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Speaker 1: Get a. I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,

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Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure

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Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,

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Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week I'll interview

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Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,

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Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 1: Rhydo Gangles. It is almost Crimbo time. Or let's be real,

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Speaker 1: it's middle of December. It is Crimbo time. That is

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Speaker 1: my word for Christmas. And what better way to get

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Speaker 1: into the Christmas spirit than bringing out an episode I

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Speaker 1: think was recorded a couple of years ago now, but

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Speaker 1: it is with the iconic Dennis Walter. He has the

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Speaker 1: most beautiful baritone voice. If you think Christmas carols in

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Speaker 1: Jely or Melves or three aw Dennis is that beautifully

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Speaker 1: dulcet tone voice that I know, you know and love.

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Speaker 1: And we recorded this episode Christmas when Bosco and I

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Speaker 1: were living in Talkie, so I reckon twenty twenty, so

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Speaker 1: that'd be jingy, that'd be three years ago now, so

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Speaker 1: we had to bring it back out. He's got such

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Speaker 1: a beautiful voice, he's so generous with his spirit as well.

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Speaker 1: It is Dennis Walter. I really hope this gets him

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Speaker 1: into the Christmas spirit. I know he also has a

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Speaker 1: Christmas album out as well. I listen to it on Spotify,

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Speaker 1: so you can find it wherever you listen to your

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Speaker 1: favorite music. Please support this wonderful man and enjoy the episode.

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Speaker 1: I have got to admit I'm a little nervous, don't

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Speaker 1: for the incredible Dennis Walter being on the podcast. You've

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Speaker 1: been on my dream list for so long? Your dream list, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my dream guest list.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So for people listening, you are an iconic voice

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Speaker 1: of Australia, I would say definitely. You're probably going to

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Speaker 1: say Melbourne and Victoria.

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Speaker 3: No, that's probably well. I spent so much in my

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Speaker 1: And early on too. I cannot wait to I'm going

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Speaker 1: to you'll learn this. I'm so excited to have you

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Speaker 1: on that I'm going to be jumping around right around.

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Speaker 2: As you wish.

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Speaker 1: So you're obviously synonymous with three W Afternoon since two

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Speaker 1: thousand and.

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Speaker 2: Eight, eleven years yep.

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Speaker 1: Now Nights Nights, which I listened to all last week

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Speaker 1: thank you. And before that Win News.

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Speaker 3: Win News, and I was doing seven days a week

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Speaker 3: for six months of the year because I was doing

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Speaker 3: the win News during the week, I was doing a

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Speaker 3: spot with Ernie on a Friday. Yes, when Ernie Sigley

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Speaker 1: That's where you and I met. Yes, I came on

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Speaker 1: a few times. We talked about health and wellness, Yes

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Speaker 1: we did. And this is why, this is the reason

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Speaker 1: why I really wanted you on the podcast, because every

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Speaker 1: time we had a segment together, I was blown away

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Speaker 1: by not just your professionalism, but you have and I

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Speaker 1: would like in Peter Hitchener to having this same quality

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Speaker 1: as well. It's like a respect for the industry. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that feels very rare.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, it probably is a bit rare.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so much of life and things within the media

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Speaker 3: are fleeting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's but there's.

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Speaker 3: Ask anyone who's been on one of these reality shows

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Speaker 1: Totally. But I think this is what I love about

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Speaker 1: everything that I've researched about you as you're in it

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Speaker 1: for the long haul. But you've done your work ethic

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Speaker 1: is clearly incredible. So I'm going to go back to

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Speaker 1: the start. You grew up locally to hear is that right?

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Speaker 1: We're recording in talkie right now.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I grew up about twenty five minutes from here

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Speaker 2: You get to a spot where it's very hilly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where you go up the Yeah, I know, what

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Speaker 3: About four minutes to the right of that you're absolutely

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Speaker 2: That's soill. I was ten or eleven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is in the sixties, right, So you

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Speaker 2: Now I'm certain.

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Speaker 1: But also you went to a local school and there

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Speaker 3: I think it was eighteen, it might have been less,

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Speaker 1: How cool. I like that.

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Speaker 1: And is it true that you had band practice? And

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Speaker 3: That was at Belmont High School, where I went to

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Speaker 3: high school. Yes, he he churned up on a Saturday morning,

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Speaker 3: nominating him for a Queen's Birthday honor because his dedication

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Speaker 3: He rocked that black every Saturday, and if you didn't

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Speaker 2: And really all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 3: And he used to clean his fingernails with the baton,

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Speaker 1: Really. Yes, okay, So when you were at so I

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Speaker 1: because I know you've been singing or you're in young

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Speaker 1: Talent time from about fifteen, but at that age when

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Speaker 3: and I ended up in the brass band being on euphonium,

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Speaker 1: Challenges amazing, okay. And then so how does young talent

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Speaker 3: both his parents died before he was eleven. Yes, I

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Speaker 3: so he did. He really wanted to have a singing career.

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Speaker 3: But I mean he had four four children and I

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Speaker 1: At all the miracle.

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Speaker 2: I like the way you can turn.

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Speaker 3: You should be in some form of pr There you are,

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Speaker 3: it's spin it round, Filola Berry.

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Speaker 1: So, and your mom was quite creative.

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Speaker 1: got the creative genes within you. How does Young Talent

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Speaker 2: Oh? Just through my drive?

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Speaker 3: Really, I just wanted to. My parents didn't push me.

