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Speaker 2: The park and I was sitting there and I.

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Speaker 1: Slipped out a farts and I thought I shipped myself.

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Speaker 3: There is only that reaction to that.

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Speaker 1: She was like so disappointed, and she was like, do

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Speaker 1: you know what that's divorcible?

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Speaker 3: Oh wow?

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Speaker 1: And I said that all it would take and she

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Speaker 2: I was clean.

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Speaker 3: So you didn't chet yourself.

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Speaker 2: I didn't. It just felt like I did. How good

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Speaker 2: it feel like you did? Just the velocity of the fart.

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Speaker 3: Your fart.

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Speaker 2: Happy.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy that you guys are still happily married.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I know how to get at a quick divorce.

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Speaker 1: Just ship myself in public. Welcome back to two doting dads, well,

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Speaker 2: Laura, I'm back again.

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Speaker 1: I'm back, You're back. This is a podcast all about parenting.

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Speaker 1: It's the good, the bad, and the.

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Speaker 4: Relatable, reasonable reasonable, the reasonably relatable.

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Speaker 1: I didn't I wasn't going to tell you that shitting

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Speaker 4: What was it that I said that actually reminded you

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Speaker 1: Did you shoot yourself again? And I was like, I

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Speaker 1: wasn't a ship myself. I did shit myself the other day.

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Speaker 2: Though. No, we can't talk about me sitting myself. I

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Speaker 3: Trap on in everyone.

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Speaker 2: No, no, this happened yesterday last night. Actually. So I

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Speaker 4: Of these flags all yeah, and the picture is that

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Speaker 4: It sounds like, sorry, Jess, she's just looking at us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she does know that. She handed someone delivery.

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Speaker 4: There is a hundred, one hundred people in a group chat.

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Speaker 4: So I messaged the massive WhatsApp group and I was like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: No, it made me think about because it's the start

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Speaker 1: But it made me think about how I felt because

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Speaker 1: And it makes me think, like Oscar's got gonna have

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Speaker 4: And there's also no way of explaining to a kid that, like,

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Speaker 4: Because it's everything, it's a whole world, And I think

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Speaker 2: But I want to fix it. I don't want it

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Speaker 1: I don't want You don't want to put your kids

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Speaker 1: for you, want everything to be but it's you're right,

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Speaker 1: it's so good for them to like experience the sadness

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Speaker 4: It, maybe, and they also all need to embarrass themselves,

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Speaker 3: It's a Bride of Passage. We've all been there.

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Speaker 4: I once stood on stage and sung Tears on My

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Speaker 4: I got bullied for an entire year for it because

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Speaker 4: I fucking deserved it, to be honest, that is good

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Speaker 3: And I was in year three in my heart God

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Speaker 3: like you Sorr.

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Speaker 2: You just lost a whole lot of subscribers.

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Speaker 1: Then I remember, and I've told this story on the

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Speaker 2: It and we all quit. We quit the boy band.

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Speaker 1: The teacher cried, oh so, And now I look back

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Speaker 3: It's cool.

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Speaker 2: This is cool, man done something think of like Backstreet boys.

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Speaker 4: You were that actually screams that you were living out

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Speaker 2: Not yours.

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Speaker 1: That's what that's and then we all went we all

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Speaker 2: Oh, that sounds like a teacher that has attachment issues.

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Speaker 2: This issue is just like it's like mister g oh

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like she was like that.

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Speaker 1: She was like, you've got like a professional quality at

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Speaker 2: And then she's like I've got an all boys dance crew.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait.

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Speaker 1: They all just quit and she cried and I felt

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Speaker 2: Still when I bring it up, the other bullied for it.

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Speaker 2: Are you me? It's a secret thirty five? I'm thirty

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Speaker 2: five this year?

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Speaker 4: Are you you are a baby?

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Speaker 1: Fuck? This one shits me. People are like thirty six

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Speaker 4: Oh, you're just a little boby, little boby, we should

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Speaker 2: Look a little baby baby. I'm starting to sweat.

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Speaker 3: I'm thirty nine.

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Speaker 2: In a couple of weeks, I know. April asked me

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Speaker 1: Old, she's fast dust, She's that old.

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Speaker 4: Literally, Yeah, everything's got a pension guard. Everything creaks now

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Speaker 4: my back hurts, but for no reason.

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Speaker 2: I like hurt my ribs.

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Speaker 3: It's just because I've sneezed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you sleep wrong?

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Speaker 4: Yeah well that no, that's actually happens. My shoulders heard

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Speaker 4: every night from sleeping. But that's a whole other story. Okay,

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Speaker 4: look something else. Getting away from the kids and stop.

