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Speaker 1: Matthew today, we are really lucky to sit down with.

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Speaker 3: Would you go as far as to say that she

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Speaker 1: I would took the words right out of her mouth.

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Speaker 3: We are, of course talking about Trish John's. She is

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Speaker 3: for long enough, and some of the kids, Jack and Cooper.

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Speaker 1: She definitely deserves her own show. Yes, definitely.

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Speaker 3: We're going to put her up on that pedestal where

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Speaker 3: she belongs, and we dive into her family life.

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Speaker 2: What it's like navigating her kids coming back to the

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Speaker 1: Ah not now sounds like an absolute night.

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Speaker 2: But we also get into when Trish was diagnosed with

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Speaker 3: She opens up about finding the lump, going through surgery

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Speaker 4: Should we get into it, Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to two doting dads and one doting mum.

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Speaker 3: I am Maddie jaysh.

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Speaker 5: And and Trish Jones, and.

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Speaker 3: This is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good,

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Speaker 3: it is the bad, and there relatable. Now, Trish, we

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Speaker 3: give any advice. We're not allowed to never will never have.

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Speaker 1: Times that we have we've got in trouble, so we

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Speaker 3: Those legal rules do not apply to guests, so you

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Speaker 5: I just like to say, you know, don't listen too

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Speaker 1: In progress and they're adults.

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Speaker 5: As a child, And what's your guess.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm trying to get a read on you to

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Speaker 2: So they forgot that you existed a little bit.

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Speaker 5: All that would be about eighteen years.

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Speaker 3: So I imagine if you're one of seven, if you

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Speaker 5: Not she would have done that. Yeah, no, was I.

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Speaker 5: The hot cheeks pumping gas in short shorts and bikini tops.

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Speaker 5: And then actually an old fellow asked me out on

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Speaker 5: Which I had politely decline.

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Speaker 3: And it's quite handsome.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he flashed the pearly whites and the cat

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Speaker 1: On the boat that doesn't move, on.

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Speaker 5: The boat the nightclub.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did you think about making an early exit.

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Speaker 5: After a couple of drinks? I was, holy fun.

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Speaker 1: It's up there. It's not for me because I'm a

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Speaker 3: Timing wise, just so happened that the grandfather of coincided

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Speaker 5: into labor? And he said, Trisha, a drink alcohol, like,

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Speaker 3: Because obviously I'm not a doctor, like slug a cigar

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Speaker 5: I was focusing on having a baby. Everyone was focusing

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Speaker 5: A week out? A week out? Yeah? So Matt had

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Speaker 5: It's time to come home now?

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Speaker 3: He said, this that you tried to buy him from

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Speaker 5: I went, okay, took my car into town. Was meant

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Speaker 5: which I was filthy about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, get sweet vibes.

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Speaker 5: Now contained in both of those is like a naturally

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Speaker 5: So three days I just eliminated everything. I did, a

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Speaker 3: I've never heard.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy what happened. So like I just what I did.

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Speaker 5: I just eliminated everything three days, different child, different child.

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Speaker 5: Crazy, no, fortunately, honestly. Okay, So I don't know how,

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Speaker 3: But what's his excuse now?

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's happenings? Back on the apple? If I ever

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Speaker 5: To yes, a truth taste just suck.

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Speaker 2: Ah wow, So just just can't like what's what were

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Speaker 5: Just hyperactivity? Hyper activity that just stopped. He just became

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Speaker 1: My kid loves apples.

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Speaker 5: You're in trouble, yes, but are they hyperactive?

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Speaker 1: I'm curious.

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Speaker 5: It might be something to just try.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get cut them off the apples.

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Speaker 5: Did I replace it with something else?

