1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day blames White Fox 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Boutique for the delay of her Christmas pajamas. Mia Plastic 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: throws shade at her former business partner Harry and Meghan's 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: Bombshell doco and Sophie Kesha's Fake Soft launch. Hello and 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest influenzer 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Kate Torbert 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: and I currently have a pepsi bottle in front of 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: me and some milk. Amy you need to explain what 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: is going on here? Well, I'm guessing you haven't seen 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan's pepsi commercial. Look, I've seen her Christmas movie, 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: which I have mixed opinions about, but I haven't seen 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: the pepsi ad. Well. In it, there's basically a glass 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: of milk for Santa that she's put out, and then 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: she gets a pepsi and she mixes it with the 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: milk and she calls it pilk. So a kid's meant 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: to be leaving pilk out for Santa, well basically, and 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: everyone's been testing it, so I want to test it 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: for our Instagram to see what it tastes like. Because 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: there's been mixed reviews, people have said, actually, this is 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: quite nice. Is it kind of like a spider because 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: a spiders where you have a song drink and then 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: you put a dollarp of ice cream in it. Yeah, well, 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure because you haven't tried it yet. But 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: I was telling Dale about it, and he said, when 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: he was growing up, he used to put red cordial 26 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: in with milk because it tasted like strawberry milk. Look, 27 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: this has given me a flashback to when I used 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: to drink a little bit more than I do now, 29 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: and I had a bottle of Bailey's and because my 30 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: ex partner used to love it and we didn't have 31 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: any milk, so I remember mixing it with pepsi and 32 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: it tasted disgusting. I buy the whole pepsi thing in Christmas. 33 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: Quite ironic because Coca Cola is actually the reason behind 34 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: Santa Claus. They are the ones that were the market 35 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: the marketing of Santa Claus. So it's interesting that Pepsi 36 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: are trying to take over the ritual of giving Santa 37 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: milk and cookie cokeb Santa. Pepsi have Lindsay Lohan I 38 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: feel I feel like there's been so much discussion of 39 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: pepsi lately. I think we did talk about it last week. 40 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: The new DOCCO that we've been watching, No, I think 41 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: we told you not to z oh Okay. I won't 42 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: go into it, but basically it's a documentary about pepsi 43 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: and how some kid took on pepsi to win a jet. Anyway, 44 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: it's a great documentary that's on Netflix, I believe, and 45 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: I feel like Pepsi's trying to get their name out 46 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: there again. They're trying to be popular and relevant. This 47 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: was another move. I saw a lot of people commenting 48 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 1: and they're like, stop trying to make pilk happen. Well, 49 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: it was funny because in this DOCCO, every time they 50 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: introduced a new character that they were interviewing, they got 51 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: the person to try either pepsi and coke and to 52 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: say which one they preferred. These were The glasses were 53 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: not labeled, so they didn't know which one it was. 54 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: I would say, well, it was a taste test, so 55 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: you had to say which glass time, but definitely taste 56 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: the difference between coc no sugar and pepsies. But what 57 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: was funny with this docco was in this taste test. 58 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: You could tell that they'd mix the drinks because everyone 59 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: who was so anti pepsi they drunk it and then 60 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: they were pulling out of pepsi and they're like, no, 61 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: it can't be really no, I definitely, I think we'll 62 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: have to do a taste test. This sect is not 63 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: sponsored Babe, pe Pepsi or Coke. So now that my 64 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: real is rated, gee, you can go and watch it. 65 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: It's my grid Holistic health. Princess Sarah's Day has been 66 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: slam for releasing her annual Christmas pajamas too late and 67 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: mid warnings from Australia Post about strict delivery cutoff dates. 68 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: Now so if there's fears that these pajamas won't even 69 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: arrive in time for Christmas, no, there will be a 70 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: lot of disappointed people. I do not think that these 71 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: pajamas are going to arrive on time. And it's quite 72 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: surprising because for the past four years Sarah has collaborated 73 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: with White Fox Boutique and every year she's launched a 74 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: set of Christmas pajamas. I always feel like they do 75 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: come out late, though, but maybe not this late, and 76 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: I usually feel like they're quite controversial because last year 77 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: I remember she was like, oh, by my Christmas pajamas 78 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: and they weren't even Christmas. So everybody slammed them last 79 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: year for bringing them out too late, and they've done 80 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: the exact They've brought them out. Even Marry Learn. You 81 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: want Christmas pajamas for the whole month of December, not 82 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: