WEBVTT - You Lived In Your Grandma 👵

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Fromes. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>The Sweety Pies. The Girlies are back. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I think we should bring back. Could be controversial, could

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<v Speaker 2>not be. I want people to start loitering outside more

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<v Speaker 2>and I need things outside to make that possible, like trees, shade,

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<v Speaker 2>flowers and music. It's there's nothing like walking down a

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<v Speaker 2>street in London, let's say South London. Okay, the vibe

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<v Speaker 2>is up, people are outside. It might be a street party. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there might be a street party. There's music, people are

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<v Speaker 2>being yahoos. The energy of what people do communal gardens

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<v Speaker 2>here in Australia is just very lethargic. Sit down, lie down,

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<v Speaker 2>sit down, lie down.

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<v Speaker 1>Top the drums at North Bonday on a Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well that's the vibe I'm after. Okay, Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can thank ethnic people for that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's on that. Let's get to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but today on the show we name our cult

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<v Speaker 2>and we also have I said we meet me with

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<v Speaker 2>the dating advice to end all dating advice.

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<v Speaker 3>You might never talk about dating again after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, go Flex and Frooms on kit Flex and I

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<v Speaker 1>are deep in the trenches trying to organize a cult.

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<v Speaker 1>The C word. Often when you think of a cult,

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<v Speaker 1>we're thinking of horrible, horrible things where bad things have happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, cults can also be a sense of community

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<v Speaker 1>for those of us who are way wide.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just trying to formalize what we're doing here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is what it is, isn't it. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks so we began this journey and

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<v Speaker 1>we decided who's going to be the leader of the cult.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex put her hand up.

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<v Speaker 3>M Producing Mickey, please jump on the mic and explain

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<v Speaker 3>what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>I gave you a test.

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<v Speaker 3>Fumi didn't do it, which meant.

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<v Speaker 5>That Flex became the leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Some would say, you of Fremy's leadership skills weaponized incompetence,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the true leader right there. Anyway, I came up

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<v Speaker 1>with a name. It was called the munch Kings, and

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<v Speaker 1>that refers to munchkins, which is a cute type of

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<v Speaker 1>person as well as kings, because we have some innate power.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the sub the.

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<v Speaker 3>Sublime queens never came up though, No, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Munchkins kings, and also we're taking some elements of the

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<v Speaker 1>patriarchy because it is ingrained.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it does work. I know you're gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>And also the subline is no munches, but we do munchies,

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<v Speaker 1>but not when high or drunk, you know, like sober munchies.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, said we'd workshop that we weren't ruling it

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<v Speaker 2>out completely, but we did feel that our devoted audience

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<v Speaker 2>would be able to come up with some better options

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<v Speaker 2>for us, and Micky did they.

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<v Speaker 5>There's definitely something I really like.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, please take the mic take us through Okay, okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>creator to ic, which is a role I always thought

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<v Speaker 4>would be good in retail to icee ye a.

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<v Speaker 3>Second, it is good.

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<v Speaker 5>Can confirm okay, some of our suggestions from the audience

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<v Speaker 5>we had the redacted.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, very good. I love that FREX What does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey? I listened to artists on Spotify called Frex.

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<v Speaker 1>F e X and all our meetings are on Rex airlines.

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<v Speaker 3>No flex are frooms?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Ossie?

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<v Speaker 3>Cult like the F e O localize?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like said that I.

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<v Speaker 5>S S S S the third space for we're not

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<v Speaker 5>cult members, prioritize getting near it and bonding with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>The third space. That's genius.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, we have cult.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's what we.

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<v Speaker 5>Call members, frexies, flex frooms plus sexies, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Fras, flex and frames.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. You didn't get that the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Rex Airlines, good Brandy.

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<v Speaker 5>A couple more redacted, and then we have a the

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<v Speaker 5>brand is quite clear. Then anything but munchkins.

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<v Speaker 3>Please.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing though, guys like, as a community, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to build each other up. And I put my back out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always the person in the class asking the dumb question.

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<v Speaker 3>I am too, Why do you think we're here?

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<v Speaker 1>So there was one that was redacted, then there was

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<v Speaker 1>one called They're getting near it type one.

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<v Speaker 3>What was that called third space? Is that what we like?

