1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Now, as we have obviously been discussing the situation, we 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: know the KAC Commissioner is considering whether he should inquire 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: into the circumstances of the investigation and arrest of Zach Roff. 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: He issued that statement yesterday, saying that I am aware 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: of previous statements by this office relating to the iqaq's 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: involvement in the anti police investigation and ultimate arrest of 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: mister Rolf. He went on to say, I'm not aware 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: of any investigative steps taken by the office of the 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: IKAK between the fifteenth of November twenty nineteen and my 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: commencement on the sixth of July twenty twenty one. Given 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: the prosecution was already well underway when I started, I 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: did not consider it appropriate to conduct inquiries at that time. Now, 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: it follows the Chief Minister's interview on the show yesterday, 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: which the Opposition leader Leofanocchiairo says raised more questions about 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: the appearance of political interference in the days following the 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: un Demuse shooting, after he said that he'd held multiple 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: meetings with police before charges were laid. Now joining me 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: in the studio is the opposition leader Leah Fanocchiarro. 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Leah, Good morning Katie, and to 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: your listeners. 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: Now, Leah Firsley, we know that the eykak he is 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: looking at whether he should inquire into the circumstances of 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: the investigation and arrest of zach Rolf. He issued that 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: statement yesterday saying, while I appreciate it is public interest 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: or there is public interest in the matter, I'll not 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: be rushed to the side whether or not I will investigate. 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: Is this enough? 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: Well, do you still want to see a full independent inquiry? 29 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: No, we want to see a full independent inquiry for 30 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: a number of reasons. We think the commissioner or commissioners 31 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: should be completely removed from the Northern Territory from interstate. 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: We think the administrative team that would support any inquiry 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: needs to be completely impartial, and so we'd like to 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: see that take place. Of course, the inquiry, we think 35 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: that will clear the air and restore confidence in the community, 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: needs to examine everything that took place, from when those 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: shots were fired to of course when and how Zachary 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: Rolf was a resident charge. 39 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: Leiah, Look, there'll be some people listening going, why do 40 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: we need to do this? When there has been this 41 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: court process and there is going to be a coronial 42 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: as well. So why is this something that's entirely separate. 43 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Why is it needed? 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 3: Because I think territories have a lot of unanswered questions, 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: and of course this has been possibly the biggest murder 46 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: trial in our nation for some time now. The charging 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: of a police officer is a very serious and unusual 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: thing to take place. What we know is that a 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: coronial usually and you know, not being a coroner myself, 50 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: but from my understanding, the coronial process usually explores the 51 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 3: lead up to and how a person passed away and 52 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: the events surrounding that. It's to provide responses and recommendations 53 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: to government about what went wrong, what could have avoided 54 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 3: the circumstance from happening, and what improvements can be made. 55 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: To systems going forward. 56 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 3: Our inquiry is everything after that, and I shouldn't say 57 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: our inquiry and inquiry is everything after that. And of 58 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: course huge concerns by the Police Association and others and 59 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: the community and police have been raised around why was 60 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: he charged. Investigators were reportedly expressing a concern about the 61 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: haste and the lack of evidence around the charge. 62 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: The police Association. 63 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: Have said the Assistant Commissioner took no notes of the 64 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: decision to charge. Of course, we had the Chief Minister 65 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: Innuendo Moose famously saying that consequences will flow. So these 66 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: are all things that need to be examined, and they 67 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: are all things that happened after and in the lead 68 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: up to the charge. 69 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: Well, look, I asked the Chief Minister, Michael Gullller about 70 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: this on the show yesterday. 71 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: Take a listen to what he had to say. 72 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: So you're totally ruling out any other independent look at 73 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: this and any independent look into whether there's been any 74 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: kind of political interference. You're asking for conspiracy that and 75 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying, no, I'm not, No, I'm not asking if 76 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: you're a conspiracy No, you're actually no. 77 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: Actually, I'm representing the committity. 78 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: I think it's actually, I think that's a bit of 79 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: a ridiculous statement to make you know, I'm representing views 80 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: of the community that like that. People are out there 81 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: saying right now, and if you want to call them 82 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: conspiracy nuts, it's a bit disrespectful towards them. If I'm honest, okay, 83 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: towards members of the public, people who voted for you 84 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: there is an Eykak. 85 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 2: They're independent, they can look at anything, and the coroner's independent. 86 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: We're also looking at this. 87 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: Lea Finocchio. Are you a conspiracy nuts, I'm certainly. 