WEBVTT - RHOBH - RECAP - WEEK 9 - ALANA MCLEAN 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.640 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:05.440 TV Reload the podcast last week. Thereby, Hey, guys, welcome 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:07.120 back to TV Reload. I want to thank you for 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:10.879 clicking and downloading on today's episode with my friend Alana McLean, 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.720 my fact checker, my housewife, Right or Die, and the 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.800 best person to spar with over some ladies that we 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:21.200 act like we know but in fact we will never meet. 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.279 We have another top shelf episode for you this week. 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.680 The ninth episode of Beverly Hills season fourteen is called 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.680 Beachy Keen and guys, we got some resolution with Kyle 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.120 and Dereete, and thank god we did not have to 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:35.919 wait till the end of the season. That is all 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.680 I'm saying. We will discuss the way in which Erica 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.000 chooses to navigate what she repeats to Kyle about Dereete 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:45.240 to keep her nose clean. I will get Alana's perspective 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.080 on Sutton's lack of ability to read a room, which 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.639 her reaction to that awkward interruption of Dereet will go 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.560 down in Real Housewives history. We will also address that 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.880 decision to not tell your children that you've separated from 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.840 their father. You were going to get plenty of speculation 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:05.520 on the mid season preview, what were our favorite parts 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:09.000 of episode nine and a request from our listeners on 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.920 what Andy Cohen should be preparing to ask these women 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.400 when we get to the reunion. There's actually so much 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.320 to talk about, with so many inside revelations from Alara 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.479 and myself. So guys, sit back and relax as we 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.800 unpacked the wonderful world of Real Housewives at Beverly Hills 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.640 Season fourteen, Episode nine. How are you, by the way, 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:29.200 are you well? 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.839 Just having a Limonicello spirits? And I'm on the countdown 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:35.840 to Italy and I'm going to pretend I'm on a 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.600 cast troop when I'm over there, except I haven't told 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.880 my husband. That's the kind of mentality that I'm going 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:42.800 into the trip with. 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:44.720 So when I. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.320 Watched back all the other women. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.000 Well, I was watching back on old series ten. 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:50.840 I think it was when they go to Rome and 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.800 I was writing down all the name of the bars 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.520 and everything, and then Robbie, we can't afford to go 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.880 to any of those places, like, please stop doing that, 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.160 And I was like, well, you'll just say. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.440 Oh my god. For the people listening to this, I'm 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.880 wearing a face mask. So I sound a little bit weird. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.920 It's because I'm restricted. My face is restricted. 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.720 It's everyone's strength come true. Then Norris can no longer talk. 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:15.360 This is what you're here for. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.240 Oh my gosh, I love it. 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.320 You look out standing, and you just you can look 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.600 even better in about half an hour from now. 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.239 Well, I can tell you that I've been drinking green 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.520 juices because they're meant to be really good for my 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.360 skin and for feeling better, like gut health, you know, 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.600 mind health or whatever the fuck that is. And he's 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.720 kind of working. I don't know what's going on, Like, yeah, 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:38.280 so gross, but good for my mental health. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.239 Okay, well that's great. I'm feeling quite bad about my 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.120 limon cello choice. Then, given it's only two pm in 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:45.120 the afternoon here. 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.560 The confidence of a person that knows that no one 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:53.280 from their work is listening to this podcast is declaring. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.200 I just like I heard it back and I thought 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.839 it out of context. People are going to think you've 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.000 gone too far there, cracking a drink at two perre. 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:01.720 I'm getting that on a T shirt. I don't know 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:10.200 what you're talking about, or what or what psychotictic I 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.280 want to start by asking something which I've been thinking 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:17.000 about a week. Has your opinion of Bozma and someone 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.800 who corrected me online last week for you and I 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:20.760 calling it Bozman? 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:22.040 Oh my god? 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.880 Was it just to actually feel like I've been meaning 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.680 to tell you this for four weeks and every time 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.880 we do it, I'm like, oh, well, we've already said it. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.680 Now we've moved on. I think I've just called her bows. 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.560 But then I'm like, hang on, I think it's just 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:41.400 bos muf. Okay, we've been corrected. Apologies, apologies, bows and muf. 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.800 Yeah, we have been corrected. But look, it's totally fine. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.040 But I think I really want to start the podcast 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.520 by talking about Bozmak because I want to know is 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:53.360 your opinion of her changed? Because very Salt Lake City, Bronwyn, 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.080 I'm getting the feeling as though we let her believe. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.040 We kind of allowed our minds to think that she 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.440 having the perfect season, but yet on reflection, is she 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:04.880 as good as what we thought she was? 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.160 I think she's better. I am loving her more with 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:12.600 each episode. I love the fact that she I feel 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:17.240 had the perfect balance of observation and then also getting involved. 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.440 So I feel like we have got to see some 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.480 of her personal life. I feel like we've got to 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.520 see her friendship with Derete actually flourish. I don't think 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.240 that is you know, behind the scenes as well. I 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.200 don't think it's a fake friendship. I think it's a 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.000 real friendship. And they've traveled together. She was in New 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.320 York together. They were celebrating Boza's birthday over there, and 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.680 Derete and I feel like, you know, her reads on 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.120 everyone have just been so spot on. So for me, 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.760 she's elevated. I liked her in the first couple of episodes, 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:48.479 and she's still on the trajectory for me? 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.080 Is she not for you? 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:51.599 No, I don't know what's happened? 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:52.600 Well, you're off her. 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:54.760 Yeah, the Bosma has curdled. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:55.400 I just. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:01.080 I just feel like she's going so so hard for 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:05.320 Kyle Richards. Kyle continues to lie. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:10.359 She's lying about the depth of her relationship with Pique 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:14.200 and what she's saying about Dorrie. She's clearly lying about 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.720 the depth of her knowledge about what's going on. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.120 And look, let's not just leave that with bose mut 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.720 All of these women are going so hard for her, 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.279 and I just I just don't know if Bozman's the 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.320 right person to go after Kyle. Does she really know 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.680 her well enough to be really saying as much as 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.000 what she says? I mean, maybe she's just playing defense 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:33.800 and when she catches up at direct, you know, it's 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.560 just very easy for her to go. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.240 I don't feel like she's come for Kyle. 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.360 All she did was basically at that last episode say, 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:43.480 I think you should read the text. I think in 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.800 her confessionals she has said some stuff. 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:47.880 But I think it's been warranted. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.239 And I don't think she's actually come for Kyle face 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:52.560 to face, don't. 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.360 I don't think she has. I think she's asked the 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.000 questions that everyone else will be asking, what do you 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:58.480 want to talk about? Willis? 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.279 She's been quite quite fair who in her questions to 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.720 Kyle as of all the women, And I just don't 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.719 think Kyle was banking on everyone turning against her. That's 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.280 what That's basically what it's come down to, and that's 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.880 what the penny dropped for a few of those women 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.480 at that precursor dinner before they. 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:17.760 Went to Garcel's beach house. 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.960 That's when she realized, I don't have the troops on 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:22.719 my side. I need to change direction. 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:25.680 I mean, we need to get into that. But one 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.960 thing I will give you, Bosma, She's definitely not there 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:30.480 to fuck spiders this season. 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:31.680 She is back. 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.839 I love that it's such an Aussie saying, but it's 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.880 truly she. I mean, she has signed seal delivered that 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.120 diamond for next year, honey. 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:42.680 If she wants it. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.360 If she wants it, let's hope she does. 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:45.720 Yeah. 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.440 Yeah, I like someone who's willing to give it. There all, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:52.080 you know, Erica not feeding back her conversation with Derete 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.000 from the day spar in the previous episode was proof 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.280 to me that she's actually being a very good friend 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.080 to both of these women, because she was able to 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.719 get on that phone call and talk to Kyle and 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.320 give Kyle good advice. When she was brought up on 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.919 the Erica Durradi phone call. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:14.160 He's Siri FaceTime, Erica Girardi. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.000 Thanks Kyle for not changing her name to not Girardi. 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.440 But anyway, maybe that's what her name is. I don't know. 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.720 I think everyone's calling her Erica Jane. But I thought 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.240 if that was me, I would have said, you know 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.400 what you got? You know what my girl said yesterday 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.640 about you? She wants me to pick aside, you know, 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:30.520 but she didn't do that. 