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Speaker 1: What did you get the backpack? And do you get

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Speaker 1: the hat?

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Speaker 3: I think so. I think I think that Annie Kate

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Speaker 3: went and picked him up.

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Speaker 2: Matts sister. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: She Everyone was like Molly can't go to school without

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Speaker 4: these things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because people rallied.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, It's like I've experienced with Oscar

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Speaker 4: But it's good, like I said, resilience building if she

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Speaker 4: either be like I stand out on I'm a star,

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Speaker 2: This is going to be one of those things that

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Speaker 2: he hid in the bathroom for fuck.

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Speaker 3: And look, it doesn't kill you, make too strong.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and like he's never been the same, but he's fine.

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Speaker 2: He recovered, all right.

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Speaker 4: I did want to talk to you about something that

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Speaker 4: I know has been really upsetting for you lately. We've

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Speaker 4: been talking about it in group chats. Oh yeah, the

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Speaker 4: Australian media has been talking about it. And if anything,

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Speaker 4: I'm worried about the future of this podcast to be honest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I don't know if you should be worried

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Speaker 2: for me. Are worried for Matt? Because I've reached worried

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Speaker 2: for me, I've reached out. No, I don't worry about you.

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Speaker 2: I've reached out to all the.

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Speaker 1: Other lifeguards on Bondai Rescue and now we're all chummy.

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Speaker 3: Have you really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just getting some backup.

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Speaker 3: After that reeks of desperation.

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Speaker 2: Don't know, I'm just out of BONDI going.

446
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 3: So if you don't know what we're talking about.

447
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 4: Obviously Matt being on I'm a Celebrity, he has striped

448
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,639
Speaker 4: up quite a romance with Harrison, who is one of

449
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,680
Speaker 4: the lifeguards from Bondai Rescue.

450
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 3: They've called themselves Marison. I think that just sucks.

451
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 4: I got the instant dick for my own husband, Marathon.

452
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 2: Surely we go out with something other.

453
00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 3: Than that, So we had to do these.

454
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 4: Sandra Sully comes on. So if you haven't watched IM

455
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 4: a celeb or a whole season before, about three quarters

456
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,680
Speaker 4: of the way through, so I would say any day now,

457
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 4: Sandra Sully comes on with this like news from Home segment.

458
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, so like she'll read out letters from

459
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,639
Speaker 4: loved ones or she'll show photos from loved ones. No

460
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 4: one called me for all the big things that they're

461
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,919
Speaker 4: miss You picked her on the emails.

462
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,679
Speaker 2: You didn't get that email. I'm not on an email.

463
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 4: I would have made something, okay, So like news from Home, right,

464
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 4: and my my news from Home was like some things

465
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 4: were funny, some things that were obviously nice and sentimental,

466
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 4: like Lola had her fourth birthday, and then at the

467
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 4: end of it, I was like Harrison stopp cutting my grass.

468
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 2: I was like, I really hope they include that. Stop

469
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 2: cutting my grass more like it.

470
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 1: My mother in law yesterday said to me, she was like,

471
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: how do you feel about it?

472
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,120
Speaker 2: And I'm like what she was like, She's like.

473
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 1: Oh, we love a bromance and it's it's a it's

474
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 1: a good move.

475
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 2: It is a good it is a good move.

476
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 3: Australia does love a bro mat I love it.

477
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 1: And look, I'm on it seems like a nice guy.

478
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 1: It's got no kids, so it's got no life experience.

479
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm not bitter at all.

480
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 4: That's not two things that, to be fair, I think

481
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 4: I would normally find them really funny.

482
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 3: I found one of them quite funny. But one of them,

483
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: I was.

484
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 4: Like, that made me kind of annoyed at you what.

485
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 2: Because I know, I know, are you watching math?

486
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 3: It's it's not it's my husband.

487
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 2: No.

488
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: So there's been two things that he's done.

489
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 4: The first thing, and let me put this in perspective,

490
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 4: I am very sensitive because I'm on my own at

491
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 4: the moment, like I'm doing everything with the kids and

492
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 4: managing multiple like I'm.

493
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 3: Managing a renovation, like, but I'm doing a lot.

494
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 4: I'm doing a lot of plus I'm also managing his

495
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 4: social media, Like I can't be doing any.

496
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 2: More recording podcast? What else am I doing? You might

497
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 2: as well just be him too. So I'm doing a.

498
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 3: Lot of stuff for him to support him.

499
00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 2: Can I just say one thing?

500
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 1: You do a great job?

501
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 3: Thanks, Ash, That's what I needed all.

502
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: Listen's going to love that.

