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Speaker 1: Well, as you've just thirty in the local news, we

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Speaker 1: know that an incident at the Greek church yesterday allegedly

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Speaker 1: saw the mayor and the opposition leader Leo Finocchio heckled

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Speaker 1: and verbally abused to the service marking a sacred Greek

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Speaker 1: holiday at Saint Nicholas Church in Darwen, CBD. Now joining

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Speaker 1: more about what happened. It is the Lord Mayor of

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Speaker 1: Darwin convat Scarlus. Good morning to you, con, Good morning

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Speaker 1: Katie Con.

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Speaker 2: What happened yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Well, yesterday is the Greek national day of twenty eighth

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Speaker 3: of Oktoba that commemorates the victory of the Greek people

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Speaker 3: against the Italian fascist that invaded Greece nineteen forty. Now

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Speaker 3: that's a sacred day. The two big national days in

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Speaker 3: Greece the twenty fifth of March and twenty eight of Oktoba. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: some people decided to use that particular day and that

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Speaker 3: particular venue to express the andi vaks and anti mandatory

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Speaker 3: vaccination sentiments, which was not the right place, not the

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Speaker 2: Con How many people were involved.

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Speaker 3: About twenty or thirty, but you know the smaller minority,

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Speaker 3: the smaller the group, the louder the sound. They were

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Speaker 3: about three hundred people there, they attended the national Day.

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Speaker 3: But these people choose that, particularly at the end of

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Speaker 3: the day, of the end of the ceremony, to start yelling,

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Speaker 3: heckling everybody who I didn't agree with their opinion, myself,

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Speaker 3: including and of course Livnociaro and one of my Electric members,

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Speaker 3: because they only want to listen to their own views,

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Speaker 3: nobody else's views.

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Speaker 1: So con was it outside the church or inside the church?

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Speaker 1: Where exactly did it happen?

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Speaker 3: It was outside in front of the memorial We've got

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Speaker 3: the building. The grounds of the Greek community in Kavanaugh

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Speaker 3: Street were usually laid the riffs.

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Speaker 2: Did you feel threatened?

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Speaker 3: I've been through a lot in my life, Kate. These

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Speaker 3: people make a lot of noise. But as I said before,

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Speaker 3: it's a very small minority in the Greek community, but

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Speaker 3: unfortunately give a bad name to the whole community, and

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Speaker 3: it's nationally and probably the nationally. But before the same

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Speaker 3: people that wrongly predicted the lockdown, I remember if there

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Speaker 3: was revealed by the Anti News a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: The same people, the same people that actually you never

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Speaker 3: see them in the national celebration. But all of a

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Speaker 3: sudden they turned up yesterday.

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Speaker 2: What exactly were I sign?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Same same, We all you're all sold out and

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Speaker 3: things like that. It's just and yelling about their rights.

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Speaker 3: They are right not to be vaccinated, to us be

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Speaker 3: vaccinated and we will be losing our jobs and everything else.

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Speaker 3: Well then all, very well, that's a health order that's legal,

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Speaker 3: and the order says you have to be vaccinated. So

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Speaker 3: if you're coming with vulnerable people, you have to be vaccinated.

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Speaker 3: And unfortunately a small community like ours, we come in

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Speaker 3: contact with a lot of people. And the other thing,

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Speaker 3: of course is I don't know hen realize that when

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Speaker 3: the virus comes here, our system will not be unable

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Speaker 3: to cope with a number of people going to get sick, simply.

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Speaker 1: Collapsed, I mean conn We do know that there are

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Speaker 1: some serious concerns about businesses potentially having staff leave due

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Speaker 1: to the vaccine mandate. Has the timing and the mandate

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Speaker 1: been managed properly and sufficiently by the Northern Territory government.

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Speaker 3: Well, the businesses they're losing stuff, where are they going

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Speaker 3: to go? As many a record as mandar vaccination South

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Speaker 3: Australia the same Westerner South, the same Queensland too, w

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Speaker 3: the same. I mean, it's not like I'm where to

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Speaker 3: live from your state and go to another does require

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Speaker 3: man vaccination. Most of the states, if not all the

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Speaker 3: states now require managed to vaccination. The other thing is.

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Speaker 1: L vaccination laws are much more strict though, aren't they.

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Speaker 1: Like My understanding is that in the other states a

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Speaker 1: lot of it does relate to particular particular industries, but

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Speaker 1: out here in the territory are quite strict in terms

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Speaker 1: of it sort of impacting more industries.

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Speaker 3: Well there isn't. I believe that government did that one.

