1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Now a bushfire into volunteer bushfires. Int volunteers had their 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: car stolen while they are out battling bushfires near Epinara. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Member for Barkley, Steve Edgington, had posted on social media 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: that the stolen car is a white Master single ut cab. 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: Additionally that two other volunteers had been ransacked and damaged 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: their cars as well. Now he reckons it's been over 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: two years since two public meetings were held in Tenant 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Creek to try and tackle the ongoing crime issues, and 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: that the information that has been passed on to the 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Chief Minister to develop a new community safety action plan 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: has been passed on, but there's been no developments. Now 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: joining me on the line to talk more about the 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: situation is the Member for Barkley, Steve Edgington. Good morning 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: to you, Steve. 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: Good morning Katy, and good morning to all the listeners. 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: Stevie, you're coming to us this morning from sunny Tenant Creek. 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: How's the weather now? 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: I'm up in Elliott this morning, Cody. I've just driven 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: from Tenant Creek to Elliott to catch up with constituents 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: here and atten day local authority meeting here in Elliott. 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: So that'll be kicking off in about twenty five minutes. 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: Well, we won't keep it for too long. Then it 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: sounds like you're busy, busy, Steve, Now tell me, I 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: mean we had this situation where obviously one of these vehicles, 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: the Bushfires into volunteers vehicle was stolen while they were 26 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: fighting a fire. What exactly has gone on here? 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: Oh, look, it's absolutely devastating, Katie. At the moment, there's 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: a very large bushfire going on just near the Berkley 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 2: homestead and it's sort of southeast from there around near 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: the Appinari area. But it's about a four thousand square 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: kilometer bushfire. It's absolutely massive at the moment. So there's 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: a lot of station workers, volunteers, and about five volunteers 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: from the local bushfires unit went out there on it 34 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: must have been Tuesday, So they went out there and 35 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: they did a lot of work out there at Epinara. 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: And while they're out there overnight, the bushfires unit in 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: Tenant Creek was broken into and one of the volunteers 38 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: lost their personal vehicles, so that was stolen from the 39 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: Bushfires unit in Tenant Creek, but there was also damage 40 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: caused to two other vehicles as well, which belonged to volunteers. 41 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: So you know, this is absolutely devastating for the volunteers. 42 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: They're out there volunteering their time to protect life and property, 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: only to return to the loss of their own property 44 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: and damage to vehicles. So look, it's very frustrating. And 45 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 2: when I went out there yesterday morning and I spoke 46 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: to the captain of the volunteer unit, I could see 47 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: it in his eyes. He was absolutely devastated and really 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: angry that this had happened. 49 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: Well wouldn't you be, I mean, what a kick in 50 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: the guts out there trying to fight a fire and 51 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: keep the community safe and then for that to happen 52 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: is appalling. 53 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, And you know these are the sort of 54 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: things that really impact on people that are out there 55 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: volunteering their time. And you know, when these things happen volunteers, 56 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: I believe that and talking to them, they have second 57 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: thoughts about whether they really want to continue volunteering. When 58 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: they basically get a kick in the guts for going 59 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: out and volunteering their time. It's really bad. 60 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: So, Steve, where are things that in terms of this 61 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: vehicle and the damage, has it been found or has 62 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: it been seen anywhere. 63 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, the vehicle has been found, Katie. And you know, 64 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: this is even worse news because the vehicle was found 65 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: on the northern side of the Tenet Creek Airport. It's 66 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: crashed through a fence, and the early early assessment is 67 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: basically indicating that this vehicle is a right off. So look, 68 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: it's you know, the guy that's lost his vehicle. I 69 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: know him personally, well known around town, and he's essentially 70 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: lost his vehicle, and you know what's he going to do? 71 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: And these are the unknown things at the moment. I 72 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: haven't had a chance to speak with him as yet 73 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: to find out about insurance. But the inconvenience now of 74 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: not having a vehicle, the inconvenience of having to try 75 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 2: and get it towed away get it. I don't think 76 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: it can be fixed from what I've seen. I did 77 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: see a photo of it, and it's in extremely a 78 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: poor condition. It's been damaged completely, so I don't think 79 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: it'll drive again. 80 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so incredibly frustrating. And again I go 81 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: back to the fact that you're talking about a volunteer 82 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: here who is trying to help people to stay safe 83 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: with that fire fighting. That fire and then for this 84 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: to happen is appalling, Steve. You know, we've had many 85 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: issues Intendant Creek and around the area when it comes 86 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: to crime. As I understand that there were public meetings 87 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: that were held in Tenant. How long ago were they 88 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: and have you got any information on, you know, where 89 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: things are at with some of the concerns that were 90 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: raised and passed on to the Chief Minister's office. Yeah. 91 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: Look, I've constantly raised these issues and the escalating crime 92 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: rates that we see here. And look, Katie, just over 93 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: the last seven years, house breakings are up two hundred 94 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: and ninety two percent. Now, this is that these statistics 95 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: are absolutely incredible. Commercial break ins that we saw, you know, 96 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: just the other night, and it wasn't just the bushfires, Counsel, 97 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: there was other businesses on that road that were broken 98 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: into and have suffered loss as well. But commercial breakings 99 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: over the last seven years are up for nearly forty 100 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: eight percent. But when it comes to motor vehicles being 101 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: stolen and other offenses that relate to interfering with motor vehicles, 102 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: that's up another one hundred and thirty