503
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 4: See everyone, Ash's got a heart. So there was this

504
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 4: joke around and it was kind of like a like

505
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 4: a trivia how well do you know your camp mates?

506
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 4: And so it was a question this or that and

507
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 4: there and the rest of the camp mates had to

508
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 4: guess what they thought the person who had been asked

509
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 4: the question would guess. So, for example, Matt went into

510
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 4: a room and he his question was, if you won

511
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 4: a holiday to Bali, who would you take your wife?

512
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 2: Or Harrison hilarious.

513
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: Hilarious, I can take a joke.

514
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 4: Would have found that very funny had I not had

515
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 4: a really hard day with the kids. So he came

516
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 4: out and was like, all very funny, ha ha. The

517
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 4: stupid thing though, is like the camp mates were objectively like, Okay,

518
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 4: how would he really answer this? Like what's the honest answer?

519
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 4: What would any normal husband write down? And they wrote

520
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 4: down Laura.

521
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 1: Oh you take your mates, and then stands there and.

522
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 3: He's like, I know that this is going to piss

523
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 3: off Laura. He also said some zings. He's like, I

524
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 3: know that this upset her.

525
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 4: He's like, but I'm taking And the grand reveal was

526
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 4: Harrison and everyone who was because I was watching with

527
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 4: Falcon and a couple of Matt's really good friends and

528
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 4: everyone was like so funny, and.

529
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 3: I just could feel the lack of laughter on my face.

530
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 3: I was watching the.

531
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 2: TV like stoneface.

532
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 4: I can't fucking wait to go on a Bali girls

533
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 4: trip and you're not coming.

534
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: And that's the first thing I'm going to do when

535
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 3: you get home.

536
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 4: And then the second thing he said recently was that

537
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 4: he'd rather eat a mango than have sex with me

538
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 4: live on National TV.

539
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 2: So that's okay.

540
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: This is what I wanted to ask you because I

541
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: have been in and out watching.

542
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 2: I've got a laugh too.

543
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 3: You're not a dedicated viewer.

544
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: No, it's the ads, man, it kills you.

545
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: And also that's a ADHD sit through an Adverbs.

546
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: Also went to have an ADHD appointment today stood me up,

547
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: which is.

548
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 4: So annoying because I mean, you being organized is part

549
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 4: of the thing, Like, yeah.

550
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: I was.

551
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: It was a telehealth and it was like, you're in

552
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: the lobby and I was like, it's been thirty minutes.

553
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: You need to check that you actually got the time right. No,

554
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: I did. I figured that that but your mistake A

555
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: there's mine?

556
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that was a true question.

557
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: It was theirs.

558
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 4: You shouldn't even have to go for the diagnoses, like

559
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 4: you should just be like I missed the appointment because

560
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 4: I was disorganized.

561
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: It was in it and I was like to Apral'm like,

562
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: I've been in this virtual lobby for like fifteen twenty minutes.

563
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: She's like, maybe this is the test. It is and

564
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: forty minutes. Anyway, I got a call from them. I

565
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: fixed it anyway, just skewed us off track there, Sorry,

566
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: what was I saying?

567
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't I can't.

568
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't sit through that long of anything, like

569
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: I cannot do it.

570
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 2: We know, Oh, okay, just just check it.

571
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: I can't stop fidgiting with things anyway. And I missed

572
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: the mango thing and I forgot to ask our producer, yes,

573
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: what it meant?

574
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 4: So the mango for anyone who did miss it, and

575
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 4: may have seen that. I'd post it on Matt Stories.

576
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 4: I was on his grid. Was that basically they've split

577
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 4: the team now, so it's women verse men. The men

578
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 4: won the challenge that the men got the food that night,

579
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 4: and the food was steak and vegetables, and then for dessert,

580
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 4: the dessert is like the elite dessert.

581
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: They got a mango or multiple mangoes.

582
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 4: Right, that's pretty good. And the women's team were obviously

583
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 4: super upset by it because they were starving having rice.

584
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 3: And horrible beans.

585
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 4: She's got some The beans are so flavorless because there's

586
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 4: no salt, there's no nothing. And the boys had like

587
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 4: the best meal ever. And so Matt's sitting there and

588
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 4: he's like eating the mango and he goes, I know,

589
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 4: I shouldn't say this out loud, and he's like, then

590
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 4: then says it a completely normal volume. He's like, I

591
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 4: shouldn't say this out loud, but I'm going to say

592
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 4: it so that everybody hears.

593
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: He's like, if I had the choice between having sex

594
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: with my.

595
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 4: Wife and eating this mango, I would choose this mango.

596
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: That's fair.

597
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 3: I think that's fair saying to be honest.

598
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: Fair.

