Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Fromes. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms catch up podcast.
Speaker 2: The Sweety Pies. The Girlies are back. You know what
Speaker 2: I think we should bring back. Could be controversial, could
Speaker 2: not be. I want people to start loitering outside more
Speaker 2: and I need things outside to make that possible, like trees, shade,
Speaker 2: flowers and music. It's there's nothing like walking down a
Speaker 2: street in London, let's say South London. Okay, the vibe
Speaker 2: is up, people are outside. It might be a street party. Yes,
Speaker 2: there might be a street party. There's music, people are
Speaker 2: being yahoos. The energy of what people do communal gardens
Speaker 2: here in Australia is just very lethargic. Sit down, lie down,
Speaker 2: sit down, lie down.
Speaker 1: Top the drums at North Bonday on a Sunday.
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's the vibe I'm after. Okay, Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: and we can thank ethnic people for that.
Speaker 1: That's on that. Let's get to the show.
Speaker 2: Oh but today on the show we name our cult
Speaker 2: and we also have I said we meet me with
Speaker 2: the dating advice to end all dating advice.
Speaker 3: You might never talk about dating again after this.
Speaker 1: Well, go Flex and Frooms on kit Flex and I
Speaker 1: are deep in the trenches trying to organize a cult.
Speaker 1: The C word. Often when you think of a cult,
Speaker 1: we're thinking of horrible, horrible things where bad things have happened,
Speaker 1: but no, cults can also be a sense of community
Speaker 1: for those of us who are way wide.
Speaker 3: We're just trying to formalize what we're doing here.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is what it is, isn't it. Anyway,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks so we began this journey and
Speaker 1: we decided who's going to be the leader of the cult.
Speaker 1: Flex put her hand up.
Speaker 3: M Producing Mickey, please jump on the mic and explain
Speaker 3: what happened.
Speaker 4: I gave you a test.
Speaker 3: Fumi didn't do it, which meant.
Speaker 5: That Flex became the leader.
Speaker 1: Some would say, you of Fremy's leadership skills weaponized incompetence,
Speaker 1: that's the true leader right there. Anyway, I came up
Speaker 1: with a name. It was called the munch Kings, and
Speaker 1: that refers to munchkins, which is a cute type of
Speaker 1: person as well as kings, because we have some innate power.
Speaker 1: And then the sub the.
Speaker 3: Sublime queens never came up though, No, because.
Speaker 1: Munchkins kings, and also we're taking some elements of the
Speaker 1: patriarchy because it is ingrained.
Speaker 3: Because it does work. I know you're gonna say.
Speaker 1: And also the subline is no munches, but we do munchies,
Speaker 1: but not when high or drunk, you know, like sober munchies.
Speaker 2: All right, said we'd workshop that we weren't ruling it
Speaker 2: out completely, but we did feel that our devoted audience
Speaker 2: would be able to come up with some better options
Speaker 2: for us, and Micky did they.
Speaker 5: There's definitely something I really like.
Speaker 4: Okay, please take the mic take us through Okay, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 4: creator to ic, which is a role I always thought
Speaker 4: would be good in retail to icee ye a.
Speaker 3: Second, it is good.
Speaker 5: Can confirm okay, some of our suggestions from the audience
Speaker 5: we had the redacted.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, very good. I love that FREX What does
Speaker 1: that mean?
Speaker 3: Hey? I listened to artists on Spotify called Frex.
Speaker 1: F e X and all our meetings are on Rex airlines.
Speaker 3: No flex are frooms?
Speaker 1: Okay, Ossie?
Speaker 3: Cult like the F e O localize?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 1: Like said that I.
Speaker 5: S S S S the third space for we're not
Speaker 5: cult members, prioritize getting near it and bonding with each other.
Speaker 1: The third space. That's genius.
Speaker 5: Okay, we have cult.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what we.
Speaker 5: Call members, frexies, flex frooms plus sexies, oh.
Speaker 1: Fras, flex and frames.
Speaker 3: I get it. You didn't get that the first time.
Speaker 1: Rex Airlines, good Brandy.
Speaker 5: A couple more redacted, and then we have a the
Speaker 5: brand is quite clear. Then anything but munchkins.
Speaker 3: Please.
Speaker 1: The thing though, guys like, as a community, we need
Speaker 1: to build each other up. And I put my back out.
Speaker 1: I'm always the person in the class asking the dumb question.