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Speaker 1: Did he ever get apple with your rolls? We just

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Speaker 5: And then he knew as he grew up peoples allowed

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Speaker 5: I think sometimes I let him have a red apple

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Speaker 2: An apple a day keeps the doctor, not in his

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Speaker 3: Whoever, I think of parenting, Yes, Marley and Lawla are

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Speaker 5: I don't know. At the moment, it's pretty bloody hard

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Speaker 3: Because let's talk about the fact that I don't know

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Speaker 5: Yes, after they both lived in separate cities for five years.

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Speaker 3: He came back first.

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Speaker 5: Jack came back first, and then went again, and then

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Speaker 5: and Jack came back.

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Speaker 3: What's that like as a parent having the kids back

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Speaker 5: Look, I thought I'd love it, you know, being the

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Speaker 5: it's not your house, Trish, it's our house. It's not

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Speaker 5: it's my rules.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Now, my mum had a rule where if we

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Speaker 5: Obviously they didn't leave by choice of football. Yeah, they left.

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Speaker 1: I don't think my mum would stand by that. Is

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Speaker 5: Of course?

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Speaker 1: Okay? And would you have them back every time or

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Speaker 5: Yeah? No, come on, I think I have them back

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Speaker 3: Have they got any bad habits now that they're living

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Speaker 5: Cooper is an absolute pig. I see that absolute pig

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Speaker 5: O c D. It was OCD as a child. Well,

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Speaker 5: he lost that somewhere in Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: I don't he probably picked up the apples again, Oh,

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Speaker 5: So he would tidy his room and close the door

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Speaker 5: no one would go in and mess it up. Okay,

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Speaker 5: now you close the door because it's such a mess

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Speaker 5: you don't want anyone to see it. I know what happened.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere along the way he was like, yeah, I give up.

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Speaker 5: It's not clean. Nothing bad happens, so you know it's okay.

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Speaker 3: As apparents older boys then, because the boy's in their

451
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 3: late twenties now.

452
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 5: About twenty six and twenty seven.

453
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you enforce rules upon them? How does that go?

454
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 5: It's tough.

455
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: Can you ground them?

456
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 3: No?

457
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 5: No, no, I can't ground I tried. What if I tried?

458
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 5: I've tried. I tried not cooking for a while.

459
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: How did that go?

460
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 5: I liked it?

461
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: I liked a lot. Everyone was starting, Oh.

462
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 5: No, it's uber delivery is constant.

463
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to take their electronics away from that.

464
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 2: You don't want to take the electronics. You don't want

465
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 2: to check the history. You don't know what's on there.

466
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't want to know.

467
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: I think you should try ground.

468
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 5: I mean I crack it every now and again.

469
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

470
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: With my mom likes certain points where it's like, okay,

471
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 2: I can't push it any further.

472
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 1: Do they respect it when you go when you cross that?

473
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 5: Yes, they know, they know.

474
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And who's more receptive to that? Jack or Cooper both?

475
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 5: Actually okay, yeah yeah. Cooper even as a young fellow,

476
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 5: like always knew he push push, push, push and then

477
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 5: but okay, yeah, whereas Jack woodsn't pushing those boundaries.

478
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, does Jack have any bad habits?

479
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 5: He could be a little tidier, but you know, I

480
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 5: have seen a vast improvement. Yeah, that's okay. And I

481
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 5: think that's more to do with his girlfriend.

482
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 2: Right, and the girlfriends allowed to stay over or they've

483
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: got to stay okay, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I understand.

484
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 1: The dynamics of.

485
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 3: I'm going to have three daughters now we are third

486
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: is going to be a girl.

487
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 5: Oh wow, congratulations, you know, thank you very much. Did

488
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 5: you know with the others as well?

489
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 3: No, that was surprised at birth, But I said to Laura,

490
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 3: we've got to find out. So I just want to

491
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 3: I just want to know. I did want to have

492
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: a boy, but same time. I'm also happy to have

493
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: three girls.

494
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 5: It's lovely.

495
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 3: You're on the other end of the spectrumhere, you've got

496
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: two boys. Did you want to have girls? Were you

497
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 3: happy to have two boys?

