1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the RAP, a weekly podcast covering women's sports news. Bez, 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: what have we got around the grounds this week? 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: Courtney Mine is on fire for Sydney FC. Lauren Jackson 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: is maybe still going to the Olympics. New research shows 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: that six of the top ten properties experiencing the biggest 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: increase in online search volumes were women's sport properties. 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: How good, It's very good, It's very very good. For 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: the key story, we'll chat about the allegations against Sam 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: Kerr over in the UK. My name is Chloe Dalton. 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: I'm joined every week on the show by my co 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: host Bez. We're recording on gadagal Land. Let's take a 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: look around the grounds on me. In football, the final 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: of the knockout tournament in the UK, the Conte Cup 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: has been decided. Arsenal beat Aston Villa for nil and 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: Chelsea hung on to defeat Manchester City one neil. The 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: final is set form All the News Stadium in Wolverhampton 17 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: at the end of this month, but they might have 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: to look at other options as the thirty two thousand 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: capacity in Wolverhampton will just not be enough anymore, not 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: even close, not even close. Last week ESPN reported that 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: Arsenal's average attendance this season is thirty four, nine hundred 22 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: and ninety seven. That average is greater than ten men's 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: Premier League teams. We all watch women's sport like that 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: awesome T shirt from our friends together. Everybody watches women's sport. 25 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: I love that. 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've sold out Emirates and had sixty thousand plus 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: three times. 28 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 3: So good. I don't think they will move the final, 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: but gosh, I wish they would, I know, because people 30 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: will be locked. 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: Out and we don't want that. 32 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: No. 33 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: In Snowsport News, Jakhara Anthony won her thirteenth gold medal 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: of a record breaking World Cup season. The event in 35 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: Kazakhstan saw her break American Hannack Khani's record for most 36 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: mogul wins in a season, and she's still has a 37 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: chance to add another in Italy next weekend. 38 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: Is so good? 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: What a boss. 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: Anthony will add three Crystal globes to the trophy cabinet 41 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 2: for her absolute domination in the single en dual moguls 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: format and the overall points score. Crystal globes are scary 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 2: to be traveling around with, aren't they? 44 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you take them? Carry on, I. 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: Think so, isn't they coming to special case? 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: I would hope so. I agree, See, I could be 47 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: quite hefty though the globes are big. Yes. 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: Speaking of crystal globes, Danielle Scott defended her World Cup 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: Aerials title after the final event in Kazakhstan was called 50 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: off due to bad weather, which apparently included very thick fog. 51 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: We don't want thick fog, not when we're hurling ourselves 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: meters into the air and doing slippy flips and then 53 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: trying to land. 54 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no. 55 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: Good full visibility required absolutely. 56 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: Scott was super consistent throughout the season, with her four 57 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: second place finishes enough to secure the Crystal Globe as 58 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: the season's aerials champion. 59 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: In basketball, Game one of the WNBL Finals series between 60 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: the South Side Flyers and the Perth Links was a 61 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: fairly sided affair. They came out firing, didn't they the Lynks. 62 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: They started fast and led by twenty three at halftime. 63 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: Despite a late flurry of threes from the goat Lauren Jackson, 64 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: the Lynx took game one one oh one to seventy nine. 65 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: Amy Otwell was huge for Perth, finishing with a game 66 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: high thirty points and the Flyers will need to win 67 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: away from home in Perth on Thursday night to keep 68 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: the three game series. 69 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: Alive and in a goat at the Olympics. Update, Jackson 70 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: has come out and said that Basketball astraya if Basketball 71 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: Austray can arrange to have her two boys with her 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: in Paris, she will reconsider her international retirement. 73 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: That's a big, big flip, isn't it. 74 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: It is so she was speaking last week and she 75 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: said that it was leaving the boys before heading to 76 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: Brazil for those qualifiers that left her consumed by guilt. 77 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: She recounted dropping them at her parents and she said 78 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: that Harry said some things to me that really hit home, 79 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: and I felt great, mum guilt. I was missing Lenny's 80 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: first day of school and Harry's birthday that week, and 81 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: again Harry said to me, Mum, you missed my first 82 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: day at school last year as well. 83 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: Sad. 84 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: It's pretty tough. 85 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 86 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: So, given how well she's playing at the moment, though, 87 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: it seems that she's had a little bit of a 88 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: reconsider and she's i think basically indicated that if she's 89 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: selected and bust will Stray come to the party in 90 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: regards to being able to send the boys with her. 91 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: We might just see her at her fifth Olympic Games. 