 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: for me. 538 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 539 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that is something I am constantly working on and 540 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: really have become a lot more aware of in the 541 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: past like six months to a year. Just because I 542 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 2: enjoy somebody as a person doesn't mean I always need 543 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: to be consuming what they're putting online because it can 544 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: be a little bit triggering for me. Not even in 545 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: terms of like, oh that's making me anxious, it's just like, oh, 546 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 2: my gosh, they're doing way better than me, or they're 547 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: doing more than me and I'm behind, when really you're 548 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: not nobody. You're you should be working to better yourself, 549 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 2: not be better than somebody else. 550 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: Yes, And there's like there's no timelines, Like I said, 551 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: it's not like there's this, you know of imaginary rule 552 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: of having to post this amount of time or having 553 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 1: to do this before a certain age or all that 554 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: sort of thing. It's like unrealistic expectations that we put 555 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: on ourselves which we then can take off ourselves. 556 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that is something that I really get caught 557 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: up in the age thing because my twenty second birthday 558 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 2: is later this week, and I look at people who 559 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: are like in their late twenties, early thirties that are 560 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: so successful and doing so well and like something that 561 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: I would really like to be in their position. And 562 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, they're way ahead of the game, 563 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: like they've really got this whole thing down. 564 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, yeah, but they're. 565 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: Also like five to ten years older than me, Like 566 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: this is ridiculous. I need to calm down. 567 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: It's so funny. I feel the exact same way. So 568 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: thank you for touching on that. I want to chat 569 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 1: a little bit more about your mental health. So you 570 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: did sort of chat about at the start that this 571 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: has been a process and you have had mental health 572 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: issues that you have been dealing with. I can you 573 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: sort of go into that if you feel comfortable and 574 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: explain what your relationship with your mental health looks like. 575 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 576 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely. So when I went away to college, I actually 577 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: went to a different university my freshman year than Ohio State, 578 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: and I really loved my roommate, but I did not 579 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: vibe with a lot of the people at that school, 580 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: and it was really weird for me because I felt 581 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: like my whole life I was a very much a 582 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: people person and always had like a big friend group 583 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 2: and a lot of friends around me, and so I 584 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: was very lonely, and like I said, I was pretty 585 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: far away from home. I had just started dating my 586 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: current boyfriend and we were four and a half hours away, 587 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: so I just felt really isolated and alone. And that's 588 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: when my anxiety and depression really kicked in. And for 589 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: that entire freshman year of college, I didn't even realize 590 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: I was really dealing with any mental health issues. I 591 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: just thought I was crazy. I thought I was hormonal. 592 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 2: I didn't know what was wrong with me. But I 593 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: ended up transferring schools, and I thought that that was 594 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: really just going to make all my problems go away, 595 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: like I was going to magically become friends with everybody 596 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 2: that I came in contact with, and I was going 597 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: to be all happy and dandy. And I got there, 598 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: and I did make a few friends, but not too many. 599 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: And then second semester of my sophomore year of college, 600 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: I had like a full blown panic attack when my 601 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: dad dropped me off at school and I did not 602 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: know what was happening. I was like, I'm going crazy, 603 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: Like somebody needs to take me to the mental hospital. 604 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on. 605 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: And so my roommates, who both had some mental health 606 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: issues as well. Were like, it's okay, Everything's going. 607 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: To be fine. 608 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: And I ended up going to the like student Services 609 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: for mental health and started seeing a therapist, and that 610 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: was probably the biggest help for me in terms of 611 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: like getting the ball rolling with me understanding that I 612 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: really was experiencing anxiety and depression. And then from there 613 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, fix me. I want to go 614 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: in here and give me some medicine and fix me up, and. 615 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: I'll be on my way. 616 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: And it was not long after that that I realized 617 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: that's not really how this all works. And once I 618 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: realized that, I kind of accepted it and was like, Okay, 619 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: I'm really going to make this my mission to do 620 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: the things that I need to do to better myself. 