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Speaker 3: left it to me. So it was my desire to

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Speaker 3: go on Young Talent Time, where I lost, and they

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Speaker 3: put me through on AGM the Honorable Mention and I

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Speaker 3: lost again, and about a year later the only other

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Speaker 3: option back then was New Faces.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, I remember I went on.

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Speaker 3: New Faces and won the heat and then won the final,

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Speaker 3: and then Young Talent Time said come back into requests.

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Speaker 1: Really, and so was Young Talent Time the launching pad

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Speaker 1: in many ways, Yes, because that's where LIBERACEI came along.

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Speaker 2: Is that where that I knew you had mentioned this.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen that movie, you know why, because I

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Speaker 3: was scared I was going to be in it. Liber Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I went out. Yes, when I started back on Young

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Speaker 3: Talent Time after the New Faces WI. Yes, Yes, that

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Speaker 3: meant I was recording. I was traveling with them, doing

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Speaker 1: Came home and so basically that meant did that mean

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Speaker 1: like a late night audition, Yes, after he'd performed or

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Speaker 2: Yes, at the Green Room Club on Queens Road, Okay.

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Speaker 3: And it was about midnight and I did three songs

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Speaker 3: for him with the Johnny Hawker Big Band. Wow, it

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Speaker 1: And then you find yourself in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: That was the concept. I got there and was told

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Speaker 3: within about four days. First of all, he was away

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Speaker 3: I went to her house and her and her boyfriend

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, and you're fifteen six.

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Speaker 3: I was probably about sixteen by this point. And their son,

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Speaker 3: I remember this clearly. He just sat and watched television

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Speaker 3: It's clear because I thought the the hell am I movie?

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Speaker 3: Then I got invited across to his manager's sons place, sorry,

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Speaker 1: That's where you had a mate kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: No, oh, nothing, nothing, And then I was told I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't get the green card or whatever it was called.

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Speaker 3: Then I think a screen card for six to nine months.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a nightmare.

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Speaker 2: So here I am.

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Speaker 3: I'm over there on other people's money, no prospect of working.

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Speaker 3: They're not there, they're actually away on tour. And it

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Speaker 3: wasn't really it wasn't their fault. I think from an

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Speaker 3: it should have been, got it because we surely would

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Speaker 3: have known that before I got on the plane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I came back within ten days.

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Speaker 1: Oh good on you.

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Speaker 2: Well there was nothing else to do.

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Speaker 1: You able to call it as well, and so.

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Speaker 2: I was desperately homesick.

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Speaker 1: It was Australia's pretty amazing. That's one thing I've learned

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Speaker 1: I guess you're always so welcoming, you always knew my name,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so one more question about news and then I'm

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Speaker 1: It's really nice. Like as I was researching you, I

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Speaker 3: In fact, when I was young, I was doing a

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

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Speaker 3: it's not done it I haven't. I wondered whether actually

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Speaker 2: I've worked that out now fifty years on.

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Speaker 1: But it's so, it's just so, it's so fascinating to

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Speaker 1: it's this. It reminds me of like a trusted voice

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Speaker 1: that kind of it's the intonation of trust and I

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. And Peach and I are very good friends.

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Speaker 1: as a consumer and listener, I feel that, and again

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Speaker 1: the respect for the industry, and I just I want that,

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Speaker 1: because you can't fault that. That's like honest truth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Pete and I, what you see is what

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Speaker 2: I mean, I love that.

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Speaker 1: double you have you've been I feel like you're part

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Speaker 3: Then I started doing Friday lunch with him, I threw

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Speaker 3: Well in Melbourne Today, which was their morning show I

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Speaker 3: there Channel nine each afternoon. Somehow it got out how

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Speaker 3: much I was getting paid to do this very short.

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Speaker 1: Segment in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And there was a cartoon in the Herald Sound

446
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Speaker 3: or the Herald which said it was my wife welcoming

447
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Speaker 3: me home saying did you have a hard minute at

448
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Speaker 3: the office today?

449
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Speaker 2: It was very clever.

450
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Speaker 1: It looked like so much fun though.

451
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Speaker 2: It was fun.

452
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I even saw you're a lot of fun

453
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Speaker 1: to research on YouTube because what was that comedy skit?

454
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Speaker 1: Show was at full front fast forward and they did

455
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Speaker 1: a satire review. Yes, doing Keino and singing a madge

456
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Speaker 1: I've written it down a song on Young Talent Time,

457
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Speaker 1: singing it whilst calling Keno the person that was imitating.

458
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Speaker 3: Here, someone brooks his name and he did a brilliant job.

459
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Speaker 3: And they did the Kenot drawer where I was just

460
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Speaker 3: pulling the balls out of the container the ones I wanted.

461
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Speaker 1: To pick out and singing impossible dream?

462
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Speaker 2: Is that right?

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah? So if you ever get bored one afternoon, just

464
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Speaker 1: a YouTube your said.

465
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Speaker 2: I didn't know anything about that till three weeks ago.

466
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Speaker 3: Someone rang in on the radio and said, have you

467
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Speaker 3: ever seen I said, no, I've seen it now.

468
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Speaker 1: So good okay, So radio, you've obviously, like I said,

469
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Speaker 1: had this wonderful career at three ot W you've been Yes,

470
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Speaker 1: it's talk back, but also like your audience was informed,

471
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Speaker 1: like you're on top of the news, breaking news. Has

472
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Speaker 1: there been any like I don't want to say, standout

473
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Speaker 1: moments of like a highlight, but maybe like a big

474
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Speaker 1: breaking news moment.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I was on air when we learned that Peter

476
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Speaker 3: Brock died. I was on air when we learned of

477
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Speaker 3: Steve Irwin.