599
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if April was like, either you can

600
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: have sex with me or you can eat this delicious mango.

601
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: Oh can you color up for me?

602
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 3: But can you do it with the little lines?

603
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Look, I mean I saw that was just in

604
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: the moment.

605
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, And do you know what's funny is that the

606
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 4: producers so like I get emails most days from like

607
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 4: different producers to tell me and update me on things

608
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 4: because I can't speak to him, but I do get

609
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 4: bits of updates, and every day it's almost like they're

610
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 4: just reassuring me that he does actually miss me, because

611
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 4: every day they're like, I know it didn't make it

612
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 4: onto the show, but he talks about you and the

613
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 4: girls all the time. Just just want you to know

614
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 4: how much he loves you and adores you. And I

615
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 4: was like, thanks for that, because what you're showing doesn't

616
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 4: really reply.

617
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm a bit but hurt the mango just maybe one

618
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: sentimental moment we can have anything at all.

619
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 4: I'm just jealous of a fucking mango and Harrison at

620
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 4: this point and yeah, exactly me too. Actually, did I

621
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 4: tell you?

622
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: Did I tell you?

623
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: My sister was like, hey, are you holding up to me?

624
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 4: It's because everybody is worried that the absolute wheels fall

625
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 4: off this wagon without mad here.

626
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: They're like fuckingh on his arm.

627
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: No, she was like, you pretty much were inseparable for

628
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: two years and then now you can't have in con him,

629
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: And that's what it was.

630
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: That's what it's like. It must be for you for

631
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: years and then now you carr contact him. Yes, except

632
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: ash I have children with him, so doesn't matter. Speaking

633
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: of my children, There's one other thing I wanted to

634
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 2: tell you. So Lola, Lola has.

635
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: I don't know how to describe her.

636
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: I know that you guys have.

637
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 4: Talked about Lola a lot on the show, obviously, like

638
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 4: she is a unique little character.

639
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 3: She is full of personality.

640
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: How did you describe her on your podcost I called.

641
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: Her the personality higher of our family.

642
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: But I think that that actually might be quite offensive

643
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: and maybe, no, it's not the way I meant it

644
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: to be.

645
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: She's just so annoying. No, she's so funny. She is

646
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: very funny.

647
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 4: She's just like so different to any other kid I've

648
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: ever met.

649
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: You never know, and I noticed this with Lola from

650
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: the outside looking in. And look, I think I have

651
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: a pretty good relationship with Lola. I'm like, Matt, you

652
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: don't know what face she's going to pull at you

653
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: when she looks at you.

654
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: You have no idea what you're going to get, what

655
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 3: you're going to get.

656
00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

657
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 4: To me, she is quite consistent normally because she has

658
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: Matt to hate. But I just get like the most.

659
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 4: I don't even know how to describe it. Like, so,

660
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 4: for example, when I leave for work in the morning,

661
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 4: she'll be like, mmy, kiss me, and I get like

662
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 4: this routine of kisses, right, this is how she says

663
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: goodbye to me every day. And she's very specific about

664
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 4: little things. But she'll kiss me on the lips. Then

665
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 4: she'll kiss me on this cheek, kiss me on this cheek,

666
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: kiss me here on the nose, kiss me here on

667
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 4: the head, kiss each ear.

668
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: Then she'll go back and do that whole rotation again.

669
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: Then she'll say I have to hug you twice, and

670
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 4: so then she hugs me twice, and then I'll be out.

671
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: The door and she'll be like one.

672
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: More time, one more time.

673
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: And she just is a genuinely a very sweet and

674
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 4: funny kid, and she has very big feelings. And I

675
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 4: think it's because she can't and doesn't know how to

676
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 4: control them more, communicate them properly, yet that sometimes they overflow,

677
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: and that's what Matt often cops. The problem is is

678
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 4: that there's no one else for her to direct that

679
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 4: at at the moment, So it is one hundred percent

680
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 4: all love for me and all hate for me, Like

681
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 4: I'm getting everything at the moment. Yeah, happy, she's four now,

682
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: Everyone who lit Lola? So she knows she can't hit me, right.

683
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: We've had many conversations about it because often when she

684
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 4: gets so like you know, upper level in terms of

685
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 4: like her anger or energy, the only way that she

686
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 4: kind of like explodes is that she starts hitting. She

687
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 4: either hits her sister or she hits me, and she

688
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 4: really really hits now, like she's quite a big little.

689
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: Mate. It really big wind up from across the room.

690
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, so she she hit me so hard in the face.

691
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 4: There was when I was talking about do you remember

692
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 4: the other week I was mentioning how she hit me

693
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 4: in the face. So we had some big chats about that.