Speaker 3: I am too, Why do you think we're here?
Speaker 1: So there was one that was redacted, then there was
Speaker 1: one called They're getting near it type one.
Speaker 3: What was that called third space? Is that what we like?
Speaker 3: I like third.
Speaker 1: I reckon third space is the like the.
Speaker 5: Byeline, which was something I was going to ask you
Speaker 5: guys about. So the third space is the byeline, but
Speaker 5: it's not the name of the cult.
Speaker 1: It's called redacted with the two brackets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: Also, I just want to say, I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: knew what redacted.
Speaker 2: Men, which is I don't know, why would you think that?
Speaker 2: Have we not watched this law and order the same
Speaker 2: FBI case files X files at the.
Speaker 1: Same point nine to five redacted wasn't part of that school.
Speaker 5: I think. I think of like documentaries where the yeah,
Speaker 5: we are your out and they're like.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the CIA military, which is a very similar cousin.
Speaker 1: If you will to sick Si C.
Speaker 2: Let's shout out the people who have done us the
Speaker 2: honor of naming our community.
Speaker 5: KM mox yep five am, wake up, call you Aloha, mummy.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your service. This is what it's all about.
Speaker 2: People doing the work with us, for.
Speaker 1: Us, for the greater good. We see it.
Speaker 3: Oh, the work does not go unnoticed.
Speaker 1: Shout out real quickly. Yeah to Indy my favorite listener.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, you've got a favorite listener.
Speaker 2: Yeah ATM So you can't imagine how parents have favorites,
Speaker 2: but you've chosen a favorite flexen rooms listener. I came
Speaker 2: across this TikTok from a creator called Katrina Sergu who
Speaker 2: makes all these videos so you can test your morality.
Speaker 2: So I thought we'd listen to on and then talk
Speaker 2: about what we do in the situation.
Speaker 6: Okay, let's test your morality. You are at home, laying
Speaker 6: in bed one night while your five year old nieces
Speaker 6: in the other room asleep. Your sibling asks you to
Speaker 6: babysit her for the night while they go out of town.
Speaker 6: As you're laying in bed, you hear loud banging from
Speaker 6: your front door. You look at the time and it
Speaker 6: is one am. You quietly rush to the door, peeking out,
Speaker 6: only to see a woman bloodied, bruised, and in distress.
Speaker 6: You talk through the door and ask if she's okay.
Speaker 6: She tells you that someone broke into her home and
Speaker 6: is trying to end her life. She is begging you
Speaker 6: to open the door because the intruder knows that she
Speaker 6: ran out of the house and is looking for her.
Speaker 6: As you are contemplating on opening the door, you look
Speaker 6: up and see a large, six foot man in all
Speaker 6: black and a ski mask running towards the woman with
Speaker 6: a knife. The woman looks back at you and is
Speaker 6: screaming and begging for you to open the door before
Speaker 6: the man gets to her. You have seconds to make
Speaker 6: your decision. Do you open the door and bring the
Speaker 6: woman inside, putting you and your niece's life in danger
Speaker 6: of the man breaking down your door and attacking you
Speaker 6: as well, or do you leave the woman outside, calling
Speaker 6: the cuffs and protecting you and your niece, but knowing
Speaker 6: that the man will catch up to the woman, possibly
Speaker 6: ending her life in front of you.
Speaker 2: All I have to say is sorry to that woman,
Speaker 2: because it's not going to be me. It really isn't.
Speaker 2: I just feel like life is fragile. On the best
Speaker 2: of days, it is fragile. We take risks, constantly crossing
Speaker 2: the road, going to work, eating out. In that situation,
Speaker 2: what one might view as the victim. Now you're putting
Speaker 2: me in danger. Do all three of us have to die?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: And I got five year old niece and he even
Speaker 2: to be honest, they really try to get you with
Speaker 2: the five year old niece.
Speaker 3: Remove the niece.
Speaker 2: Just put me in my own home receiving a knock
Speaker 2: on the door from a bloodied and battered person at
Speaker 2: one am.
Speaker 3: Life is not the movies.
Speaker 1: I don't think I could live myself, would live with
Speaker 1: myself if I didn't open the door, Yeah I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I think I would open it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with flex the Niee situation. I don't want
Speaker 5: to be responsible for exposing her to this. Like I
Speaker 5: think if had the niece not been there, I think
Speaker 5: I'd be a fumi. But because the niece was there,
Speaker 5: I was like, she's sleeping, baby girls sleeping.