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.880 No, she didn't, And I think she's shown that she 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.120 is very trustworthy. I think when Dereit first came to 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.160 her and said, you know PK and I getting separated 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.400 that we saw in the season premiere, and she didn't 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.000 and she said, look, I'm going to be honest with you. 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:47.600 I'm seeing Kyle after this. What do you want me 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.680 to say? She said, I prefer you not to say anything, 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.760 and she didn't. So I think she definitely is a 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.840 trustworthy friend. And I mean, thank god she didn't, because 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.720 I think that just would have inflamed the whole situation 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.920 to another level. It'll be interesting to see when that 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.560 comes up at the reunion. I'm sure they'll roll some 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.000 of that footage back what Kyle's reaction will be when 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:11.080 she watches that back. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.440 Do you spend a lot of the episodes these days 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.880 looking at KRT Richard's lips, Like I spent a really 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.160 long time looking at how much she's rubbing them together 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.560 and eating food and like as in she looks like 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:24.720 she bought a mouth on team. 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.640 I don't think you can like pass judgment when you're 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.240 wearing this face mask, and I'm looking at you in 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.679 this face mask because you know what I mean. But 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.560 Diana Jenkins, remember Diana Jenkins got a lot of stuff 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.320 said to her online because she kept licking her lips, 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.600 and she basically ended up saying, I actually didn't realize 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:44.440 that I did it that much. 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.800 But it's the filler. It's the filler. You can't sort 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:48.839 of feel your lips as much. 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.280 And you they're a bit numb, and you sort of 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.880 just touch them all because you know you can't feel them. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:55.720 So it must be the same thing. I haven't got 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:56.600 filler in my lips. 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.280 I've contemplated it, and if I ever go down that road, 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:00.319 I'll report. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.880 You can tell me if I'm moving my lips together 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:03.320 too much. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:09.240 I'm here for Simla. I'm here for simlaa MacLean lip filler. 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.360 I don't know not to say that your lips are bad. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.240 I'm just gonna quick a little. 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.640 Bit that I feel like it's a little bit thin now, 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:16.960 Like I'm feeling like. 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.240 Now, what happened? Do you think it's deflated over time? 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.600 Yeah, they do, they deflate a little bit. It's the 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.079 collagen or something. I feel like this is where it starts, 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:26.439 and it's a slippery slope. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:27.160 I'm going to be. 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.679 Looking like you know, God knows who in no time Wisner. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:35.240 Oh, yes, filler? 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:41.400 So am I so good? The way that I would 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:46.520 say Sutton and Garcel also speculate over Kyle to every 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:51.160 detail is completely and utterly unhealthy. I mean, we know 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.959 my obsession with Kyle Riches is unhealthy. That is fine. 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.319 But the way that these women can only talk about 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.120 that when they get on the phone to each other, Oh, 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:01.360 I'm good. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.080 So how are you, by the way, random that Kyle 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.240 wants to have dinner tonight considering we're all going to 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:09.480 see each other tomorrow. 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:11.120 I don't know. 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.520 You have to answer this question for me, but is 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:17.160 this normal behavior for women to focus in on one 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.559 particular friend in the friend group and go hard for them. 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:21.800 I don't feel like. 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.720 I mean, we only saw one part of that conversation, 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.679 but I was actually like yes, because I feel like 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.280 when Kyle organized that dinner for the night before, they 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.800 were onto it straight away. They were like, this is us. 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.480 Kyle's never done this before. She knows we're filming the 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.640 next day. She's not going to be like, hey, let's 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.280 have an impromptu dinner and they were like, she's trying 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.720 to rally the troops, which is what we talked about 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:49.040 last week. It was recruitment, it's getting allies, it's getting 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.160 a temperature check on where those other women are standing 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:56.080 on her with this text issue before she goes back 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.200 into battle the next day. And I think what we 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.480 ended up seeing was there a of those women not 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:06.160 being forthright and coming on her side and saying, yeah. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.319 Durt's out of line. You shouldn't feel bad for the 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:09.319 text blah blah blah. 