498
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 5: Couldn't bother me? All I wanted was a healthy child. Yeah,

499
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 5: I was well aware of what's involved in having a child.

500
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 5: Do you know what I mean? As in having a

501
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 5: baby and everything that has to go right to you know,

502
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 5: get a healthy child.

503
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 3: Is it hard being in a household where you've got

504
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: a lot of testosterone?

505
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 5: Very hard?

506
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: How do you care?

507
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 5: Very hard?

508
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 3: How do you keep your identity with so much testosterone

509
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 3: pumping through those walls.

510
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 5: I spend a lot of time away from them. Yeah, yeah,

511
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 5: I spent a lot of time in my room. That's

512
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 5: my little oasis, and it's like, don't come leave me,

513
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 5: leave me. And I hang out with my girlfriends a lot.

514
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

515
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 5: And funnily enough, I have a lot of girlfriends who

516
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 5: have a lot of boys as well. So thank you there. Yeah,

517
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 5: neighbor across the road has four boys.

518
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: Wow, you're escaping them together?

519
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes.

520
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: I think about how protective I am of my kids,

521
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 3: and I think it's got to be so tough like

522
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: sport in Australia and especially coming from a pedigree with

523
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: the surname John's, you know, there's such high expectation. What's

524
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: it like as a mum with your two boys playing

525
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: professional sport playing NRL?

526
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 5: Well they did, yet they're both retired now.

527
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: Yet how is it trying to protect them when there's

528
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: so much criticism Every player receives it.

529
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just have to ignore it, like really, actually,

530
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 5: there's no other way. I mean, you're not going to

531
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 5: fight everyone. And and the thing is a lot of

532
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 5: these people that have so much to say, they've got

533
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 5: no idea. Yeah, I would have more idea about football

534
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 5: than they do, do you know what I mean, which

535
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 5: is not saying a lot. So yeah, you've just got

536
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 5: to like realize that, you know, you can't fight their

537
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 5: battles for them. And they wouldn't want me to either,

538
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, They wouldn't want that to Yeah. Yeah,

539
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 5: they're very strong willed, independent young men.

540
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they see it like there's the times that

541
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 2: I've spent with and they seen very much aware of

542
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: themselves that they don't they don't they don't take it

543
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: on with them too much.

544
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't see that.

545
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: I don't see you know, behind the closed doors or

546
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: having them having to deal with that. So yeah, I

547
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 2: can't imagine someone you know, like especially it's like a

548
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: couch quarterback trying to tell me how ship my kid is,

549
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

550
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 5: Actually, last week on the podcast, Cooper went down to

551
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 5: and spent a couple of days with Matt's grandparents in Ses.

552
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 5: It's on the Family podcast. He was telling us all

553
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 5: the stories. Oh my god, I hadn't even heard some

554
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 5: of them. So there was one where Matt's under ten's

555
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 5: coach had a little bit of feedback that he shared

556
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 5: with Gazz. Matt having talent, but he was just a

557
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 5: bit lazy. He was wasn't doing enough, and Gaz jobbed him, what.

558
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: Yes, just straight up it's wild.

559
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, imagine if you did that these days, I.

560
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 5: Don't think gas took it so well.

561
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: While time just getting dropped, people pumping gas in.

562
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: Beiginnis, so it sounds time to be alive.

563
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: If you ask me, do you know what?

564
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 5: I actually look at you guys, I think you've got

565
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 5: a lot harder really to say that in what way

566
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 5: the technological they're parenting our kids technically, social media, all

567
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 5: the expectations status even I think that's become a bigger thing.

568
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 5: Like there's a lot more pressure on parents to you know,

569
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 5: provide more things for their kids, and I think that's

570
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 5: crazy instead of just living healthy, simple lives.

571
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: I think comparison culture is definitely more rife now online

572
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: and kids are a nightmare in that all kids have

573
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: this insatiable appetite for more and more and more. But

574
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: you could give I give my daughter a unicorn and

575
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: she'd be like, I want to yeah.

