1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Firstly, we know that on the agenda this morning for 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: the government is certainly this legislation around police officers being 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: assaulted and other frontline workers. What exactly is the change 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: to this legislation. 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, really important legislation amendments to the Criminal Code 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: which we'll make spitting an aggravating factor. So this means 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: that judges can consider it as a more serious offense 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: that carries higher penalties when they are considering before the court. 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: Because again, we absolutely value our frontline workers and we 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: need to make sure that when they are met out 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: there talking to people on the ground and looking to 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: protect the most vulnerable people, they are given that assurance 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: that they can do their jobs without being victim. 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: The opposition leader was just on the show. She reckons 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: that the reality is, you know it's someone that a 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: judge isn't going to convict someone for ten years for 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: spitting on someone and the should have been different so 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: that it made it a defense or you know that 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: there was time served for the first time round, no 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: matter you know what your history was, I mean, why 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: did you go down this path instead? 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: Look, as a government, we absolutely value the role of 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: our judiciary and the role that judges play and this 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: is about giving them a tool chest with measures in 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: that test to utilize when they are looking at sentencing. 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: The leader of the Opposition is not a judge, will 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: leave that for the judges to make that determination when 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: they're considering on a case by case basis. 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: Chancy. 30 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: We know. 31 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: One of the other things that's on the agenda this 32 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: week is indeed the Opposition hoping to bring forward a 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: motion which would see a Select committee into the concerns 34 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: that we've got right now within the police force, so 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: not into crime, but into the police force and certainly 36 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: the issues that we're seeing with attrition and morale. Is 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: this something that the government is going to knock back? 38 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: Look, Katie, the Government will consider things when they're brought 39 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: into Parliament. That matter hasn't formally been brought in to 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: Parliament and discussed yet, but obviously Minister Warden, Minister the Police, 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: Fire and Emergency Services is doing a great job in 42 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: the areas of reform when it comes to Police, Fire 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: and Emergency Services. We'll wait to see if that comes 44 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: on this week. The CELP have a good track record 45 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: of saying they're going to do stuff and delivering buggerall 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: we saw that with the fuel bill, so maybe they'll 47 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: discuss that this week as well. 48 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean you must be concerned though, as a government minister, 49 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: particularly one based out of Central Australia, to see those 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: recent results from the police survey and the morale within 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Police Force at the levels that it is. 52 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: I mean, surely a look into this is a common 53 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: sense thing to do thirty days, you know, to have 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: a select committee look into it. We've done it before 55 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: with things like fas D to the former Speaker and 56 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: a Member of the Legislative Assembly Keisierpuric, who we spoke 57 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: to yesterday, So surely this would be a good thing 58 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: to look into, given the concerns not only from the 59 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: rank and file but with the community. 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Look Katie again, if the CLP do decide to bring 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: this to Parliament this week to talk about the establishment 62 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: of a committee, certainly our elevant portfolio ministers will have 63 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: the opportunity to speak in Parliament about it and step 64 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: that through. But this can't just be a political witch 65 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: hunt for political points for the CLP. It's got to 66 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: actually be about working through those issues and issues. I 67 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: know firsthand that the Minister for Police buyer and emergency services. 68 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: Mister Warden is absolutely doing the heavy areas of work 69 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: in those police portfolios right now. 70 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: Now, Look, I know it's not your portfolio, so I 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: will leave that aspect of things there. We are going 72 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: to be catching up with the Police Minister as I 73 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: understand it, tomorrow morning, so I'll put some of those 74 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: questions to her. But Minister, what else is on the 75 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: agenda for the government this week? 76 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Katie. Look, we've also got this morning coming 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: up the Animal Protection Bill that's again to increase certainty 78 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: to the fishing industry and stakeholders looking at streamlining that area. 79 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: We've got introductions this week of the Monitoring of Places 80 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: of Detention also known as the OPCAT Bill being introduced, 81 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: and that's about providing an establishment of oversight for places 82 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 2: of detentions and that's in line with aspects of the 83 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: Northern Territory's Royal Commission into the Tension of Children in 84 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: the Territory. Katie. We've also got the swearing in this 85 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: morning of our newest member of the Territory Labour Team 86 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: and the new member for Fanny Day. So certainly lots 87 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: on this week for discussion for debate and certainly we'll 88 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: see question Time being a fiery debate as it always. 