WEBVTT - The Cancellation of Chloe Szep 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.559 This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say exactly. 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:05.000 What you're thinking. 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:07.480 Our names are Amy Kate and Sophie Torba. 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:09.480 We're identical triplets, so. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:13.399 We often don't have identical opinions, so sometimes things can 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:19.680 get heated. Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment. 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:20.560 And issues facing with it. 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:23.840 That is so fat Thank. 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.920 You, welcome back to Outspoken. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:29.319 Now. It is a very special day today. It is 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.600 Daffodil Day, and this is a day that's very close 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.600 to our hearts because we did lose our beautiful papa 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:39.519 to cancer in twenty nineteen. So it's very important for 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.159 everyone to get behind the course today because there's just 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:44.560 so many people living with cancer in their lives. 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:44.839 I know. 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.040 Daffidil Day has always been really special to us. I 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.839 always remember been primary school going and buying the Daffodil 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.920 Day bear because our year five teacher had cancer, so 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:54.760 it was a big day at our school. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:56.760 Yeah, and we were so honored to be asked by 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.880 the Cancer Cancel to be ambassadors for Daffidil Day this year, 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.160 so we jumped at the chance to get involved and 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.600 promote such a special day. It was quite funny. We 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:06.400 had to get our mum to take a photo of 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.080 us with some daffodils on the weekend and it ended 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.280 up being quite hilarious. We got tootored out by a 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.720 lot of cars and we felt like our mum was 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.679 being a bit of a stage mum Chris Jenner with 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:17.760 a big camera out, but it was It's all for 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:19.560 a good course, So thank you mum for taking that 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:20.360 photo of us. 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:22.200 So if you can, can you please donate to the 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.280 Daffodil Day Appeal. All donations and funds raised through the 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.360 sale of daffodils and merchandise will directly fund cancer research 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.640 projects across Australia, So anything you can, please just put 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.720 in a dollar, do what you can to help this 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.000 wonderful cause I'm going to be buying one of the bears. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:38.080 They're so gorgeous. 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.520 Yeah, you can donate at www dot Daffidil Day dot 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.839 com dot au. Will have links in our show notes 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:44.240 as well. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:48.120 Now posted on my Instagram about vaccines and pregnancy this morning, 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.520 and a number of Instagram. 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:51.760 Influencers fired right back. 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.320 For God's sake, don't take your health advice from Instagram influencers. 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.960 Chloe Zepp has officially been canceled. The twenty two year 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.320 old wellness Warrior has lost twenty two thousand followers this 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:07.040 month after sharing alarming anti VAX's views across her social 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:11.240 media platforms. Just this week, her partner Mitchell Orville likened 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.720 hotel quarantine to prison and Chloe said her critics have 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.919 an illness worse than any virus. A new trend is 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.680 quickly growing momentum on TikTok, showing jen z as unfollowing 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:25.400 Chloe and also throwing out their ZEP activewear. Now, so 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.280 before we get into the topic, can you give us 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.280 a little overview on who Chloe Zepp is well. Chloe 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.520 Zepp is quickly becoming one of Australia's most talked about 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:37.880 wellness influencers. She runs a string of businesses, including fitness 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.359 label ZEP and wellness platform well Web. Now. We were 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.079 first introduced to a fifteen year old Chloe back in 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.600 twenty fourteen when she appeared in her Best Friend at 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.760 Shiny Grimman's blogs, and it was her relationship with fellow 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.639 influencer Mitchell Orvil which quickly became the focus of her 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:58.360 YouTube channel. So very soon into their relationship, she moved 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.240 from Brisbane to Melbourne to live with Mitch and his family, 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.519 And for those who don't know, Mitchell grew his online 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:08.919 following through his pranks channel, which was called Angry Dad. Nowadays, 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.120 the pair share a YouTube channel together called Chloe and Mitch, 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.760 where they document their daily life. But if we rewind 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.120 to only a year ago, Chloe and Mitch were in 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.200 a very different position. They were somewhat of a golden 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.080 couple of YouTube. They were attracting a lot of praise 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:27.480 and attention online for being so open about their struggles 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.000 and traumas, and followers really loved how transparent Chloe and 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.520 Mitch were about their relationship struggles. They even documented their 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.280 first breakup and Mitch moving out of the house, and 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.800 they've also spoken so candidly about their miscarriage at the 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:44.360 start of twenty twenty and also their pregnancy journey with Artie. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.240 And Mitch also garnered a lot of praise and admiration 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.480 for opening up about his drug addiction and also sharing 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.480 his recovery along the way. And I feel like the 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.000 reason we are so disheartened by what is going on 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.800 at the moment is we have been so invested in 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:00.800 their story, and I feel like we been rooting for 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.280 them along the way. So I think that's why we're 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.920 all feeling a little bit blindsided by what's been going 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.560 on the past couple of months now. Kate, for those 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.360 who haven't listened to previous episodes, which we will link 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:12.960 in the show notes, can you give us a bit 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:16.120 of a rundown of where this canceling is coming from. 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:16.880 I feel like this. 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.920 Cancelation has been coming for a while now. So Chloe 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:23.279 has been caught out liking anti VAX's posts. One of 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.680 the posts included when a Gold Coast hairdresser posted that 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:30.239 she was going to ban vaccinated people from entering her salon. 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.279 Chloe has also supported lockdown protests on her Instagram story. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.839 She's been caught out not wearing a mask in public 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.040 despite them being mandatory in the Gold Coast, and Mitch 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.080 has also been caught out congregating in large groups at 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.479 the beach when they're meant to be social distancing. And 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.360 Chloe has also said on her Instagram story that people 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.520 that criticize her for her anti science views have an 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.360 illness worse than any virus going around now. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.120 When it comes to cancelation, I feel like the numbers 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.960 speak for themselves. Amy, can you talk us through where 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:04.000 Chloe's current follower count stands well. Chloe is rapidly losing 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.960 followers by the day. Over the past thirty days, she's 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.880 lost twenty two thousand, five hundred and thirty followers and 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:13.120 that's three point five percent of her following. So currently 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.919 Chloe still has six hundred and fifty seven thousand followers. 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:20.040 Mitch has lost five thousand, seven hundred and sixty followers 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.080 in the last thirty days and he currently has a 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.919 following of two hundred and eighty seven thousand, and in 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.560 the last thirty days, he's lost one point nine six 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.720 percent of his following. As for Chloe and Mitch's family 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.720 YouTube channel, they have lost two thousand subscribers in the 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.120 last thirty days, with their subscribe account currently sitting at 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.800 one hundred and forty two thousand and When you take 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.800 a look at Chloe's active where brand account, zep it 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.120 has lost two eight hundred and twenty thousand followers in 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.240 the past thirty days, which is a huge hit for 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:49.880 a business Instagram account. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.880 I do feel like while these numbers sound big, it's 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.240 not really When you do put into consideration the percentage 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.159 of their following that they have lost. I really would 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.840 like to urge any one who is still following Mitch 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.520 and Chloe that disagrees with their stance to unfollow them, 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.040 because this is the only way we're going to take 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:09.760 that power away from them. 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:11.840 It's so true, and I think that's what people are 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.200 realizing that people power does work. So not only is 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.840 Chloe losing thousands of followers by the day, but her 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.640 active where brand ZEP is also taking a big hit. 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.719 There is a new TikTok trend where jen zets are 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.640 creating videos of themselves unfollowing Chloe or throwing away their 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.680 ZEP active where in some videos the women are drawing 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.440 over the ZEP branding or they're threatening to burn the 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.719 clothes in an attempt to boycott the brand totally. It 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.000 seems this trend was actually spurred on though, by a 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.520 TikTok Chloe created herself. Now, Kate, what was this TikTok? 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:43.039 Yeah? 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.880 So on Saturday, Chloe shared a video to TikTok with 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.720 the caption how to continue on your day even if 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.359 you don't agree with something Now. In the video, she 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.840 shows herself outside her Gold Coast mansion and she marches 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.520 into the shop with her arms flailing and looks at 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.960 the camera and then marches out swinging her arms again. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.440 So many followers have said that the video was the 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:07.160 final straw and has insulted people genuinely concerned about public health. 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.400 What do you guys think this type of video does 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.240 for Chloe's Active where brand? Obviously we're seeing that people 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.480 are beginning to destroy their zet merch, But do you 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.160 guys think this will have a lasting effect on her brand? 