576
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: And I think it's hard now that for kids to

577
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: just be kids, right, you know when like when my

578
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: parents talk about their childhood and my childhood, it was

579
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 2: sort of.

580
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing?

581
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: Is like get out in the backyard, mate, Like get

582
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: out of here and be a kid, you know, and

583
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: climb trees and have fun with your maids, and with

584
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: your maids you can't it's like.

585
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 5: And get doty. Yeah, it's like French cricket.

586
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: It's hard now.

587
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: I think that for them really because they've got yeah,

588
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: there's all these all this technology around them, but it's hard.

589
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: They sort of lose that identity of being a kid

590
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: a little bit.

591
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 5: So I do. I think it's a lot harder for you.

592
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 5: I look at parents now and I go, WHOA, how

593
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 5: would how would I manage those things? And I think

594
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 5: that in itself is a full time job.

595
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: See.

596
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: At the same time, I look at you in your

597
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: era of parenting and I'm like, oh God, you didn't

598
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: have like you didn't have deliveries on your phone, you

599
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: didn't have this so many parts of parenting that I'm like,

600
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: you guys had it so much tougher than us.

601
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I must say, I do look at parents and

602
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 5: the kids are sitting there quietly with iPad.

603
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: There's there's your side is going down, which I had that.

604
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: Then there's the other side of going How how could

605
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: they do that to their kid? How could they do that?

606
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: It's like easy, you just press.

607
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: Know we also as well, though, because they don't know

608
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: how to regulate. So when they're watching something so locked in,

609
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: we can detach from the emotion. They don't detach from

610
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: the emotion. They're like I know with my with Oscar,

611
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: he's just like locked in.

612
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: And whatever the emotions happening on the screen, he is

613
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: that emotion. What's he into anything? Violent?

614
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 5: Really?

615
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: No?

616
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: No, Look, he's a Little Mario Kart, really Pokemon, you know, cartoons,

617
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff, And like YouTube is a

618
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: tricky one because I feel that they can easily be

619
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: taken on a different p to something the algorithm can.

620
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so actual kids, bro, Yeah, same thing.

621
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: I feel like every now and then I'll look over

622
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: and I'll be like, it's probably not the best for

623
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: him to be watching two kids car crash, car crash,

624
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: And I had two kids sort of fighting with figurines

625
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: right before.

626
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta be careful of those. Yeah, but it's

627
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: just one difference. True.

628
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: Is it twenty thirteen? You had a diagnosis that is

629
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: one that no one wants to receive, breast cancer?

630
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 5: Yeah?

631
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: Was it twenty thirteen?

632
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was the end of twenty twelve actually, and

633
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 5: then I had all my treatment in twenty thirteen.

634
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: So what led up to the moment where you did

635
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: get diagnosed.

636
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 5: I found a little lump, and I'd had a lump before.

637
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 5: My mum had had breast cancer, but that was sort

638
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 5: of in her older age, and so I do only

639
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 5: just turned forty and ish ish And I'm.

640
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: Going to sound really stupid here, but it is in

641
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: the shower or how did you discover the lump.

642
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 5: It was a really it was just like right there,

643
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 5: like it was like prominent. Yeah. And because I'd had

644
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 5: a lot previously, I was meant to go and have

645
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 5: scans regularly, but I'd changed doctors, we'd moved, and I

646
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 5: just I lost track. It's not critical lost, I lost track,

647
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 5: lost track of time. Thought I was sort of, oh no,

648
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 5: I'm still you know, within the time to go and

649
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 5: have this scan. And then and I just felt this

650
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 5: little like like they describe it a.

651
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: Little p yeah, right, that's small.

652
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 5: And then but wait for the story. This is and

653
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 5: this is why I would say to people and don't wait.

654
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 5: I mean they have mammograms and things for people at fifty.