89 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: In sure it will be well Leader of Government Business 90 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: Chatsey Paik. We are going to leave it there for 91 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: this morning. I appreciate your time and no doubt we'll 92 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: talk again. 93 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, no, look, no worried, Katie. Thanks for the time. 94 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: And I also just think it is certainly a good 95 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: opportunity for the opposition leader to come out and denounce 96 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: the Proud Boys because the territory has no place and 97 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: there's nothing to be proud about any relationship with them. 98 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, now, just on that. So obviously we did just 99 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: ask the opposition leader about it, and you know, she'd 100 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: sort of said that she gets photographs taken with all 101 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: sorts of people all the time. You know, what exactly 102 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: is the accusation here from your perspective. 103 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: Look, I think it's an important issue to discuss and 104 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: we absolutely need the leader of the opposition to come 105 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: out and apologize to territorians and to denounce the Proud 106 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: Boys in any relationship that the CLP have with them. 107 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: Getting a photo with someone who is a supporter of 108 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: the Proud Boy's movement, who holds the flag and does 109 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: the hand signals is absolutely appalling and we need to 110 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: be saying that that behavior is certainly not tolerated in 111 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: the territory. We've noted that there are photos of this 112 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: particular individual at anti Vaxx rallies, he's had photos with 113 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: the leader of the opposition, and we understand that he's 114 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: had photos that the CLP function for the Funny Bay 115 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: by election. So certainly this is something that people need 116 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: the assurance of that there is no room for this disgusting, bigoted, 117 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 2: vicious attitudes towards people, and we need to make sure 118 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: that no leader in the territory is allowing that behavior 119 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: to continue. 120 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: Chancey, is this just mudslinging by the government here, I 121 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: mean it is true. I'm sure that you've even had 122 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: photos with people at different times, and you know you've 123 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: not done a criminal history check on them, as Leafinocchio 124 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: said just before, Oh look, Katie. 125 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: I think that when you you have a public photo 126 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: of going around with an individual holding up the Proud 127 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: Boy's hand signal with a shirt on and the flag 128 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 2: at Anti Vaxx vllys Turk is small enough that people 129 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 2: know people and people could say to people, look, don't 130 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: we advise you to not be too connect the closely 131 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: to this individual. So look, if that is the case, 132 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: then it would just be a simple matter for the 133 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: leader of the opposition to come out apologize and say 134 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: she doesn't support that behavior and she doesn't support that 135 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: particular movement. You know, we were out at Calgarinji over 136 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: the weekend and the leader of the Opposition was there 137 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: standing with First Nations people saying that they value them 138 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: and that they value the contributions that the Aboriginal Landlight 139 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: that had made. And then it emerges that only a 140 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: few weeks beforehand, she was proudly standing next to getting 141 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: a photograph of the proud boy. 142 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: Look, somebody has just messaged through and said is the 143 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: government going to condemn the situation that is on the 144 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: front page of the paper today where there is a 145 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: former labor staffer obviously accused of some pretty serious accusations. 146 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: Look, that matter is before the courts, and of course 147 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: the Teritory Labor government does not support any behavior that 148 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: absolutely is discriminatory, that is vicious, that is bigoted, and 149 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: that puts people in harm's way, and we will absolutely 150 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: call out behavior where it is unacceptable and that's what 151 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: we're asking the leader of the opposition to stand up 152 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: and do well. 153 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: Chancey Paig, the Attorney General, but also the leader of 154 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: Government Business. I appreciate your time this morning. Thanks for 155 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: speaking with 156 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: Us, mate, Thank you, you two