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Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
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Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast
Speaker 4: for people who want financial freedom. Today's Friday, which means
Speaker 4: it's time to get the team together and celebrate you
Speaker 4: the incredible She's on the Money community. Today will be
Speaker 4: sharing our favorite money wins. We'll be helping to answer
Speaker 4: juicy money dilemma which this week is all about rainbow
Speaker 4: washing workplaces, and we unpack something you slid into our
Speaker 4: dams about which this week is the pressure to be
Speaker 4: personally and financially set up by your thirties.
Speaker 5: These are good exciting things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know they're very relatable. Actually both these are actually
Speaker 4: relatable to me. But Jess, the energy is different in
Speaker 4: this room today. I feel like we've got someone else
Speaker 4: with us.
Speaker 5: Well, that would be exactly why, because we do, in
Speaker 5: fact have somebody else with us. We have our wonderful
Speaker 5: friend Maria at Till joining us for this International Women's
Speaker 5: Day episode. And it's a very full cycle moment because
Speaker 5: if you came to our Melbourne International Women's Day event
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two, you would have seen the gorgeous
Speaker 5: Maria then as well. So we're so excited to have
Speaker 5: you back.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for having me. When you were saying that,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, am I breathing too heavily.
Speaker 1: In the.
Speaker 2: So it's good to be back. I'm so excited to
Speaker 2: be chatting to you guys. And I can't believe it's
Speaker 2: been what to you since then?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's flown. It is crazy. But for
Speaker 5: those who don't know you, Maria is a woman of
Speaker 5: so many talents. She is an author, a speaker, a host,
Speaker 5: former Miss Universe Australia as well as a huge advocate
Speaker 5: for women and the lgbt Q, I A plus communities. Literally,
Speaker 5: I feel like there's nothing that you can't or don't do.
Speaker 2: I feel like that list makes me sound so much
Speaker 2: more impressive than I actually am. I I can't stop
Speaker 2: ordering uberds, I can't read them out very well. I'm
Speaker 2: surprised I got here on time. So there's like there's
Speaker 2: a lot you guys, this is what I mean.
Speaker 5: It wouldn't be fair if you were all of these
Speaker 5: things and also very timely.
Speaker 2: So something there's a lot that gives you, guys.
Speaker 4: It's extremely comforting to know she's just one of.
Speaker 2: Us who heavily into microphones and disappears into the ether. Perfect.
Speaker 4: That's my kind of woman, honestly. A First of all,
Speaker 4: let's start off with talking about our weeks. Jess, do
Speaker 4: you want to go first? How's you've been?
Speaker 5: It's been good. I love International Women's Day Week because
Speaker 5: I feel like there's two sides to it, right, Because
Speaker 5: sometimes it can feel very performative, like we're rolling out
Speaker 5: the pink cupcakes in the corporate office. We love women
Speaker 5: will but we'll never promote them. So you know, it's
Speaker 5: kind of a double sided coin where it can feel
Speaker 5: very performative, but I love that we are celebrating women
Speaker 5: and all of the amazing things that they do. And
Speaker 5: it's a bit different for us this year because it's
Speaker 5: the first year in three years that we're not doing
Speaker 5: our events because vd's just had beautiful baby Mini, which
Speaker 5: is very exciting and new and different in and of itself.
Speaker 5: But it's just really cool, I think this week to
Speaker 5: see all of these incredible platforms creating space for women
Speaker 5: in all different sectors, in all different areas of the world,
Speaker 5: and I just am like gobbling up the content and
Speaker 5: absolutely living for it. So Happy International Women's Day, everybody,
Speaker 5: I'm loving it. How about you, Maria, how's your week been?
Speaker 5: You'd be busy? I feel like at the moment.
Speaker 2: Busy busy. It feels like one thing I'm getting better
Speaker 2: at over the years. I would have to say that
Speaker 2: I wasn't when I lasted. Your event is finding a
Speaker 2: sense of balance. So even though it's busy, I'm still
Speaker 2: making time for life, stuff to go for a walk,
Speaker 2: read a book, not lose my mind. And that's really nice,
Speaker 2: you know, So things are good in mind. I can't complain.