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<v Speaker 3>I like third.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon third space is the like the.

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<v Speaker 5>Byeline, which was something I was going to ask you

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<v Speaker 5>guys about. So the third space is the byeline, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's not the name of the cult.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called redacted with the two brackets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I just want to say, I don't think anyone

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<v Speaker 1>knew what redacted.

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<v Speaker 2>Men, which is I don't know, why would you think that?

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<v Speaker 2>Have we not watched this law and order the same

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<v Speaker 2>FBI case files X files at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Same point nine to five redacted wasn't part of that school.

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<v Speaker 5>I think. I think of like documentaries where the yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we are your out and they're like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, the CIA military, which is a very similar cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>If you will to sick Si C.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's shout out the people who have done us the

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<v Speaker 2>honor of naming our community.

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<v Speaker 5>KM mox yep five am, wake up, call you Aloha, mummy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for your service. This is what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 2>People doing the work with us, for.

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<v Speaker 1>Us, for the greater good. We see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, the work does not go unnoticed.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out real quickly. Yeah to Indy my favorite listener.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh, you've got a favorite listener.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah ATM So you can't imagine how parents have favorites,

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<v Speaker 2>but you've chosen a favorite flexen rooms listener. I came

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<v Speaker 2>across this TikTok from a creator called Katrina Sergu who

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<v Speaker 2>makes all these videos so you can test your morality.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought we'd listen to on and then talk

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<v Speaker 2>about what we do in the situation.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, let's test your morality. You are at home, laying

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<v Speaker 6>in bed one night while your five year old nieces

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<v Speaker 6>in the other room asleep. Your sibling asks you to

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<v Speaker 6>babysit her for the night while they go out of town.

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<v Speaker 6>As you're laying in bed, you hear loud banging from

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<v Speaker 6>your front door. You look at the time and it

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<v Speaker 6>is one am. You quietly rush to the door, peeking out,

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<v Speaker 6>only to see a woman bloodied, bruised, and in distress.

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<v Speaker 6>You talk through the door and ask if she's okay.

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<v Speaker 6>She tells you that someone broke into her home and

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<v Speaker 6>is trying to end her life. She is begging you

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<v Speaker 6>to open the door because the intruder knows that she

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<v Speaker 6>ran out of the house and is looking for her.

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<v Speaker 6>As you are contemplating on opening the door, you look

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<v Speaker 6>up and see a large, six foot man in all

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<v Speaker 6>black and a ski mask running towards the woman with

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<v Speaker 6>a knife. The woman looks back at you and is

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<v Speaker 6>screaming and begging for you to open the door before

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<v Speaker 6>the man gets to her. You have seconds to make

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<v Speaker 6>your decision. Do you open the door and bring the

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<v Speaker 6>woman inside, putting you and your niece's life in danger

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<v Speaker 6>of the man breaking down your door and attacking you

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<v Speaker 6>as well, or do you leave the woman outside, calling

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<v Speaker 6>the cuffs and protecting you and your niece, but knowing

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<v Speaker 6>that the man will catch up to the woman, possibly

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<v Speaker 6>ending her life in front of you.

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<v Speaker 2>All I have to say is sorry to that woman,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not going to be me. It really isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like life is fragile. On the best

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<v Speaker 2>of days, it is fragile. We take risks, constantly crossing

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<v Speaker 2>the road, going to work, eating out. In that situation,

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<v Speaker 2>what one might view as the victim. Now you're putting

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<v Speaker 2>me in danger. Do all three of us have to die?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got five year old niece and he even

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest, they really try to get you with

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<v Speaker 2>the five year old niece.

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<v Speaker 3>Remove the niece.

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<v Speaker 2>Just put me in my own home receiving a knock

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<v Speaker 2>on the door from a bloodied and battered person at

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<v Speaker 2>one am.