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Speaker 1: I still remember that exact moment.

479
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Speaker 3: I was on air with the christ Church earthquakes. This

480
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Speaker 3: news was coming through and Kareninch was doing nutrition with me,

481
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Speaker 3: and she looked up at the monitor in the studio

482
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Speaker 3: and started to shake and almost burst into tears because

483
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Speaker 3: her daughter's best friend was seen running in.

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Speaker 2: Fear of the earthquake. So that was just bizarre.

485
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Speaker 3: I was also on air when Burke Street happened, and

486
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Speaker 3: Dennis Okaine was doing a presser with Robert Doyle because

487
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Speaker 3: he was then Lord Mayor, and his voice started changing

488
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Speaker 3: and I said, this was a quarter to one, and

489
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Speaker 3: I said, you're right, your it's something's going on here.

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Speaker 2: He said.

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Speaker 3: This helicopter's blow overhead, he said, and then the car

492
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Speaker 3: came up Swanston Street and it's that.

493
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Speaker 2: Then we just watched her. Sorry, you can watch.

494
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Speaker 3: We realized that something serious was happening, and then over

495
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Speaker 3: the next between ten to one and three o'clock, we

496
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Speaker 3: had all these people bringing in saying what they were

497
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Speaker 3: seeing and they were locked in their buildings. They're looking

498
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Speaker 3: down on what has happened. We spoke to one fellow

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Speaker 3: rang in. Some listeners got their kids who were in

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Speaker 3: lockdown to ring into the station keep us informed. And

501
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Speaker 3: one bloke rang and he said, he said, I'm looking

502
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Speaker 3: at the front of the commodore and there's a baby

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Speaker 3: stroller on it, and that was horrendous. And I remember

504
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Speaker 3: just before three we spoke to Christine Nixon. She was

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Speaker 3: then not police chief, but she'd been standing at the

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Speaker 3: corner of I think William Street at the lights and

507
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Speaker 3: the carrot comes behind her on the footpath.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I've got goosebumps, just as your retaelling there. How

509
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Speaker 1: do you hold yourself together?

510
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Speaker 2: I'm not good at that, I.

511
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Speaker 1: Think you are.

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Speaker 2: I was on there the night of the Eastern Freeway

513
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Speaker 2: thing as well as that.

514
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Speaker 1: That was what you're getting calls as.

515
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was I was really confronted by that. So

516
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Speaker 3: that really difficult.

517
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Speaker 1: And does something overcome you where You're like, this job

518
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Speaker 1: right now is bigger than me, and I'm here to

519
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Speaker 1: almost like hold the space and facilitate whatever in order

520
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Speaker 1: to keep the audience informed.

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Speaker 3: You just you've got to keep them in formed. But

522
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: I wear my heart on my sleeve, so I'm prone.

523
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Speaker 1: To I have seen this hook. I have seen her.

524
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Speaker 1: I don't think this is a bad thing. I've seen her.

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Speaker 1: I love Christmas, and so I've watched many videos of

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Speaker 1: you at the catt. It's actually you're part of my

527
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Speaker 1: talking absolutely and unashamedly might I say, but you're part

528
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Speaker 1: of my Christmas tradition at one thousand percent. In fact,

529
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Speaker 1: we're in my dad's holiday home recording this right now.

530
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Speaker 1: And he called me and he said, what dave you

531
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Speaker 1: got Dennis Water coming in? I said Monday, And he said,

532
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Speaker 1: please promise me you clean that house.

533
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: He said he everything's fine, Dad.

534
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: Yes, I actually said, I'm going to ask for a

535
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Speaker 1: shout out for Nol.

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00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: So hello, Nol.

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Speaker 1: He's going to love very Christmas, so.

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Speaker 2: Give me the keys to your holiday. Is nice.

539
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: So you've made you will have made his Christmas just

540
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Speaker 1: by saying that. But I was watching on YouTube. You

541
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Speaker 1: were it was actually I think last year's Carol's by Candlelight,

542
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: and you said, this is nearly my fiftieth and you

543
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: got choked up, and I got choked up. Yeah, watching it.

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Speaker 3: We can't actually work out how many it is because

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Speaker 3: I did them for Channel Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, oh yeah, when was Channel O, like.

547
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: When I started on Young Talents. Yeah, so we can't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many I've done for Channel Oh,

549
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 3: but I know that when Channel nine took it over,

550
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Speaker 3: I've done.

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Speaker 2: Every year bar one.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's probably it's not fifty. It's probably getting

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Speaker 3: closer to forty. Pretty impressive, but it's definitely about thirty five.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, but every time

555
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Speaker 1: that I'd come on and do a thing with you,

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Speaker 1: I was like, if you picked your song yet, that's right,

557
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Speaker 1: and you go, what give me your request?

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Speaker 3: Lol?

559
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Speaker 1: And I was like, first, Noel because my dad's name

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Speaker 1: is Noel spelt the same way, and so that's kind

561
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Speaker 1: of our Christmas tree every year is just Noel baubles

562
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Speaker 1: because it's like an ode to my dad and we

563
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Speaker 1: and you said, you know what you should do. You

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Speaker 1: should come to the dress rehearsal. Yes, because I was.

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Speaker 1: I always put Christmas on at my house so often

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve is spent prepping food with the Carrols on

567
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Speaker 1: in the background. And you said, come with the dress rehearsal.

