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Speaker 1: Some of you will remember my next guest, young Max

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Speaker 1: hats Glue.

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Speaker 2: He was my producer for a little while there.

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Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Max, Good morning Katie. It's great

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Speaker 3: to see you again.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so good to see you in this studio. We've

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Speaker 2: missed you.

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Speaker 1: But you're back in the territory, which is absolutely wonderful, as.

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Speaker 2: We knew you would be.

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Speaker 1: And you're back well before I get into the to

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Speaker 1: the ashes, you're back actually coaching cricket and playing, aren't you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at Tracy Village out in Lines Wo.

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Speaker 3: So it's been great fun over there, and obviously the

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Speaker 3: weather's just beautiful compared to Victoria Adelaide, where I was

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Speaker 3: in previous winters down there.

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Speaker 4: So it's so good for your run down south come

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Speaker 4: up here. It's so good.

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Speaker 2: And what a wonderful opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I always think, you know, I love sport, and I

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Speaker 1: just think, what an incredible opportunity for you as a

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Speaker 1: young bloke to be able to travel around and coach

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Speaker 1: and play the sport that you love.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty lucky. I can't really complain too much.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's been it's been an enjoyable experience and

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Speaker 3: it's great to be in the territory.

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Speaker 4: It's so good for cricketers especially. Yeah, so no, I'm

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Speaker 4: loving it. And there's plenty going on in cricket.

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Speaker 1: There seems to be heaps going on in cricket, like locally,

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Speaker 1: but also when you look at what's going on overseas.

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Speaker 1: The poems are very, to put it, very bluntly pissed

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Speaker 1: off with us at the moment, aren't they.

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Speaker 4: Yeah they are.

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Speaker 3: That's one way they're going off the crowds over there.

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Speaker 4: Just some of their chances are a bit unfair, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, tell us Max, because you you know, like you

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Speaker 1: know what's going on with the cricket.

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Speaker 2: Obviously you are a great player yourself. You're coaching. Like

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Speaker 2: what the Aussies did, it was within.

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Speaker 4: The rules, wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, or what they did was completely fine. There

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Speaker 3: was nothing really wrong with it. It was just an

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Speaker 3: unusual way of going out, which has sparked a bit

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Speaker 3: of an uproar. But what Alex Carey did that we

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Speaker 3: keep it was completely normal. Bearst I did it earlier

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Speaker 3: in the Test match in that same game. So what

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Speaker 3: Carry did wasn't really out of the box and it

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Speaker 3: wasn't against the spirit of cricket. So there's nothing really

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Speaker 3: wrong that he did. So that's that's the first thing

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Speaker 1: Tell us, you know, have you, like, have you seen

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Speaker 1: that happen in games that you've been involved in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've done it. Oh yeah, people do it all

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Speaker 4: the time. And I think the part where there's a.

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Speaker 3: Bit of controversy is because once Alex Carry had taken

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Speaker 3: the ball, the ball could be deemed dead. So that

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Speaker 3: means that the ball's dead, so the batter can leave

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Speaker 3: their crease and people can do whatever they want. But

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Speaker 3: the ball actually wasn't deemed dead by the umpire and

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Speaker 3: and so he's walked away. He's walked away and you're

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Speaker 3: out of your crease and the ball with the stump,

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Speaker 3: So that's that's a runout.

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Speaker 4: It was a runout. Yeah, so they might not.

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Speaker 2: Like it, but it's the rule. It's fair. It's fair.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: And there is a part in the rule spirit of cricket,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's written in the rule book and

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Speaker 3: that that's where it's like, oh, spirit of cricket. Here

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Speaker 3: there was a little bit of confusion. It was a weird,

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Speaker 3: strange situation. Maybe Australia withdraw their appeal and and call

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Speaker 3: Bearstow back.

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Speaker 4: But but it.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't to be and the umpires deemed it out. So

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Speaker 3: the funny part of all this is the MCC. They

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Speaker 3: write the rules and the right they've got.

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Speaker 4: The spirit of cricket rules and you've got these Australians.

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Speaker 4: Now these get treated when it was horrible.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that was actually like to me and I you know,

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Speaker 1: I love my sport, love contact sports. I've grown up

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Speaker 1: as you know in Mount Eyes are watching some of

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Speaker 1: the worst all in brawls and things that you've ever.

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Speaker 2: Seen at the footy.

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Speaker 1: But that was like that was a bridgeway too far

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Speaker 1: what they'd done once they.

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Speaker 4: Left the field.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I can understand a bit of passion

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Speaker 3: for your for your team and country, but just what

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Speaker 3: they're copying, cheat, cheat, cheat as they walk off and

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Speaker 3: you know, they're only like they've got a privilege here

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Speaker 3: where they're only within like a meter of the players

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Speaker 3: and they get really close to them. But if they're

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Speaker 3: going to have that privilege, respect the players and some

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Speaker 3: of the stuff that was thrown around in the videos

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Speaker 3: and you're seeing and the audio that you're hearing is extraordinary.

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Speaker 4: It's terrible. Really, it's not fair at all.

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Speaker 2: It is. It's absolutely terrible.

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Speaker 1: Now I know that you've not played at the standard

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Speaker 1: off you know, like you're you've not played for the

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Speaker 1: Australian team, but you've played in some pretty elite cricket teams.