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.800 I think the fact that what happened at that dinner 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.160 and Garcel saying, you know, I think you probably should 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.520 have just said me and PK talk a little bit 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.400 of shit about you, blah blah blah. 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:20.520 That would have been fine. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.920 If you said to her, you know what to read, Yeah, 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.520 I talk a little with PK about you because I 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:27.360 was also mad at you. 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:28.559 That's also normal. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.160 I think when she realized those women were not going 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.560 to stand up for her in another group setting because 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.280 I didn't agree with her, I think she realized, I've 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:38.320 got a change tact here. 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.719 I really need to, you know, change direction. I've got 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:42.959 a back down I've got. 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:46.000 No one necessarily in my corner. I don't have the numbers, 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.480 and I've got nowhere else to go. And that's how 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:49.959 I think that played out on the beach. 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:54.360 Carle certainly has and always has, and over time, anyone 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.160 that's collecting a dorser on this would know she got 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.120 patent behavior, you know, stuff that we see. But it 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.439 makes me wonder whether or not she's aware of it. 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.360 Do you think that she's as calculated as what everyone 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.319 thinks because I've been friends with I'm not going to 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.600 say women, because I actually don't want to say that. 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.400 I want to say all people. I've been friends with 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:19.200 people over time who aren't consciously manipulative, but leave themselves 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.560 open for others to suggest that they are, you know 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.840 what I mean. Like, I think that she's very lonely. 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.199 I think that she's very scared. I think there's a 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.760 lot of change happening in her life, and I think 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.120 it's natural to be like, Oh, I've got to go 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.480 to Garcel's beach house tomorrow. And the last time I 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.920 saw all these women in dressing gowns, they weren't that nice, 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.240 and so I'm going to really need to make sure 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.160 that I've got some friends to take with me. Is 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:43.920 that a bad thing? 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:45.600 I don't think she's been. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.800 I don't want to say manipulative because I think that's 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.400 too strong of a word. But I think she's smart 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.079 enough to know how it plays out when you've been 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.439 on the show this long. And I think when they 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:03.040 rolled back all that footage, which again I was like, Oh. 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.000 The questions, but that's what's going to have to happen. 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.240 She's going to have to answer more than she's comfortable with. Well, 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.160 that's because you know what we deserved another. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.360 Truth and I'm talking about it. I'm being more honest 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:10.760 in the group. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.920 Okay, So for me to be questioned ladies, women that 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.240 know me, it is extremely frustrating to me. 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.720 The producers and then putting those edits in of all 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:22.840 the times that she has said you have to be 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.199 open and honest, she's going to have to answer all 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.600 the questions. She's going to have to say more than 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.439 she wants to. You need to say more. 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.360 I thought, well, this is what it is. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.440 It's hypocrisy to sit there and say I don't have 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:39.280 to answer these questions, or you know, view it a 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:39.959 different way. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.520 And I think That's basically where it got to. 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.840 And she realized the other women were not on her side. 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.320 She had to change TAC with the read And when 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.319 they sat down to have that beach conversation, I just thought. 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.760 Wow, we she has put up the white flag. 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.600 She's just gone, I've got nowhere else to go, and 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:57.880 whatever Duried. 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.640 Says, I'm just going to go, yes, yes, yes, sir, 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:02.000 Yes sir, yes. 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.440 Sir, and basically just hope that this whole thing gets 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:05.520 blown over and move on. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.440 Can I just jump back on a point that you 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.439 made about Kyle wanting people to be open and honest. Right, 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.480 what do we know about Sutton and her personal life? No? 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.920 I feel like Sutton we still haven't seen as much, 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.160 but I just don't think there's as much there. I 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.080 think we're seeing Sutton, you know, do what she does best, 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.440 and that is stir the pot and get in there. 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.640 And when she sat on that couch and said Kyle, well, 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.080 why are we here? Like, I don't understand what the 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.800 apology is for. It's not really clear. You could see 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:33.120 Kyle was on the back foot. 