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Speaker 1: Joining me on the line right now is Winnelli Supermarket

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Speaker 1: owner Wayne.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Wayne. Hello Wayne, what happened last night? Mate?

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Speaker 3: We just had some people do a snatch grabbers and

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Speaker 3: alcohol and on the way out they knocked over my

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Speaker 3: wife and injured her.

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Speaker 2: Wayne, how is your wife?

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Speaker 3: She's a bit worse aware, Mate.

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Speaker 1: I've seen the vision and it is it's absolutely shocking,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, seeing them knock your wife

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Speaker 1: over is really it's mortifying for me, And I don't

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Speaker 1: know you guys, so I can't imagine how you felt

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Speaker 1: watching that and knowing what had happened to your wife.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's getting a little bit out of control.

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Speaker 2: Wayne. How is your wife this morning? In terms of injuries?

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Speaker 3: Oh, well, we've we spent a night at the hospital

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Speaker 3: and with and she's been up, been up the police station,

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Speaker 3: given statements and she's yeah, she's done a lot of pain,

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Speaker 3: accivated some Uh, it's yeah, he's in a lot of pain.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's safe to say she's got the

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Speaker 1: whole of the territory hoping that she makes a speedy

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Speaker 1: recovery and.

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Speaker 2: Hoping that she is all right.

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Speaker 1: Wayne, What is like what happened in the in the

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Speaker 1: minutes that before they knocked her over.

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Speaker 3: Ah, So basically there's they have Well, they were just

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Speaker 3: walking around checking the fake scoping the fake out, and

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Speaker 3: then we were asking them for idtail they could bite alcohol,

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Speaker 3: and then they just took off because they you know,

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Speaker 3: once you're hear in that idea, the idea, don't.

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Speaker 2: You Well, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: It's the ground running Wayne.

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Speaker 1: Is this the first time that your supermarket has been

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Speaker 1: targeted in an incident like this?

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Speaker 3: This is the first time they've hurt one of the

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Speaker 3: female staff. It's is a constant thing for us. It's

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Speaker 3: not it's not our local people. You know, they give

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Speaker 3: they complain about the narrows flats and bag it and

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Speaker 3: that sort of thing, but that that's not where the

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Speaker 3: problems coming from. It's all double The people coming from

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Speaker 3: the bush are just swarming the area. They move from

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Speaker 3: area to area.

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Speaker 1: Wayne, What impact is this having on you guys trying

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Speaker 1: to run your business?

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Speaker 3: Well, for a start, it makes this think that everybody

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Speaker 3: we're going to get hurt every time we try to

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Speaker 3: we sell alcohol, So we already have very strict conditions

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Speaker 3: when you buy alcohol from out the supermarket. We still

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Speaker 3: have the the location restrictions they were in over COVID nineteen.

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Speaker 3: So for instance, if you're not from that area, yep,

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Speaker 3: we don't sell it to you. You have to go

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Speaker 3: somewhere else. And so I mean it caused us to

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Speaker 3: restrict people buying alcohol ourselves. So we just say no.

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Speaker 3: We say more NAIs than yes when we're selling yes.

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Speaker 3: It's like alcohol.

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Speaker 2: Wayane.

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Speaker 1: At this point in time, I know that the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory Police are as. I understand that they are still

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Speaker 1: looking for these two offenders, aren't they.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think they are the police of invent They

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Speaker 3: put in a really big effort, but they've just run

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Speaker 3: off their feet. I mean a lot of times we

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Speaker 3: don't even cause them when we get people, like when

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Speaker 3: they just do a snatch and grab, we just get

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Speaker 3: the person, so I don't stick it on a revolving

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Speaker 3: on a wall of shame, and hopefully they never come

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Speaker 3: back to the supermarket again. Generally they don't you know,

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Speaker 3: a tack gups like this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and you're not alone, you know, this is

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Speaker 1: a sad part.

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Speaker 2: I not at the Stuart Park shops.

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Speaker 1: They've certainly got photos up on the wall where they've

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Speaker 1: had those similar snatch and grabs. We caught up with

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Speaker 1: Manual from the Funny bay IgA just a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago after his supermarket have been subjected to a

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Speaker 1: different kind of break in. But at the time he

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Speaker 1: had said as well that some of his female and

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Speaker 1: male staff had been assaulted. It's just applorable behavior.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, look there, I don't know, there's not enough

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Speaker 3: for the police. Who is not enough there? Like they

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Speaker 3: can't do anything about the people that are doing the problem.