just for Christmas. You can't want them for November. To 83 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: get the value out of them exactly. And the thing 84 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: is that's weird about this year is that Sarah and 85 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: her husband Kurt, they're known for producing large scale campaigns 86 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: for White Fox boutique, whether it is for the pajamas 87 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: or for the active wear. Controversial campaigns. Yes, it's controversial, 88 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: and usually it's the behind the scenes vlog of the 89 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: campaign that's actually the real marketing tool there. It gets 90 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: people to actually buy the pajamas or active wear. However, 91 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: this year's campaign was very lackluster. Earlier in the day, 92 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: Sarah went and did a little car chat on her 93 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: Instagram and she explained that she was going away to 94 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: Buyron Bay for a wedding and they didn't have time 95 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: to get a Christmas tree, but they were shooting the 96 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: campaign and they needed something Christmas y, so she said 97 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: she didn't know what she was going to use to 98 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: make her house actually appear festive, And it seemed that 99 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: she found the solution later that day in the form 100 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: of a small DIY wool worst Gingerbread house. So this 101 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: is very ironic for someone who has their own cooking 102 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: app to get a DIY kit. I'm surprised it wasn't 103 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: healthy gingerbread. Well, it's obviously because you can't get healthy 104 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: gingerbread pre made in a pack. This was obviously a 105 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: last minute decision. Why didn't she just get the tree? 106 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: I saw her narrative. She's like, oh, we'll die by 107 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: the time we get it for Christmas. I got made 108 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: tree on the weekend. If you order it and you 109 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: don't leave a plastic bag like I've done in the past, 110 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: it'd be fine for Christmas Day. Well, yeah, I totally agree, Amy. 111 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: And it's even more confusing because they have recently moved 112 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: their marketing videography business, which is called House of Grom's, 113 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: into this huge studio that they're paying a lot of 114 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: money for, and they do a lot of photos and 115 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: videos and commercial stuff. Why couldn't have they just thought 116 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: ahead of time. Let's get a Christmas tree. Maybe the 117 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: aeroplanes have begun flying over again, it's too noisy. Well, 118 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: most brands are thinking about Christmas and preparing for Christmas 119 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: like a couple of months out at the very least. Yeah, well, 120 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: we've got to go into what this campaign actually was 121 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: because it consisted of a very short reel that had 122 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: a ton of mirror selfies with Sarah showing off the pajamas, 123 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: a close up of some fabric, and also a few 124 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: quick shots of her with a gingerbread house. So it 125 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: really wasn't anything to write home about. I saw the 126 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: behind the scenes photo of this campaign as well, and 127 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: it appeared that Malachai and Fox were meant to be 128 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: in it, but they've been cut out from the finished product. 129 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: Well that is because they aren't offering children's pajamas, but 130 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: they got the mate for them to wear. Yeah, that's 131 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: the stupidest thing about it. They've got Kurt in the pajamas, 132 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: they've got Malachai and Fox, yet they only make them 133 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: for women. Now, what was the kicker was that Sarah, 134 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: of course, revealed that the pajamas would not be launching 135 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: until the thirteenth of December, so she wrote SD Christmas 136 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: Pajamas twenty twenty two, launching December thirteenth, limited editions, So 137 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: you can only have one chance to get your hands 138 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: on these custom colorful Chrissy set I absolutely love how 139 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: these turned out and can't wait to see you wearing 140 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: them Christmas morning. Now, just to reiterate, the pajamas only 141 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: go on sale to the public seventeen days before Christmas. Now, 142 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: that is not taking into consideration delivery times two overseas. 143 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because a lot of people were saying they 144 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: were from America and they're saying, Hey, Sarah, will this 145 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: get here in time? I live in the US, And 146 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: she was like, oh, you've chatted to the girls at 147 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: White Fox and we'll get there. No, what won will not? Awkwardly, 148 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: White Fox Boutique has come under fire a lot this 149 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: year for their slow shipping, so on its shipping page 150 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: of its website, it says, babes, please allow two to 151 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: seven plus business days for your order to be dispatched. 152 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: We currently experience a backlog due to the overwhelming support 153 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: of our Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales. Our warehouse 154 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: team will be working as fast as possible to get 155 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: your orders to you. It then outlined that the standards 156 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: shipping time for orders outside of Australia are ten to 157 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: twenty business days and also what makes it worse is 158 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: in recent weeks Australia posts have been hitting the media. 