92 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So this one's a really interesting discussion. So I think, well, 93 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: we obviously talked about last week around the provisions for 94 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 1: breastfeeding athletes to be able to have access to facilities 95 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: and things like that. So I think in this example 96 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: that there's provisions to help have a care for a 97 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: child up to the age of five, but because her 98 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: boys are five and seven, they kind of sit outside 99 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: of that. And it's an interesting one because I feel 100 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: like it's only LJ that would have the ability to 101 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: have those discussions potentially, like because she's the goat, I 102 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: feel like she has the ability and I think baar 103 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: in negotiations at the moment to make it happen. 104 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: I think it becomes with that whole kind of equation 105 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: of is she worth it? Would you be worth it 106 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: for the opals problems? Not? 107 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: No? 108 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: Is Lauren Jackson worth it? 109 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: Yes? 110 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, discussion over make it happen. 111 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: On to the next in a league. In football, Courtney 112 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: Vine miss the Matilda's qualified due to personal reasons, but 113 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: she needs to be well and truly in the plans 114 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: for Paris. Based on her performance for Sydney FC on 115 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: the weekend. Fine scored two goals in the second half 116 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: to help the sky Blues to a three to one 117 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: win over ladder leaders Western United on Saturday. That result 118 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: means Sidney FC sit only two points behind Western United 119 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: and they have a game in hands. 120 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: Very tight at the top. The Central Coast Mariners are 121 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: also on the charge. They beat the Brisbane Raw to 122 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: zip in Queensland. Kyle Simon is getting back to her best. 123 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: It's awesome to see and she scored the winner in 124 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 2: the second half. That win will take the Mariners to 125 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: third place on the ladder. And as I said, it's 126 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: very tight. 127 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: It's so cool seeing Kaya back doing her thing is. 128 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: It is great. 129 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: It's a lovely problem that I think that not a 130 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: problem really, but it's a great time in regards to 131 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: Paris with Sam kerr osly missing, very very good point. 132 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: Thank you. In some stats news, We Love Stats. 133 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: Sport on Search twenty twenty four is a report released 134 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: late last month that ranks sports organizations based on search 135 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: results in twenty twenty three. 136 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: I Love this Red Torch. 137 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: The research company analyzed Google trends from twenty twenty three 138 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: and compared results with each group's previous four year average. 139 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: The results of women's sports show what we all know 140 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: people want to know more about women's sport. 141 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: Some of the key takeaways bears that we loved the 142 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: Women's Super League so over in the UK, the WSL 143 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: recorded a two hundred and fifty eight percent increase in 144 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: online searches in twenty twenty three, the largest increase of 145 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: any sport. So if we compared to one of the 146 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: men's comps to Major League Soccer, the MLS, it came 147 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: in a distanced second, with an uptick of eighty seven 148 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: percent more searches than in twenty twenty two. Basketball's EuroLeague 149 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: women weren't far behind it seventy six percent. The UA 150 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: for Women's Champions League at seventy percent, came in fourth 151 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: and fifth, respectively. Those two comps. Six of the top 152 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: ten properties experiencing the biggest increases in online search volumes were. 153 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: Bears women's sports properties. 154 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah they were. 155 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: The report it's a really interesting report. We should link 156 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: to it, actually, it's worth a read. It noted that 157 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: accessibility is crucial for continued growth of women's sport, which 158 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: we all know broadcasting live and free too. Wear increases 159 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: that visibility and allows for greater engagement. 160 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: It's all common sense kind of stuff. 161 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: It also pointed out that consistent coverage and investment is 162 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: needed to capitalize on the spike after major events such 163 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: as a good example was the fee for World Cup 164 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, and obviously what we've got now 165 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: to build off is the Paris Olympics. So it really 166 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: highlighted that short term investment can be converted to long 167 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: term fans if a growth strategy is combined with targeted 168 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: That targeted investment and the WSL numbers show us that 169 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: just think this is a this We do talk a 170 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: lot of stats, and we talk a lot of kind 171 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: of reports, but I really love this one because if 172 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: you want to really simplify it, this is measuring the 173 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: appetite for women's sport. 174 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the people are hungry. 175 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm here for that. I don't even think you've planned that, 176 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: but I like it. 177 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: I'm just appetite. I had a small breakfast this morning. 178 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: We're hungry. 179 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: We are hungry. 180 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: This is exactly what this is. 181 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: This is showing that people are actively searching for information 182 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: on women's sport. 183 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: When we're talking appetite. I'm just going to throw something 184 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: in there that I wanted to talk about on the 185 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: podcast this week, and I haven't given you a heads 186 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: up about, But there was this great Caitlin Clark piece 187 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: of data looking at the fact that if she is 188 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: going to go number one in the w NBA draft, 189 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: which is she will, like, you'd be ridiculous Indiana if 190 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. 191 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: But instant clean out of the coaching staff. 192 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: And see you later. There's been a huge spike in 193 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: demand for Indiana Fever games all and ticket sales. The 194 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: prices of tickets have jumped to huge amounts and US dollars. 