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Speaker 3: That's just relentless, Wayne. Have you found I actually went

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Speaker 3: to I actually went to the library the other day

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Speaker 3: on my day off. I said, in a library and

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Speaker 3: a librarian was getting verbally abused and nearly attacked from

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Speaker 3: a drunk person a casual in the library. For God's say,

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Speaker 3: you can't get any further from alcohol sales space and

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Speaker 3: than a library.

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Speaker 1: Your spot on It's exactly right, Wayne, do you I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's a bit of a loaded question. But

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Speaker 1: do you feel as though the alcohol measures that we've

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Speaker 1: got in place at the moment are working or are

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Speaker 1: they making it worse? Or how have you found it

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Speaker 1: as a business owner?

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Speaker 3: Look, when they first bought in those things the Royal

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Speaker 3: commission bullshit. We were. It was like the Royal Commissioner

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent blame the small supermarkets for the liquor problems.

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Speaker 3: And it's sort of still like that now. We sat

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Speaker 3: in numerous meetings with the government about us not not

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Speaker 3: being the problem, that we only sell a very small

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Speaker 3: percentage of alcohol. But the ministers at the time when

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Speaker 3: they or the people we were talking to, completely ignored

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Speaker 3: the message. They just had a name was like in

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Speaker 3: a different agenda. They had a plan, and the plan

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Speaker 3: was to close down all the supermarkets. Now that's the

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Speaker 3: small supermarkets. Now that's It doesn't seem to be the

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Speaker 3: same priority now. But I think because of the the

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Speaker 3: severe liquor restriction and the rest of the Northern territory,

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Speaker 3: it's driven the problem drinkers to Darwin. And now you

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Speaker 3: can see we get swarmed. So when the police clamp

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Speaker 3: down in prep all of a sudden, we just get

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Speaker 3: swarmed with people, just a group of people. We don't

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Speaker 3: serve an alcohol and we have a big problems with

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Speaker 3: arguments and stress and all that sort of thing to

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Speaker 3: a big group of people move on. But then they

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Speaker 3: move them from Casuarina and they're back to an alley again.

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Speaker 2: So we're just moving the problem.

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Speaker 3: Ah, it's the same people. They just relentlessly moved from

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Speaker 3: place to place to trying get alcohol. Well, Wayne, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't even matter if you don't serve them alcohol. I

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Speaker 3: don't even know where they get their alcohol to cause

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Speaker 3: the problems in our area from. But we actually every

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Speaker 3: time we sell a cast now, we write the person's

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Speaker 3: name down next to the cast. I don't even know

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Speaker 3: you the galley of it, but we write down the

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Speaker 3: person's name when we sell a car, and they can

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Speaker 3: only buy two cars to day, so they can't buy

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Speaker 3: any more alcohol than those two cars. Now days when

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Speaker 3: we have alcohol problems, I can look on the list

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Speaker 3: and we've sold six cars and we're getting smashed with

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Speaker 3: groups of drunk people and we've sold six cars. I

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Speaker 3: don't know how to You can't even explain that.

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Speaker 1: No, Wayne, oh mate, I'm really sorry for what happened

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Speaker 1: to you guys yesterday, and I'm particularly sorry to your wife.

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Speaker 3: It's not just us. I mean, look look at night

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Speaker 3: with supermarket. Yeah, they don't sell cars, yet the big

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Speaker 3: group of people sit outside the supermarket going to cashman

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Speaker 3: birders get alone, go to another shop nearby the self cars,

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Speaker 3: buy the big ship ton of cars. Then they sit

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Speaker 3: outside not with Supermarket and just relentlessly go in and

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Speaker 3: out of Not With super Market like it's their own face.

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Speaker 3: The fight. Yeah, you know, and they actually put it.

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Speaker 3: I talking to the owner the other day because I

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Speaker 3: was complaining about, you know, the issues in our area,

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Speaker 3: and he was telling us what was happening over there,

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Speaker 3: like he doesn't even sell the alcohol it's causing the problem.

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Speaker 2: Yet, But they're getting their heads that they like.

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Speaker 3: No matter what we tell the government, they were still

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Speaker 3: blaming us for this issue. They won't listen to us.

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Speaker 2: Wayne, we are going to have to wrap up. Mate.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you talking to us this morning and

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Speaker 1: also highlighting the broader issue that this is, and I

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Speaker 1: think we're all very aware of it. But you know,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to some of the measures that you're

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Speaker 1: taking to try to prevent this alcohol abuse, it sounds

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Speaker 1: like you're going well and above what is expected. Yet

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Speaker 1: you've still been subjected to this terrible situation overnight. Wayne,

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Speaker 1: Please pass on our thoughts to your wife. I hope

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Speaker 1: that she recovers quickly. I really appreciate you talking to

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Speaker 1: me today.

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Speaker 3: Are seeking Thanks mate,