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Speaker 3: It's because of the number of vulnerable people we've got

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Speaker 3: here and a significant digital population. But if you look

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Speaker 3: at Western Australia, by January seventy five percent of the

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Speaker 3: workforce has to be vaccinated. If you look at Victoria,

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Speaker 3: all the construction industry has to be vaccinated, plus the hospitality,

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Speaker 3: plus the health industry. So we're moving the situation that's vaccination.

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Speaker 3: If you want to get a job in an area

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Speaker 3: where you interact with the public, you have to be vaccinated,

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Speaker 3: and that does not happen only by the stage. My

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Speaker 3: understanding now is calls world wars quandas virgin all their

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Speaker 3: stuff have to be vaccinated. Con and to tell you

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Speaker 3: the truth, other councils were obliged to have asked that vaccinated.

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Speaker 3: We advised the council and re elected members that they

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Speaker 3: have to be vaccinated.

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Speaker 1: So is it a council requirement and not? I believe

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Speaker 1: that you and I spoke about this actually last time

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Speaker 1: you're on. But is it a man like that the

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Speaker 1: Olderman and in deed all the stuff with the council

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Speaker 1: are required to be vaccinated.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he does. And we advise the Olderman that if

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Speaker 3: they don't get vaccinated, they can't come to the meetings,

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Speaker 3: they can't come into council buildings, and they can't perform

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Speaker 3: there due to the community meeting and greeting people. They're

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Speaker 3: not that very well. And also our stuff have been

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Speaker 3: advised the same.

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Speaker 2: And has there been any pushback from aldermen?

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Speaker 3: Not to my knowledge, there a lot of oldermen now

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Speaker 3: have submitted the copy of their certificates to the CEO

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Speaker 3: as the legislation requires, and the same thing applies to

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Speaker 3: their stuff. There would be some people for various reasons.

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Speaker 3: Medical reasons were quite valid. They say I can't get vaccinated.

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Speaker 3: The only thing to do is provide the doctor's certificated states.

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Speaker 1: And with those aldermen, though I know that you said

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Speaker 1: they can't attend the meetings and these various duties that

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Speaker 1: they can't actually do as a result if they're not vaccinated.

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Speaker 2: But ultimately they can't be sacked, can I No?

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Speaker 3: No, they're elected members. But again, if you don't do

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Speaker 3: your work as an alderman, the community would know you're

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Speaker 3: not around. You don't talk to people, people can't talk

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Speaker 3: to you. Then they have to actually respond to the public.

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Speaker 3: Regarding to that con.

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Speaker 1: Just to go back to the church in incident, is

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Speaker 1: it disappointing that something like this has happened at the

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Speaker 1: Great Church?

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Speaker 3: I accept people, they've got their own point of use.

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Speaker 3: I accept people they want demonstrated and they're welcome to

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Speaker 3: do so. But to do it in the right place

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Speaker 3: in the right time. Yes, there was not neither the

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Speaker 3: right place nor the right time. It was a Greek

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Speaker 3: national day. It was not the day for you to

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Speaker 3: actually have one of your freedom matches. You can do

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Speaker 3: it any other time. It was very disappointed.

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Speaker 2: Con are you concerned?

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Speaker 1: I mean, at the moment, there does seem to be

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Speaker 1: a percentage of the community that are really concerned.

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Speaker 2: They do not want to get this vaccine.

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Speaker 1: You know, whether they're vaccine hesitant to whether they're business

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Speaker 1: owners that are concerned about having to implement that mandate,

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Speaker 1: or whether they're people who outright do not want to

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Speaker 1: get the vaccine. Are you concerned that this does seem

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Speaker 1: to be causing division within the community.

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Speaker 3: As said to you before, they are a very small minority,

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Speaker 3: and if you look at the same time, I don't

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Speaker 3: see the swelling growth of the freedom rallies. They're the

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Speaker 3: same five hundred, eight hundred people every time. Division. I

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Speaker 3: don't think so, mark my awards. In a six months time,

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Speaker 3: nobody will be talking about the vaccination because we're going

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Speaker 3: to be vaccinated and we'd be feared much much better

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Speaker 3: when the virus comes to the territory because nowaday of

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Speaker 3: the border's open, it's more likely to wild come to

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Speaker 3: the territory.

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Speaker 1: Convet scarlars just before I let you go. I mean,

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Speaker 1: are you worried for your safety in anyway as a

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Speaker 1: result of some of these protests and what happened yesterday?

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Speaker 3: No, Katie, I don't, but I just feel embarrassed that

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Speaker 3: actually something like that happened.

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Speaker 1: When it happened, Convet Scarlus, the Lord Mayor of Darwin,

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Speaker 1: thanks very much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Katie, thank you, thank you,