1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf. Everyone is listening to Mixed 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 1: one or four point nine one. 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: Now, as we understand, there was an incident a little 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: bit earlier this week at at a pub in the 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: Northern Suburbs. Now joining me on the line to tell 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: us a little bit more is Sylvia. Good morning, Sylvia, 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: good morning. What happened on Monday night? 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: So a group of friends and I decided that we 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: were going to go into Dolly's and Nanna to have 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: a few drinks. It was a public holiday, and about 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: nine o'clock to nine point thirty, I think it was 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: three men who were intoxicated actually broke through the doors, 13 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: made a huge mess and kerfuffle, and they grabbed a 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: few bottles of rum. The young girl that was at 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: the bar was slightly surrounded. She was in a little 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: bit of shop when it happened. So quickly they ran outside, 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: took the alcohol, ran outside, and you know, we went 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: over to see what was going on and to help 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: her out and see what we could do for her. 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: But it didn't sort of there. They actually closed the 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: bar a little bit early, which is understandable because she 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 3: was shaken, yep, and she was a little bit upset, 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: and so we thought, okay, we'll walk outside and just 24 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 3: get to the cars and just leave. And as we 25 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 3: were walking through the car park, one man ran across 26 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: the car park with a few bottles of alcohol in 27 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: his hand, and then several others started to chase him. 28 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: And what was happening was that they were throwing what 29 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: looked like glass bottles of beer at him. So we 30 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: were dodging these bottles of of you know, these glass 31 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: bottles as we were trying to get to our cars 32 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: with people running through us and there was glass shattering everywhere, 33 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: just to get to the car safely enough so that 34 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: we could get out of the car park at High 35 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: Biscus Shopping Center. 36 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Sylvia, that sounds bloody frightening. 37 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: It was, honestly night. Yeah. 38 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: Firstly, was the young lady behind the bar Okay. 39 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was, but I could tell that she was 40 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: visibly like she was shaken, because what she did was 41 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: she came up to the table after everything was over, 42 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: and she started clearing the table when the table didn't 43 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: need clearing. People were still drinking and eating, and she's 44 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: sort of stopped and said, look, I just don't know 45 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: what I'm doing okay, you need to sit down and 46 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: just breathe for a couple of seconds. You know, people 47 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: went across to help her and so forth that she 48 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: was shaken. 49 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: Oh for yeah, I bet you did. Goodness may Sylvia. 50 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: Did the police get called or what sort of happened 51 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: after that point? 52 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: So we got in the cars and left. But I 53 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: believe somebody else Wort mentioned that how the police were 54 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: called and there were there were some investigations happening about 55 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: what occurred that night. 56 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 57 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: Oh do you feel for you know, the owners of 58 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: the pub, you feel for the people working there and 59 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: of course everybody who was there. 60 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, it was quiet because you know it was 61 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: around that period of time and it was a public holiday. 62 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, you know, Leanya 63 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: is normally well. It used to be a fantastic suburb. 64 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: Oh g that's a difficult situation and bloody scary for 65 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: all of you. Was anybody injured. 66 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: No, No one was injured. But we were quite lucky 67 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: that we had a few male friends that joined us, 68 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: and they actually walked to the girls to the car 69 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 3: because it was they were running between us, pushing us 70 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: so or throwing the glass bottles. We didn't know if 71 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: we were going to get hit by one of these 72 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: bottles or anything like that. We just tried to get 73 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: out of the way as fast as we could and 74 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: into the cars and go. Yeah. 75 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: And Sylvia, I know, look, I know there's lots of 76 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: people in the community at the moment sort of saying, 77 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: you know, do we need more regular patrols around some 78 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: of these areas. 79 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have thought. I would have thought there 80 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: was some security guards or something. Normally I see security 81 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: guards around those areas, but there was nothing on this 82 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: particular evening. But it's not anything that's sort of new. 83 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: It seems to be happening a lot more often than 84 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: Leanna when I go there, you know, in the evenings, 85 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: to go to walls and stuff like that. So I 86 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: think there does need to be something, But again, it's 87 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: a balancing act. 88 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: Oh, Sylvia. I really appreciate you having a chat with 89 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: us this morning and letting us know what's going on. 90 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: I always think it's important for people to know and 91 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: to bring it to the light so that you know 92 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: that we can try and make some changes. No anytime, 93 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, Sylvia, I appreciate your time. You are listening 94 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: to mix. One oh four point nine is three sixty 95 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: now if you do want to call through this morning, 96 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: eight nine four one one O four nine is the number. 97 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: And well, joining me on the line right now is 98 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: the owner of Dolly's, Paul Palmer. Good morning to. 99 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: You, Paul, okatie. 100 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: How are you not too bad? 101 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: Mate? How are you guys? And how's how's that young employee? 102 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: Following on from the incident that occurred. 103 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: Look, you know, obviously Captain Soon is always for the 104 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: stuff she's look she's doing okay, you know it. It 105 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: was a pretty ordinary incident. You know, we've got the 106 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: manager out of the bottle shop dealing with them, you know, 107 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: kicking them out of there because they're threatened to do 108 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: a smash and grab in there, and so that's that 109 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: has insuited them kicked out of there. So they've come 110 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: into the pub and you know he's had to he 111 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: had to run in there afterwards and deal with it 112 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: in there. I mean, it's just getting out of hand. 113 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: It's just crazy, goodness. 114 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: Me, Paul. 115 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: So they tried to they tried to get into the 116 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: bottle shop first, correct. 