eight percent. So 103 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: these statistics that we're seeing are just shows that the 104 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: level of crime has just been escalating year on year out. 105 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: And it was two years ago in March April of 106 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one that there was two public meetings because 107 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: many of the community they're saying enough enough. And two 108 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: years ago there was two public meetings and a whole 109 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 2: range of feedback was collated and given to the Chief 110 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: Minister's Office who assured everybody that they would be developing 111 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: a new community safety plan for Tenant Creek. And you know, 112 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: when I talk about community safety plans, I talk about 113 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: a whole of government, whole of community plan where all 114 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: of the government non government sector can be involved in 115 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: implementing that plan. So it's a matter of sitting down 116 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: working at what's best to drive down crime, having everybody 117 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: working together, more coordination, variation, stronger partnerships to drive down crime. 118 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: But we're still waiting now were I think it was 119 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: July twenty twenty one, all of the feedback was given 120 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: to the government and there's still no whole of government, 121 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: whole of community community safety plan. It's just it's just 122 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: not good enough. 123 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: No, it's not. 124 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: Something needs to be done about the crime intenant creepure. 125 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look you know, we talk often up here 126 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: in the top end about the issues that we've got 127 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: with crime. You know, we've spoken at different times about 128 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: what goes on in Alla Springs, but very often we 129 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: don't hear, you know, here in Darwin exactly what is 130 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: going on in Tenant. And that's not through you know, 131 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: that's that is realistically just through the tyranny of distance 132 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: and the fact that we you know, we don't broadcast 133 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: all the way out there. I know there are people 134 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: in Tennant that listen, but it's you know, it is 135 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: it's not okay. It's not okay to still be waiting 136 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: two years later for that Community Action Plan and for 137 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, all community safety action plan, and like you said, 138 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: it's something that everybody wants to be involved in. It's 139 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: not just a reliance on the Northern Territory government. This 140 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: is about getting everybody together and trying to sort through 141 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: this issue. 142 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: Oh look exactly. And you know some of the retric 143 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: that I hear in Parliament from the government so that 144 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: they constantly say, you know, colp the opposition doesn't come 145 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: up with solutions that all they do is want to complain. 146 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: But this is a call from the public, public feedback 147 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: around what needs to be done to reduce crime, and 148 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: the government just isn't listening to the people in Tenant Creek. 149 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: I've raised issues in Parliament, not only about a community 150 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 2: safety plan, I've raised issues about CCTV and Tenant Creek. 151 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: There's probably been close to a million dollars invested in CCTV, 152 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: but the sad thing about having CCTV is that it's 153 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: not monitored constantly, and all it's doing is picking up 154 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: people committing crimes after the damage is done, after property 155 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: sole and after people are inconvenienced. These are the things 156 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 2: that need to be used to prevent crime. It's all 157 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: about crime prevention and dealing with the offenders in a 158 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: way that can bring justice and bring closure to victims 159 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: in Chanet Creek. But this seems to be going on 160 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: and on and on without any commitment from the government. 161 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: Steve, we are going to have to wrap up. But 162 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: I do want to ask you. We just spoke to 163 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: Vince Kelly, the man charged with who's obviously he is 164 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: going to be conducting that review into the Northern Territory 165 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: Police and it is going to be extensive. What are 166 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: you hoping that this review really determines and outlines. 167 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: Well, I think there's a whole range of things. And 168 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: you know clearly the police are short staffed at the moment, 169 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: So a proper resource review, in my view, we'll look 170 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: at some of the technology that police is using, things 171 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: like CCTV, how can it be better used to prevent crime? 172 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: What resources are needed to monitor things like cameras. But 173 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: when I look at my area four hundred and forty 174 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: eight thousand square kilometers, I've got many areas in the 175 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 2: remote areas that really need better community safety measures in place. 176 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: Look at the our parule and police station was closed 177 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: down by the Labor government back in February twenty eighteen, 178 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: so they've been without a police service for over five 179 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: and a half years now. These are the things that 180 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: need to be looked at as part of the review. 181 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: What structures, what resources, what infrastructure is needed in the 182 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: Bush to bring better community safety measures right around the territory. So, look, 183 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: the Bush is hurting. We know right across the board 184 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: the lack of policing. But I'll tell you what, there 185 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: needs to be a greater focus in the Bush to 186 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: see what's needed and not only short term, medium term, 187 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: but over the longer term, what's going to be best 188 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 2: for the people of the Northern Territory. 189 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: Well, Steve Edgington, the Member four Berkley, we really appreciate 190 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: your time this morning. Thanks very much for having a 191 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: chat to us, and no doubt we'll talk to you 192 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: again very soon. 193 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie, and thanks for the opportunity to discuss 194 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 2: some of these issues. And good morning to all the listeners. 195 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: Thanks Steve. That's Steve Edgington there, indeed the member for Berkley. 196 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: And you know how appalling isn't it that you've got 197 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: a situation where those volunteers have gone out to be 198 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: able to help to stop that bush fire, to be 199 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: able to keep people safe, and to then have your 200 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: vehicle stolen and others damaged. I just think it's appalling 201 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: and a real kick in the guts for those people 202 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: that were out there working