195 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: When we post this singer who does our socials on 196 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: t Factor this great post, there was some interesting comments 197 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: around the fact that these really high prices can actually 198 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: exclude a lot of families from going to support and 199 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: watch someone like Caitlyn Clark live. What do you think 200 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: about this idea of as women's sport continues to boom, 201 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: that there might be a demand that can shut people out. 202 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: I think it's an unfortunate reality. I think that when 203 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: you say that word demand, for me, it's supply and 204 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: demand and the reality is that Kaitlyn Clark is that 205 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: good that people will pay over and above to see 206 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: her in real life. I understand that, you know, cost 207 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 2: of living crisis is making it hard for people to 208 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: get out to things, But I think what's important to 209 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: understand in this aspect is in this instant is that 210 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: this stadium won't be empty. They're not checking up the 211 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: price that it'll have empty seats. And I understand that's 212 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: not wonderful for everyone, but the reality is that, you know, 213 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: the more people we get there paying more price, hopefully 214 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: that money flows back into the game and into the 215 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: women's side of the organization and we see continued growth 216 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: and maybe they're playing bigger stadiums and it becomes cheaper. 217 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's a really good point. It almost 218 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: pushes the argument even further to put them in bigger 219 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: stadiums so that can be more accessible. But I think 220 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: one of the interesting things we've seen off the back 221 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: of this Sam Kerr discussion as well is this idea 222 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: that with equality coming in women's sport also comes some 223 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: negative things. 224 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely that everything, there's a balance to everything, and equality 225 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: is going to have some negative sides to it. 226 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think this is an example of that 227 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: as well. As there's a huge amoun for an athlete 228 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: like Caitlin Clark. One of the downsides could be the 229 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: cost of ticket prices. Is there potentially more responsibility maybe 230 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: on the sporting organization, those who are running ticket sales 231 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: to make it more accessible. 232 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, I do. 233 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: I just said, as we've said, I do see that 234 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: point coming from the people. But I think if you're 235 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: going to go watch an elite athlete at the top 236 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: of the game, then sometimes you got to pay for it. 237 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: I mean, we pay premium prices to watch men's NBA Yep, 238 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: don't get me started on NFL tickets that I paid 239 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: for last time we were there wholely. But like yeah, I 240 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: just think again, it's equality, isn't it. 241 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the key story. 242 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: In some more football news. 243 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: So there was plenty going on when it was revealed 244 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: last week that Sam Kerr had been charged with intentionally 245 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: causing racially aggravated harassment, alarm or distress to a male 246 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: police officer in January twenty twenty three. 247 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: It was originally. 248 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 2: Reported that Kerr was involved in a dispute relating to 249 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: a cab incident and called the officer a stupid white 250 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: We're going to say. 251 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: The word bastard. 252 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: I think we can say it right. 253 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: It's been said her legal team have applied to have 254 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: the case to missed on grounds of abusive process, and 255 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: that hearing is schedule for April twenty six this year. 256 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: The Australian reported that Kur denies the claims and she 257 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: instead called the officer a stupid white pop. 258 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, former soccer and anti racism advocate Craig 259 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: Foster actually apologized publicly to Sam After on Twitter well 260 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: ex as it's now called after he earlier called for 261 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: her to be removed a skipper if found guilty. So 262 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: what happened is he kind of called her out when 263 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: it first came out and said she should be stood 264 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: down as captain of the Aussie team. But then sounds 265 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: like he's gone away done a bit of research, and 266 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: so he admitted that he previously had a bit of 267 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: an incorrect understanding about what racism was. He said, like many, 268 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: I mistakenly thought that comments that reference any color and 269 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: were discriminatory, demeaning or hostile were a form of racism. 270 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: I apologized to Sam for that mistake. He went on 271 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: to cite the Diversity Council of Australia's definition of racism, 272 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: which states that racism takes place when that person is 273 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: in a position of race based societal power, meaning using 274 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: the word why, it does not fit this definition as 275 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: they are not a marginalized or minority group. And I 276 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: think I was probably a little bit surprised that someone 277 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: in Craig's position that does a huge amount in the 278 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: diverse and in inclusion space and campaigning for rights and 279 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: freedom of people across the world, that he didn't I 280 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: guess have that understanding previously. 281 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's why it was kind of 282 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: important to include this in the discussion, because someone like 283 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 2: Craig Foster was also confused with what how racism is defined. 