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<v Speaker 3>Life is not the movies.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I could live myself, would live with

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<v Speaker 1>myself if I didn't open the door, Yeah I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would open it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm with flex the Niee situation. I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to be responsible for exposing her to this. Like I

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<v Speaker 5>think if had the niece not been there, I think

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<v Speaker 5>I'd be a fumi. But because the niece was there,

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, she's sleeping, baby girls sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>I think of lesser circumstances where people would not do anything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's no danger to them. How many times you've

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<v Speaker 2>been a bystander when you see someone telling off someone,

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<v Speaker 2>someone getting kind of violent, You're like, ah, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what to do. That looks kind of dangerous, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna do it. You think, after I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>the result of the violence and the perpetrator coming to

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<v Speaker 2>finish off the job, that now I'm going to step in.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll call the police. Oh, triple zero, but I might

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<v Speaker 5>not let you inside.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll record for evidence. I'll pass that on.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, your record.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not gonna pretend I don't hear something or

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<v Speaker 2>no something, but I'm definitely not intervening. It is like

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<v Speaker 2>and rooms on Kita. Bear with me when I say

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<v Speaker 2>this next phrase. You you and you lived in your

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<v Speaker 2>grandmother at one point to morequeen, Well, it all has

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<v Speaker 2>to do with this TikTok video I saw from a

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<v Speaker 2>verified source a doctor. So they say, doctor Kanna.

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<v Speaker 7>Fun fact, A part of you started life inside your grandmother.

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<v Speaker 7>When a woman is pregnant with a female fetus. That

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<v Speaker 7>fetus will develop all the eggs it will ever have.

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<v Speaker 7>One of those eggs ultimately contributed to developing you. So

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<v Speaker 7>every woman pregnant with a girl is potentially carrying part

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<v Speaker 7>of their grandchildren to a biological Russian doll.

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<v Speaker 6>What's this?

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<v Speaker 7>Womb seption is fascinating. This next bit is trippy. This

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<v Speaker 7>also means the prenated exposure, So the environment a pregnant

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<v Speaker 7>woman is exposed to has the potential to directly impact

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<v Speaker 7>three generation that includes the mother fetus, and if the

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<v Speaker 7>fetus is a girl, all her immature excels.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, do you hear what he's saying that the lifestyle

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<v Speaker 2>your grandma lived has the ability to impact your current

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle due to epigenetics.

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<v Speaker 3>What does that mean? You ask?

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<v Speaker 1>What does it mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Love?

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<v Speaker 1>Please doctor flex mummy.

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<v Speaker 2>Epigenetics is the study of how your behaviors and environment

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<v Speaker 2>can cause changes that affect the way your genes work,

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<v Speaker 2>and so different lifestyle behaviors can affect or modify your

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<v Speaker 2>epigenetic patterns.

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<v Speaker 1>We should say this is a very new area of research.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's new and controversial in the sense that can

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<v Speaker 2>it be conjecture is a correlation versus causation. Not quite sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's all just information. Do with it what you will,

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<v Speaker 2>like you already do with information what you will. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you this was peer reviewed, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>like lies anyway. The fact is such as diet, obesity,

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<v Speaker 2>physical activity, tobacco, smoking, alcohol consumption, environmental pollutants, psychological stress,

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<v Speaker 2>and working night shifts. Damn, my mama was working nice?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you hear they say people who work shift? People

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<v Speaker 2>who do shift work are more likely to I think

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<v Speaker 2>it reduces like at least a couple of years of

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<v Speaker 2>your life. So what does it mean for me that

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<v Speaker 2>mum work shifts? What if I'm working night she's on

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<v Speaker 2>the Nintendo switch?

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<v Speaker 1>Riddle me that, you know what? I will say. I

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<v Speaker 1>have been researching this personally for my book.

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<v Speaker 3>I just was processing you for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>There, no, because it turns out. So let's say you're

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<v Speaker 1>tall a long time researching for what my book turns out. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say your grandma grew up in a famine.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't call her I her name like that, do your grandma?

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<v Speaker 2>Because why is my grandma growing up in a famine?

