1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: It's a woman Woody podcast Mini. So when you're in 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: a rash or just can't people listening to them bleather 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: on for half an hour. 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: Talking polyamorous relationships, relationships where you are in with more 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: than one person. Can it work? Have you been in one, 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: Cassandra or Cassana, I should say Cassana. You were in 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: a polyamorous relationship? 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah for three years? 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: Wow? How many people were talking? First of all, so 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: there's three. 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: Of us, So my boyfriend and then his girlfriend beautiful, 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: so thropple that is what they call I think, and 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: it was closed. Yeah, okay, can you talk us through 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: the experience, Casana. So me and my boyfriend had been 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: together for a couple of years and we kind of 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: decided that we both had needs that the other wasn't meeting. 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: I was interested in girls as well, and there was 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: things that he wanted as well from another person. So 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: we decided to open our relationship up. But we knew 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: that we wanted to like have a life together, so 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: we wanted to be like in addition to our family, 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: rather than you know, go off and date other people. 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: How did you how did you how did you seek 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: out the third person? 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: Casana? 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: So I kind of left it up to him a 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: little bit beautiful, like. 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: Take the steering wheel. 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. They were like Facebook groups where you could interests 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, and. 31 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: I don't mean to like, you know, dumb it down 32 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: or make it sense simplar. But then would he bring 33 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: her home? You'd sit down for tea and coffee and 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: be like a job interview, and then you'd decide like, yeah, 35 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: I'm down for this. 36 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: Well, it was a little bit more complicated than that. 37 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: So it was very much about developing an emotional relationship 38 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: with someone, so like maybe you know them and like 39 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: dating someone essentially, So it was very much like find 40 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: one person that you really like and then bring them 41 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: home and we'll see if we all get along. 42 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, so designer, how did that end then? 43 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: So it was just a it's a very very difficult 44 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: thing to get over the jealousy and like innate feelings 45 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: that come with that situation. 46 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: And yeah, just before you get into that, can I 47 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: just ask like specifically and and and feel free to well, 48 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: let's keep this as clean as we can. But so 49 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: would you guys, like was it was it all? It 50 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: was the triangle equilateral. It might be a nice way 51 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: of saying it like, were you all hooking up with 52 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: each other at different times? Was there times where you 53 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: rinse the squirrel together all three of you? Were you 54 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: occasionally joined the fame with the Fosbury flop with the girl, 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: and then he was you know, it was all you know, Yeah, 56 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: it was kind of a communal planting of. 57 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: The partner went into it with the idea that we 58 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: would all be equal partners within the relationship, but it 59 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: didn't quite work out that way. Her and I decided 60 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: we didn't like each other that way, but right, so 61 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: it ended up being that like we would kind of 62 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: take turns with him. 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: Wow, is solve a little bit like the dentist, you know, 64 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: just like all right, you're right, thanks very much to 65 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: come back. 66 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: We're discreet as possible as we could be about it. 67 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: So that's amazing. Oh you would be discreet. It's becoming discreet. 68 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: I think that's a problem. Can I just say, like, 69 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: I really admire you for having the emotional maturity to 70 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: give that a crack for your happiness and the fact 71 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: that you've walked out that's really amazing. So thanks for sharing. 72 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: Empowering feeling to overcome that jealousy you're enough in your 73 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: relationship with someone to feel okay in that situation. 74 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what Woods and I were just saying 75 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: that we couldn't do it this stage, going from feeling 76 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: attached to the person that you love to loving them 77 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: enough to be selfless enough to let them explore something else, 78 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: and letting go of your own insecurities. It's it's amazing. 79 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: Really really hard, but it's very freeing at the same time. 80 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: Great stuff, mate, really phenomenal chat. Thanks for joining, Cassandra. 81 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: I think we've got one hundred dollars jockey voucher that 82 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: you can have, mate. Apparently it's better than the other stuff. 83 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: A lot of women say so, Uh, that's all yours, 84 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: hundred dollars in Cabri voucher for you. Mate. We're going 85 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: to go to Ginny who's called on thirty one or 86 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: six f Ginny. You're in a polyamorous relationship with your 87 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: partner and it opened up after you got engaged. 88 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: Yes exactly, yeah, you wiz. Yeah, we're engaged for like 89 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: over a year and a half and then they opened 90 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: our relationship. 91 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: So what happened is it was like, Hi, can you 92 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: marry me? By the way, this is Georgia. 93 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: It was actually me that brought it up, right. Yeah, 94 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: I was just feeling a bit guilty about all the 95 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 3: feelings I was having for other people. So yeah, I 96 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: was just talking to him about it, and it was 97 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: like a week long conversation basically back and forward, and 98 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: then he kind of was like, you know what, I 99 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: love you and I want you do experience everything. Let's 100 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: do it. Let's see other people, you know, sexually outside 101 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: our relationship. 102 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: Wow, and did it work? Did it work? 103 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're so happy, like it really brought us closer together. 104 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: So, Ginny, can I just make a distinction. Maybe that's 105 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: key for the audience here. There is a difference between 106 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: what you're talking about, which is effectively an open relationship 107 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: where you're comfortable sexually seeing other people, and what Casana 108 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: was talking about, where they're trying to be in a 109 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: relationship or a thruple where it's the three of them 110 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: who have, as I said, an equilateral triangle, a trilateral agreement, 111 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: whereas Ginny, you're saying, you're not necessarily exploring connections with 112 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: other people, but you're sexually open to seeing other people. 113 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 114 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: Look, it's kind of an ongoing conversation though, because you 115 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 3: know it has been seeing one part like one outside 116 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: partner regularly. 117 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 118 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's coming up a bit those kinds of 119 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: topics of like, you know, if there is feelings of 120 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: jealousy or whatever. Wow, And he always checks in with 121 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: me and makes sure that I'm all okay with it. 122 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just the communication and honesty required. 123 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: Yes, everything makes it a. 124 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: Really great like it's connection now that we have, it's 125 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: so much deeper, like yeah. 126 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: Gee wiz, sounds like an unbelievable thing to do. And again, 127 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: well down on the vulnerability and the honesty there, Ginny, 128 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: I know what I'm doing when I'm getting home. What's 129 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: that having a stiff cup of tea? Woulds We're going 130 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: to go get out of that. I'm having a cup 131 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: of tea. You're sick? Am I invited to the stiff 132 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: cup of tea? Absolutely not matter me a cup of tea. 133 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 2: I was talking about tea as well. I was talking 134 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: about about having a bit of a nightcap with a big 135 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 2: Glores more of the. 136 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: Voice on the full Show podcast. 137 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 3: You know you want to