159 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: They've been doing a lot of media around the fact 160 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: that the cutoff posting time for Christmas is the twelfth 161 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: of December. They so nationally, Yeah, nationally, So that is 162 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: a day before she launches. So basically this campaign is 163 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: for a twenty twenty three Christmas pajamas because that's Beinas 164 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: is going to be able to wear them until then. Well, 165 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: that's the thing. This did not go down well online. 166 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: A lot of Sarah's followers question the release date, so 167 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: one follower said thirteenth December, lucky to have it by 168 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 1: New Year's Another said, so cute your son Fox designed 169 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: the pajamas. You should also mark them as ex mess 170 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: pajamas twenty three as no one will get them in 171 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: time for twenty twenty two. Now. Sarah did respond to 172 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: some of these. Another follower wrote, going by all the 173 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: comments from people saying that it's highly unlikely they will 174 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: be receiving them by Christmas. You might want to get 175 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: a jump on the twenty twenty three design so you 176 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: can launch in October November instead now. She replied to 177 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: this comment, putting the blame on White Fox Boutique. She wrote, Unfortunately, 178 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 1: I don't get a say on when these launch around 179 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: this time of year. I just get to design and 180 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: shoot creative. Look, I think that's a bit of a 181 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: cop out, considering it seemed like a race to the 182 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: finish line to put together or rather, as you said, 183 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: lackluster campaign to promote the pajamas. Like, who knows if 184 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: she you know, if White Fox Boutique were waiting on 185 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: her to finish the promo because she has been very 186 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: behind on content, it doesn't seem I mean, she doesn't 187 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: have a fook book that was meant to come out 188 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: for Christmas, yeah, two years ago, And that's the thing. 189 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: She also blamed White Fox Boutique again in another comment. 190 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: She's like, I don't have control of when they're ready 191 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: or what date they are launching. So sorry, I'm asking 192 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: the girls at White Fox now what they think the 193 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: delivery times. She must be so pissed, but I feel 194 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: like saying you need to be nice too. They're one 195 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: of the only big brands that really have stuck with 196 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: hell tripeek I have as well. It's quite clear that 197 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: she doesn't know a lot of the details behind the launch, 198 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: because one of her followers asks what time the pajamas 199 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: are launching on the thirteenth, and she wrote, I'm guessing 200 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: ten am. That's how usual time, but I can confirm. 201 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: And I just find it weird because why don't you 202 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: confirm with the team first over the delivery dates and 203 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: also the timing before going out to the public and 204 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: relaying that mass. It was quite clear the whole campaign 205 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: was rushed. I find it hard to believe, though, that 206 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: Sarah didn't have a sit down meeting with the White 207 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: Fox Tea team. Surely they would have a meeting every 208 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: year and go, this is when we're releasing the active 209 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: this is what we've got planned for Christmas. She is 210 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: signed to some massive deal with them. They would have, 211 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: like most businesses, would be planning back in June and 212 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: July what they're doing for Christmas, not going, oh, let's 213 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: release it December thirteenth. I also think if you're willing 214 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: to put your name onto something, then you should be 215 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: more involved in the process in terms of is this 216 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: going to get to my fans, you know, in time 217 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: for Christmas. I think it's extremely important for a product 218 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: that's Christmas y. Yeah, and as you guys said, most 219 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: people want to wear their Christmas pajamas mid November when 220 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: they're setting up their tree or going on light drives 221 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. And I think even for 222 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: a Christmas present. And it is a campaign that most 223 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: people would have started in August and September. If you 224 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: look at Sophicacious Pajamas, they launched the campaign in November, 225 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: so obviously there was a lot of pre planning going on. 226 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: This just comes across as a pure money grab. It's 227 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: also it comes across as quie unprofessional. It's going to 228 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: backfire though, because how many people are gonna get pissed 229 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: off when they've spent all this money on these pajamas 230 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: and they don't arrive until after Christmas. And the thing 231 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: that makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable is how she keeps 232 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: throwing White Fox Boutique under the bus and acting like 233 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: she has no responsibility. It's like, you can't just throw 234 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: your name on a product and then fob off any 235 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: of the shipping issues. As oh, it's not your fault. 