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Speaker 1: Entertainment, put on your dance and shit, don't give me

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Speaker 1: your best shot. That's Emma Gleesie, editor at The Daily

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Speaker 1: Os is here. It can't be all about Kate Middleton.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and that goes to the very heart of the

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Speaker 2: conversation I want to have with you today, Megan Michael,

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Speaker 2: she's back with an Instagram brand, American Riviera Orchid.

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Speaker 3: What the hell is that? Unclear, but she's got an

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Speaker 3: operation page.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's Kate Middleton's abdominal operation.

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Speaker 3: It's the code name. So Meghan's back.

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Speaker 2: She's launched an Instagram It came with this sixteen second video.

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Speaker 2: It's obviously a lifestyle brand. So we've got this vision

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Speaker 2: of Meghan in this kind of grainy, warm kitchen mixing something.

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Speaker 3: It's very lovely.

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Speaker 2: It's very sort of retro homemaker, domestic goddess. So American

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Speaker 2: Riviera Orchid is what this brand is called. We think

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Speaker 2: that from the trademark information around it, that she's going

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Speaker 2: to be selling you know, table cloths and crockery and

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Speaker 2: jams and stuff like that sort of goop Gwyneth Paltrow vibes,

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Speaker 2: but in the kitchen without the candle yep.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and without the sort of weirdo genital stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but the because they haven't been the big money making

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Speaker 4: force that they wanted to be. I know, Harry's book

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Speaker 4: did very well, but their Netflix deal and their Spotify deal,

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Speaker 4: a lot of stuff has fallen over for.

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Speaker 2: Them, exactly, and they've kind of fallen out of the

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Speaker 2: conversation a little bit in the last of six to

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Speaker 2: twelve months, which, you know, critics would say that they

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Speaker 2: probably have hated that. But people are really talking about

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Speaker 2: the timing of this announcement obviously. You know, a lot

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Speaker 2: has been discussed about Kate Middleton in recent weeks, and

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Speaker 2: so there's been sort of a two part argument here

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Speaker 2: that some people are saying that Megan's launched this lifestyle

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Speaker 2: brand to sort of be like, look at me.

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Speaker 3: There's too much attention on the Royals at the moment,

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Speaker 3: and we want a piece of that pie.

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Speaker 2: And then other people are saying, maybe it's not that sinister,

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Speaker 2: Maybe she's trying to help Kate out, maybe she's concerned

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Speaker 2: about her. There are reports that she reached out to

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Speaker 2: Kate several times and that she's worried about the sort

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Speaker 2: of photoshop frenzy in the fallout of that, because.

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Speaker 3: You know, Meghan knows what it feels like. I suppose

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Speaker 3: to be on.

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Speaker 1: They were friends at one stage, weren't they.

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Speaker 4: Who would know? Who would know?

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Speaker 3: We don't really know a lot. It's been very frosty.

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Speaker 2: What we learned from the Netflix documentary was that when

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Speaker 2: Meghan and Kate met each other, it was more formal

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Speaker 2: than Meghan was expecting that. She sort of was thinking

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Speaker 2: she was meeting her partner's family, but then it ended

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Speaker 2: up being very much like, you know, you're meeting potential

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Speaker 2: future colleagues rather than friends and family.

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Speaker 1: English versus America.

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Speaker 4: English are always celebrity and celebrity versus royalty.

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Speaker 3: They're two very, very different.

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Speaker 4: And I've noticed that in recent weeks there's a lot

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Speaker 4: more sympathy for Harry and Meghan and the decision that

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Speaker 4: Harry made to take his family out of this, because

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Speaker 4: it's looking like this might be a toxic family situation

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Speaker 4: that's going on with Kate and Will, and that maybe

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Speaker 4: Harry did the right thing by bailing.

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Speaker 2: And what's funny is they've kind of how the British

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Speaker 2: press have treated Kate the last few weeks has really

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Speaker 2: proven Harry and Meghan's point, which all along was that

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Speaker 2: they were kind of escapegoats to distract from whatever Will

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Speaker 2: and Kate might have been going through. That they were

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Speaker 2: sort of their pr team would have to deal with

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Speaker 2: messes that they accused Kate and Will's team of planting

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Speaker 2: in the media. So years ago there were these kind

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Speaker 2: of rumors that maybe Will was having an affair, and

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Speaker 2: around that time is when the hate really ramped up

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Speaker 2: for Meghan and that they had believed that that came

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Speaker 2: from inside the in Inverted Commas firm as they call it.

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Speaker 3: And now that Harry and Meghan's.

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Speaker 4: It was as if the Sun newspaper, for example, said

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Speaker 4: well we've got this story on you. William and his

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Speaker 4: team said well, don't run that story, We'll give you

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Speaker 4: this one instead.

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Speaker 2: Exactly that it's all very calculated, and now that Harry

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Speaker 2: and Meghan are not there in London to sort of

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Speaker 2: be that scapegoat, that now we are seeing all of

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Speaker 2: this criticism and bad treatment of Kate and that maybe,

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Speaker 2: you know, all along, Harry and Meghan were right.

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Speaker 3: You know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Many years ago I was at a party and I

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Speaker 1: might have had a few drinks and I said something

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Speaker 1: insulting to my wife and my wife's friend, VICKI said, well,

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Speaker 1: Brendan Jones, what have you got to say for yourself?

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Speaker 1: And at that moment when I was about to say something,

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Speaker 1: my best mate Scott, Vicky's husband, decided to do a

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Speaker 1: nudie run through the party and someone said that man

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Speaker 1: is naked, and I said, thank you, scamp, well done.

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Speaker 1: Nothing to see.

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Speaker 3: That man was Megan Markle.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: Everything is sold by a nudie run. As we always say.

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Speaker 1: Thank you em.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you next week.