Speaker 5: Bext to how's your week been?
Speaker 2: Really nice?
Speaker 4: I stopped meditating a little while ago, and I just
Speaker 4: started up again, so I feel like maybe it's placebo effect,
Speaker 4: but I feel like so much more zan, you know,
Speaker 4: And I think I needed it this week because it's
Speaker 4: always always around this time that you see the the
Speaker 4: M word misogynists popping up every now and then when's
Speaker 4: International Menday Midsday, so every other day of the year.
Speaker 4: But anyway, so I feel like I've needed it this
Speaker 4: week and it has really come in handy. So for me,
Speaker 4: I've just been chilling as well. It's just been a
Speaker 4: really nice week. But Jess, I feel like I don't
Speaker 4: have a good sag. I really wish I did. I
Speaker 4: was trying to, but I really want to hear about
Speaker 4: the community money wins, all right, let me.
Speaker 5: Give you some. So firstly, this week I've got a
Speaker 5: money win from Rachel, who said I bought my first home.
Speaker 5: Property Playbook helped me immensely. And that might be a
Speaker 5: little bit self indulgent because Property Playbook is the show
Speaker 5: that I co hosted, but I'm just really excited for you, Rachel.
Speaker 5: I feel like that is such a wonderful feeling, and
Speaker 5: I know what a hard slog it is to get there.
Speaker 5: I feel like all of us do. So congratulations, proud
Speaker 5: of your girls.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 5: Next, I've got a money win from Leah, who said,
Speaker 5: my partner and I are moving in together after Easter,
Speaker 5: so I have been scouring the op shops to stock
Speaker 5: up our home. This coffee machine popped up on Facebook
Speaker 5: Marketplace on Saturday for free, and I thought, surely not,
Speaker 5: so I messaged the guy who posted it and I
Speaker 5: was the first one to reach out, so I went
Speaker 5: and picked it up straight away, and my partner could
Speaker 5: hardly believe it when I told him. RRP would have
Speaker 5: been around two thousand, five hundred dollars, So it is
Speaker 5: my biggest money win today. And she popped in a
Speaker 5: photo and it's one of those I'm not a coffee drinker,
Speaker 5: but like fancy Barista digital. That's incredible and it made
Speaker 5: me think, you know, on Facebook place when people with
Speaker 5: something is free, but really it's not free. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: I was worried that that's where that was going to go,
Speaker 5: but it didn't happy ending.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 4: I don't believe that.
Speaker 5: I know how good well done, Leah. Next, I've got
Speaker 5: a money win from Alana, who said I cleaned out
Speaker 5: my spare bedroom and I had one hundred and twenty
Speaker 5: bucks in a backpack that I hadn't used in years.
Speaker 4: WHOA, okay, I go.
Speaker 5: Where every week there is a win from somebody saying, like,
Speaker 5: I found twenty bucks in my jeans, I found fifty
Speaker 5: bucks in my car, And I want to know how
Speaker 5: these people are losing their cash ever had?
Speaker 2: How is it not turning up in the washing machine?
Speaker 6: Have?
Speaker 2: Are you not washing your money using it in the dryer?
Speaker 4: Like that's a good point, maybe they had.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just really clean money.
Speaker 5: It's really crazy on a different level. That's good, thank you.
Speaker 5: I don't come out with the sugar.
Speaker 4: Oh god, that's great.
Speaker 5: Thank you so quick.
Speaker 4: She's out of his book.
Speaker 5: I'm not normally the funny ones.
Speaker 2: Take it go.
Speaker 4: I'll take it and run, babe.
Speaker 5: I've got money in from ash who said seven to
Speaker 5: eleven has struck again. This has to be the most
Speaker 5: I've ever saved so far. My fiance and I share
Speaker 5: a seven eleven account, so we can bounce off the
Speaker 5: fuel lock based on the areas that we're in, because
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes more regional areas maybe it's a little cheaper.