568
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: It's like donation. It's the night is the twenty third.

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Speaker 1: So I rocked up to the dressers and my brother

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Speaker 1: and my dad. You jump on stage and you're like,

571
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: this one's for La La Berry. Do you I did?

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00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: Do that?

573
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: You did?

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00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: I did?

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Speaker 1: And I updated my Facebook status to year made. Denis

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00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: Welter just indicated this song. So you brought me so

577
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Speaker 1: much joy and I've never got to thank you for that.

578
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: So this is my moment say thank you so much pleasure.

579
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: And my dad was nudging me, going did you see that?

580
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: I said, yes, Dad, let's just soak it up. But

581
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: there's something really magical. On a more serious note about

582
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: the carols and you you bring so much heart, and

583
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Speaker 1: please keep doing them forever and ever and ever.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll be doing them as long as they as

585
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Speaker 2: long as the phone rings.

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Speaker 1: Has it rung for this year, hasn't it?

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00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: Yes?

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00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: Are you allowed to reveal what you're going to see?

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00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 3: Yes, I've got a new single out Christmas single which

590
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: came out out of nowhere, as did the recording deal

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00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: with Sony, which is just a story in itself. But

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Speaker 3: one of the execs rang me about seven weeks ago

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Speaker 3: and said, look, we need a little Christmas, and he said,

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Speaker 3: that's the song. He said, but we need to do it,

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Speaker 3: not I Papa like it was in Maime the musical.

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00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: We need to do a modern version of it.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful. I listened to it. Yeah, and the lovely

598
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: girl there, oh her voice.

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00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: And it's just gorgeous. Michael Christiana did the arrangement.

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Speaker 1: He's done a lot of the I also stalked him

601
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Speaker 1: on instag Yes, a.

602
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Speaker 2: Bit of SI.

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Speaker 3: He's done a lot of seekers work and he's brilliant

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Speaker 3: and it's come up a treat and it's just the

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Speaker 3: right message.

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Speaker 1: You've got some favorites of I've got some favorites that

607
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: you always do though, because of your so for people listening.

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Speaker 1: If you have been living under a rock and you

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Speaker 1: haven't heard Dennis Walter at Christmas, you see it's baritone,

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Speaker 1: right based baritone, super deep, beautiful, which was why you

611
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: were so did so well with young pound time. You're

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00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: this like skinny little fifteen year old with this really

613
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Speaker 1: boomer of a voice.

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00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: Right yeah, yeah, and horrendous.

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Speaker 1: And did I hear an interview that you weren't so

616
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: prone to dancing?

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I am the crappiest dancer. In the world

618
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Speaker 2: me too.

619
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Speaker 1: Don't worry.

620
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: No, I'm worse than you. I don't promise you.

621
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Speaker 1: I would think, though, because you're a singer, you'd understand

622
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: beat tune. You'd be way better than me.

623
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Speaker 2: Yep, I understand. It doesn't mean the body does if.

624
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: It makes you feel any better. I auditioned to go

625
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: to drama school and I didn't get a high enough

626
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: ter score ter score to get into the Monash Performing

627
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: Art score. So I was like, I'll just audition with

628
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: musical theater and get in that way. I sung, Oh Lord,

629
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Speaker 1: won't you buy me a Mercedes benz Akipella? And they

630
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: said stopped me halfway through and said, hmm, we think

631
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: you may have a pitching problem. Oh so if that

632
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: makes I can't sing or dance, but I did. I

633
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: still got into the course, thank goodness, but not the

634
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: musical theater, the acting one. Thank you lucky. That is

635
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: what I'm getting at because the other the bits, no good.

636
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: Well, it makes me feel better about myself.

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00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 1: Good good. Okay, So does that mean that the Carols

638
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: you're going to be singing your new song?

639
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: Yes, So we're trying to work out how because we

640
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: don't know if can journey to Melbourne because she's in Brisbane. Okay,

641
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: hopefully she can and but they've got other ways.

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00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: Great of course, because there will be no audience this year,

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00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: That's right.

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00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: That will be bizarre.

645
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: It will be, but how amazing because I think people

646
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: are going to need carols more than ever.

647
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: Of course, that's what I had to go ahead.

648
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and so many people. I don't know what the

649
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: viewership is, but so many people that will be part

650
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: of their Christmas. Like it's my Christmas Eve ritual.

651
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: It's not just Australia. It goes internationally as well.

652
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. So are you singing any other carols.

653
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: At this point?

654
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: I'm not sure they might need it, having to do

655
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 3: it all different usually do two songs.

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00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. I'm really looking forward to it.

657
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: I also love your rendition of Amazing Grace, which I

658
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: know is that Christmas It is kind of Christmasy, but

659
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: it's not really, is it.

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00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: No, it's just it's the right sort of message.

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00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, my father did that with me at carols.

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00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: I've seen a photo of it, is it stand? Yeah,

663
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Speaker 1: I've seen a photo of you.

664
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: He was almost eighty at that point, and Remy Martin

665
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: Brandy got him on stage because he was so nervous.

666
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: He'd never been in front of him.

667
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: It's a huge audience, orchestra.

668
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: And chorus, and this massive candles out front was a

669
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: big thing. Oh, he's great. And then we reprieved it

670
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: about six or seven years ago when my niece Julie

671
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: came on. We did amazing grace.

672
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: I love this. Okay, So I've got to ask this question.

673
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna laugh when I ask it.