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:37.080 I got confused in all the words why you were apologizing? 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.240 So I just want to be very clear, but why 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.720 you felt like you needed to apologize. 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.160 She was like, oh god, I thought I would just 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.360 say sorry and all these women be like, that's okay, babe, 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.920 Like you're going through a hard time to reach. Shouldn't 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.480 be coming for you. She should understand you've been the 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:53.880 best friend. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:55.160 But they pushed her. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.240 They pushed Kyle, and Kyle got put into an uncomfortable 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.360 place where she's like, Okay, well I've got no allies here. 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.480 And I have to turn around on the direction. 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.160 So to go back to your point about seeing them 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:08.680 on the couch and what they're going to. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:09.720 Say about their real life. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.480 I feel like Sutton has really stepped up on the 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:16.640 pot stirring, and I think that's what she'll be able 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.400 to hang a haut on. I mean, she would have 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.640 taken on that Lisa in a role in terms of 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.360 wanting the accountability from people. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:26.120 Lisa Brenner was accused of that for nine seasons of 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.600 her being on the show or something like that around 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.840 about that sort of episode, that that amount of seasons, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.320 you know, stirring the pot and earning her you know, 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:38.400 earning her diamond by just being that not talking about 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.640 the family too much, like we never really got to 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.200 know Harry Hamlin that well, and even with the girls, 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.280 like we really didn't get to know them that well. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.120 We've got to know her mum. But I mean, I 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:48.160 think she showed enough. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.160 I just don't think Sutton has as much to show 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:55.680 us there. I mean, I find her very strange personality. 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.760 I feel like, you know, when Dereitt's opening her heart 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.040 out in the kitchen, saying, oh my god, my son's 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.400 finally asked this question about whether we're getting divorced, and 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.040 she's like, okay, so we'll wrap it up and get. 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.200 In the cut. Like she's strange. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:11.120 She's strange, cookie, strange, pumpkin, I think, is what Darite 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:12.680 said before. 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.240 I was rudely interrupted, Well, sorry, we got we do 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:15.880 have any. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.040 This was a wall of the story. 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.120 Of all times. To interrupt Sutton. This is not it. 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.000 But you know that's the role that she plays. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:32.640 That's what makes more interesting television, and you know it 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:36.840 brings a difficult conversation to the table sometimes, but it 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:37.480 needs to be had. 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.560 I don't know, talk to me about the weight loss 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.800 that you had between the last season and this season. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.680 I know we're talking and we're skirting on very difficult 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.520 grounds because I don't think it's comfortable or the right 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.840 thing to talk about people's physical appearance. But I guess 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:51.400 what I'm trying to say is I just would like 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.160 to know a little bit more about her as a person, 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.560 Like I just feel like we've learned that from other people. 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.160 I'd like the veil to be lifted. I'd like to 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.840 be less plots doing and more humanizing yourself to us, 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.720 because at the moment when you interrupt a conversation like 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.160 what Durite was having about something very serious, and I'm 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.560 sure that even people that don't like Drete would have 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.480 found it really uncomfortable to watch a woman talking about 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.560 her child like that, opening up and then being interrupted 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.280 to be like, oh my god, it was so cruel. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.199 It was very bizarre, and I don't know how you 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:25.920 could read a room that badly. 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:27.399 I really, I really don't. 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.000 I mean, we see in the mid season trailer, just 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.000 to jump to that for a second, her having a 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:35.280 goal at Drete and saying, well, mar Wilett's bigger, So 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.280 there is obviously something coming there. But I think that's 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.440 I think, you know, when you start to think if 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.440 comments like that are coming out of your mouth. 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:47.200 You really do think that you are in a different league. 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:48.160 She's getting that. 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.840 Three hundred and fifty grand a month from her ex husband. 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.960 She has so much money. But then I feel like, 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.439 when you're saying things like that, you actually do believe 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.680 you're on a different level, and she just must think 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.320