621 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: And once I started doing the little things, I really 622 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: did start to see improvements. And I was like, well, geez, 623 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: I have this platform and people are listening to me. 624 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: This is a really important thing that I think a 625 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: lot of other people are experiencing and I want to 626 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: talk about because I have the personal experience with it, 627 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: and I'm starting to learn and do things that are 628 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: making me feel better. 629 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: That's amazing and It's funny because when you were chatting 630 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: about your experience, I just resonate with that so much. 631 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: And specifically when you said how you started seeing the 632 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: psychologist and you were like, just fix me. I get 633 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: I have a problem just fixing, because I was the 634 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: exact same way, and I was like, I went and 635 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: saw my psychologist, and I remember the first couple of sessions, 636 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: I was almost like annoyed because I was like, we're 637 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: not getting anywhere. This is not like happening fast enough, 638 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: which is just and I I came to realize, much 639 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: like you, that it's like it takes time and it's 640 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: not this quick fix. And it's also being okay with that, 641 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: I think because for a long time I was like, Yep, 642 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: if there's a problem, fix it onto the next thing. 643 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: If that makes. 644 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: Sense, Yeah, absolutely. 645 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: And it's also really opened my eyes to the fact 646 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: that most other people are experiencing this on some level 647 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: and like not necessarily that it's your job to fix them, 648 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: but just being aware of that and other people makes 649 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: my interactions and my relationships so much healthier because I'm 650 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: so much less harsh, like, oh, that person just said 651 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: something that really. 652 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: Ticked me off, and blah blah blah. 653 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, well they've got their own stuff going 654 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: on inside of their head, and so do I, and 655 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: I need to be respectful of that if I want 656 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: them to be respectful of that towards me. 657 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: I love that and that, Yes, it's so true because 658 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: like you said that most people are going through not 659 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: necessarily something similar, but mental health issues in general. And 660 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: so I love that you did decide to share with 661 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: your audience, and that's something similar that I try to do, 662 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: Like when I do have my psychologists appointment, Like I'll 663 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: often just like pop on my stories and be like, hey, 664 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: going to scenes going to see the psychologist, just because 665 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: I think there can be a lot of stigma, and 666 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: I think even growing up, I had a lot of 667 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: like I guess, like negative feelings. Like in my family, 668 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: no one really talked about mental health, and if someone 669 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, was seeing a psychologist, it was almost seen 670 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: as like this bad thing and they were like broken, 671 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: And so I had a lot of fear about getting help. 672 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: But then once I did get help and realized that 673 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: like it wasn't a big deal and it was so 674 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: healthy and lots of people do it. Yeah, A big 675 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: focus of mine is sort of breaking that stigma because yeah, 676 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: like you said, like, we're all going through stuff, and 677 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 1: I think we go through seasons where it is worse 678 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: than other. 679 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree. And I guess that going back 680 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: to what I was saying earlier, like my freshman year, 681 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: I didn't really understand what was going on. That probably 682 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: sounds dumb to a lot of people, And honestly, I 683 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: look back and I'm like, how did I not realize that? 684 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: But growing up, nobody talked to me about that stuff, 685 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: Like if I thought if you were depressed, you were suicidal, 686 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: Like there was no like you're just moderately. You're having 687 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: a hard time grasping what's going on in your life 688 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: right now. And honestly, the older I get, the more 689 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: I realize there is not a single person I know 690 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: that could not benefit from seeing a therapist, Like, not 691 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: one person big. 692 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 3: Or in your life. I often. 693 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 2: It's so wild, Like now that I go, I'm like, 694 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 2: and it's not like I'm trying to force other people 695 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: into it, but I'm like, Wow, you could really benefit 696 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: from a therapist right now. 697 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I feel the exact same way. Do 698 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: you want to just touch on what has helped you 699 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: with coping with your anxiety and depression? Do you have 700 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: any tips for the audience. 