694
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 4: She hasn't hit me since, but oh god, and oh

695
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 4: is it a butt?

696
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: So she what she hits?

697
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 4: So now she goes to hit me and I'm like,

698
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: you're not allowed to hit me, Lola like with stern voice,

699
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: and she gets so enraged by the fact that she

700
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: can't hit me and wants to that she goes and

701
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 4: then she'll turn around, grab her butt cheeks and just

702
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: moon me, just full cheek moon just and screaming whilst

703
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 4: whilst I have an angry little buttthole staring at me,

704
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 4: and she'll full moon me with the most aggressive moon

705
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 4: you have ever seen a toddler do.

706
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: How is that now? Her like coping Megan is and

707
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how we've got here

708
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: in public.

709
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: She only does it at home, and it's because she's

710
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 4: often naked, so like she never wears clothes this kid,

711
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 4: and I notice that she's always naked. But even when

712
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: she is not naked, she'll like, ah.

713
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: They try to rip her shirt off, RiPP her pants

714
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: down quick quick. I got to get my butt out.

715
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm so angry.

716
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: What the coping.

717
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: Mechanisms to moon me?

718
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: It's like a way of it's definitely her way of,

719
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: like I'm going to act out even more.

720
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: What do I need to do? Skin? Skin?

721
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: But I can't react to it, so like I can't.

722
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: It's actually really hard because I want to laugh, but

723
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 4: I can't do anything because I think if I get

724
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: annoyed at her or I react in anyway, she will

725
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 4: just in her head be like, oh cool, that's working.

726
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: I'll keep doing that.

727
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well it's funny. So that's it.

728
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: That's where we're at now.

729
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 4: Now we've gone from her hitting me to her full

730
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: blown mooning me.

731
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: I think every improvement, do you think? Yeah, I don't

732
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: know what I prefer.

733
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 3: I'm not going back to hitting me.

734
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: Can you stop that? Can you just hit me with

735
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: everything you've got? Please? If you could put more clothes

736
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: on and then hit me, that'd be great, preferently in

737
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: the eyes, so I'd never have to see that again.

738
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: That's good, that's good anyway.

739
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: My look, I think the naked thing is a second

740
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: child thing, and it like Macy.

741
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: They just don't give a fuck.

742
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't care, they.

743
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: Don't feel embarrassment, they don't feel anything.

744
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Macy has tried to be more helpful around the house.

745
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: I would say she doesn't really get angry. She's she's

746
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: very much at the moment where she talks back a

747
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: lot because I just don't think she gets it. It's infuriating.

748
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: What is she saying?

749
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: Just no?

750
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: She drives furiates me. I'm like, Macy, can you move now?

751
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: Fucking hell? Fuck me. But she started to try and

752
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: be more helpful around the house, which is great. So

753
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: she'll take things to the bin, she'll put things back

754
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: like where she thinks that they go.

755
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: That's kind of handy. She can get her to do stuff. Yeah,

756
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,239
Speaker 4: take your nappy to the bin and then they do it.

757
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: Do you find the nappy like in your bed?

758
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 1: Oh fucking well, Like I'll get out of the bed,

759
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: I'll roll over and I'll roll into a fucking nappy

760
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: from the night before.

761
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh Jesus.

762
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: But she blamed Macie because you left a nappy in

763
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 4: the bed.

764
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: And I'm blaming her, blaming the three year old. But

765
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: she she's gotten so helpful. The other day, I went

766
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 1: and got into the shower.

767
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: It's not a rare occurrence. I shower every day, so

768
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: you know, thank you.

769
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: I'm proud of you.

770
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: Thank you.

771
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: And she's learned how to open the door because April

772
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: she always walks in on April in the shower.

773
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: But she walked in on me to be helpful.

774
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: She rang, I left my phone in the lounge room,

775
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: and she thought that I might need it in the shower.

776
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: Because you're always on your phone.

777
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: No, she just thought that's it just belonged. I suppose

778
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: it belongs in my hand.

779
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: Damn.

780
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: Anyway, she actually walked in, she was like, dade it.

781
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: I was like like, move the shower curtain and I

782
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: was like yeah, Like what's up.

783
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: She's like, here you go.

784
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: She's like, you left your phone and I'm like, oh,

785
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: Like how do I get angry with her?

786
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: She's trying to be helpful. I'm like, not not in

787
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: the shower. She's like no, no, no, here go, and she

788
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: won't take no for an answer. So I'm standing there

789
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: in the shower holding my phone. The shower's on, and I.

790
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: Was like to Able, I'm like April, it's like what

791
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: Maces like okay, bye, and just like left me with

792
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: the phone in the shower and Abril just pokes it

793
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: everyd of the corn and she goes, I'll give it here,

794
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: take my phone.