674
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: You want to be on carols and do it?

675
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: Like I said, I have a pitching problem. I'm happy

676
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: to I'm happy to just be a humble consumer of

677
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: the carols everything. Do you get nervous? Is my question?

678
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: I get more excited. I just I love doing it.

679
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 3: And we're usually most of us are struggling to make

680
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: sure we've got the lyrics right.

681
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: Really, there's no autok there.

682
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: Is no no Oh. There is for the host, but

683
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: not for us.

684
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, So you've just got to wing it. Well,

685
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: you've got to know it. How much notice do you

686
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: get to learn the song? Oh?

687
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: Quite a few weeks usually.

688
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: So they will probably give you if you end up

689
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: doing a second song, you'll get that at least.

690
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: It'll be a Carol and I'll probably know it vaguely.

691
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: Great, and you do only do the I don't know

692
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: if I'm presuming the Geelong Carols won't. Will they still happen?

693
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: But you usually do.

694
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 3: I was going to try and do them virtually. Yeah,

695
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 3: But the more I thought about it, the more I thought,

696
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 3: hang on, do you really want to be sitting around

697
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: a laptop as a family. I'm just not sure that's

698
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: the I'm doing a couple of them in other areas,

699
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 3: but I just wasn't sure whether it was the whole

700
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: idea of Carols. My candlelight is that, yes, you watch

701
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: it as a television event when it's done to the

702
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: level on Channel nine. I don't know whether you want

703
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: to zoom it.

704
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

705
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: No, I understand that. I totally because it's about connection, right,

706
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: and the.

707
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: Connection is the family is gathering on the lawn in

708
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: front of you.

709
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: Totally. No, I totally hear that. I just guess I'm

710
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: looking for any excuse to soak up Carol's and Dennis.

711
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: It's the most beautiful setting I've got for Geelong Carrols.

712
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 3: Because we put the stage backing onto carry Obey and

713
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: the people sit up in the natural Amphitheater at Easton Beach.

714
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: It's gorgeous.

715
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been asked this a million times before.

716
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: What's your favorite Carol?

717
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 2: Not again? I know first, Noel, Oh no, I'm serious.

718
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: Really, Oh, Daddy is going to be wrapped.

719
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: I meant that now.

720
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: Okay, You've got an Order of Australia about five years ago.

721
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: How did that happen and how does it happen?

722
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: I got it for services across all media.

723
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: And performing arts.

724
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, performing arts, But you don't I if that was

725
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: what you. I mean.

726
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 3: It's great that I've been able to have some success

727
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 3: across different areas. But I really think that when people

728
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: nominate you, they have a really good look at you.

729
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: And I think it's a lot to do with how

730
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: much input you have into the community.

731
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: And you, my friend, have a lot almost I don't

732
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: know how you have the hours in the day that

733
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: to that level.

734
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: I possibly say yes to too many things.

735
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm probably lucky about that because you're doing this podcast.

736
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: The Yeah, I'm involved with quite a lot, and I

737
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: have seen you.

738
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: I do. I used to live in Sydney and so

739
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: every Christmas I do the Selbos. Either my mum or

740
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: Dad did fly up and we do the Salvos together

741
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: on Christmas Day. It's the best in environment.

742
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: Well, I'm hoping we're going to be able to do

743
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: my final show on aw this year from the citadel

744
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 3: up the top of Burk Street.

745
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: You've got to do it.

746
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 2: And we've done. We're not doing afternoons.

747
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 3: We've done it from there the last two or three years.

748
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: Oh perfect.

749
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 3: And you get all people in, some of them who

750
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: don't have connection with family. We give them Christmas Lunch.

751
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: It's beautiful.

752
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: And one thing I learned about getting involved with the

753
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: Salvos and working at the Christmas Day lunch is although

754
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: Christmas is such a wonderful time for family and connection,

755
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: it can also be confronting for a lot of people

756
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: as well. And so it's so important, makes the carols

757
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: so important, It makes all these things that we can

758
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: do for the community so important, don't.

759
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: You think because some of those some of the people

760
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 3: find Christmas extremely stressful because if you're in a situation

761
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: in life you actually don't have family or friends and

762
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: they for from the middle of November, keep hearing Christmas.

763
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: It's great, it's fantastic. Well now it's not not for some,

764
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: not for some.

765
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: And that's I reckon as well, because I'm thirty five

766
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: now and I probably had my first Selvo's Christmas volunteering

767
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: at Selo's Christmas when I was thirty, and I think

768
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: until you're thirty, you kind of think you're invincible and

769
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: you think you're a bit immortal and you're like everything's peaches.

770
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: And I remember that moment. I was like, oh, wow,

771
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: I've had a very blessed life, Like how lucky that

772
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: I've been able to enjoy all my Christmas is. And

773
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: that's why I think, Yeah, I don't know, we're very

774
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: very lucky. And in Australia we're very very very lucky.

775
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: Yes, right through this whole COVID thing.

776
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: When you look around the world, Oh yeah, it's to

777
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: be here and to be in the position we now

778
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 3: are in.

779
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: Good, big time, big time mega. We're very much the

780
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: lucky country right now. I have another radio question. I'm

781
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: just gonna, like I said oldest, I've made too done

782
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: too much research on you that I got so nervous

783
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: that I knew that I'd end up asking you questions

784
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: that don't aren't like chronological.

785
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: So that's fine. That suits me.

786
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: Good good. Well, it's actually it's really daunting interviewing you

787
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: because you're it's usually the foots on the other the

788
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: shoes on the other foot show are you? Oh good?

