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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just

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Speaker 2: wants answers.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Strengths don't just have to be things that we perform

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Speaker 2: Strengths are much deeper than that.

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Speaker 3: And now here's the stars of our show.

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Speaker 2: My mum and dad. Hello, this is doctor Justin Colson.

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Speaker 2: I'm here with my wife Kylie munder our six kids.

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Speaker 2: I'm the founder of Happy Families dot com, dot you,

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Speaker 2: and the parenting expert and co host on Channel Line's

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Speaker 2: TV show Parental Guidance, which is what we're going to

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Speaker 2: be talking about today.

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Speaker 3: I cannot wait to see how free rangers do a sleepover.

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Speaker 2: Boys, give your parents a hugs.

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Speaker 1: It might be the last time you.

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Speaker 2: Say it's a hug?

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Speaker 4: Are we gonna have?

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Speaker 1: Fuck?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a very healthy.

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Speaker 2: Free range chicken. Kylie. Last night, I know that you

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Speaker 2: have to say yes to this question. But are you're

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Speaker 2: loving this show? It's kept me riveted. I don't usually

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Speaker 3: I'm really enjoying watching the families evolve.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm enjoying. People are generally being really

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Speaker 2: nice about the show. It's reaching a huge number of people.

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Speaker 2: It's going extremely well, and it's giving us so much

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Speaker 2: to talk about. When I said so much talk about,

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Speaker 2: I don't interested on the podcast. I mean in life,

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Speaker 2: like people are talking about parenting and trying to work

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Speaker 2: out what we're supposed to do. So we should talk

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Speaker 2: about last night. There are two things that happened last night.

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Speaker 3: Well, the very first one came when we got that

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Speaker 3: first panoramic view of the crowded house. You literally, every

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Speaker 3: It really wasn't that crowded, was it? Well?

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Speaker 2: How did you say it? I feel like the parents

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about it. We had two activities that

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Speaker 2: And gentlemen, welcome to the show. The MC role that

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Speaker 2: Kevin just had to take over, all right, are we ready?

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Speaker 4: I did feel Kevin didn't quite give enough opportunities to Sebastian,

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Speaker 2: That's the part of tiger parenting that we would never Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well, after the break, we're going to tackle the best

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Speaker 3: It's the Happy Families podcast, the podcast for the time

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Speaker 3: reviewing last night's episode seven of Parental Guidance. We've talked

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Speaker 2: The cleanup took so long and everyone was coughing and spluttering.

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Speaker 2: particularly of the strict parents Andrew Miriam, Yes, i did.

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Speaker 4: There was a large group of the children just glued

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Speaker 1: A lot of the children just doing their own thing,

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Speaker 3: There was just no ability to regulate by themselves.

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Speaker 3: With no limits in place, there was absolutely just there

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Speaker 2: But mum and dad are mum and dad today, No,

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