701 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would definitely say therapy was the big 702 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: push I needed to see that I was dealing with 703 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: a lot of these mental health issues. And then once 704 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: I kind of accepted that I was similar to you, 705 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 2: where like the first couple sessions, I'm like, all right, lady, 706 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: fix me up, let's go. I want to get out 707 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 2: of here. But once I kind of realized this was 708 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 2: going to be a long term life thing, it really 709 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: allowed me to use the new techniques that they were 710 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: teaching me, like new techniques and tools to manage what 711 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: I'm feeling. But I would say that my daily practices 712 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 2: have probably made the biggest impact. Meditation was really a 713 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: struggle struggle for me at first, but it's now one 714 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: of the first things I do when I start to 715 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: feel that chaotic energy in my mind and body that 716 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 2: I identify as my anxiety. And I also think journaling 717 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: has been so beneficial for me to work through some 718 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: of the negative narratives I have in my head about 719 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 2: myself and the world and just like what's going on 720 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 2: in my day. 721 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 3: I try to journal every day. 722 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that that always happens, but 723 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 2: for the most part, I do. But it's a really 724 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 2: great way for me to just check in with how 725 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 2: I'm feeling and what's going on in my head, because 726 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: a lot of the times I'm just so go, go, go, 727 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 2: go go, especially when I was in school, I didn't 728 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: really stop to pause and ask myself, like, how are 729 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: you doing today? Are you okay? Or do we need 730 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 2: to slow this down and start over? But yeah, if 731 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 2: I'm anxious, journaling really helps me work through the issue 732 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 2: at hand and shows me that it's either not as 733 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 2: dramatic or big of a deal as I am making 734 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: it out to be in my mind. 735 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I love that and such good tips, And I 736 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: love what you kind of said about the routines because 737 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: I'm much the same where I was in a sort 738 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: of severe state. The therapy was definitely needed for me, 739 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: but I find that my daily rituals are almost like 740 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: proactive in helping me sort of not get to that point. 741 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: I still see a psychologist every second week, but like, yeah, 742 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: my daily meditation and journaling, it's almost like instead of 743 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: waiting until I feel so anxious and then I go 744 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: and do those things. I'll do those things and it 745 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: sort of yeah, like is proactive about helping my anxiety. 746 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw this tweet one time that was like 747 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 2: eighty percent of the work for your mental health is 748 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 2: outside of the therapist office. Like, yes, that is a 749 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 2: great thing to do, and they are professionals and they're 750 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 2: going to show you how to better yourself. But it's 751 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 2: not like they're just going to give you a band 752 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: aid and slap it on and you're going to walk 753 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 2: out fine. It's something that you really need to practice 754 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 2: yourself and be disciplined in and it is hard to do, 755 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 2: but just kind of like the fitness thing, make small 756 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: little changes. Try to meditate for like three to five 757 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 2: minutes a day, or journal in the morning for two 758 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 2: minutes about how you're feeling or how you want your 759 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 2: day to go or something that is upsetting you. And 760 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: it's kind of like it's not one size fits all 761 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 2: or there's not one way to do it, Like there's 762 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 2: not just one journal prompt you have to use forever, 763 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 2: or there's not one form of meditation that. 764 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 3: You have to use forever. 765 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: It's kind of always evolving based on your needs and 766 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 2: the more that you do those things. The more in 767 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 2: tune with your body you're going to be, the more mindful, 768 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 2: and the more you're going to be able to like 769 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 2: make those changes that are necessary for whatever season you're 770 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 2: moving into. 771 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: Yes, that was perfect. Could not agree more. One of 772 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: my lasts I wanted to chat to you about is 773 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: I spiritual? And if you are, can you tell us 774 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: a little bit about it? And this is it's funny. 775 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: I popped this in because like, I don't usually you know, 776 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: ask fee for this, but I had this like feeling 777 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: from your content that you almost at the beginning or 778 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, do you want to touch on that? 779 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 780 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 2: So I grew up going to church every single Sunday. 781 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: I was raised Lutheran. My mom would always take us 782 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: to church, and I just kind of sat there and 783 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 2: I was like, when is this. 784 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 3: Going to be over? 785 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 2: Like I am not really resonating with anything this guy 786 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 2: is saying. And I'm not hating on anybody who's religious, 787 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: but that is just not something that ever really resonated 788 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 2: with me. So once I graduated high school, we my 789 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: mom would still go to church, but she wasn't like 790 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 2: waking me up on Sunday mornings to really go. So 791 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 2: I kind of just straight away from it and I 792 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 2: didn't really think about it. And the more into my 793 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 2: mental health journey I got, the more I realized, like, wait, 794 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 2: this is a thing, just maybe not necessarily the way 795 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 2: I was being taught. And last summer I went