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Speaker 1: And Amanda gam Nation.

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Speaker 2: I've been reading a survey that says, and it's stuff

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Speaker 2: we probably know, but it's been officially decreed that workers

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Speaker 2: are wasting time in meetings that could really be emails

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Speaker 2: at Lassian, which is well the guys that runded la

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Speaker 2: in Australia's richest men. Really they've done a big survey.

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Speaker 2: They looked at five thousand knowledge workers across Australia, the US, India,

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Speaker 2: Germany and France, as well as one hundred executives from

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Speaker 2: Fortune five hundred companies and they have estimated that twenty

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Speaker 2: five billion hours of work each year is lost due

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Speaker 2: to inefficient old world practices. Old world practices meaning old

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Speaker 2: fashioned meetings that could be done by email. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: not a fan of a meeting. We don't go to

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Speaker 2: many meetings here. They tried to get us to go

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Speaker 2: to lots of meetings in the.

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Speaker 1: Early days when we were starting out.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, rookies, and we were rookies. You have to

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Speaker 2: go to all these meetings and eventually you say, look,

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Speaker 2: how about you all get up at the time we

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Speaker 2: do and see how you feel it. Two people.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the meetings we go there, we have

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Speaker 1: one by and he'd ask everyone about their weekend.

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Speaker 2: And that wasn't him being polite, that was him trying

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Speaker 2: to bond us all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it didn't work because what invariably would happen,

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Speaker 1: everything got pushed back and everyone got grumpy, and then

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Speaker 1: people started making up elaborate things for the weekend. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I went to I Summond the north face of Everest

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Speaker 1: on the weekend. That's what I'll be doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he fell for that once, Brendan.

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Speaker 1: He summered many faces at the Christmas party.

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Speaker 2: But interestingly, as we moved to a more online world

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Speaker 2: and listen to these numbers, on average, businesses will spend

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Speaker 2: three hundred will send in this year alone three hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty one billion emails every single day.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And that number is going to go up by twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty seven to over four hundred billion emails a day.

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Speaker 2: That's as many as in my work inbox that I

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Speaker 2: have never checked. Amazing. Over half the Wall's population uses

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Speaker 2: email now. But if we're going to just not have

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Speaker 2: face to face meetings, are there ramifications for Because with

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Speaker 2: a lot of people who started working from home during COVID,

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Speaker 2: people don't want to come back into the office, and

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Speaker 2: businesses are trying to get them to come back into

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Speaker 2: it because the face to face stuff gives you not

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Speaker 2: just a work culture, but it gives you the serendipitous

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Speaker 2: nature of creativity. You're talking to someone while you're in

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Speaker 2: a lunch room. We don't do that stuff anymore. If

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Speaker 2: you're talking to someone in the lunchroom, you're going and

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Speaker 2: get a coffee with someone and you say, what are

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Speaker 2: you working on? What part of the business? But you know,

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Speaker 2: this is where ideas come from, and we've taken that

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Speaker 2: away from our workplaces. Now it's become technology and task

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Speaker 2: driven as opposed to human driven.

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Speaker 1: You just want a healthy balance. Remember there was a

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Speaker 1: time when a woman used to bring a dog into

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Speaker 1: the building all the time and then just distract different

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Speaker 1: If you bring a dog in, then that's pretty much

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes gone. Oh it's a dog. Whose dog is?

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Speaker 1: What sort of dog is it? And then no work is.

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Speaker 2: Getting What about the birthday cake?

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Speaker 1: I got a birthday cake? You know that is the

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Speaker 1: biggest goof off in the history of the world.

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Speaker 2: And sign the card.

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Speaker 1: Sign the cart. Then you've got to get the cake.

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Speaker 1: Then you got to gather everyone around together so they

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Speaker 1: can work.

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Speaker 2: Come off there and sing a song for the cake.

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Speaker 1: My sister was telling a story. She was on maternity

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Speaker 1: leave and she always had time to kill, and.

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Speaker 2: So she was working in the office.

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Speaker 1: She was wearing the office. So usually she's a pilot.

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Speaker 1: She LUs a plane because she had the baby. They don't,

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Speaker 1: you know, let pregnant women fly planes. Possibly a wise thing.

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Speaker 1: So what happened was she thought to kill some time.

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Speaker 1: She found it everyone's birthdays and then organized an elaborate

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Speaker 1: cake because she said, you would literally kill forty five

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Speaker 1: minutes the every second day, getting of the cake, gathering

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Speaker 1: people together, the speecher and get some plates, plates, cleaning

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Speaker 1: up the cake, all that sort of stuff. Then when

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Speaker 1: her birthday came around, absolutely nothing. She's the only woman

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Speaker 1: in an office of men.

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Speaker 2: Henny Penny. I'll buy the cake. I'll eat the cake,

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Speaker 2: but I won't buy the cakes. The little red hen

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Speaker 2: who was Henny Penny.

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Speaker 1: Anny Benny was the one worried about that. That was chicken.

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Speaker 2: Little Who's Handy Penny.

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Speaker 1: But chicken franchise got taken over by big Rooster.

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Speaker 2: All I feel like now is eating chicken and cake.

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Speaker 1: I could go, I could go a three piece feet.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a meeting in discris.

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Speaker 1: Let's have a meeting