Speaker 5: So they share the account and they're saving all the
Speaker 5: dollars that they can in the lead up to their
Speaker 5: wedding in September. And she saved thirteen dollars just by
Speaker 5: locking in the fuel. Oh amazing. It's good, well done.
Speaker 5: It's very good start, very good start. Indeed. Then I've
Speaker 5: got one from Amanda who said I rode into the
Speaker 5: city for work on my husband's e by last week
Speaker 5: and saved myself a ten dollars sixty public transport fee
Speaker 5: and I got two hours worth of exercise out of it.
Speaker 5: Very good. Those things are so good, the electric ones,
Speaker 5: and you.
Speaker 2: Can publicly hire. You don't know the app, you just
Speaker 2: jump one for me to be I've done it. Instilettos.
Speaker 2: It's amazing.
Speaker 5: That is excludin, there is footage, is there really finance.
Speaker 2: It's good. It's really good.
Speaker 5: It's easy, and it's so good for the environment too.
Speaker 5: I feel as well just getting around and any wins there, yeah,
Speaker 5: well done, excellent on Amanda. And then lastly I have
Speaker 5: money Win from Kurra who said money Win, I finally
Speaker 5: cracked a thousand dollars cash back in my shop back account.
Speaker 5: And that's for all the people who say the little
Speaker 5: things don't add up because you know how sometimes you
Speaker 5: get like fifty cents back or a couple of dollars.
Speaker 5: She's cracked a grand and that is extremely impressive.
Speaker 4: That impressive.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But Maria, we when we have people come on,
Speaker 5: we say, do you have a money win or perhaps
Speaker 5: a money confession that you could share with us for
Speaker 5: the week.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I'm going to start this on a note.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just you know, marder myself a little bit here,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to give you a money loss, a
Speaker 2: bit of a learning we love because hopefully this helps
Speaker 2: somebody else win. Okay by sharing this love it. I
Speaker 2: you know, when I realized I'm coming on the podcast,
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, think about money, thinking about finances.
Speaker 2: I went into my subscriptions and I'm like, how much
Speaker 2: stuff am I paying for that I don't need to?
Speaker 2: Turns out, Raya.
Speaker 5: You've heard a committed relationship.
Speaker 2: You guys had my girlfriend on this podcast a couple
Speaker 2: of days ago. So I have a woman, and yet
Speaker 2: I've been paying for a dating app that I don't use.
Speaker 5: Hate.
Speaker 2: I hate that guitar Tuna.
Speaker 5: Guys, do you play guitar?
Speaker 2: I have not, so much plucked a string. I bought
Speaker 2: a guitar in twenty twenty one, and so that was
Speaker 2: my lockdown. Like lost, we all had a lockdown crisis.
Speaker 2: Mine was totally I'm gonna learn to play guitar ag
Speaker 2: with some country music. Didn't pluck a string, had been
Speaker 2: paying for tuning out for a three years. I don't
Speaker 2: want to think about how much money I poured into it.
Speaker 2: So if you're listening, this was me sacrificing my mind,
Speaker 2: you know it's a money loss. This is my story.
Speaker 2: I hope it helps somebody else by sharing, so.
Speaker 4: I think I will already I'm like, I can't wait
Speaker 4: until we're out of the studio so I can quickly
Speaker 4: check what.
Speaker 2: I If we subscribed, let us say.
Speaker 5: That the most obscure thing you've ever subscribed to and
Speaker 5: realized is because guitar tune is pretty up there.
Speaker 7: Wait a minute, you all look at me like we
Speaker 7: just you don't believe I could play the guitar with
Speaker 7: the country due everyone's eyes wide and listening, and I'm like,
Speaker 7: maybe I played tuning.
Speaker 4: A friend's guitars. What I thought surely.
Speaker 2: Minelated a thick layer of dust, actually got rid of it.
Speaker 2: Last year, So did you.
Speaker 4: Tune it at least? No, I didn't my dad.
Speaker 2: And my dad I worked this out. Just didn't happen
Speaker 2: for me. Nothing really, the guitar thing didn't take off.