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Speaker 1: I mean that kind of behavior, Like, how would that

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Speaker 1: feel for you if you were walking through and you're

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Speaker 1: trying to get to the change.

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Speaker 2: Rooms and that was going on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly has an impact on the players and

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't be good for the players.

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Speaker 4: Especially.

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Speaker 3: It's hard for the players to know because these supporters

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Speaker 3: can be quite biased sometimes and they're just doing it.

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Speaker 2: Just so they're one eyed like Australians.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, but it can have an impact and I'm

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Speaker 3: sure hopefully they can handle it. But when it gets

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Speaker 3: it can get a bit overwhelming when it's so constant

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Speaker 3: and it happens all the time. But yeah, it was

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Speaker 3: pretty I reckon they went over the line a little

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Speaker 3: bit at the crowd there and the Poms they're still

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Speaker 3: they still think they're on the on the.

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Speaker 2: Front pages of the papers over there.

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Speaker 1: They're basically saying the Aussies up to their old tricks

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Speaker 1: and all this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: They're fully put in the boogie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they are, tell you what though, it's really spuck up.

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Speaker 3: The next game and then there's three more Test matches.

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Speaker 3: Australia's won two nil, so it could really derail England

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Speaker 3: and cricket if if they lose the next two games and.

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Speaker 4: There's just going to be a big mess for them.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting watch what's your tip? What

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Speaker 2: do you reckon is going to happen?

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Speaker 3: I think at home you can't see Australia winning every Test,

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Speaker 4: But I think England will bounce back.

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Speaker 3: But Australia's they're so good that the team they've got

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Speaker 3: out there are really good. And for them to be

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Speaker 3: beating England, I think they've only ever done it twice

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Speaker 4: So wonderful team is doing very well at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, a wonderful woll mate. They were asking me

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Speaker 1: about the cricket on Sky News last night. I should

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Speaker 1: have called you beforehand to just get some background.

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Speaker 2: Rule checks, mate, to know exactly what the go is.

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Speaker 1: But I like the way that I actually put it

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Speaker 1: last night, and I would say it again, is that,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you were at an under twelves game

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Speaker 1: and something like that happened and people were chanting, you know, cheat, cheat,

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Speaker 1: cheat on the sideline, you get kicked out and you've

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Speaker 1: been a lot of trouble. So I think that you

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Speaker 1: can't you know, you can't be behaving in that way

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about cricket being played in the most

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Speaker 1: or it's meant to be the most respected place.

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Speaker 4: The home of cricket. That's right.

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Speaker 3: And I think three of the members got band or

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Speaker 3: they caught something wrong. They copped something for it, which

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Speaker 3: was good to see them acting it, but yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: not a good example for the kids and people in

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Speaker 3: these days you know, TikTok and everyone can see all

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Speaker 3: these things. It's not the best example. So good that

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Speaker 3: they're setting a setting an example by banning these these members.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, yeah, yeah, they really needed

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Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't really acceptable.

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Speaker 4: So we'll see what the response is. But doesn't look

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Speaker 4: like the problems are backing down.

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Speaker 1: And then the Prime Minister's like stepped in and he's

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Speaker 1: basically called us you know, or said that it wasn't

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Speaker 1: in the spirit of the game, and you go, well,

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Speaker 1: hang on a second. What's not in the spirit of

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Speaker 1: the game is getting up in someone's face afterwards when

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Speaker 1: they're meant to be able to get to the sheds.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you call them sheds, it's there.

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Speaker 1: They're pretty fancy. But yeah, I just thought it was

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Speaker 1: a really interesting scenario. But yeah, we'll wait and see

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Speaker 1: exactly what happens. Now. Max, you're here in the territory coaching, playing,

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Speaker 1: but you're also writing.

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Speaker 2: You are a journalist at the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 1: News, a sports journalist at the moment, so lots of

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Speaker 1: people have probably seen you byline on different stories covering

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Speaker 1: it all.

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Speaker 4: Mate. Yeah, it's trying to keep it on top of everything.

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Speaker 3: It's it's been good fun and it's been great to

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Speaker 3: cover some local stories and there's there's plenty of good

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Speaker 3: things happening out there, especially in the world of sports,

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Speaker 3: so it's.

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Speaker 4: Been I can't complain. It's it's great fun. And they're

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Speaker 4: going to have a league teams coming up soon. We

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Speaker 4: had the a f L, had the n r L cricket.

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Speaker 3: Maybe in future we might see, you know, a big

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Speaker 3: game happen up here, and you know there's plenty of

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Speaker 3: other things going on the Salties. I've got a big

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Speaker 3: weekend coming up, so I see your face the same

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Speaker 3: Katie on the.

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Speaker 2: Embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: We might have to catch up with you more often, Max,

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Speaker 1: to talk sport. You know, I like talking sport, but

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Speaker 1: some of them aren't my forte. But you'll be able

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Speaker 1: to step in and help.

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Speaker 4: Out, well, are you Queensland?

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Speaker 2: Definitely about that. Don't go for those dirty new South Welshmen.

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Speaker 2: Good on your Maxie.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you mate, Thanks so much for coming

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Speaker 1: in this morning, and we'll talk to you very soon.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Katie, great to see you again