88 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: Not, Katie, and I think it just shows how crazed 89 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 3: and out of touch the Chief Minister is on this issue. 90 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 3: I mean, we also heard not only was that incredibly 91 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: offensive and dismissive of genuine concerns being raised by the 92 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: Police Association and the community, but you know, we also 93 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: heard a desperate chief minister offering up new information. I 94 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: mean the comments he said to you around the reason 95 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: he was in Neuen Demu is because he wanted to 96 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 3: deal with the closure of the Hell's Clinic. It's certainly 97 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: new news to me, Katie, and I don't think many 98 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 3: of your listeners have heard the Chief ever say that before. 99 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: And it just begs the question. 100 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: Well, why did you get on a plane with the 101 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: police commissioner days after a police shoe go to a 102 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: community with the police minister when you're allegedly down there 103 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: to talk about health issues. Why didn't he take Natasha 104 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: Files with him instead of Nicole Madison. Why wasn't he 105 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: on a separate plane from the Police Commissioner to avoid 106 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: the appearance that there would be any discussions around an 107 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: upcoming criminal investigation trial or otherwise. You know, there's just 108 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: a lot of concern around this issue, and my focus 109 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: is about clearing the air. 110 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: My focus is about ensuring. 111 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: That people, particularly our police, who for two and a 112 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: half years have you know, their morale has been decimated, 113 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: their confidence in their ability to do their job has 114 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: been put under under tremendous pressure. We've had a huge 115 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: amounts of police attrition. We need a process that shed's light, 116 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: clears the air and allows the territory community and our 117 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: police to heal and move forward. 118 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: Leah, there will be some people listening this morning though, 119 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: thinking to themselves, isn't a Supreme Court trial a coronial 120 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: and potentially an IKAC investigation enough so. 121 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: The trial deals with whether or not Constable Rolf was 122 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: guilty of murder and the other charges. 123 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: A jury found he was not guilty. 124 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: That only deals with that criminal element that is done 125 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: the coronial. A normal coronial process deals with how a 126 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 3: person died. We're talking about why was Constable Rolf charged 127 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: in the first place. How did we get to the 128 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: point where an officer was charged exercising his duty in 129 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 3: the course of his employment with the Northern Territory, defending 130 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: himself and others. 131 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: You know, how did we get to. 132 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: The point where we took the extraordinary step to charge 133 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: a police officer when that is something that I think 134 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: it's barely happened in our entire history as a nation, Katie. 135 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 3: So was there, you know, this appearance of political interference 136 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: due to the Chief minister's comments and again you know 137 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: he's tried to clarify by saying that what he meant 138 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 3: when he said consequences would flow was it was talking 139 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: about the coronial, Katie. 140 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: That doesn't make it any better. 141 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 3: And in fact, we had the police Commissioner just a 142 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: couple of days ago put a statement out saying, and 143 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: I quote, until that inquest is held, I'm constrained in 144 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: what I can say. 145 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: So if the police commissioner is constrained in what. 146 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: He can say and the lead up to a coronial, Now, 147 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: how on ers was a chief minister two days after 148 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: a shooting able to stand in front of a crowd 149 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: and effectively impugne that there was wrongdoing by police and 150 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: that something negative would come out of it. 151 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: Well, Leah, Look, I think that there are still a 152 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: lot of questions here that remain unanswered. I do think that, 153 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, I've no doubt there's going to be questions 154 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: asked in Parliament when Parliament resumes next week as well. 155 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: But something that I do want to move on to 156 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: is very much breaking news this morning, and the Northern 157 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: Territory Government is extending its public health emergency for an 158 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: additional ninety days under the Public and Environmental Health Act 159 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: of twenty eleven. Now, as we know, obviously over the 160 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: last two years, this declarations enabled the Chief Health Officer 161 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: to issue directions, in their words, to slow the spread 162 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen and keep Territory and saved from the virus. 163 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: This statement goes on to say that in this month's sittings, 164 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: so next week, the government is going to introduce a 165 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: bill to make amendments to the Act which will provide 166 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: transitional powers to the Chief Health Officer to manage a 167 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: pandemic emergency for a period of up to two years 168 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: following the revocation of the emergency declaration. Now, I think 169 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: there'll be a lot of people listening this morning wondering 170 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: exactly what this is going to mean, I think even 171 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: the extension for ninety days of the public health emergency 172 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: is much greater than what a lot of other states 173 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: are doing at this point. 174 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: And I know that some people out there. 