795
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: My phone's drench.

796
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: I think it's I like this age.

797
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 4: I like the age because you can use it to

798
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 4: your advantage, Like it is helpful when you can call

799
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: out to your kid and they bring you things you're

800
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: like toilet reap. Yes, yes, that's the only reason I

801
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 4: had kids. There, I said it.

802
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: That wow.

803
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and also now you never have to be without

804
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: your phone, thanks Mabee.

805
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: She's actually waterlogged and water Cameron doesn't work anymore.

806
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 2: Thanks.

807
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: But I you know, when she was doing and I

808
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you do that thing where you go, oh,

809
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: thank you, like you want to encourage them being helpful

810
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: even though they're not. They're actually costing me thousands.

811
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 2: Of dollars for pretty much.

812
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: The toilet paper one is really good because yeah, I

813
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: used to be like April out a toilet paper and

814
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: she'd be like, oh half and puff and grunt and

815
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: carry on to make me feel bad about shitting.

816
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: Everyone shits. But then I'll be like, may see or

817
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: Oscar He's like, yeah.

818
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: The problem with asking a kid though, is then they

819
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 4: come into the bathroom then they never leave.

820
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: In the middle of doing a pol folds his arm,

821
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: leans on the world. Yes, what did you doing? That

822
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: was me this morning.

823
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 4: I was trying to do a bo when Molly came

824
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 4: in and wanted to tell me about her dream, and

825
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 4: I was like, let's have a chat.

826
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 3: Girlfriend.

827
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: She just sat on the floor in front of me,

828
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: and we had let's spill some tea. There's nowhere else

829
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 2: to go kill some tea where you drop off some pook.

830
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: Totally, that's exactly how it happened.

831
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 2: April.

832
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: Also, the kids like always go like, they don't walk

833
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: in on me and the toilet because I think, but

834
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: they always.

835
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: I always I walk past.

836
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: The toilet and doors open, and April's there doing a

837
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: week and I'm like, what are you doing? She's like,

838
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: I just thought it'd be easy if I just left

839
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: the door open. I'm like, why she's given up.

840
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 4: They're going to come in, and she's given up because

841
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 4: she knows exactly how this goes down.

842
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: That's what that is.

843
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: You can't see my toilet unless you're literally walking down

844
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: the hallway.

845
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: And then you're like, you.

846
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: Have your own toilets?

847
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: No? No, no, like, no, fuck off? How many bathrooms

848
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: you got we.

849
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: Live in a palace. Yeah, that's right. The castle has

850
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 2: like twelve bathrooms. Once for mummy, which is Ellie, once

851
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: for Matthew, it's my husband, shut up, I'm the kids,

852
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: and then there's the sweet that's mine.

853
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: So mine.

854
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: Do we have any questions?

855
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: No, hang on, I'm finished. Get to the barb fucking

856
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: fish boy, don't rush me anyway.

857
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: What was I saying?

858
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: I don't know something about doing a ship and your

859
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 3: kids watching?

860
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: Oh no, I always come around the corner. Well, I

861
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: come around the corner and April's on the toll and I'm.

862
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: Like you as then it scares you that she's on

863
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 3: the loop.

864
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was like, shut the door. None were, but.

865
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: Then we're a door open family. I don't care.

866
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: So okay, if April is taking a ship with the

867
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: door open, that's that's a no for me.

868
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: But doing away fine. The other day.

869
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: The other day she was doing away the door open,

870
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: and I made a laugh and she fared into a bowle.

871
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: Don't don't want this to be anyway.

872
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't care.

873
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: Let's get into some listener question.

874
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: Should we were moving on that quick? Whose podcast isn't there?

875
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: We're going to sit here all day and talk about ship.

876
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: We started with ship and we're ending the ship.

877
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: Okay, this is from Harley.

878
00:36:53,520 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: Harley, don't try all right, let me it is.

879
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: Harley says, we just found out we are having twins.

880
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: Damn can right?

881
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: No double the fun.

882
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: No, We're already have a nearly two year old, so

883
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: we'll have three under three.

884
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 2: Ah, any tips with twins?

885
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 4: Do you know who had a similar situation to this?

886
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: A woman named Tigan Natoli. She had basically had one

887
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 4: child and then had no twins, and then one or

888
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 4: one and then twins.

889
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: It must have been one of the twins, because like,

890
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: if you had twins and like I got two, then

891
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: like why would you have your third? No?