789
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: Good?

790
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: Okay, So you've interviewed so many amazing people, both I presume,

791
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: both on the news, but more more so with radio.

792
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: And I saw you do an interview with Beach Boys,

793
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: Joel Legerton, the ab Fab Girls when they bought their movie,

794
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: and has there been anyone You're like, Oh, they're a legend,

795
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: and they're a legend off the mic as well.

796
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: Yes.

797
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: Actually, when I think back, sometimes I go back through

798
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 3: photos that have been taken in the studio. Bloody hell,

799
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: there are so many people. Yeah, you've reminded me of

800
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,479
Speaker 3: a couple that I'd forgotten about.

801
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: Some of these are on YouTube, so they have been filmed.

802
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: Yes.

803
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: Cat Stevens, Oh my goodness. He came into the studio

804
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: because of his religion. He needed to have his wife

805
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: sitting near him or within.

806
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: Whatever.

807
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: She just sat there, which I usually can't stand someone

808
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: bring someone else into the studio who's not actually a

809
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: part of it.

810
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: He was just mesmerizing.

811
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean, also the voice let's voice.

812
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: Everything about him. And I know it's I know it's

813
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 3: there are parts of his life that have been where

814
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 3: people are annoyed at him. Excuse me, but he is

815
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: completely engaging.

816
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: My mum when she was she would have been. It

817
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: was while he was still Cat Stevens because his name,

818
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: hasn't he with his religion use of Islam? And so

819
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: my mum went to one of his concerts many many

820
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: years ago and she said, that's a concert that changed

821
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: my life. He's one of those people, isn't he.

822
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 3: Yes, he's peaceful. Yeah, there's something calming about him. But

823
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: mind you, I did feel also under their control in

824
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: one other interview with someone who's quite different to that,

825
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Edelson, really and I felt like I wasn't getting

826
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: the answers that I wanted. But he I can understand

827
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: why he's been so successful in business because he takes control.

828
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: Of the situation there.

829
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: So in that moment, did you just kind of.

830
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: Like bloody yellow suits he wore at the Melbourne Cap

831
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: Carnival feeding him?

832
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 2: What's that about?

833
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: I remember? I remember, But did you in that moment

834
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: when you were like, okay, I don't have the rains here?

835
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: Did you just kind of go, well, I'm just going

836
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: to have to go with it.

837
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 3: With Cat Stevens, it was just a pleasure he was giving,

838
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: he was calming, he was whatever, amazing. As against Killian Murphy.

839
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: Really sorry.

840
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: With Jeffrey Edison, he just wasn't going to answer any

841
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: question straight. And can I get sued for this?

842
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: No?

843
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: He just he controlled the situation and I didn't have

844
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 3: time where it was short on time. I didn't have

845
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 3: time to try and go deeper.

846
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: You just mentioned Killian Murphy and I just got very excited.

847
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: Yes, many do.

848
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: What talent came into three I w when we're in

849
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: South Melbourne, which you remember, Yes, and he obviously was

850
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: sick of doing the pr because these people you don't

851
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: realize it which you spot them on you see them

852
00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: on a Today Show or a Sunrise and they're doing hundreds.

853
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 3: Rod Stewart I spoke to. I was the last interview

854
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 3: with Rod Stewart. He had been sitting in his home

855
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: studio for about eleven hours.

856
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: Do you remember the Heath Ledger Koshi debacle where he's

857
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: Ledger appealed to Mandarin in the middle of the interview

858
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: and Australia there was an uproar about he's Ledger being disrespectful,

859
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: and he came out later and said, I was back

860
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: to back interviews. I just wanted to eat something. I

861
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: needed to quickly eat something. And it was a kind

862
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: of taken the wrong way.

863
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: Yes, but they it's all that and it's only the

864
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 3: real I'm sure Killy Murphy's fine. He sat in the

865
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,959
Speaker 3: studio and watched Sky News on the monitor. He didn't

866
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 3: look at me once and kept giving me yeah, it's

867
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 3: a it's a good scene. Not really, yeah, well you know,

868
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: and then he had the audacity to say have you

869
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 3: seen this movie? And I'd seen it, I'd suffered through.

870
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: It was one of his early ones, and it wasn't

871
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: very good.

872
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: Because I think with him and quite a few other actors,

873
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 1: they see themselves as artists and therefore the whole media

874
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: gambit that comes with it and the press and the

875
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: pr A lot of people aren't. They don't enjoy that bit.

876
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: Oh, I can understand that, and that might be, and

877
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 3: the the how strenuous it is, just being asked the

878
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: same questions all day.

879
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I asked you what your favorite Karl was,

880
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: So I'm sure it's fine.

881
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine, I'm not doing forty three of these today. Yeah.

882
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: Mentally, Yeah, I think we don't realize.

883
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 3: Once you've been interviewed by Lola Perry, you don't need

884
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: to be interviewed by anyone else.

885
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: There's there's my sound grab, there's.

886
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: Do you want me to repeat it?

887
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: Oh, you're amazing. Honestly, you are so so amazing. Okay,

888
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: I've got a couple more questions that I know. I

889
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: am so aware of the time and it's just flying

890
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: with you. Okay, two more things. First of all, I've

891
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: heard you say something that got me so inspired, and

892
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: you said I don't have regret.

893
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: No, I don't.