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<v Speaker 2>Do your grandma? Let's say frooms's grandma lived in a famine.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's say my grandma famine. Stop it. What happens

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<v Speaker 1>is it often the child ends up having even if

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<v Speaker 1>they're in an abundant environment with food, they can then

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<v Speaker 1>experience obesity because of eating habits. Well no, no, no, even that,

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<v Speaker 1>but as an epigenic moment, because the parent had to

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<v Speaker 1>like reserve all the energy and then so when the

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<v Speaker 1>kid eats regularly, they're reserving all of the energy. Getting

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<v Speaker 1>that completely wrong. But with you from conclusive five minute

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<v Speaker 1>research thus far, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Will go back to say that epigenetics is controversial because

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<v Speaker 2>people claim it will cause everyone to be quite reductionists

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<v Speaker 2>in how they view their lifestyle currently and what impact

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<v Speaker 2>them today. So like to be a reductionist is to

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<v Speaker 2>take these really complex phenomenons and try and describe them

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<v Speaker 2>and really reduce simple terms which might have been what

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<v Speaker 2>you were doing just then potentially.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't mean research.

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<v Speaker 1>Research would example be okay, has this your grandparent had

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<v Speaker 1>an illness of whatever variety, and then you have the

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<v Speaker 1>same illness and you attribute it to them. However, you

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<v Speaker 1>only got fifty percent of their genes anyway, and as

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<v Speaker 1>we know with Jenes you only get you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily fifty percent your mum fifty percent of your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>You might get seventy percent mom fifty percent. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you ate that. That's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that people don't like about a reductionist approach

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<v Speaker 2>is that it causes stereotyping. So because certain demographics group

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<v Speaker 2>in this environment, they act this way, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>people want to get away from.

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<v Speaker 3>I hadn't even thought of it. It's true. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrap it up, Wrap it up. You have flexi frooms

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<v Speaker 2>on Catera. It is flex and frooms on CATA. We

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<v Speaker 2>are in a pandemic, an endemic on an epidemic. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not quite sure. Maybe it's just a phenomenon of people

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<v Speaker 2>confused about their dating circumstances. We might say it's a

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<v Speaker 2>tail as old as time. It's always been confusing, but

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<v Speaker 2>the rate of confusion is astronomical and it needs to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sick and tired, but also very enthused and entertained

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<v Speaker 2>by people's dating woes. You want to talk about your situationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Do they like me? Do they not like me? I

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<v Speaker 3>get it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're confused as to whether someone likes you or not,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to run your situation through this fail safe

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<v Speaker 2>fail safe trifector. Okay, are you ready when I tell

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<v Speaker 2>you this? You have to stay with this information and

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<v Speaker 2>do not falter. Don't convince yourself Otherwise. If you're confused

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<v Speaker 2>as to whether you like someone or if someone likes you,

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<v Speaker 2>ask yourself this question. Do they invest their time, money,

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<v Speaker 2>and effort slash enthusiasm slash energy on me? Do I

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<v Speaker 2>invest my time, money, energy, slash effort slash enthusiasm on them?

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<v Speaker 2>I promise you if you come up with a no

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<v Speaker 2>for one of those, it's dead.

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<v Speaker 3>Even when it's.

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<v Speaker 1>You you onto them, it's dead. Okay, I'm confused, you would.

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<v Speaker 3>Be and it shows.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've said here. If you're confused, start here and

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<v Speaker 2>stay here. Don't try and think yourself out of what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. Time, money, effort, energy, enthusiasm.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the people play hard to get?

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<v Speaker 3>How have we gotten here?

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<v Speaker 1>Because this is what I'm saying, Like maybe wants to

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<v Speaker 1>spend more time and energy and money, but they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to come on too strong.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, people play hard to get?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you think we should abolish that.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably, I must admit I'm sometimes playing a game War two.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a joker, boys, she's a joker.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I always they have fun with it. But a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people are having fun, and it's clear. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I would say, you're in distress.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in distress and uress and the starting to

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<v Speaker 1>yip you up to your friends is becoming on fun

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<v Speaker 1>and they're saying, are you gonna get it now? A're

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna doat it now? It's time to walk away.

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<v Speaker 2>These, I would say. The reason why I like these

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<v Speaker 2>metrics because they're quantifiable. Yeah, you know, you can say

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<v Speaker 2>like time, like are you talking frequently on the calls

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<v Speaker 2>on the face times? Are the dates pumping money? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you investing in the experiences in yourself? But the effort,

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<v Speaker 2>energy and enthusiasm, you can quantify it if you want to,

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<v Speaker 2>But you can also sell yourself a lie. In the effort, energy, enthusiasm.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what it is when you see it, Stop

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<v Speaker 2>lying to yourself.

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