655
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 5: Go when you're younger. Yeah, okay, go when you're younger.

656
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 5: Just ask your doctor to send you for an ultrasound younger,

657
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 5: because all you've got is if you can get in

658
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 5: early and preventative, like you don't want it spreading.

659
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll preface this with that is advice you should take.

660
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 5: It is absolutely advice you should.

661
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: That's really good too. Like I think like the message is.

662
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 5: I don't think you're too young for sure.

663
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, So did you your gut before you got those results.

664
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 3: What were you thinking it was going to be.

665
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 5: So I went to the doctor and I said, oh,

666
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 5: I've got this little lump. He went, oh, no, that's

667
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 5: my thing, he said, but you were overdue for your scan.

668
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 5: I went, okay, cool, So off I go, just you know,

669
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 5: ticking the boxes, thinking yeah, And they did the mammogram nothing.

670
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 5: I should have been alerted when they called a doctrine

671
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 5: the ultrasound thing, yeah, I still didn't really like.

672
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you really experienced in doing that all the time,

673
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: you're not really sure really.

674
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 5: Yeah. So and they came in. No one said anything though,

675
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 5: like they just got someone else in, and I was like,

676
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 5: all right, And then that little lump that I felt

677
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 5: wasn't anything. Look, and this is why I say, go

678
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 5: and have an ultrasound, despite what your doctor will say.

679
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 5: You have to take your own health into your own hands.

680
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 5: They'd have never found my lump without an ultrasound. I

681
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 5: couldn't have felt it. Wow behind the nipple, yeah, oh wow, question. Yeah,

682
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 5: the p was nothing. And and my surgeon actually still

683
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 5: to this day said, I said, well, what was that

684
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 5: was that? Like a little lymph no that you know,

685
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 5: triggered by the lump and he goes he said, I

686
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 5: don't know, he said, but no, it's nothing. And but

687
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 5: after I had the lump removed, it went so to me,

688
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 5: it's it was I like to think that it's my

689
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 5: my family who's passed looking out for me.

690
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: Actually I just got goosebumps.

691
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 5: Yeah that's what I mean.

692
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wow, it's crazy, like when you're here.

693
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,719
Speaker 3: It wasn't for it wasn't for the nine thing, then

694
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: you never would have found that was really working. Yeah,

695
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 3: and so when you when the doctor comes in, what

696
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: do they what do they say to you? How is

697
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: that news delivered?

698
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 5: Well, actually I got mine over the phone because he.

699
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: So GP. Yeah.

700
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 5: Anyway, but I knew a surgeon, so I hadn't really

701
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 5: made an I'd spoken to MP and he said, I'll

702
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 5: just bring you scans in and I'll have a look

703
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 5: with This is before anyone had said anything to me.

704
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 5: And and I was on the way to that appointment

705
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 5: when the doctor ray and said are you going to

706
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 5: that appointment? I said, oh, yeah, I'm on my way now,

707
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 5: thinking I'm just again being very thorough. He went, yeah,

708
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,959
Speaker 5: you need to go. It is cat threats, which wasn't great.

709
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: As I was driving as blunt as that. Yeah, yeah,

710
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: I suppose they kind of got to be right.

711
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, I I feel maybe he thought that,

712
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 5: maybe I thought it was something, but I didn't because

713
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 5: I'd made this appointment to go and see the session.

714
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: What does it feel like hearing those words?

715
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

716
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 5: It was more than I would have thought that. How

717
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 5: I reacted, Yeah, I just yeah, burst into tears. Yeah,

718
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 5: and I was in the car on my own.

719
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, the conversation with your family around the news

720
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: you got, how did that go down?

721
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 5: I rang that straight away and he said to me

722
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 5: to come. I said, look, no, like this is just

723
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 5: meeting anyway, just no bit. And then I didn't tell anyone.

724
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 5: I didn't tell anyone for ages.

725
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: Why.