236 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: I think people would have preferred if she just took 237 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: responsibility for the mistake and said, I'm so sorry, guys, 238 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: ow bad. We're going to try and maybe offer you 239 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: free shipping, free express shipping. First, very important disclaimer, this 240 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: is my money. 241 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: I will spend it on what I want and I 242 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: will not be told by you that it is a materialistic, 243 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: stupid item and I should be wasting money on that. 244 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,359 Speaker 1: Christmas pajamas seem to be igniting all of the influencer 245 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: tea at the moment. Controversial Slickstick owner Mia Plasic has 246 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: thrown some serious shade at her ex business partner and 247 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: pajama entrepreneur Sophie Kasha. So what has gone down? Well, 248 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: Mia served up a not so subtle dig squarely directed 249 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: at her former friend Sophie Kasha. And for some background, 250 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: Mia and Sophie used to be business partners, so they 251 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: launched makeup brand Asuru together, which we have spoken about 252 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: quite a bit, and Miya was a silent business partner 253 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: with Sophie really fronting the show and a couple of 254 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: months ago Sophie announced it was now a solo project. 255 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: Mia hasn't spoken out about the fact that she no 256 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: longer works there. However, it's quite obvious now. Miya ignited 257 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: drama by sharing a photo of herself wearing pink Christmas 258 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: pajamas with a glass of wine in her hand, and 259 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: she wrote my pj's a from came up for those 260 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: asking Cama honestly makes the best pajamas. I bought Melanie James, 261 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: one of her friends, and I matching pajamas, but she 262 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: decided to jet off to La without me. Rude. I 263 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: actually really love these pajamas. They're sold out at KAMA. 264 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: I remember we spoke about them at probably in November 265 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: because I spotted Sophie Jane Miller, an influencer from I 266 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: think in Brisbane, wearing them and I'm like, they're super cute. 267 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: And then I started seeing a lot of influencers wearing 268 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: them so well, they sold out everywhere. They sold out online. 269 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can get them in store 270 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: or not. Probably. Do you know something else that's sold 271 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: out that I'm really annoyed about Christmas tree skirts, like 272 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: I want to woven Christmas tree skirt, and literally came out. 273 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: I sold out big w so they all sell out 274 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: now clearly this is all directed at Sophie Kesha because 275 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: she has her own pajama line, her Christmas pajamas. They're 276 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: very ugly. I don't at least they actually she released 277 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: them in November. No, yeah, good on her actually getting 278 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: them out on time. Theg this year. They are green, 279 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: red and white, and then they've got kangaroos and cholas. 280 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean they're not offensive. At least they're fast. I 281 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: haven't seen them. That sounds kind of cute. I suppose 282 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: you can either go that really cute see Christmas theme, 283 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: or you can go that kind of fancy? Is that 284 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: what they are? Like fans? They don't fancy. That's just 285 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: like Australia Australia attacking Australian Ana. So what do you 286 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: guys think about this post? I'm loving it. I'm living 287 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: for this drama between the two. I don't know whose 288 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: side I'm on though, Yeah, it's hard to pick a side. 289 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: I'd love to know what's actually gone down between the 290 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: pair for this type of content to be put out there. 291 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: I would say I'm on Sophie Keisha side. Actually really 292 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: because mea plasic, She's had a lot of unhappy business partners, 293 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: so you sort of think it's pretty common denominator. It's 294 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: a pretty immature post, but I do. It's petty as fuck, 295 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: isn't it. But that's why I like her. It's entertaining 296 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: over this festive period because quite often sometimes the influencer 297 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: celebrity drama drives up. So I'm glad that someone's trying 298 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: to drive it. Say, I actually think it increases because 299 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: people are in their holiday spirit and not really caring 300 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: what they're posting. Sloppy. Yeah, look, I'm just disappointed at 301 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: the news at these Kmart pajamas are sold out because 302 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: I was hoping that maybe all the Sais squad could 303 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: go and get the Kmart pj's instead of the white folks. 304 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: You want the Sabo skirt ones. I sent these to 305 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: you about four weeks ago, and you never responded, and 306 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: then you sent them to me if it was a 307 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: new news when the steaks were this high? Doesn't it 308 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: make more sense to hear our story from us? The 309 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: trailer for Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's much anticipated project 310 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: with Netflix has dropped. The Fly on the Wall docco 311 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: series is short to divide opinions with the Knives already 312 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: out amy. What do we know about the doco so far? Well, 313 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: the doco is simply called Harry and Meghan, which is 314 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: a little bit disappointing because really, well remember Harry's come 315 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: out with his book and it's called The Spare For 316 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: It was a really good title. But I think it's 317 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: kind of interesting because a lot of people are giving 318 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: Meghan flack for calling herself the dush and the Dutchess 319 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: all the time, and the the fact that she's like, no, 320 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: it's just Megan, that's true. So basically, this doco will 321 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: give the account of their royal life, so Netflix says, 322 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: the series explores the clandestine days of their early courtship 323 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: and the challenges that led them to feeling forced to 324 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: step back from their full time roles in the institution. 