894
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: Can you explain that a little bit? Because that I

895
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: love that, I've got that feeling. I love it, But

896
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: I do have fear of regret, like I live going. Oh,

897
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to have fear. I'm going to jump

898
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: towards that scary thing.

899
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 3: I think there are a lot of people who could

900
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: do a lot of things who don't do it because

901
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: they're scared of failing. Yeah, I've got a family member

902
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: who I would love to have had go on some

903
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: of the television shows that the idol or whatever. It's

904
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 3: never hasn't happened, It won't ever happened. Could be a superstar.

905
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: And I never discussed it with them. I'm not even

906
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 3: saying for they're mate or female, but I've never discussed

907
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 3: it because I realized that there are lots of people

908
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 3: who won't put themselves out there for things. If I

909
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: hadn't put myself out there for young tell the time,

910
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: even though I was desperately shy and new faces, none

911
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: of this would have happened. So but you do have

912
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: to be prepared when some opportunities come along. Because when

913
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: I started doing Keino, suddenly people saw me talking.

914
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: And by chance the people who were.

915
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: Running three GL too long running the radio station, they went, oh,

916
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: you can actually talk in my ninety second seguence, hear

917
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: the numbers good night. But they said, oh, he might

918
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: be all right to do some radio. So I started

919
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: hosting mornings at three GL.

920
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: Had to learn how to panel, and mornings is a

921
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 1: very early start, isn't No.

922
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: Mornings was like eight thirty to well, that's okay. But then.

923
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: Keino was happening. Then suddenly I was on the radio.

924
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: This is all music at this point, and then three

925
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 3: MP rang me to Melbourne that went really well there.

926
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: But I always wanted to do talk. But you've got

927
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: to be ready when you get the opportunity. There's been

928
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: a lot of singers who had a bit of a

929
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: cracket radio and failed miserably. Really yeah, because they think

930
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: it's all about them and it's not. It's about the listener.

931
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: I love that. So basically your goal every time you

932
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: go on is to give back to listener, hear the listener,

933
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: and inform the listener.

934
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: Is that kind of even when you're disagreeing with them, Yeah, oh.

935
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: You've got You must have the patience of a saint.

936
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 2: Then.

937
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: I am a very impatient person in many areas of life,

938
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: but there are some things I'm very patient with.

939
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: And is this where you mentioned earlier when you were

940
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: younger with the young talent times off, it was your

941
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: drive that carried you there? Has it been your drive

942
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: that's been able to get you to that point of

943
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: going Yeah, I was shy. I can feel the fear,

944
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: but I'm going to do it anyway. Is that the drive?

945
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, yes it is. I just wish I could

946
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: have got over some of that earlier in life.

947
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: It sounds like at fifteen though, that's you're you're an

948
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: a type personality. You've got you're doing good.

949
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 3: I had the skinniest, most horrible and I still have

950
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 3: them legs. I wasn't confident about myself, but.

951
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: That's a lot of people. Yeah, yeah, even for me,

952
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: Like I know, I sound really confident, but I batter

953
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: with my confidence all the time. And I think as well.

954
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: In media you're kind of forced to do that on

955
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: a very concentrated you're very hyper aware of yourself, yes,

956
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: and so that confidence you need to somehow have you back.

957
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: It's a tricky balance. Thank you for that one. That

958
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: was my notebook of because I yeah, my goal is

959
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: to live without regret. That's one of my mottos. Good,

960
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: So thank you.

961
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: It's I just feel like we I've met in life.

962
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: I've met a lot of people who give the impression

963
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: that they're far better than what they actually are, and

964
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 3: you get a lot of other people who have that

965
00:48:59,040 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: lingering doubt.

966
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: It stops them. I think you go with something.

967
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's okay to feel it out, but yeah,

968
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: you've got to have the drive that, like you said,

969
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: propels you forward. So the next one, I want to

970
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: talk to you when this is my last question. I

971
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: promised my.

972
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: Friend I watch to sell me. It's time to get moving. Yeah,

973
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: I bet thanks for that.

974
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, work ethic because you've kind of you've touched

975
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: on it already, like you've there was obviously a period

976
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: of your life and I think it probably is a

977
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: constant where you've worked that seven days a week and

978
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: kind of knowing what you wanted from quite a young

979
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: age and being like, well, I'm just going to go

980
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: for it. Also knowing I really want to work in radio,

981
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: I really want to And how much of it Obviously

982
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: a lot of it is skill set and a lot

983
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: of it is talent, like your voice is phenomenal. And

984
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: then there has to be another bit that's work ethic, right, Yes,

985
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: how much would you say it? Like, how how much

986
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: would you say is work ethic?

987
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: A lot?

988
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot.

989
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: There are a lot of people in my our industry

990
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: who want to sit back and have everyone adore them.

991
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: You've just got to work, You've got to work.

992
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 3: I'm reading a book at the moment called Catch of

993
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 3: That the people who started Catch, Catch of the Day

994
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 3: and Catch.

995
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: I'll put it in the show notes.

996
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: I'll find scoop on the Libwitch Libowitz brothers. Well, they've

997
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: written a book and it's just saying exactly how it's been.

998
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 3: Not how clever am I. It's been bloody hard work.

999
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: These are people who started off going to markets. They

1000
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: were getting there at four am, so they got the

1001
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: best spot. Now they turn over hundreds of millions of

1002
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 3: dollars a year, So it's working hard. It's not always

1003
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: going to pay off, but it has to pay off

1004
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: in some way.