726
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 5: I just didn't feel the need to. I didn't, and

727
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 5: I we didn't tell the boys. They were only quite

728
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 5: young at the time, like Coop might have been twelve,

729
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 5: I might have been fifteenth. Yere So I went in

730
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 5: for the first surgery, and then I had to go

731
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 5: back in for another one. And it was after the

732
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 5: second surgery Matt told the boys, which I hadn't consented to,

733
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 5: but he felt that they needed to know when they

734
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 5: got home that they had to be on sort of

735
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 5: best behavior.

736
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 3: And how did they respond to the news with yourself

737
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,479
Speaker 3: when you came back home?

738
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 5: Very interesting. Cooper was really frightened. He was just frightened.

739
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 5: He was just frightened. He is like, you know, you're

740
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 5: going to die? What's going on? You know? I said no, no, no,

741
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 5: do treatment, you know, but it's going to be a

742
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 5: bit of a you know, a bit of a swell

743
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 5: and Jack never said anything, and he just kind of

744
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 5: got a little angry, a little angry.

745
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: True, different reactions.

746
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: Which you at the kind of situation.

747
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 5: Just a bit inconvenient and that's its relative to the age. Yeah, yeah,

748
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 5: and that's quite normal sort of reactions.

749
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

750
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: And so there after you have that initial surgery, do

751
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: they tell you all your success right here of you know,

752
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: beating this cancer is X amount? And how much information

753
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 3: do they give you about that?

754
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 5: Well, what I learned when I had breast cancer is

755
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 5: that there's a whole lot of different types of breast cancer,

756
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 5: which I didn't know that beforehand. And there's all these

757
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 5: there's just a merry out of tests that you then

758
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 5: have to go through. You know, whether it's an estrogen positive,

759
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 5: whether it's progesteron positive and that determines the treatment. And

760
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 5: you have to check node involvement because once it sort

761
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 5: of gets to your lymph nodes, it starts traveling through body.

762
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 5: So you don't want that. And that's why I say,

763
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 5: go as as you possibly can. You don't want to

764
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 5: go into your lymph nodes. You just want to contain it.

765
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: And how long was your treatment for?

766
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 5: Ah? That's six months?

767
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: Ok?

768
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, chemo?

769
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean once you'd finish your treatment. And I mean,

770
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: how did they break the news see that we cancer

771
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: free or in remission?

772
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 5: They do, actually, and to answer your question before when

773
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 5: you start, because it's all very you see this person now,

774
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 5: and then when that's done, you see this person then

775
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 5: on you know, then you go into your oncologies and

776
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 5: they do enter a whole lot of data into it,

777
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 5: some sort of computer program and they give you some

778
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 5: sort of percentage like survival percentage, right. But I did

779
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 5: notice they always kept saying, oh, five years, hang on

780
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 5: beyond five years, you know, five years, Son's over ten now,

781
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 5: so I have to be on medication for ten years?

782
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: Oh wow?

783
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 5: Yeah? Because my cancer was estrogen fed yea.

784
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 3: And so when you have beaten cancer. Do you celebrate,

785
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: do you have a party or is it just like

786
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: we get.

787
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: On with it? You went ahead, mat.

788
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 5: No, No, I know I think you still always have

789
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 5: it there, a little bit little fear. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

790
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 5: well because you know how quickly things can change. I

791
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 5: think that's what it is. One minute you're living your life.

792
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 5: And I wasn't sick. I didn't feel on well, I

793
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 5: didn't think. And that's the irony too, that you know,

794
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 5: once you start chemo and stuff, they're making you sick. Yeah,

795
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 5: they don't actually, And that's like a real mind game

796
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 5: that happens.

797
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: Do you remember what the sickness felt like from chemo?