325 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: So while Netflix has officially stated that doco is coming soon, 326 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: it is being reported by multiple outlets that this will 327 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: be released on Thursday, the eighth of December. Oh, I'm 328 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: pumped for this. I feel like we need to have 329 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: a watch party altogether. Now. I do think we need 330 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: to unpack the trailer a little bit. It was under 331 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: a minute, but there's so much to talk about and 332 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting that Prince Harry was the 333 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: first person to speak, because I think it sets the tone. 334 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: Everyone seems to be out for Megan Markle at the moment, 335 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: and I think if she was the one to have 336 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: it from her opinion at the start, it would have 337 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: turned a lot of people off. Yeah, I totally agree, 338 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: and I am so confused why everyone is just going 339 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: for Megan in this situation, because Harry is one who 340 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: is seemingly turning on his family and not wanting anything 341 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: to do with it. I mean, we've discussed on the 342 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: podcast before, but it's this inherent misogyny. It's like this 343 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: woman's just come along and taking this guy from his 344 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: brain and think for himself. Look, I think we should 345 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: throw to a clip of the audio from the trailer, 346 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: just so for anyone who hasn't listened to it. Why 347 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: did you want to make this documentary? 348 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: No one sees what's happening behind the closed doors. I 349 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: had to do everything I could to protect my family. 350 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: When the steaks were this high. Doesn't it make more 351 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: sense to hear our story from us? I love the 352 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: upsots that these doco makers have chosen because I feel 353 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: like they're answering all of the naysayers laning dimming this, 354 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: and they've very cleverly chosen a lot of beautiful photos 355 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: of the couple initially looking very much in love and 356 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: young and free. There's photos of them dancing at their reception. 357 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: They were very candid. Photos they are and I mean 358 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: there's even photos appear to be from some of their 359 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: first dates when they were in Africa together. And then 360 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: suddenly in the trailer there's this shift and they show 361 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: this photo of the Royal family and Meghan and Harry 362 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: are sitting behind Kate and William, and Kate is giving 363 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: this really sour look to the camera and I think 364 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: it sets the tone almost that she is a part 365 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: of the trouble. There's also a change in the music, 366 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: so once Kate Middleton starts getting mentioned, there's like this 367 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: shattering of glass. I don't think people are going to 368 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: like that back in England. Yeah, well, I don't think 369 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: people in England will like it, but I think it 370 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: will get them a lot of fans in the US. 371 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting because everyone's storring shade at Meghan, 372 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, the Royal family 373 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: are known for highly managing their images, so why would 374 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: Harry and Meghan be any different in this docco But 375 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: also I actually think it's the dramas that make the 376 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: royal family actually interesting and make people want to stick 377 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: along for the ride. Yeah. I did also notice that 378 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: there are a lot of shots of like Paparatzian cameras 379 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: and media, so I feel like that's clearly going to 380 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: be a big part of it and a big part 381 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: of showing why they have made this decision. Okay, the 382 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: timing of this release is quite awkward. Well, well, it's 383 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: really come as a big surprise for a lot of 384 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: people because most assumed that the doco would be delayed 385 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: until next year following the death of the Queen, and 386 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: the release of the trailer has very awkwardly coincided with 387 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: Kate and William's three day trip to the US. And 388 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: this is a really important trip. They haven't been to 389 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: the US in eight years, and it's the first royal 390 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: tour that's been done overseas since the death of the Queen. 