1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Ronnie Kahan does not like to hear about people throwing 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: away their lettuce. If you compost lettters, it takes about 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: two weeks to decompose. If you throw it in the bin, 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: you can bump that number up to twenty five I 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: mean sorry, twenty five years. That is as the founder 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: of food rescue charity OZ Harvest, Runnie is an expert 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: on preventing food waste on a massive scale. But what 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: about on the small scale? Yep, she can help with 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: that too. So what should you do with that soggy 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: letters and wrinkley tomato that's sitting in your fridge right now? 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: My name is doctor Amatha Imber. I'm an organizational psychologist 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: and the founder of behavioral science consultancy in Ventium. And 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: this is how I work a show about how to 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: help you do your best work. On today is my 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Favorite Tip episode, we go back to an interview from 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: the past and I pick out my favorite tip from 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: the interview. In today's show, I speak with Ronnie Kahan. 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: And before I logged on for my interview with Ronnie, 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: I was looking at my fridge and saw that I 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: had some very ordinary looking lettuce and some cherry tomatoes. 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: That have seen better days. So I wanted to know 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: what I should be doing with the contents of my 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: fridge to help prevent waste. 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: So with your lettuce, do you have an onion? By 25 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: any chance? 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: I can't eat onion. It doesn't agree with me. 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: Not a problem. Take your lettuce, were in a pot 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: with some stock, aha and hudsh it up? If you 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: had a potato, if you had any other veggies other 30 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: than the cucumber, we won't put the cucumber in there. 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: I've got some carrots, carrots beautiful, Throw them in there 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: because you will have beautiful soup. Beautiful. 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: Oh give me some other tips that okay, common things 34 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: that people would normally throw out, But what can we 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: do to rescue them? 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: Well, lettuce is the first thing that everybody throws out, 37 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: because it sits in the bottom of the fridge till 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: it goes sludgie, and then we forget about it, and 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: then it's too late to do anything, and then we 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: kind of throw it in the bin, and we don't 41 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: even put it into compost. Do you know that if 42 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: you throw a lettuce in the bin, it will take 43 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: twenty five years to decompose. Why put it in compost. 44 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: It'll take two weeks. 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: Wow, you tell me if you're ever going to throw 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: a lettuce away again into the bin. 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm never going to do that, Ronnie, never ever. 49 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: Good. So don't end buy the two for one specials 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: if you think you might not use you both your 51 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: lettuces unless you're going to make lettuce soup. 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: Wow? What else? What else can I be doing? So? 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: Tomatoes when they go a little funny, are divine grilled. 54 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 2: You can add them to free tata with your cucum. 55 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: If you think they're a little soft, all you have 56 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: to do is you can cut them into rounds, or 57 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: you can slice them and put them into a little 58 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: bit of vinegar, water, pickles, pickling peppers, bay leaves and 59 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: pickle them. 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: These things are not hard to do. I'm sitting with 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: a couple of apples that look a little soft. As 62 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: soon as I get off this call, I'm just going 63 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: to chop them up, put them with some sultanas, cinnamon stick, 64 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: a little bit of water, cook them up, and I 65 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: have the most beautiful stewed apples. 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Wow. What are some other things that you find are 67 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: pretty common in households that get thrown out? When you 68 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: could be doing something pretty amazing with them. 69 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: Bread's another big one that we throw out. It's obvious 70 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: that you could make bread and butter pudding, but you 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: could use it for French toast. You can freeze bread beautiful. 72 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: So if you buy a loaf of bread and you 73 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: think you're not going to use it all, slice it. 74 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: Put half of that bread in the freezer, don't buy 75 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: the next two days later, use what's in your freezer. 76 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: You know, our freezer is like the pause button. We're 77 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: not using our freezers. Well enough. 78 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: I like that. How about shopping, Like, what should I 79 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: be thinking about when I'm at a supermarket or at 80 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: the paran markets where I do a lot of my 81 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: shopping and I'm buying produce. What needs to be going 82 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: on in my head? 83 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: The most important thing is nothing should be going on 84 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: in your head because you should have a list in 85 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: your hand, because before you go shopping, you want to 86 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: check your fridge, you want to check your pantry, and 87 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: you want to make a list. It's going to save 88 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: your money and you're only going to buy what you need, 89 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: which you can then use within the next few days. 90 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: So really, we've got this beautiful mantra, Look by cook store, 91 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: look what's in your fridge and pantry. Buy what you need, 92 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: store it properly. So for example, if you've bought too 93 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: many herbs, freeze, if you've bought too much, or you 94 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: think you're not going to use it, allocate and work 95 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: out how but store it and then cook it and 96 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: eat it and of course use the leftovers. 97 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: So simple like how many times a week would you 98 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: be doing food shopping? 99 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: So I don't do big shops. I do little shops. 100 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: I buy what I need. I'd rather go past the 101 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: organic shop or at my market. 102 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: I now do. 103 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: Were very fortunate in New South Wales because US Harvest 104 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: does a fruit and vege box, so I get my 105 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: fruit and vege once a week from ours Harvest, so 106 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 2: it's veggies with a cause, and I make that last 107 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: through the week. I try not to buy other things 108 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: through the week. My supermarket shopping. I buy very little 109 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: processed food. I mainly buy fresh, so I don't do 110 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: big supermarket shops. And I'd rather go and buy my 111 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: milk every few days if I'm I use almond milk 112 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: or you know, I buy my eggs fresh from the 113 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: market once a week, so I'm really try not to 114 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: do a lot of shopping. If I'm going to buy 115 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: a fish, I'll buy it on. 116 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: The day for the day I love that, so. 117 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: Fresh, local and as little as possible, and stretch it 118 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: as far as possible. 119 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: I hope for you are our feeling inspired to whip 120 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: up some delicious food with what's currently sitting in your fridge. 121 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: And if you're looking for more tips to improve the 122 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: way that you work, I write a short fortnightly newsletter 123 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: that contains three call things that I've discovered that help 124 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: me work better, which rained from interesting research findings to 125 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: gadgets and software that I'm loving. 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