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Speaker 4: I think she like accidentally got pregnant, like literally was

893
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Speaker 4: in postpartum and accidentally got pregnant, like very very shortly afterwards. No,

894
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Speaker 4: but there's what I mean is is and the reason

895
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Speaker 4: why I'm bringing her up is because it might be

896
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Speaker 4: nice now for you to seek out people who are

897
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Speaker 4: on social media who have been in similar situations.

898
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Speaker 3: And she's talked about it a lot.

899
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Speaker 4: She works for Mama Mia, who's a competing podcast, but

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Speaker 4: she works for them and has done a lot of

901
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: write ups around what it was to parent like three

902
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 4: children under the age of two, Like what an insanity,

903
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 4: insane thing that they had to do. But they survived it,

904
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Speaker 4: and you know, they have this beautiful family and the

905
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Speaker 4: kids are now all a little bit older, and they

906
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Speaker 4: had this amazing relationship. And you know, I think the

907
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Speaker 4: first few years you don't need anyone to tell you

908
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Speaker 4: how hard that's going to be.

909
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Speaker 3: It's going to be super hard.

910
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Speaker 4: But then you're going to get to the phase of

911
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 4: when your youngest are two and they're all friends and

912
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: they can all bring you to all the paper at

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Speaker 4: the one time and genuinely like.

914
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Speaker 2: Just sit at the same time. You'll all be there

915
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Speaker 2: with a full audience to watch.

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Speaker 4: But the thing is is like the really really hard

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Speaker 4: intensity of that early parenting part, like which I don't

918
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Speaker 4: think anyone unless they've lived the experience of having twins

919
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: can give you advice on that is not forever. And

920
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 4: sometimes it feels like it's forever when you're in it,

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00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: and then you wake up one day and your kids

922
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Speaker 4: are going to school.

923
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Speaker 3: You know, it just it does. It doesn't last.

924
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Speaker 1: It's not not going to be hard like that, like

925
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: regardless whether it's one. It's like it's hard with one,

926
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Speaker 1: just like what you're doing with that one. It's just

927
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Speaker 1: going to be double.

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Speaker 4: Like surely there has to be like community groups on Facebook,

929
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 4: and and I think like seeking out people who are

930
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 4: in the same situation is going to be like the

931
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Speaker 4: most the most comforting thing that you can do, because

932
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 4: it's going to remind you that, Okay, you're going to

933
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 4: be all right and you're going to get through this bit.

934
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Speaker 1: It's important to not feel to not feel that you're

935
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: alone in it.

936
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: You're the only one experiencing that.

937
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Speaker 1: And that's usually when we talk about vulnerable situations and

938
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Speaker 1: stuff like that, it's people saying I thought I was

939
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Speaker 1: the only one. So my advice, I don't have twins,

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Speaker 1: My advice is, yes, seek out other people just so

941
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Speaker 1: that you can feel normal, right, but also like give

942
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: yourselves a break as intense as it's going to be

943
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: just checking with each other all the time. Yeah, because

944
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Speaker 1: it's going to be intense.

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Speaker 4: Also, I mean, I guess like the other thing now

946
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Speaker 4: is is like you know, you're pregnant, you're having babies,

947
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 4: they're coming in nine months. It is also nine months

948
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Speaker 4: to prepare for what additional support you might have around you,

949
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Speaker 4: whether that's how other people in your life can show

950
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: up to help you know, whether it's grandparents or figuring

951
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 4: out daycare or does those what do those other support

952
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 4: systems look like? Because I think everyone needs to have those.

953
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 4: Usually it's not until you're in the depths of parenting

954
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 4: that you realize, Fuck, I'm doing this all on my

955
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: own and I need some help. But I think if

956
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 4: you've got twins, it's probably going to be harder for

957
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 4: you to implement them after the fact. So like having

958
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 4: those really honest conversations with the people around you who

959
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 4: you might be able to lead on to see what

960
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: they like, how you can navigate this period if you

961
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Speaker 4: need the help, would probably be the biggest that got

962
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Speaker 4: the biggest conversations to have now that you could, I

963
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 4: think as well, but far out. Honestly, twins. I struggle

964
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Speaker 4: with having two kids really really close in age for

965
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Speaker 4: the first eighteen months, but then it came. It got

966
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Speaker 4: really good after that, But that first eighteen months was part.

967
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Speaker 4: And you know, it comes down to whether you've got

968
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: good sleepers or good eaters or good like you can

969
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 4: get unicorn babies akamally, and then you can get like

970
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 4: devil spawn sleepers like Lola who will only sleep if

971
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Speaker 4: they're sitting up right.

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Speaker 3: You know, like there's total on you.

973
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Speaker 4: There's totally different experiences of what a kid is and

974
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 4: ninety nine point nine percent of it comes down to sleeping.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, And like I said.