391 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: So we don't think that they're popping in to visit Harry, 392 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: no Meghan during that trip. I think any visits are 393 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: off the cards now. Additionally, the Royals are also dealing 394 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: with another racism accusation, So black British born charity boss 395 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: Nagouzi Falani says, while attending a Buckingham Palace reception, she 396 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: was questioned by a member of staff as to where 397 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: she was really from in quotation marks. Now, that member 398 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: of staff was Lady Susan Hussey, who has been a 399 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: part of the royal household since nineteen sixty, so that 400 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: was following the birth of Prince Andrew. Now she is 401 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: one of Camilla's Ladies of the household, and previously she 402 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: was a woman of the bedchamber to the Queen, whatever 403 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: that means. She was previously known as the lady in waiting, 404 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: and that's actually a really important role. So that person 405 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: goes with Camilla wherever she goes to public appearances, so 406 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: she's with someone she collects the flowers. She's basically her 407 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: little right hand woman. So she's has a close relationship 408 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: with Camilla. Well, she's so close to the royal family 409 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: that she's actually Prince William's godmother. And the role itself 410 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: is actually unpaid, but with it comes a lot of 411 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: status and social influence. So after these reports hit the media. 412 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: She has actually been stood down from the role. She's 413 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: eight three years old, so I mean she's gone into 414 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: retirement and the Palace and Prince William have condemned her actions. 415 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: It's clearly not a good look for the Royal family 416 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: because it's quite indicative of what must go on behind 417 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: closed doors. I mean, particularly off the back of Meghan 418 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: and Harry coming out on Oprah and saying that one 419 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: of the members of the Royal family was questioning what 420 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: Archie's skin color would be. A lot of people are 421 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: questioning the release time of this doc o. Okay, why 422 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: do you think they are releasing it now? The thing 423 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: is a lot of people looking at this very negatively, 424 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: but let's be logical. Netflix signed Harry and Meghan back 425 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty in September on a reported one hundred 426 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: million dollar deal. Now, this was back when the platform 427 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: was absolutely flourishing. You've got to think back to COVID 428 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: when everyone was at home watching TV. And currently the 429 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: Royals are such a hot topic. I mean, sadly, the 430 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: death of the Queen cast the Royal family back into 431 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: the spotlight and their Crown has been airing, so everyone 432 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: is discussing the Royals, and you've got to remember Netflix 433 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: would be putting the pressure on they don't I want 434 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: to release this next year. I think people are already 435 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: getting tired of the Sussexes. I mean, Harry is releasing 436 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: his book in the new year. I think it's clever 437 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: because we've got King Charles in I think people were 438 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: feeling a bit more friendly towards Charles after the death 439 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: of the Queen because they felt bad for him. His 440 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: mother has just died. There's been a few months now. 441 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: I think people are going to be questioning, well, why 442 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: have we got King Charles in charge? Maybe what Harry 443 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: and Meghan are saying is actually true about the Royal family, 444 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people loved the Queen. Yeah, 445 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: and with her not in the picture, well, that's the thing. 446 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: Charles's coronation is coming up in May. We've also seen 447 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: quite a favorable portrayal of him in The Crown. We've 448 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: had this hot guy playing him that Oh my gosh, 449 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: it is such bullshit. I've watched the last two episodes 450 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: of The Crown. You're not telling me that the Royal 451 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: family didn't have some kind of input the way that 452 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: the character the Charles's character not only in looks, but 453 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: there was this scene with he and Diana where they'd 454 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: broken up. I just was saying to Dale the whole time, 455 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: this is bullshit. This is so skew to his narrative exactly, 456 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think they're being strategic and 457 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: wanting to release this now. Public opinion of Prince Charles 458 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: or sorry, King Charles is quite high after the crown, 459 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: so I think that they want to jump in before 460 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: they have the pomp and ceremony of his coronation, which 461 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people get behind. And he's snubbed Archie. 