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.080 I think it will because I've seen people also filming 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.920 videos where they're actually unsubscribing from her mailing list. I 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.920 just don't understand why she felt the need to post 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.360 this TikTok at all. It's like all of the Orville family, 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.000 they keep jumping on social media. I feel like, what 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.040 do they expect the outcome is going to be? Personally, 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.080 I would be humiliated to walk around with any ZEP 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:41.800 active where on. Even if I was going for a 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:43.480 walk down the road, I wouldn't want to be seen 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.240 in it because these days, what you wear does really 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.760 reflect your views. So if I was walking around in 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:50.520 that sort of get up, I would assume people would 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.680 think I was an anti vaxer. I actually have seen 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.240 videos on TikTok as well where people have had their 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.120 zet parcels arrive and they just kick it along the ground. 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.240 So these are obviously people who who are big fans 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.360 of Chloe Zep, I mean so much so that they've 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.880 bought her active where within the last couple of weeks 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.200 and they've turned Yeah, I know a lot of people 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.880 complaining that you couldn't actually return the gear. 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.480 Because they've obviously placed an order and then found out 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:17.640 about her anti lockdown, anti vax stance. It is interesting though, 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.080 because in the last couple of days, Chloe has actually 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.080 launched a new drop of her Zep active wear, so 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.760 she's introduced these new flared pants and I had to 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:28.560 look at the website because normally her gear sells out 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.240 within minutes. I remember her bike shorts were just such 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.720 a hot item. However, now a couple of days later, 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.920 she still has white and black pants both still in stock. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.880 I think the thing that's so unfortunate for her is 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.760 that it's named after her last name, of course, being Zep, 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.320 and I don't think too many young women are going 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.840 to want to be a walking billboard for her. I 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.959 think that at the moment, so many young Australian women 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.120 are so passionate about vaccinations and about getting out of 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.000 this situation. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.000 Yeah, so if you so much so that I saw 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.280 Tarllie Smyth actually posted a photo of herself wearing a 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.600 brand that was called Vaxed and she was saying, I'm 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:06.600 proud to wear this? 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:11.160 Is that coming off stacks? Is that well? This good 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:11.760 brand alignment? 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.240 Do you guys think that Chloe even considered the launch 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.440 of her active wearline in terms of putting that video 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.400 up and what bad publicity it was. 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.000 I think it's a case. 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.000 Similar to what we've talked about with Sarah's Day, that 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.240 they surround themselves with yes people and it seems like 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.720 a lot of people in their group and their family 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.840 all believe the same thing. So it's become a bit 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.760 of an echo chamber. So I honestly think that they 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.920 are quite removed from reality about what everyday Australians are 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.960 thinking and sort of seeing only things discussed online that 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.880 they believe. You know, they follow certain hashtags and certain 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.000 groups that they probably think, oh, people are going to 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.640 agree with us. Do you think as well, that they thought, 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.439 Oh well, bad publicity is also good publicity in a 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.040 way if everyone's talking about you, Because even we saw 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.040 with Sarah's Day's active wear line with White Fox Boutique 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.200 that still continued to sell out despite all the controversy 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.080 she had with that certain video clip. I do like 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.960 your theory, but unfortunately, I don't even think that that 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.440 has crossed their mind. I think that, as Kate said, 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.080 they are surrounded by a bunch of yes people. I'm 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:13.880 sure all the people that gather with them in the 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.120 morning at the beach are properly cheering them on, saying 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.040 this is a great idea, But I don't think they're 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.480 the people they should be taking advice from. So let's 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:22.880 move on to the next controversy because this week has 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.960 been a big week for Chloe and Mitch. So on Sunday, 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.560 Mitch and Chloe shared a vlog to their joint YouTube channel, 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.400 which has caused, as I said, more controversy. So the video, 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:37.080 called Family Life and Deep Talks, has received over ninety 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:40.880 thousand views. Now it's also received a lot of dislikes. 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.839 I haven't actually seen this many dislikes on a YouTube video. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:44.080 For a while. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.120 So it's had three point one thousand dislikes and two 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:52.439 point four thousand likes since the time of recording this episode. Now, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.240 at the start of the video, Mitch revealed his sister 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:59.120 Hannah is struggling in hotel quarantine. So Hannah Orville really 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.559 is an influencer in her own right. She has two 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.360 hundred and seventy nine thousand followers and she is currently 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:09.360 in hotel quarantine after traveling to Melbourne. Now, Hannah made 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.880 the permanent move to the Gold Coast from her hometown 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:16.280 of Melbourne in early July. So last year, Mitch's parents 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.240 relocated to the Gold Coast during the Melbourne lockdown, and 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.960 Hannah was also able to escape the Melbourne lockdown last 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.400 year as she was dating AFL player Cameron Zaha, so 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.040 she was able to travel to Queensland and join the 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.640 AFL bubble. So in this YouTube video, Mitch referred to 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:35.559 hotel quarantine as hotel prison, and he said that Hannah 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.160 didn't have a balcony nor access to fresh air for 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.080 two weeks. He also revealed Hannah has been suffering from 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.200 an eating disorder for the last six months and has 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.320 gotten to the point where it's been very scary for 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.640 the family. Now, Mitch explained, Hannah received a call from 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.680 the Public Health Department checking in on her, and she 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.480 confided with this individual that she was struggling, not being 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.840 able to exercise, and apparently the health worker said to 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.360 her to eat less. Now, Mitch went on to slam 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.200 Australia's healthcare system, and we'll throw to a clip of 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:04.880 what he said. 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:11.720 Currently, my sister is doing a hotel prison. In fourteen days. 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.960 She landed one of the hotels with no balcony, no 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.559 fresh air, can't even open a window. Two weeks anyway, 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.559 not the point. Hannah has been suffering from an eating 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.760 disorder for the good part of the last six months, 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.240 to the point where it got so scary that like 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.280 there was a lot like I don't even need to 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.560 go into the details about it anyway, long story shot, 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:36.360 very scary. Anyway, how is this? She faced timing, bawling 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.120 her eyes out, and I answered, and I was like, 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.280 how are you doing? She's like, oh, not that good? 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.160 I said, why? She said, I just got a call 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.600 from the Public Health Department. So the people that call 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:53.320 in on people in so they've called her to check 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.360 in on her and see how her mental health is 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.680 doing and she said it wall clearly due to a 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:03.760 fresh air can find space eating disorder. I'm struggling. My 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.760 mental's not great. You know, I'm doing the best that 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.000 I could, but you know, not being able to exercise 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:09.800 and stuff like that to the best of my ability 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:16.040 is playing with my mental His advice was eat less. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:22.280 If you can't exercise, eat less. She's got an eating disorder. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.000 This is where we're at, hey, this is where we're 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:33.160 at as a society. It's all about protecting our health. Anyway, 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.240 I'm exhausted from talking about it. I think everyone's very 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.400 clear on my eyes down. So yeah, now I'm going 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.720 to go do some shopping and take a little bundle 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:43.360 of stuff over to Hanning because clearly she's going to 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.440 need the extra hand. Thanks to the fucking public Health 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:49.000 Department doing the fucking miraculous, wonderful job of encouraging Aaron 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.439 checking in on her mental health. Thanks for that, mate, 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.320 Leave that job to me, fucking dipshit. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.360 What I've noticed in a lot of Mitch's responses over 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.320 the past couple of weeks is a very aggressive home 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.360 we haven't really heard before. There's a lot of anger 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.960 being directed there in that video. It's almost kind of 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.920 scary to watch. The thing is, I can understand in 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.439 a way where he's coming from, because it was very 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.840 irresponsible advice that was given to his sister Hannah, And 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.960 I think in that instance, he was being quite defensive 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.760 because he really cares about her health. And a lot 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:22.640 of people have come out and said that they actually 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.680 didn't have an issue with what Mitch said there, but 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.440 also a lot of people have come out and said 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.200 that they do have an issue. Do you guys think 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:28.840 he went too far? 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:29.280 Yeah? 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:29.560 Amy. 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.480 The thing is, I think everyone understands that it's very 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.040 sad that Hannah is suffering with an eating disorder, and 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.400 of course the advice that that healthcare worker allegedly provided 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:42.080 was unacceptable, but it isn't acceptable. 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.000 To slam the whole system. 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:47.120 The healthcare system has been working so incredibly hard. Healthcare 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.320 workers have been putting their lives on the line to 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:53.040 help Australians in this unprecedented time, and I think it 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.440 was very tone death of Mitch to call the whole 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.080 system out. I mean, I can see why healthcare workers 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.240 would be extreme offended by that. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.840 Behavior, and while I also sympathize with what Hannah's going through. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.280 I think we also have to point out that she 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.640 did choose to travel knowing that there would be the 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.840 chance she would be placed in hotel quarantine. That's what 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:13.680 I didn't really understand either. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:15.920 Yeah. Well, I did see this comment on Chloe and 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.840 Mitch's YouTube video and could not agree more with it. 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.360 So the comment said, I find it quite ironic that 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.000 you are having a go at the worker publicly because 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.880 he gave advice on a subject he wasn't educated on, 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.200 when that's exactly what you and Chloe are doing. That's 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.600 why we are so annoyed with you. You are uneducated 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.640 on health and public safety matters, so please stop spreading 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.920 anti lockdown and anti vax messages. What did you guys 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:40.800 think about that comment? 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.480 I think they're spot on. I found Mitch's stance regarding 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:47.440 the healthcare workers apparent comments pretty hypocritical, considering he and 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:51.120 Chloe used their platforms to push things like water detops 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:55.360 and juice cleanses, as well as their emphasis on excessive exercise. 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.080 Yeah. I think that's what everyone is so frustrated about. 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.000 This complete hypocrisy, and it seems like only once it 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:04.600 really personally affects them that they arc up and get 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.360 really aggressive. So I did not wish COVID on anyone, 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.080 but it would be very interesting to see if their 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.400 stance completely changed if someone in their family was affected. 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:12.840 By the pandemic. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.800 Well later in the video, Chloe and Mitch also cause 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:19.560 more controversy by openly not wearing masks while out shopping. 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:24.120 So Mitch filmed Chloe's shopping in Kmart unmasked and awkwardly, 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.920 everyone in the background is wearing a mask. So masks 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.080 are currently mandatory in indoor areas on the Gold Coast, 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.640 and we do not believe Chloe or Mitch a medically 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:34.400 exempt from. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:35.080 Wearing a mask. 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.480 I think what was even more disturbing in his video, 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.520 apart from the non mask wearing, was the fact that 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:45.880 they showed their child's pooh and the belief that I fell. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.080 I was like, what is going on? I was eating 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.360 my dinner watching the Yeah, not even I mean, what 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.680 about poor Artie when he grows up and he knows 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.560 poo's whoo in the toilet? I mean, I totally understand 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.640 as a parent being proud of the first time your 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:00.080 child goes to the toilet, but I do so I 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.840 think it's a private matter that you don't share with 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:03.320 the rest. 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:03.640 Of the world. 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.880 It's a prime example of them sharing way too much 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:07.560 when they should just shut up sometimes. 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.080 And I do think Artie. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.639 Is a big reason why people continue following Chloe and 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.359 Mitch's absolutely adorable and I think that people love to 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.160 see them as parents. But I mean, it's just gone 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.800 too far at the moment to continue supporting them. 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:21.280 So it's not only. 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.920 On TikTok that Chloe is receiving backclass. 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:25.440 She's also been. 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:29.840 Called out on Instagram by Ozzie Influencer's Opinion. Now this 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:33.000 page went on a five month hiatus, but it's back 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:38.560 to call out Antifax's influencers spreading misinformation. So Ozsie Influencer's 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.800 Opinion called out Chloe for losing followers and for following 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:46.760 questionable hashtags, including hashtag truth seekers. Now, if you're not 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.639 familiar with this hashtag, it is an anti vaxxer and 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.120 COVID conspiracy theory hashtag. 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:53.760 Chloe was also. 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:57.760 Found to be following a hashtag called hashtag spaces fake. 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.240 Is it just me? Oh, I do not follow any 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.919 hashtags I don't understand as a huge influencer why you 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.440 would actually follow these controversial hashtags. 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.080 I mean, I didn't know you actually could follow hashtags, 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.399 would be honest. Now, a page that Chloe is also 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.520 following is called seek the Truth and this is a 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:19.280 anti vax and COVID conspiracy theory page and interestingly, Ozzie 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.919 Influencer Opinions shared the m Davies and Tammy Hembroke are 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:24.120 both following the page. 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.080 Now, since Tammy has been. 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.040 Called out for following this page, she did share in 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.879 her YouTube comments that she is not anti vax and 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.280 that she is actually booked in to get her vaccine, 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.720 so that is great to hear, and since they were 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.359 called out, both of them have unfollowed the page. 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.960 I'm absolutely living for the fact that Ozzie Influencer Opinions 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:44.760 is back. I feel like it's feeling a bit of 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:46.360 a void that Celebrity. 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:46.879 Spellcheck last if. 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.120 I was thinking that, can you imagine if celeb spell 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.120 check was around right now, how much trouble they would 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.840