798
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 5: I was actually I had a lot of friends who

799
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 5: are in the medical profession and they just said, Trisha,

800
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 5: take all the drugs, take the program, drugs that they say,

801
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 5: and that will minimize it. So I didn't feel nauseous

802
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 5: so much like a lot of people. And you know,

803
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 5: half of that was one type of chemotherapy in the

804
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 5: the second half was a different kind of chemotherapy. The

805
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 5: second half one that wasn't very pleasant, that just got

806
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 5: all your joints in your body and you felt like

807
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 5: you had the flu all the time. Yeah, Achy.

808
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: I grew up with my mum losing friends to breast cancer.

809
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: So I think I love your thought process of the

810
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: fact that it was your loved ones looking out for you.

811
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 5: Yeah.

812
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 3: I think it's it's amazing that you come through the

813
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: other end and you've beaten it. It's well done.

814
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations and thank you so much for sharing that,

815
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 2: and our listeners for sure that advice to go early

816
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: will resonate with them because I.

817
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 5: Would never and again I was only doing it to

818
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 5: sort of tick the box too. Yeah. I'm done for

819
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,959
Speaker 5: another two years, be fine, So that's quite short.

820
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Trish, we always like to end the question the

821
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: show with a question. We like to end the show

822
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: on a question. And it's unique because your boys have

823
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: kind of done this a few times, but it's when

824
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 3: they have left the.

825
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: Nest again and for the last time will come.

826
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: Is there anything you would like them to remember about

827
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: the house they grew up in.

828
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I want them to remember that dinner time

829
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 5: was the time where we all came together. We sat

830
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 5: at the table and one of my favorite thing things

831
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 5: to do, and we didn't do it all the time,

832
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 5: but it was like you're high low and everyone has

833
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 5: to give a high low of their day all the

834
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 5: week it might be, and you just get two bits

835
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 5: of information you know that aren't forthcoming otherwise. Particularly boys

836
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 5: don't come out and tell you everything all the time.

837
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 5: Although I did love the car trip home from school,

838
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 5: plased to get all the gosspep because they'd be talking

839
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 5: to you. That's been so yeah, So that's well.

840
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: From the sidelines, it looks like you guys have a

841
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: lot of fun. I'm sure there's a lot of arguments

842
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: that we don't see, but that's.

843
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 5: Part of the funny, isn't it. Does everyone get on

844
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 5: all the time? That's unrealistic. I would think that would

845
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 5: be boring and eye bragang, what's going on there? Something

846
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 5: we someone's not happy in that relationship going okay?

847
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: Boys, you know, I think when you can argue and

848
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: then make fun of the argument later, we love that.

849
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: Is the best.

850
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: It's like you've completely moved on from it and someone

851
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: will say something and you'd be like, oh, just like

852
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: when you're angry before.

853
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: And just to poke the bed.

854
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: I think that shows that you're so comfortable with your

855
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: family that you know you can just about say anything

856
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: to each other.

857
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 5: Pretty much like We've often gone into do our Family

858
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 5: podcast and not talking like Matt Night a number of times. Yeah,

859
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 5: and I'm not even looking at him that it might

860
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 5: have been days. This is gonna be awkward. And then

861
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 5: after the first time went all actually it works, and

862
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 5: then like he can't help himself. He's always the one

863
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 5: that the ice. I'm the stubborn one.

864
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see that with me. Yeah, just a little bit, yeah.

865
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's can't bear it.

866
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure having the matriarch.

867
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 5: Now I have I do have gifts. I have gifts

868
00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 5: for you. The boys have now these are not available.

869
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 5: These are like special backstage podcast from Maddy.

870
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 3: John Trudition's just brought out too beautiful and although I've

871
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: got a question the color Maron Manly.

872
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 5: Oh, they go perfect for you. Perfect, It looks lovely

873
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 5: on you. Who do you support?

874
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm from Brisbane. I'm from Brisbane.

875
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: So he works for the Broncos too, he works for

876
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: the Broncos.

877
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 5: Head was and these what do you got here? Okay?