284 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 2: I think it's excellent of Craig to put his hand 285 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 2: up and said I've apologized, I've made a mistake. I've 286 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: gone on to do some more research and understand that 287 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 2: this is not a racist trope. And I think that's 288 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: probably one of the biggest things that people are quick 289 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: we talk about equality, people were quick to jump on 290 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: top of Sam in a negative way and also go 291 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: to bat for her in a very kind of supportive way. 292 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: We obviously had some back and forth on social media 293 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: about it when we posted, and I think as we 294 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: spoke about it kind of offline that again, it's that 295 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: if this was a male footballer, we'd be reporting the 296 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: same kind of things. And at the end of the day, 297 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: this is where we're at and it's great. It's great 298 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: that this kind of equality is being seen and you 299 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: know that there are going to be some negative aspects 300 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: to that. 301 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think just the fact that, yeah, as 302 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: you said, you included this discussion with Craig, I think 303 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: was a big one to kind of redefine it because 304 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people have talked about this concept of 305 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: reverse racism and things like that, which is. 306 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: Just malachy good word. Football Australia have come out in 307 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: support of Kurr. There was a bit of back and 308 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: forth about her not having told FA, but they have 309 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: come out in full support of Kurt and as has 310 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: her club at Chelsea. 311 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, I guess watch this space. 312 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: I think the thing that blows my mind the most 313 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: about all of this is the time lapse involved. It 314 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: happened twelve months ago. The hearing is set for another 315 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: twelve months. It's just this legal challenge. It's going to 316 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: be held in April twenty six to have it thrown out. 317 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: Long process. 318 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: Gosh, why did if she was still playing? 319 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: Obviously she's rehabbing, which is probably worse because she's got 320 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: idle time to think about it. Yeah, but if she 321 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: was playing, she's hanging overhead while she's preparing for Olympics, 322 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: it'd be pretty ordinary. 323 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at what to watch. Game two 324 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: of the WNBL Grand Final Series is this Thursday at 325 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: the bendat Basketball Center in Perth. The game is already 326 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: sold out, so if you missed out on tickets, you'll 327 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: have to watch live on the Nine Network or ESPN. 328 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: Tip Off is six thirty pm Local time, which is 329 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: nine thirty pm a e d T. Game three, if required, 330 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: will be on Saturday night. 331 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: Question for you, I was watching Game one last night. 332 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: They were talking about how Game two was already sold 333 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: out Sunday to Thursday. 334 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: Can we move it to a bigger stadium please? 335 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: Berth surely it really gets under my skin when when 336 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: we lock people out of these events. 337 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I get it. 338 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: If that's the biggest stadium they've got, I'm pretty sure 339 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: the bendat Basketball Center is not the biggest stadium. It 340 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: can't be that they could be playing that game in 341 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: Where do the Wildcats play? 342 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: Are they still called the Wildcats? 343 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: I reckon have a look we continue. 344 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: Great because this next story is really important. I need 345 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: to focus. Super Rugby w is back. 346 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 347 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: After an extended preseason that saw teams take on touring 348 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: sides from Japan and the pacifica team Round one is here. 349 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: On Saturday, the new sophal. 350 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: As Wortars will be hosting the Act Brumbies at Alliance 351 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: Stadium in Sydney. Kickoff is five five pm and all 352 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: of the Super Rugby games over the weekend will be 353 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: live on stand Sport. And I believe we're getting a 354 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: very special commentator on Saturday night. 355 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hey me, sorry, my jaws dropped to the floor. 356 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: Bend at Basketball Stadium has a capacity of two thousand people. 357 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: Oh stop it, what is happening there? Now? That's not 358 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: good enough for. 359 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 3: A Grand Final? No wonder it's sold out. 360 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: That's ridiculous like that. That needs to be better. 361 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: Whether the Perth Wildcats play. 362 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: So the Bend at Basketball Stadium Center is home to 363 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: the Perth links and as a training facility for the 364 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: Perth While Cats. 365 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: Rac Arena, known colloquially as the Jungle. Tell me how 366 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: many people rac Arena holds. 367 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: It's a rake. 368 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: Fifteen thousand, five hundred. Put it at the rac Arena. 369 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 3: She's fired up. 370 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm mad about that. 371 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: Fight it up? 372 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: Oh? Is it my time to keep talking? On Sunday 373 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: the Melbourne Dubby between the Victory and Melbourne C So 374 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 1: you will be a cracker. Hey, I'm actually also going 375 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: to be at that. I've got a busy weekend of sport. 376 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: You are. 377 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 378 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: The contest kicks off at two pm at the home 379 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: of the Matilda's in Bundura. If you're not in Melbourne, 380 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: you can catch the action live on Paramount Plus and 381 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: ten Play. 382 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 3: And if you are in Melbourne, find Chloe. 383 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: Please come say hello. And that's the rat. 384 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: Wrapped it up, got angry and wrapped it. 385 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm still mad. I'll see you next week hopefully, hopefully 386 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: I've settled down. Bye.