Speaker 2: I think of lesser circumstances where people would not do anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and there's no danger to them. How many times you've
Speaker 2: been a bystander when you see someone telling off someone,
Speaker 2: someone getting kind of violent, You're like, ah, I don't
Speaker 2: know what to do. That looks kind of dangerous, but
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do it. You think, after I've seen
Speaker 2: the result of the violence and the perpetrator coming to
Speaker 2: finish off the job, that now I'm going to step in.
Speaker 3: Nah, no, no, no.
Speaker 5: I'll call the police. Oh, triple zero, but I might
Speaker 5: not let you inside.
Speaker 3: And I'll record for evidence. I'll pass that on.
Speaker 1: Okay, your record.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna pretend I don't hear something or
Speaker 2: no something, but I'm definitely not intervening. It is like
Speaker 2: and rooms on Kita. Bear with me when I say
Speaker 2: this next phrase. You you and you lived in your
Speaker 2: grandmother at one point to morequeen, Well, it all has
Speaker 2: to do with this TikTok video I saw from a
Speaker 2: verified source a doctor. So they say, doctor Kanna.
Speaker 7: Fun fact, A part of you started life inside your grandmother.
Speaker 7: When a woman is pregnant with a female fetus. That
Speaker 7: fetus will develop all the eggs it will ever have.
Speaker 7: One of those eggs ultimately contributed to developing you. So
Speaker 7: every woman pregnant with a girl is potentially carrying part
Speaker 7: of their grandchildren to a biological Russian doll.
Speaker 6: What's this?
Speaker 7: Womb seption is fascinating. This next bit is trippy. This
Speaker 7: also means the prenated exposure, So the environment a pregnant
Speaker 7: woman is exposed to has the potential to directly impact
Speaker 7: three generation that includes the mother fetus, and if the
Speaker 7: fetus is a girl, all her immature excels.
Speaker 2: Anyway, do you hear what he's saying that the lifestyle
Speaker 2: your grandma lived has the ability to impact your current
Speaker 2: lifestyle due to epigenetics.
Speaker 3: What does that mean? You ask?
Speaker 1: What does it mean?
Speaker 2: Love?
Speaker 1: Please doctor flex mummy.
Speaker 2: Epigenetics is the study of how your behaviors and environment
Speaker 2: can cause changes that affect the way your genes work,
Speaker 2: and so different lifestyle behaviors can affect or modify your
Speaker 2: epigenetic patterns.
Speaker 1: We should say this is a very new area of research.
Speaker 2: Well, it's new and controversial in the sense that can
Speaker 2: it be conjecture is a correlation versus causation. Not quite sure,
Speaker 2: but it's all just information. Do with it what you will,
Speaker 2: like you already do with information what you will. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this was peer reviewed, and you're
Speaker 2: like lies anyway. The fact is such as diet, obesity,
Speaker 2: physical activity, tobacco, smoking, alcohol consumption, environmental pollutants, psychological stress,
Speaker 2: and working night shifts. Damn, my mama was working nice?
Speaker 2: Do you hear they say people who work shift? People
Speaker 2: who do shift work are more likely to I think
Speaker 2: it reduces like at least a couple of years of
Speaker 2: your life. So what does it mean for me that
Speaker 2: mum work shifts? What if I'm working night she's on
Speaker 2: the Nintendo switch?
Speaker 1: Riddle me that, you know what? I will say. I
Speaker 1: have been researching this personally for my book.
Speaker 3: I just was processing you for so long.
Speaker 1: There, no, because it turns out. So let's say you're
Speaker 1: tall a long time researching for what my book turns out. Okay,
Speaker 1: Let's say your grandma grew up in a famine.
Speaker 2: Don't call her I her name like that, do your grandma?
Speaker 2: Because why is my grandma growing up in a famine?
Speaker 2: Do your grandma? Let's say frooms's grandma lived in a famine.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's say my grandma famine. Stop it. What happens
Speaker 1: is it often the child ends up having even if
Speaker 1: they're in an abundant environment with food, they can then
Speaker 1: experience obesity because of eating habits. Well no, no, no, even that,
Speaker 1: but as an epigenic moment, because the parent had to
Speaker 1: like reserve all the energy and then so when the
Speaker 1: kid eats regularly, they're reserving all of the energy. Getting
Speaker 1: that completely wrong. But with you from conclusive five minute
Speaker 1: research thus far, I.