Speaker 2: So sure you can't see me opening for Taylor Swift
Speaker 2: anytime soon.
Speaker 5: Oh that's the only reason I would have walked.
Speaker 2: One day.
Speaker 4: Maybe one day.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen like the hot drummer, like the
Speaker 2: hot girls who played the drums and then like the
Speaker 2: hot like guys. Yeah, it's like in what diluted parallel universe,
Speaker 2: and I'll be one of those hot guitar girls. It
Speaker 2: has not happened, but who knows.
Speaker 4: I you know completely. I'm exactly saying. When I go
Speaker 4: to like gigs and stuff, I'm like, I could be
Speaker 4: like this, I could feel like this. I never touch
Speaker 4: a single instrument in my life.
Speaker 5: Not a musical bone in your body.
Speaker 4: No, not a single one. Do you know what your.
Speaker 5: Body is made up off? Though I was gonna say
Speaker 5: broke bones, but savvy money saving bones.
Speaker 3: You had your money laundering, and now.
Speaker 5: It was like, I can be funny again, confident Tay,
Speaker 5: and I tried to give you one.
Speaker 4: I am grateful.
Speaker 5: I am trying I loved it.
Speaker 4: Honestly, you can try again because we can go three
Speaker 4: for three, Jess. I do have some broke tips for
Speaker 4: you guys. We have one from the community, one from myself,
Speaker 4: and then hopefully Maria. If you have one, no pressure,
Speaker 4: feel free to shear walls at the end. So the
Speaker 4: first one comes from Abby who says, roast left veggies
Speaker 4: that are going bad and blend with a can of
Speaker 4: crushed slash popped tomatoes to make pizza slash pasta sauce.
Speaker 4: Add some dried herbs make it even better, but not
Speaker 4: necessary if you don't have them. That is us something
Speaker 4: I had never thought of before.
Speaker 5: Also, good kids, and you want to sneak veggies in
Speaker 5: I've heard that that's a very popular lack. Oh my god,
Speaker 5: there's fifteen vegetables you'd never know.
Speaker 4: Totally just pulse them into oblivion.
Speaker 5: So it doesn't resemble a vegetable anyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty good and also money saving. So I
Speaker 4: usually just chuck those things in the garden or like whatever,
Speaker 4: but in the garden to compost them, to compost them exactly,
Speaker 4: But instead you make yourself a lovely pasta sauce or
Speaker 4: pizza sauce gorgeat pretty good in My one for this
Speaker 4: week actually came from a very good friend of mine,
Speaker 4: maybe my girlfriend, I can't say. But basically, if you
Speaker 4: go to the markets as things are closing up, you
Speaker 4: can either get things for very cheap or for free.
Speaker 5: Like a weekend market like a Camberwell market, like.
Speaker 4: A Campwell market, or even just like I don't know,
Speaker 4: I haven't tried it at a Prayer market. I feel
Speaker 4: like it's probably going to be a little bit for
Speaker 4: those listening and if you don't know Prayer and it's
Speaker 4: a little i would say more expensive pot part of Melbourne,
Speaker 4: try it there, I mean, go for it. But yes,
Speaker 4: those little like pop up markets or just like any
Speaker 4: kind of like food stalls, food trucks, that kind of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: people are usually giving things away for free at the
Speaker 4: very end when they're going to chuck them out anyway.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I did the Hunter Markets, which is a
Speaker 5: fashion market here in Melbourne, and there was a girl
Speaker 5: at the store next to me who had like very
Speaker 5: expensive stuff and the market's like four or five hours whatever,
Speaker 5: and by the end of it, she literally just had
Speaker 5: a tub that she put on the floor and said
Speaker 5: take it as free because she said she didn't want
Speaker 5: to take it home, and so I feel like you're
Speaker 5: totally right, Like sometimes people are like, well, better some
Speaker 5: money than no money.
Speaker 4: Totally, that's really good. What was it like.
Speaker 5: In the box? Yeah, clothes. I was selling my clothes.