175 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: Will be wondering whether this is all part of the 176 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: vaccine mandate discussion. But from your perspective, what do these 177 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: changes mean? 178 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: Well, it came as news to us this morning, and 179 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: of course a government who isn't politicizing COVID would certainly 180 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: be briefing members of Parliament around legislation coming forward that's 181 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: allegedly to keep our community safe. So we're very surprised 182 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: by the lack of consultation. What I'm concerned about, Katie, 183 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 3: is we have an Emergency Act that originally was designed 184 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: to allow government to give power to the Chief Health 185 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: Officer for five days only and there were reporting requirements 186 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: around that of course due to COVID, and we supported 187 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: government to extend that to ninety days, so that it 188 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: means every ninety days a government minister has to rock up, 189 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: has to front the community and explain why there is 190 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: a state of emergency. There a legislative criteria that government 191 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: have to meet to be able to give that power 192 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: to the Chow, and of course then there is transparency 193 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 3: and scrutiny in that process. What the government are essentially 194 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: saying is that they don't want to keep going with 195 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 3: the state of emergency, which I think a lot of 196 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: people would agree with. But the clincher is, and this 197 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: is where they're being very cute, what government are doing 198 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 3: is still giving all of the power bestowed to the 199 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: Chief Health Officer in that legislation. They're still giving the 200 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: CHOW that power for two years, an unfettered period of time, 201 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: without any of the scrutiny. So currently the CHOW only 202 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: gets that power because every ninety days a government minister 203 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: has to front up and explain why it's justified. Under 204 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: this legislation, what they're saying is the cho can just 205 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: have the power for two years and we can then 206 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: turn around as state of the community. 207 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: There's no state of emotion, so you reckon that once. 208 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: If this legislation passes through parliament next week, what it's 209 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: going to mean is that the CHOE can make any 210 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: of those declarations like around let's say a vaccine mandate, 211 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: around masks, any of that kind of thing without there 212 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: then every ninety days having to be sort of what 213 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: would you say, justification. 214 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: That's why it's happened exactly. 215 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: So the government is saying, we're going to renew the 216 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: ninety day period for another ninety days. 217 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: After that, we want it to go away. 218 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: So what we're doing is amending the legislation to give 219 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: the Choe all the power which is only there for 220 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 3: emergencies which have to be justified every ninety days. It 221 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 3: also means of because we've got our legislation which is 222 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: actually demanding that the Choe provide reports to the Parliament 223 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: and the community around the advice he's giving, it also 224 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: means that a report would not be given by the 225 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: Choe until three months after this next two year period, 226 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: so that would be after four years of a pandemic. 227 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: It would be the first time the community he's from 228 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: the Chow in a formal direct way, as required by 229 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 3: the legislation. So I don't disagree with chose powers necessarily, 230 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: So don't get me wrong, but I can't understand why 231 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 3: the government shouldn't have to front up at a minimum 232 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: every ninety days to justify why the Chow or all 233 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: six of them need to have the extent of the 234 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: powers provided in the Emergency Act. 235 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: It sounds quite extraordinary to me. And obviously I'm hearing 236 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: this from the first time for the first time, and 237 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm very aware that i'm hearing it. You know, you 238 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: are the Opposition leader. 239 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: And that's just my take from what we've been told 240 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: so far. 241 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: But look, this is something that we're going to have 242 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: to take a much closer look into. I think there'll 243 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: be people listening this morning who are really quite concerned 244 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: by this. Leah, I'm assuming from the artset that the 245 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: Opposition's not going to support this legislation. 246 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: Well, we certainly need to look at the details, So 247 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: Health Minister, Chief Minister, are you know where to find us. 248 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: We'd love to have a look at the bill where 249 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: members of Parliament, we have a responsibility to the community 250 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: and I certainly wouldn't want to see this shove through 251 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: on urgency next week where there's not the ability for 252 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: the community to engage and talk about this. This needs 253 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: to be consulted on. And you know you've got my email, 254 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: send me a copy. 255 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: Well, Opposition Leader Leaf and Occio, we are going to 256 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: have to leave it there. We appreciate you being on 257 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: the show twice this week. I know it's been a 258 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: very busy week, and Wednesdays your usual spot, but given 259 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: the extraordinary events that have unfolded this week, we've certainly 260 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: needed you on a couple of times, so we appreciate that. 261 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: Thank you for your time, Thank you every much.