1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Bunjelung Calcottin woman from Gadigol Country. The Daily oz acknowledges 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Strait Island and nations. We pay our respects to the 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: first peoples of these countries, both past and present. 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Ready, ready, good morning, and welcome to the Daily os. 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: It's Friday, the twenty sixth of May. I'm Sam, I'm Zara. 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's key challenger, Roonda Santas has formally launched his 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: campaign to be the Republican nominee for the presidential election. 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: I am running for president of the United States to 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: lead our great American comeback. 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: So who is Roonda Santas and what does he have 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: to do to beat Trump? 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 4: Runda sanctimonious can kiss my big beautiful twenty twenty four 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 4: presidential ass We'll. 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: Let you know in the deep dive. But first, aarrah. 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: What's making headlines this morning? 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 5: A Senate committee has recommended the federal government increase its 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 5: support for male contraceptives. The committee found the responsibility of 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 5: birth control was falling on women due to a lack 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 5: of male contraceptive options. Currently, the only option for men 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 5: is to use condoms or undergo a vasectomy. They recommended 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 5: more research into the availability and development of male contraception. 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: Alleged fraudsteron Melissa Cattock has been declared dead by the 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: New South Wales Coroner. Kadog hasn't been seen since fleeing 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: her Sydney home in November twenty twenty. She was accused 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: of running a Ponzi scheme. Kadog's body has never been found, 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: though a decomposed foot match to Kadog's DNA was uncovered 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: months after her disappearance, and we've done deep dives into 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: both the Kadog story and why there isn't a male contraceptive. 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: There are links to both of those in today's show notes. 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 5: Woolworths has bought online grocery delivery platform milk Run just 34 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 5: a month after it collapsed. Bullwards bought milk Run's name 35 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 5: and customer list and has renamed their pre existing Metro 36 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 5: sixty app to milk Run. The rebrand has already gone 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 5: live in five hundred suburbs across Australia. 38 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: And today's good news. The Vivid Arts and Light Show 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: will begin here in Sydney today. Vivid will light up 40 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: Sydney landmarks such as the Opera House and a Armor 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: Ridge in an array of colors and patterns, and it'll 42 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 2: run until the seventeenth of June. Roonda Santis has officially 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: launched his bid to be the Republican candidate for president 44 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: at the twenty twenty four election. The forty four year 45 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: old is seen as the strongest Republican challenger to former 46 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: President Donald Trump. 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 5: I'd really like to understand that sentence. You do need 48 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 5: to understand who Ronda Santis is. And I feel like 49 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 5: we've already said Rhonda Santis like nine times. 50 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: But who is he? So you might have come across 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: him in the news as the governor of Florida, and 52 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: that's the position he currently holds. He represents the Republican Party. 53 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 5: In that position, he does a lot of media attention, 54 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 5: like more so, i'd say than many other governors in 55 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 5: the US. 56 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's quite contra. 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 5: And please explain for out listeners what contra. 58 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: Means, controlls, how the cool kids say controversial, And I'll 59 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: tell you why he's controversial. But first, I think it's 60 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 2: important to get a sense of his background. So he's 61 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: a Navy veteran. He served in Iraq, and he represented 62 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: northeastern Florida in the US House of Representatives from twenty thirteen. 63 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: But his political career really amped up in twenty eighteen 64 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: when he ran for governor of Florida with then President 65 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's full support. 66 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 4: He's tough, he's smart, and he loves Florida and he 67 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 4: loves our country. 68 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: And he's going to be your next governor, Ron DeSantis. 69 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: Roon de Santis was victorious in his campaign for governor, 70 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: thank you very much, and he's been the governor since 71 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. 72 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 5: Ron DeSantis is going into this Republican primary race with 73 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 5: already quite a strong profile. A lot of Americans ready 74 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 5: know him. I mean a lot of people around the 75 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 5: world already know him. What are they know him for. 76 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: Well, there's a few key areas of policy that DeSantis 77 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: is known for. Firstly, he's responsible for expanding gun rights 78 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: in Florida. 79 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: The governor signed permitless carry into law, which allows people 80 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 4: to carry concealed weapons without a license. 81 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ronda Santis remains one of the Republicans in the 82 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: country that believes the answer to gun violence is more guns. 83 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: And Desantras often speaks about the constitutional Second Amendment right 84 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: to bear arms. 85 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: With all due respect to these leftists, they just want 86 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: to come after your Second Amendment rights. Let's just be honest, 87 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 3: that's what they want to do. 88 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: DeSantis is also pushed to limit abortions in the state 89 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: of Florida. 90 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: We are here today to defend those who can't defend themselves. 91 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: Overnight, Florida Governor Ron de Santras signing a bill that 92 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: would ban most abortions after six weeks. 93 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: That law is pending Supreme Court approval, so we'll wait 94 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: to see what happens with that. But in his time 95 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: as governor, he's also enforced stricter policies on illegal immigration. 96 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: Florida Governor Rhand De Santis is push some of the 97 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 2: toughest immigration legislation in over a decade. DeSantis also signs 98 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: legislation called the Parental Rights in Education Bill. 99 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 5: Ritics call it the Don't Say Gay Bills. 100 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: Supporters say it gets parents more control over what their 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: child is being taught. Those opposed say it hurts LGBTQ 102 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: students and families. 103 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 5: We all knew that he was going to be running 104 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 5: for the Republican nomination. It was definitely no secrets, really 105 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 5: badly kept secret. I guess what we didn't know was 106 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 5: how he was going to launch his campaign. These mean 107 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 5: American presidential campaigns are unlike anything we know here in Australia. 