through 796 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 2: a pretty big I would consider my first spiritual awakening, 797 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 2: and honestly, as like enlightening as that sounds, it was 798 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 2: really rough, Like it was a really harsh reality for 799 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 2: me to wake up to and just seeing how all 800 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 2: of the things in my life, the things that I 801 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 2: don't even really think about, how they affect me at 802 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: a mental, physical, and spiritual level. So yeah, it's something 803 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 2: that I'm really working on. I would say last summer 804 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 2: was my first like big eye opening experience to that, 805 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 2: and it lasted probably into like the middle of the fall, 806 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 2: and then this winter. It's just kind of like learning 807 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 2: how to integrate all of those things into my life. 808 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 2: And I think that I may be on the cusp 809 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 2: of another just with all of the changes in my 810 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 2: life going on. Once I'm home from this road trip, 811 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 2: I'm moving away from school and hopefully I was actually 812 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 2: just looking at apartments today, so hopefully moving into my 813 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 2: first apartment by myself, and like, I really think I 814 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: just need that energy being alone and figuring out who 815 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 2: I am, what I want to do, And honestly, having 816 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 2: an Instagram platform makes it almost easier for me because 817 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 2: I love talking and sharing with other people like that 818 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 2: is really therapeutic for me. So I really just like 819 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 2: sharing and encouraging others to explore those things within themselves. 820 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: I love that. And do you feel comfortable sort of sharing? 821 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: You did mention your spiritual awakening, Like what did that 822 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: look like for you? 823 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty It was a very rude awakening, 824 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 2: I would say, just realizing that like my little lazy 825 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 2: habits were really just not serving me, and just honestly 826 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: just coming to the realization that like I am responsible 827 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 2: for that. It's nobody else's responsibility to tell myself to 828 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 2: be better or do better or try harder or take 829 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 2: initiative to do this or the other thing. And yeah, 830 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 2: that was a really harsh reality because I would consider 831 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 2: myself a fairly privileged child, Like my childhood was not 832 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: really in terms of other people's lives, so it kind 833 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 2: of I'm not saying that everything was handed to me 834 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 2: on a silver platter. 835 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 3: But I was kind of I grew up in a 836 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 3: little bit of a bubble. 837 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 2: So just realizing that, like I have to take the 838 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 2: own initiative and work for what I want to do, 839 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: and if I want my mental health to be better, 840 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 2: I have to put forth the effort every single day, 841 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 2: and also just becoming more aware of the like mind 842 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 2: body spirit connection that we all have. 843 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 3: And I saw this quote one time that was like, 844 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 3: you're not how does it go? 845 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 2: You are a spiritual being in a human body, like 846 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: you are taking human life on this planet, but at 847 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: your essence, you are a spiritual being. And I just 848 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 2: would never want to live my life not experiencing that 849 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 2: spiritual aspect that we all have as human beings, Like 850 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 2: we all have a soul, we all have a spirit, 851 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 2: And I just see so many people, specifically like older 852 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 2: adults in my life, just never tapping into that within themselves. 853 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 2: And like I said, it is not a pretty process, 854 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 2: Like there is a lot of ugliness to it in 855 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 2: facing those realities yourself. 856 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 3: But yeah, just the fact that that exists, I. 857 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 2: Don't know how you couldn't want to explore that and 858 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 2: learn more about yourself at that level. It is a 859 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 2: scary and weird thing, but once you start it is 860 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 2: kind of like an addicting process. You're like, oh my gosh, 861 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 2: this is so amazing. I'm learning so much about myself 862 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 2: and I can think freely and I don't have to 863 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 2: do what other people tell me to do. But you 864 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 2: also have that responsibility to decide those things for yourself. 865 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: That is so interesting. I love that quote. When you 866 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: said it, I was like bit mind blowned there and 867 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: I could not agree more. I really love what you 868 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: said about Yeah, like if we all have this spiritual side, 869 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: like why wouldn't we want to explore it and uncover 870 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 1: it and evolve it. 871 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it would literally be like you have a physical 872 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 2: body and you have your mind. It would be like 873 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 2: never using your physical body your whole life, lying in 874 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 2: a bed, Like why would you do that? Don't you 875 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 2: want to go out and exercise and move and experience 876 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 2: the world? That's kind of like the same thing. Don't 877 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 2: you want to exercise that spiritual essence in yourself and 878 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 2: just see the world in a new way. Like I said, 879 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to make it sound like this is 880 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: the most horrible thing that has ever happened to me, 881 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 2: because so much good has come out of it, and 882 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 2: I see the world and I'm much better and just 883 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 2: like a more broad perspective and it's always ever evolving. 