Speaker 2: Will go back to say that epigenetics is controversial because
Speaker 2: people claim it will cause everyone to be quite reductionists
Speaker 2: in how they view their lifestyle currently and what impact
Speaker 2: them today. So like to be a reductionist is to
Speaker 2: take these really complex phenomenons and try and describe them
Speaker 2: and really reduce simple terms which might have been what
Speaker 2: you were doing just then potentially.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't mean research.
Speaker 1: Research would example be okay, has this your grandparent had
Speaker 1: an illness of whatever variety, and then you have the
Speaker 1: same illness and you attribute it to them. However, you
Speaker 1: only got fifty percent of their genes anyway, and as
Speaker 1: we know with Jenes you only get you don't get
Speaker 1: necessarily fifty percent your mum fifty percent of your dad.
Speaker 1: You might get seventy percent mom fifty percent. I don't know.
Speaker 3: No, you ate that. That's so good.
Speaker 2: The thing that people don't like about a reductionist approach
Speaker 2: is that it causes stereotyping. So because certain demographics group
Speaker 2: in this environment, they act this way, and that's what
Speaker 2: people want to get away from.
Speaker 3: I hadn't even thought of it. It's true. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: not surprised.
Speaker 2: Wrap it up, Wrap it up. You have flexi frooms
Speaker 2: on Catera. It is flex and frooms on CATA. We
Speaker 2: are in a pandemic, an endemic on an epidemic. I'm
Speaker 2: not quite sure. Maybe it's just a phenomenon of people
Speaker 2: confused about their dating circumstances. We might say it's a
Speaker 2: tail as old as time. It's always been confusing, but
Speaker 2: the rate of confusion is astronomical and it needs to stop.
Speaker 2: I'm sick and tired, but also very enthused and entertained
Speaker 2: by people's dating woes. You want to talk about your situationship.
Speaker 3: Do they like me? Do they not like me? I
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 2: If you're confused as to whether someone likes you or not,
Speaker 2: you need to run your situation through this fail safe
Speaker 2: fail safe trifector. Okay, are you ready when I tell
Speaker 2: you this? You have to stay with this information and
Speaker 2: do not falter. Don't convince yourself Otherwise. If you're confused
Speaker 2: as to whether you like someone or if someone likes you,
Speaker 2: ask yourself this question. Do they invest their time, money,
Speaker 2: and effort slash enthusiasm slash energy on me? Do I
Speaker 2: invest my time, money, energy, slash effort slash enthusiasm on them?
Speaker 2: I promise you if you come up with a no
Speaker 2: for one of those, it's dead.
Speaker 3: Even when it's.
Speaker 1: You you onto them, it's dead. Okay, I'm confused, you would.
Speaker 3: Be and it shows.
Speaker 2: And I've said here. If you're confused, start here and
Speaker 2: stay here. Don't try and think yourself out of what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Time, money, effort, energy, enthusiasm.
Speaker 1: Do you think the people play hard to get?
Speaker 3: How have we gotten here?
Speaker 1: Because this is what I'm saying, Like maybe wants to
Speaker 1: spend more time and energy and money, but they're like,
Speaker 1: don't want to come on too strong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people play hard to get?
Speaker 1: And do you think we should abolish that.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Probably, I must admit I'm sometimes playing a game War two.
Speaker 3: She's a joker, boys, she's a joker.
Speaker 2: Look, I always they have fun with it. But a
Speaker 2: lot of people are having fun, and it's clear. That's
Speaker 2: what I would say, you're in distress.
Speaker 1: If you're in distress and uress and the starting to
Speaker 1: yip you up to your friends is becoming on fun
Speaker 1: and they're saying, are you gonna get it now? A're
Speaker 1: you gonna doat it now? It's time to walk away.
Speaker 2: These, I would say. The reason why I like these
Speaker 2: metrics because they're quantifiable. Yeah, you know, you can say
Speaker 2: like time, like are you talking frequently on the calls
Speaker 2: on the face times? Are the dates pumping money? Are
Speaker 2: you investing in the experiences in yourself? But the effort,
Speaker 2: energy and enthusiasm, you can quantify it if you want to,
Speaker 2: But you can also sell yourself a lie. In the effort, energy, enthusiasm.
Speaker 2: You know what it is when you see it, Stop
Speaker 2: lying to yourself.
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