108 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 5: There you know rallies and this and that. But Desants 109 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 5: chose a fairly unorthodox route to launch his campaign. He 110 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 5: decided to do what's called a Twitter spaces room. I 111 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 5: don't even know what that means on Twitter with Elon Musk, 112 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 5: who of course is the now owner of Twitter. But 113 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 5: it was delayed due to some technical issues. 114 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: Man, I think we melted the internet there. Yeah, it 115 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: was definitely a different way to launch a campaign. And 116 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 2: once they did get at working and unmelted the internet, 117 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: Elon Musk was certainly celebrating the use of his new toy, 118 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: his newly acquired platform. 119 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: There's really never been a mechnusm before where someone could 120 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: address the nation or anyone who wanted to listen to 121 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: him could from anywhere in the world. 122 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 5: But to go to the essence of this policy campaign, 123 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 5: what was the messaging from desantas well? 124 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: A big message in the launch was that the US 125 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: is going in the wrong direction under the Democrats and 126 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: current President Joe Biden. He said that the southern border 127 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 2: had collapsed, that drugs are pouring into the country, and 128 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: that cities are being hollowed out by crime. 129 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: Our president, well, he lacks vigor, wounders in the face 130 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: of our nation's challenges, and fakes his cues from the 131 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: woke mob. I don't think it asked to be this way. 132 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 5: I've had Nina, our producer, in my ears this whole time, 133 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 5: saying that I can't bring in Trump yet before I've 134 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 5: explained who Desantas is. But now that we've been explained, 135 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 5: who Desantas is, his biggest opponent going into this is 136 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 5: Donald Trump. They are both vying for the Republican nomination 137 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 5: and just to step that process out, whoever wins the 138 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 5: nomination will then face whoever the Democrats, likely Joe Biden, 139 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 5: choose to be their nominee. So what is Trump, who 140 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 5: for all intents and purposes, is now an opponent of Dessantas, 141 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 5: actually saying about his fellow Republican. 142 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: Well, Trump's known for very measured responses, very calm ways 143 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: of communicating. First of all, he took the opportunity to 144 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: criticize the tech issues with Twitter. 145 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 5: A platform he is not on. 146 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: He's not on, but more than that, he actually has 147 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: a rival social media platform, truth Social. He was prolific 148 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: on truth Social. Yesterday he posted things like, Wow, the 149 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: distincts Twitter launch is a disaster. 150 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 5: Donald Trump saund astrayly, I. 151 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: Don't know, it's terrible. He said his whole campaign will 152 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: be a disaster. He also posted memes of a rocket 153 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: failing to launch, and that would have been particularly sensitive 154 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: to Elon Musk, who actually has had a rocket that 155 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: failed to launch. And remember how I said. Trump gave 156 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: DeSantis his support for his twenty eighteen campaign to be governor. Well. 157 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: Trump also released this video. 158 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: Ron DeSantis was struggling big time in his primary race 159 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 4: for governor of Florida. Poles revealed DeSantis was failing so 160 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: bad he was losing by a staggering seventeen points. Then 161 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: DeSantis was saved by the endorsement of President Trump. Trump's 162 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 4: support was so powerful. Just days after the endorsement, DeSantis 163 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: took a commanding lead that propelled him to being elected governor. 164 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: I'd like to thank our president for standing by me. 165 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: When it wasn't necessarily the smart thing to do. 166 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: You're welcome, Ron. Unfortunately, instead of being grateful, DeSantis is 167 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 4: now attacking the very man who saved his career. Isn't 168 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: it time DeSantis remembers how he got to where he is? 169 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: Truth is, There's only one person who can make America 170 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 4: great again. 171 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approved this message. 172 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 5: Nothing if not effective advertising. Clearly, the race is now 173 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 5: on between Trump and Dessantas. How will the winner of 174 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 5: this Republican battle be crowned? 175 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: Well, it's almost going to feel a little bit like 176 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: a reality television contest. The Republican Party needs to nominate 177 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: just one candidate to represent them at the twenty twenty 178 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 2: four president to the demosrat exactly, and Trump and DeSantis 179 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: are the front runners. There are some people who have 180 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: thrown their hats in the ring as well, but those 181 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: two seem to be that the two horses out front. 182 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: To win the title of America's next Republican presidential nominee, 183 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: they need to win primary votes and caucuses, which will 184 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: generally be voted on by members of the Republican Party, 185 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: and these are expected to begin in January, with the 186 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: winning candidate to be decided sometime in the middle of 187 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Now, in the meantime, we are going 188 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,359 Speaker 2: to hear a whole lot more from both of these candidates. 189 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 5: All Right, I want to ask you something. I'm going 190 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 5: to hold you to it. Okay, who is going to 191 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 5: win the Republican nomination? 192 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: Donald Trump will win the Republican nomination. I'm looking forward 193 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: to that being played back when he doesn't. I think 194 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: he's got enough in the tank, and I think he 195 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: seems to have shrugged off any sort of criminal convictions, 196 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: civil convictions, whatever's thrown at him, and I think his 197 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: supporter base is strong enough to get him over. 198 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 5: I mean, DeSantis's supporter base is very. 199 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: Strong as well, though incredibly strong. But what we've seen 200 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: in the last couple of months is a slight slump 201 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: in Desantas's popularity, and that's a trend that I think 202 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: could continue as Donald Trump gets more involved. 203 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 5: Look forward to holding this against you in the future. 204 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: If this episode has got you in the mood for 205 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 5: more US politics, there are links in the show notes 206 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 5: to episodes that we've done covering Trump's campaign and some 207 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 5: of the legal challenges that he is facing. At the 208 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 5: moment because there are a couple going at the same time. 209 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 5: Thanks so much for listening, and have a brilliant weekend.