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Speaker 1: My advice is give yourselves a break and don't go

977
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: so hard on yourself if you feel like you've if

978
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: you feel you're in the thick of it and you're

979
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: doing something wrong, like just go easy on yourself a little,

980
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: because it's nothing worse than a baby telling you you're

981
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: doing the wrong thing, and then you get in your

982
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: own head and you're like, am I do I not

983
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: know how to do that?

984
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: It just makes it worse.

985
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: So just give yourself an opportunity to find people in

986
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: like minded situations so that you don't feel alone.

987
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I can't even imagine that moment of

988
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: sitting in the ultrasundroom and being like, holy shit, it's

989
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 4: twins and we have a baby at home.

990
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: Wild I don't Yeah, thankfully I've had a sex with me.

991
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, like, I know you love talking about it, Ash,

992
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 4: but like about and I talking about whether you're wanting.

993
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 2: To get another running a third.

994
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 4: Imagine if we ended up with twins and we ended

995
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 4: up with four kids, you name.

996
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: One of them after me?

997
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: No, Laura, as always, thank you for filling in the

998
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: void that is your husband.

999
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: Nobody can fill those shoes.

1000
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: I think you did a pretty good job.

1001
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: Thank you, and also guys like thanks.

1002
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 4: I've had some nice messages from people who have listened,

1003
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 4: so I really thank you to nobody.

1004
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 3: For sending me meet one. So I appreciate that.

1005
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need it for this self.

1006
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: A lot of people have been like, oh, it's great,

1007
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: so see later, Matus be me, must be me.

1008
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: Matt Harrison, you can run away again. I have your

1009
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: own podcast.

1010
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: No, guys, it's been a real treat. Thank you so

1011
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: much for having me. And maybe next week I'll be

1012
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 4: in the South African jungle.

1013
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: Meant to Matt, maybe you join me.

1014
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: But that it would be very funny. Make sure you

1015
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Speaker 1: do vote. You can vote up to ten times a day,

1016
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: although a friend of mine voted twenty two times yesterday.

1017
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1018
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: Absolutely so if you haven't seen, you can go on

1019
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 4: to ten play and you can vote to save.

1020
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Speaker 3: Matt for I'm a celebrity. Like the votes really count now.

1021
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 4: But the thing is is you can keep voting and

1022
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: then you can refresh the page and vote again. It

1023
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 4: says you can only vote ten times, but I voted

1024
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 4: upward of twenty times some days. You just keep voting

1025
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 4: until you get a message that says you have exhausted

1026
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 4: all votes because you might get an error message. Just refrash, regain,

1027
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 4: go again, go again until you see that you have

1028
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 4: exhausted all votes message and that's it.

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00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: That's great.

1030
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: Wow, dis guys.

1031
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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you miss you.

1032
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: As well, we haven't finished yet. Sorry, you never know.

1033
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: Next week we.

1034
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: Have Nick Cody on the on the pod who's filling

1035
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: in for Matt and Laura that you potentially won't be here.

1036
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: We'll find out.

1037
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: Anyways, what a suspenseful hook that was.

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00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

1039
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Speaker 1: If you enjoy this episode, please leave us a review

1040
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: five stars. If you like, leave us a little message

1041
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: for Laura.

1042
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: She loves it.

1043
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: Otherwise, join us on socials, which is two darting Dad's

1044
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: Instagram TikTok, and of course in space.

1045
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Speaker 4: I think you guys still have some calendars. We're getting

1046
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 4: a bit deep in the year now. Maybe we'll discount

1047
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 4: them soon, but us off and get your calendars for

1048
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 4: the Rauntry Ranch.

1049
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: Yes, all the money goes to Rise Up, a charity

1050
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: that helps victims and families that are by domestic violence.

1051
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1052
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 4: So you don't even have to use the calendar. You

1053
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 4: can just cut out the pictures of Ash and Matt

1054
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 4: and put them up on your wall.

1055
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 2: Cute. Yeah, very cute.

1056
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: Anyway, guys, that's it from us. Thank you, bye bye.

1057
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Speaker 2: Yeah you do.

1058
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 4: I actually do podcasting, so well you're back to you,

1059
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Speaker 4: you really are.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Can we snip that up please, I'd love

1061
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Speaker 2: to keep that bit you do podcasting.

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Speaker 4: You're a fantastic podcast so that any time like you

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Speaker 4: shit me, I'm like remember this.

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Speaker 2: Sorry. Two Doting dads.

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Speaker 4: Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and

1066
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Speaker 4: the connections to land, see and community.

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Speaker 1: We pay our respects to their elders past and present

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Speaker 1: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestraight Islander

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Speaker 1: people's today