117 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: So the manager and the bottle shop attendant got rid 118 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: of them. Out of the bottle shop and the manager 119 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: was in there waiting, you know, securing the bottle shop 120 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: so they wouldn't come back. And then they've just gone 121 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: around and walked straight into the bar and thought, well, 122 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 4: you know, we don't you know, we know he's in 123 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 4: there now, so we'll go in there and harass the 124 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: staff in there, which is you know, it's just it's 125 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 4: just ridiculous. I mean, the footage makes for compelling viewing, 126 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 4: I can tell you. 127 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: I bet it does. Paul, are you finding i mean 128 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: was the sitution like was it just a one off 129 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: over the Easter weekend or are you finding that this 130 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 2: is getting increasingly difficult to deal with? 131 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: Well, Katie, we've had numerous problems over the years, I mean, 132 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: thanks to the you know, the government's programs that is secure, 133 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: We've we've turned our place into into Fort Knox. However, 134 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: now they don't seem to really care, and they're coming 135 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: basically coming in from are open and harassing the staff 136 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: and just reaching over the bar and grabbing alcohol. I 137 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: mean it's it's you know, at what point, at what 138 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: point do we do we just say enough enough? I mean, 139 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, we've got to fix the root cause of this, absolutely, 140 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: but we need some action immediately. 141 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: What do you reckon can change immediately? 142 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: Paul? 143 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: That would you know, that would would help our business owners, 144 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: because let's be frank, it's not just you that we've 145 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: spoken to this morning. We've obviously heard from Sylvia who 146 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: witnessed the incident. We've also spoken to a business in Karama, 147 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: and we've spoken yesterday to Manual that at the IgA 148 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: and Fanny Bay. I mean, really, what can we change here? 149 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: Oh? Look, you know those of the smart those answers 150 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: from smarter people than me, caddie. But you know, I mean, 151 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: whether you know you're talking about the long term change 152 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: here is probably generational, I don't know. But you know, 153 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if you know, if 154 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: it needs that, it comes to the point where places 155 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: like ourselves and Manual at Fanny Bay and the lady 156 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: at Karama. I mean, if we need to have security 157 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: on twenty four to seven, well someone can have to 158 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: pay for it. I mean, at the end of the day, 159 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: businesses can't afford to have those those sort of security arrangements, 160 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: you know all the time. If it's getting to the 161 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: point now where where these offenders are simply just not 162 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: caring about whether people are on the premises or not, 163 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: and a threatening staff and in front of customers, then 164 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, maybe we need to look at a situation 165 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: where there's security, some sort of funding for security until this, 166 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: until this situation is fixed. I mean, you know, we're hearing, 167 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: we're hearing things from the from both sides of government, 168 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: and we're hoping that something happens fairly soon. And you know, 169 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: the government is talking about passing some legislation in May 170 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: on urgency. I hope, I hope that happens. I'm not 171 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: exactly sure what it's going to be, but you know, 172 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: we can't go on like this. It's going to get 173 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: to the point where you know, people are going to 174 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: start taking manage of their own hands. 175 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: Well, and I guess you know, like at the end 176 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: of the day, we also like we all understand you 177 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: know that when they're when when you own business that's 178 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: got alcohol or when you're serving alcohol, there's always risks 179 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: involved and you're used to those risks, you know, if 180 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: you've been running a pub for many years as you have, 181 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: or any public and around the territory. But the you know, 182 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: the added concerns that we've got at the moment, like 183 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 2: you said, is that you know, we've now reached a point, 184 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: by the sounds of it, where people actually don't care 185 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: whether there are you know, staff on premise. You know, 186 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: they don't care whether the venue is opened or whether 187 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 2: it's closed, and they're not particularly worried about how much 188 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: damage they cause or whether they're endangering other people. They 189 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: just you know, they're just getting in there and getting 190 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: what they can get their hands on. 191 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, you know, it is terrible for our industry. 192 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we're already struggling to keep in find stuff, 193 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, with international borders being closed, and now we 194 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: have these sorts of incidents putting down in the staff's 195 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: minds about their employment choices. 196 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: You know. 197 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: It really it's really just going to be a bit 198 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: of a nail in the coffin if it keeps happening. 199 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: Over this drives. 200 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: Well, I know there'll be some people listening right now 201 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: who are thinking, well, you know, suld you actually employ 202 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 2: security yourself twenty four to seven. 203 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: Well, you know, is is that really what needs to 204 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: happen that? I mean, you know, we as citizens, you know, 205 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: we rely on governments to keep us safe, and you know, 206 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: these sort of things need to be addressed by private government, 207 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, if we have to. If we have to, 208 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I will do anything to keep my staff safe. Yeah, 209 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: and if I have to put on security and pay 210 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: for it, well I absolutely will. But you know, you 211 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: sort of look at the situation and you say, well, well, 212 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: how much more do we have to do before before 213 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: people just start to say, well, we're enough to know. 214 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the worry. And look, I've just received 215 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: a message from one of our listeners. It says unfortunately 216 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: security are very limited in what they can do, and 217 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: people know it. 218 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean they don't they don't have the police 219 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: powers and all sorts of things, but you know, it 220 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: really is. But you know, it's better than nothing. Yeah, 221 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: but you know that the expense of security prayer hour 222 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: is fairly huge and you can imagine that price will 223 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: only go up if everyone had to use it. 224 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, to find them. 225 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: Trying to find them is the next problem. So but 226 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I believe a lot of the 227 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: time these kids are are not sealing the outcohol for 228 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: their own use, but using it as a commodity as well, 229 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, and selling it to others. To use the 230 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: proceeds to buy more dangerous substances, you know. And I 231 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: just think that there's that side of outside of it 232 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: to think about too. 233 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Paul Palmer, owner of Dollies, we really appreciate 234 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: your time this morning. Thank you very much for having 235 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: a chat with us only. 236 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: Thanks Katie, thank you.