884 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 2: But if I never would have exercised that, my worldview 885 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 2: would be so one dimensional. Yeah, there's just so much 886 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 2: information out there that I feel like we're never taught 887 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 2: in school and that really we all have the capabilities 888 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 2: of experiencing and learning and growing from It's like, why 889 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,959 Speaker 2: would you not do that? I guess because most people 890 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 2: don't even realize that that's even an option, which is 891 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 2: what I want to share on social media, like, hey guys, 892 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 2: you don't have to feel sad all the time, or 893 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 2: you don't have to feel like your life is just 894 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 2: like go to work, get a job, have kids, then retire. 895 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 2: Like there's so much more to it than that, and 896 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 2: I just wish that more people would understand that. 897 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 1: I love that. That is awesome. Well, thank you for 898 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: chatting a bit about that. Before we wrap up the interview, 899 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: I do have one last question. But before that last question, 900 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: I did want to ask you, so, what are your 901 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: next steps now that you've graduated? So you did just 902 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: mention you're hopefully going to get an apartment to yourself. 903 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: Is there anything else that we can have a sneak 904 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: peek about. 905 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 2: I'm currently on a road trip and then when i 906 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 2: return home at the beginning of July, apartment hunting for 907 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 2: real starts, and I'll be super close to my parents 908 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 2: in my hometown, which is also where my boyfriend is 909 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 2: finishing up college and we've been long distance for four 910 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 2: years now, so I'm so excited about that. But personally, 911 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to continue to build my online coaching business, 912 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 2: opening up one on one spots and then continuing to 913 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 2: work on different fitness guides, and then I'm also going 914 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 2: to start working towards my yoga teacher certification, and then, 915 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 2: like I said at the beginning of this episode, hopefully 916 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 2: learning how to start my podcast. My goal is to 917 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 2: have the ball rolling on that by the end of 918 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 2: the year. But like I said, try not to place 919 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 2: too many expectations on myself because never know where life's 920 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 2: really going to take me. 921 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: So true, and to finish the interview, something that I 922 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: ask all my guests is what is your biggest source 923 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: of motivation in regards to when you're just not feeling it? 924 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: What do you sort of do to get motivated? Or inspired. 925 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think just looking back on the past 926 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 2: couple years of my life and seeing how far I've 927 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 2: come and how much I've developed physically and mentally in 928 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 2: the past couple years, specifically just in college, because I 929 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 2: feel like that's when my life really actually started. But 930 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 2: it just really gives me hope that I've only started 931 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 2: to meet my potential and it really makes me excited 932 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 2: for what my twenties hold for me. Like I said, 933 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 2: I'm turning twenty two later this week, so I'm still 934 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 2: really young, and I often find myself comparing myself to 935 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 2: older people, but I kind of have to reel it 936 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 2: back in and give myself a reality. 937 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 3: Check that I'm still super duper young and. 938 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 2: This is really just the beginning for me. So that's 939 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 2: super motivating. Just knowing that how much I've accomplished and 940 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 2: how good I feel about it in the past couple 941 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 2: of years of my life, that I'm really only just 942 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 2: getting started with all of this and I have so 943 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 2: much room to grow is so motivating for me. 944 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: I love that perfect way to finish. Well, thank you 945 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: so much for coming on the show. Nat. It has 946 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: been lovely to have a chat with you. 947 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 3: Of course, thank you so much for having me. This 948 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 3: was so lovely. 949 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: And before you go, can you just let the audience 950 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: know where they can find you on Instagram and your 951 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 1: socials and all that good stuff. 952 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 2: Yes, So my Instagram is Nat with two t's and 953 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 2: att b fit and then YouTube is just my full name, 954 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 2: Natalie Bally. I'm also on Twitter, but I don't really 955 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 2: use it that often and I'm pretty sure it's just 956 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 2: my name Natalie Bally. 957 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, awesome, Thanks so much, Nat, And that's a 958 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: wrap on another episode of the Rise and Concer Podcast. 959 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: I hope you got something valuable from it, and I 960 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: want to say a big thank you for tuning in. 961 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 1: I really really do appreciate it. If you're craving more 962 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 1: than don't worry, I've got you sorted. 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