878
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 5: These are really special. So on the Family podcast some

879
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 5: time ago, we had an incident when Matt was telling

880
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 5: us about the time he had to stop through saying

881
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 5: ives and pee, but there was nowhere to pee. Here's

882
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 5: a bladder issue.

883
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 4: The man.

884
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 5: He had some cameboid boots. He thank god, in his boot,

885
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 5: so he grabbed one and he's in his car peeing

886
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 5: in his boot.

887
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: No, that is the strangest. Just get out and pee

888
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: the bush.

889
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there were kids around.

890
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Speaker 2: I don't think you money, You can't walking around the

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Speaker 2: park with your dickhout.

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Speaker 5: So I went on. I think, and there are these

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Speaker 5: things called we don't want to do that. It's a

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00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 5: portable urinal, so I thought that might be handy for

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Speaker 5: you guys, and I thought either for the kids.

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Speaker 1: I love that I get it.

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00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: I love that I get to take away from this

898
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 2: interview that the John's family got me a portable urine.

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Speaker 1: Look at that you could do other things with it.

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Speaker 1: That's that's far too big for me.

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00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 5: Well, you know, you never know how much tell you

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00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 5: one going on to at any one given moment.

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Speaker 4: That is.

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Speaker 1: Unnecessary but extremely thoughtful.

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Speaker 5: Keep it in the car.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, think this is one of the best gifts I've

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Speaker 1: ever been given.

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Speaker 3: Welcome and also, if you play thirsty, you can.

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Speaker 5: Well look cood as long as you haven't been using it.

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00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 5: It's I brought them, made sure they were in the

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Speaker 5: plastic for you, so it wasn't secondhand.

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Speaker 1: So KUPA isn't weeding this one. No, no, no, he's

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Speaker 1: got one in their dreams. That is like, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give it a go, report back, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I won't send it back to your hours with.

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Speaker 5: Don't pull too hard on the end.

918
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I might take it to magic round with me.

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Speaker 5: It did come often.

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Speaker 1: I might take it to a magic round with me

921
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Speaker 1: and whip it out in front of Cooper and see

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Speaker 1: what he says.

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Speaker 5: Ye.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me again.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for jumping on and sharing the

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Speaker 2: John's family and yourself and of course your story about

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Speaker 2: breast cancer is going to be real beneficial listeners, So

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 5: You'd like to take your own health into your own

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Speaker 5: hands for sure? The doctor says no, you're too young

931
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Speaker 5: to say yeah, but I still want to have a

932
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Speaker 5: good advice.

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Speaker 3: Sound soul, squeaky wheel like it's the oil exactly truth.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Matt.

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Speaker 3: That was delightful. I wills and we've got gifts at

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Speaker 3: the end as well.

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Speaker 1: I forgot what it was. I'm actually gonna use my

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Speaker 1: mind to drink out of divers And remember, please please take.

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Speaker 2: Trisha's advice which is really really important, and go and

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Speaker 2: get yourself checked regularly.

942
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: And not just mums but dads as well.

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Speaker 1: Early detection is key.

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Speaker 3: And if you enjoyed this episode, any episode from Two

945
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Speaker 3: Doting Dance, we would absolutely love it. You love it

946
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,880
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947
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,000
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948
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Speaker 3: episodes and upper podcasts or Spotify or wherever you get

949
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: your podcasts.

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00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 2: Yes, join us on socials Two Doting Dads, Instagram, Facebook

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Speaker 2: and TikTok.

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00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: And if there's any moms and if there's any mums

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Speaker 3: or dads out there that you would love us to interview,

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00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,479
Speaker 3: please let us know. We'll do our best to hunt

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Speaker 3: them down.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, I'd like a famous grandmother. Yeah, I'm into that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in that way.

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Speaker 3: Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country

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Speaker 3: throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community.

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Speaker 2: We pay our respects to their elders past and present

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Speaker 2: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and torrestrate Islander

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Speaker 2: peoples today