462 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: It's on Archie's birthday. Yeah, everyone thinks that's a bit 463 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: of a fuck you, to know what Megan fond it is. 464 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: I'm actually so shocked at how harsh the UK media 465 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: are towards Meghan. I know that sounds silly. They've clearly 466 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: got a vendetta against her because Harry and Meghan have 467 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: sued the media. But I would have thought after everything 468 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: that's come out about the way she was treated, that 469 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: you know, it wouldn't be a popular opinion to go 470 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: after her, But it seems like so many people just 471 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: dislike her. Because people are pissed off that they're making 472 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: so much money from everything. So Meghan made thirty million 473 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: dollars off the Spotify deal, They're set to make one 474 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars off this Netflix deal, and Harry's book 475 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: has an advance of twenty million dollars. So that's a 476 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: lot of money out there, and critics are saying that 477 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: Howrry and Meghan would of course have sway with Netflix, 478 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: because if you think about it, Meghan was able to 479 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: push her podcast Archetypes back for several weeks out of 480 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: the respect for the Queen. She also pushed back a 481 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: really important interview with Variety. Well, when is the right 482 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: time to have this show out? Well, that's what I think. 483 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: I mean, it has been a couple of months, and 484 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: I think that the fact that the Crown has come out, 485 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: I think that's probably fair game to release their side story. Well, 486 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: some critics are labeling them as hypocrites because they're saying 487 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: that they want privacy, yet they're then having a documentary 488 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: out there about their side of things. I feel like 489 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: there's a big difference between your children's privacy and setting 490 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: the records straight. That's what Harry and Meghan are doing. 491 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: I think it's then there will be as I don't 492 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: agree with it, but then there will be amy increased 493 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: attention towards their kids and their family. But regardless of 494 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: what they do, there is always going to be interested 495 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: in them. Because of Prince Harry's title, there's always going 496 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: to be interested in those kids. Well, there's a lot 497 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: of speculation that their titles will be stripped after this 498 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: Doctor They probably will be, but the real is they 499 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: need to set this record straight for themselves. There's been 500 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: so much up said in the media about them, especially 501 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: vile things about Megan. Can you imagine just sitting there 502 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: and letting the media they look's advocate. They did have 503 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: the Oprah interview. I think a lot of people are 504 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: put off that they're making so much money from this doco. 505 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: But you've got to remember they have such a high 506 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: level of fame that they would need twenty four hour 507 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: security all the time. They need the money to be 508 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: able to protect themselves. I mean, I know that, you 509 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: know they did get some money from it, but everyone 510 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: to them when it was like the taxpayers were funding 511 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: their lifestyle in the UK, now it's like, oh, how 512 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: dare they do something and earn money. They're also giving 513 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: us the content that we want. I know, I'm desperate 514 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: to watch this. I can't wait. What I don't understand 515 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: is they talk about oh yeah, as you say, they're 516 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: getting paid one hundred million dollars. Do people realize how 517 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: much money the royal family have for not doing much? Yeah? Exactly. 518 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: These people are giving us gossip about what's going on. 519 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: They're giving us an insight look into it all. I 520 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: cannot wait. I really do hope it is true and 521 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: it's airing on Thursday. Nice and Soft me Baby. Fresh 522 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: off the back of a relationship breakdown with basketball at 523 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: Maddie Garrick, Sophie Kasha attempts to break the internet with 524 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: a fake soft launch Amy, can you tell us more? Yeah? 525 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: Well. 526 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: Sophie posted a series of photos on her Instagram on 527 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: Friday night alongside AFLW player Harriet Cordner. Now. The pair 528 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: were on the red carpet at the Richmond Football Club's 529 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: Best and Ferris and they looked really cozy. In one 530 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: of the photos, Sophie is resting her lips on Harriet's cheek. 531 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: It was rather odd because they were talking about, Oh 532 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: my god, I can't believe that people would say that 533 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: we're dating, and it's like, but that's what you're leading 534 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: people to believe, exactly. So Sophie and Harriet, they both 535 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: shared separate photos of the night. Sophie entitled hers the 536 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: Helen to my Sharon, you can be my fullback any day, baby. 537 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: Well. 538 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: Harriet captioned her post my ride or die now as 539 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: you said, Kate. The internet jumped to conclusions that the 540 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: pair must be dating, not only because they posted such 541 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: love dub photos, but because we know Sophie he loves 542 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: a sports plate of a Jersey chaser. There. What did 543 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: you guys think of the photos? I thought they were 544 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: very attention seeking and then I don't know if you 545 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: saw the stories also of Sophie kind of playing it 546 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: up and mocking what people are saying. It's like, but 547 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: you want people to believe that you want this to 548 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: get to me exactly now. Those stories you're referring to, 549 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: they continued throughout the night and they were super cringe 550 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: both on Sophie and Harriet's Instagram. So Harriet put up 551 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: a series of posts, one which included Sophie trying to frown, 552 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: but she was unable to do so because of her botox, 553 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: and Harriet wrote this bitch couldn't even frown at me 554 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: if she wanted to love you now. The kicker came 555 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: when Sophie shared this video to her Instagram story. Let's 556 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: throw to the audio on my lips like rot. I 557 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: love that. 558 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're. 559 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: Nice and soft for me, baby. So saucers say that Sophie, 560 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: Keisha and Harriet went to a footy dinner, so that 561 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: means we're doing must be dem God. I was cringing 562 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: so hard watching those who haven't seen it. They also 563 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: do sort of a scissoring gesture with their hands. I mean, oh, 564 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: how dare you all jump to this conclusion that we're 565 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: dating when we've literally posted photos of us basically kissing 566 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: each other on the red carpet. We are really out 567 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: there seeking attention. Then they get the attention to wind 568 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: about it. I don't like the fact that she's trying 569 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 1: to overshadow this awards night for the Richmond footy clubs. Oh, 570 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: you'd be so pissed off, wouldn't you if you were 571 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: the Richmond football All about her? Well, Sophie continued to 572 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: complain about people jumping to conclusions about their relationship, So 573 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: Harriett wrote under Sophie's post my girl with a love 574 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: heart eye emoji. Sophie responded saying, sources say we are dating, 575 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: so it must be true. Well. Another follower wrote next 576 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: minute Daily Mail headlines hot new couple, to which Sophie responded, 577 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: breaking news. She wishes this made daily Mail. Well, she 578 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: wanted it to make the Daily Mail. They wanted to 579 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: make Maddie jealous, is exact. That's their motive. Agree, It 580 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: seems like she is purposely trying to put out there 581 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: that she's connected with all these different women in an 582 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: attempt to get back at Maddie. Now, Amy, how did 583 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: the pair actually know each other? Well, there's reports online 584 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: that Sophie's ex, Jared, was a trainer with the Richmond 585 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: Football Club and that's how Sophie and Harriet became friends. 586 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: But what makes this story even more interesting is that 587 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: back in April twenty twenty one, Jared was photographed on 588 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: the red carpet with Harriet at the w Awards, so 589 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: it looked like they had gone as a couple. Now, 590 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: according to social media, Harriet has been friends, as I said, 591 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: with Sophie for the last few years, so a few 592 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: eyebrows were raised when Harriet was spotted alongside Jared. This 593 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: was mainly because Sophie had just publicized her new relationship 594 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: with Maddie, so people jump to the conclusion that perhaps 595 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: Jared was trying to make Sophie jealous. However, at the time, 596 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: Sophie re shared the photo of Jared and Harriet alongside 597 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: a love heart, so it's unclear what's going on. So 598 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: she just used for like when someone breaks up with 599 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: someone or someone gets a girlfriend, just like a jealousy. 600 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: Let's wheel her out to another red bit of But 601 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: Pete Davidson, he was pagged as a recovery boyfriend. Well, 602 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: I actually did some investigation and I looked into Sophie 603 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: and Harriet and they have a history of pretending that 604 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: they're in a relationship. So it's obviously this in joke 605 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: of theirs. Because on the eighth of April twenty twenty one, 606 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: Harriet posted a photo of Sophie cuddled up to her 607 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: and wrote You're the best fake girlfriend out there. Thanks 608 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: for always having my back. I kind of feel like 609 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: this is giving off vibes of how Sophie and Maddie 610 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: probably started their relationship because it always seemed like Maddie 611 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: was there when she needed her. Well, apparently Harriet's just 612 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: broken up with her partner. Oh, I do love the 613 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: way that Maddie reacted to this. So she simply liked 614 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: the post by Harriet, which is clearly a big fuck you. 615 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: It's saying I'm too good to even participate in this charange. 616 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: She would know what she's doing, But isn't she participating 617 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: by liking the photo? But it's clearly all for her, 618 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: So she's probably like, I don't care she'm like it 619 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: because I don't care she is participating. But it's a 620 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 1: clever move to be like, I don't even care, I'm 621 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: gonna like this. I suppose you're not really sure what 622 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: the like means if it's passive aggressive, if it's like, 623 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: oh cool, I don't care. See yeah, if you were 624 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: putting up a post to get at somebody and then 625 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: they liked it, you kind of be like, oh, okay, 626 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: check mate, Yeah, well done. Well I think that's all 627 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: we've got time for today. 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