1005
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Do you know Nova host Tim Blackwell? Yes, So

1006
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 1: I had him on and he talked a lot about

1007
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: John Laws, him being an inspiration, and I said, how

1008
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: much is talent how much is heart work? And he goes,

1009
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: talent might get you in the door. Granted, he's like,

1010
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: so I might hear you somewhere and go I'm going

1011
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: to give this guy a shot. And he's like, but

1012
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: if you want to keep it, if you want to

1013
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: stay there, that's all hard work, which I love.

1014
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: John Laws is still on air, Bob Rogers and Sydney

1015
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: just retired. I think it pushing up ninety.

1016
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: Is there one thing as well, just with radio and TV,

1017
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: is there a difference in because the pace feels different.

1018
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Radio, you have no idea what's coming next?

1019
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: Talk radio? Talk radio, I'm talking about You have no idea.

1020
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: You don't know if the next caller. The last couple

1021
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 3: of weeks on air, we've just had a couple of

1022
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 3: callers that have said things that are just so wrong,

1023
00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 3: so bad, so amusing showing me to go and multiply

1024
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: talking about sexual things. You don't know what's going to

1025
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 3: come and how do you handle. Television is usually very

1026
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: structured and can be edited and whatever.

1027
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: Right, and they've got even Live to air has got

1028
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: usually a little delay so they can bleep if they

1029
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: need to bleep.

1030
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got seven seconds. Wow.

1031
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: I love that. I love knowing that.

1032
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and doing nights, you get a whole different it's

1033
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: a whole different vibe.

1034
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, because people are up late as well, because is

1035
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: it eight to midnight.

1036
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: Till midnight and not when footy is on their footies

1037
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 3: on first, but a till midnight for six months of

1038
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 3: the year, which is great, and then a till midnight

1039
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: for most of each week when the foot's on.

1040
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: And I know you're a footy man, I know you're

1041
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: a cat.

1042
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 2: I know we are Toolong, the greatest team of all I've.

1043
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: Seen you do it in the carols at half the

1044
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: crowd booze. I'm like, this guy is game. Okay, quickly,

1045
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: what's next? I know you've got an album coming out

1046
00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: in April.

1047
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 3: The album's coming out in April through Sony Music. A

1048
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 3: chance meeting in a lyft. Really we're on the Sunshine Coast.

1049
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: A whole lot of things that happened, I said to

1050
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: my wife and ed on the way into Marruci door.

1051
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 3: I said, look, there's been a whole lot of bizarre

1052
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 3: things happening that makes me feel like it's time to

1053
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 3: do another record now.

1054
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: We weren't supposed to be there in January.

1055
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 3: We were supposed to be there last September and we

1056
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 3: had an illness in the family couldn't go. So here

1057
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 3: we are at the time. We weren't supposed to be there.

1058
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: I booked at the hotel, walking to the lift, and

1059
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 3: the fellow in the lift says, Dennis, how are you?

1060
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 3: I thought, right, he said, Dennis Handlin, Ah, he's the

1061
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 3: boss of Sony Music.

1062
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.

1063
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 3: So within ground floor to third he said, why aren't

1064
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 3: we recording you? I said, I don't know. He said

1065
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 3: it will happen, And I didn't have long enough to think, well,

1066
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 3: is that just lyft talk or he's a lovely man.

1067
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: I've known him forever, hadn't seen him for twenty five years,

1068
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 3: And within forty minutes he had two of their executives

1069
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: ring me, I love this.

1070
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: And then I've.

1071
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 3: Started recording the album. It's become five tracks of collaborations

1072
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: Brian Kad, John, Paul Young Vicker and Linda Marusha and

1073
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 3: we're doing a John English track. And because John's obviously

1074
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: no longer with us, his son's going to play the

1075
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 3: guitar guitar solos on it. So that's all happened this

1076
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 3: year that's coming out. It's like sixties and seventies songs,

1077
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 3: feel good. It's exactly what I used to do before

1078
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 3: I got known as this became known as this big

1079
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: belladeer thing.

1080
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: It's the music I used to do.

1081
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 3: Awesome, and then this idea for the Christmas single comes

1082
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 3: out about seven weeks ago when it was released on

1083
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 3: the sixth of November. That same day of the release,

1084
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 3: Carol's rang me. Kate cal Halliday rang me and said

1085
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 3: we want you to do your new duet. That was

1086
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 3: the day of the release. These things are bizarre and

1087
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 3: I don't believe in fate at least I didn't.

1088
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: Oh, I think you got to do now, Yeah, you

1089
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: have to, especially with creative things like this is the

1090
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: there's a business side to what you do, but there's

1091
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: also a creative and kind of like heart driven side

1092
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: and that that you've got to trust.

1093
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 2: Well, yes, this is like it's meant to be.

1094
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 1: Well, I cannot wait, and I can tell everybody listening.

1095
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: The Christmas single is officially out. Now I'm going to

1096
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: put in the show notes so people can just click

1097
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: and listen.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: It's music Forever dot com, dot are you, and there's

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Speaker 3: a PUW bonus Christmas tracks and money going to Salvation

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Speaker 3: Army Christmas is.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'll make sure that that's the right link

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Speaker 1: that goes in. Dennis Walter, you are an incredible human

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Speaker 1: being and you have totally built up my cup today.

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Speaker 1: You've really inspired me to live without regret, to work hard,

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Speaker 1: and to make my dreams of reality. So thank you

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Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, honored my friend me too.

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Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. This potty my word

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Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love

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Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rape and comment, and of

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Speaker 1: course spread the love.