Speaker 5: I did not need more clothes.
Speaker 4: That's incredible. Yeah, Maria. Do you happen to have a
Speaker 4: broke tip to share?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 2: I do, But you know what, I originally my mind
Speaker 2: went to like a really boring place. I'm going to
Speaker 2: two Okay, so but one's kind of like I know,
Speaker 2: but one's kind of like cool and fun and whatever.
Speaker 2: But the first one is I try and trick myself
Speaker 2: with my budgeting spread sheet because everything's like automatically formulated,
Speaker 2: so like as say invoice is coming, I work for myself.
Speaker 2: You know, you could do this with your income if
Speaker 2: you're a salaried employee. I actually change the formulas to
Speaker 2: make sure I'm putting more away for tax and super
Speaker 2: that I'm meant to. So then I have a certain
Speaker 2: amount that I'm allowed to play with, and I budget
Speaker 2: very strictly, and then at the end of the end
Speaker 2: of financial year, I'm left with like a little bonus
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 5: That is it's like a fake free month.
Speaker 2: So it's like a fake because I've tricked myself. But
Speaker 2: once this spreadsheet is said, I don't really look outside.
Speaker 2: And then my other tip is one of my best friends,
Speaker 2: and you know, you do this with a friend or
Speaker 2: someone you trust. But every six months, gather up clothes
Speaker 2: that maybe you've just worn on high rotation and swap
Speaker 2: it wardrobes off with a friend so that you're sort
Speaker 2: of like getting a little bit, you know, just don't
Speaker 2: buy things so much if it ends up in landfill
Speaker 2: and clothes, you know, pre loved clothes. You can get
Speaker 2: good wear out of your mates wardrobes, families wardrobes, just
Speaker 2: wardrobe swap. So that's really good.
Speaker 5: I've seen little wardrobes swap parties and I always think
Speaker 5: that looks so fun.
Speaker 2: And then just keep track, like if you're like me
Speaker 2: type a, like i'd keep like an Excel spreadsheet, you know,
Speaker 2: but if you want a bag, but it's just fun
Speaker 2: to you know, mix it up and try and experiment
Speaker 2: with your style.
Speaker 4: That's so much a good idea. I really like that
Speaker 4: that actually you need more clothes.
Speaker 2: I need more. It does require you to part with
Speaker 2: some O.
Speaker 4: Yes, true, I want to break even clothes. Okay, let's
Speaker 4: go to a really quick break. But on the flip side,
Speaker 4: we're going to talk about rainbow washing workplaces, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 5: Welcome back, everybody. Let's take a listen to this week's
Speaker 5: money dilemma.
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Speaker 6: Oh, let's take a listen to this week's money dilemma.
Speaker 2: Hey, team, So.
Speaker 8: Like, I've got a really curly one for you, right,
Speaker 8: I work for a smaller business and I would say
Speaker 8: that overall they're not very supportive of LGBTQIA plus communities.
Speaker 8: But what really annoys me is that when pride comes
Speaker 8: along suddenly they pretend that they care, and they do
Speaker 8: that by pushing us, as in like the staff, into
Speaker 8: donating to these causes so they can talk about it
Speaker 8: on their social media and it makes them look super generous,
Speaker 8: but like I know for a fact, they're donating nothing,
Speaker 8: So the whole thing seems really insincere, and I feel
Speaker 8: quite pressured to take part. And it's not that I
Speaker 8: wouldn't donate, it's just that I don't want my job
Speaker 8: to be telling me that I have to donate. Anyway,
Speaker 8: I would like to bring this up with them politely.
Speaker 8: I don't really know how to do that, and I
Speaker 8: don't know if I should.
Speaker 5: Bring it up at all.
Speaker 8: I'm going to be honest because I find this whole
Speaker 8: conversation super uncomfortable. Anyway, I'd love to know what you
Speaker 8: thought and if you have any advice.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks by you.
Speaker 5: I feel like this is very on brand with what
Speaker 5: we were saying earlier about International Women's Day. Are kind
Speaker 5: of the same.
Speaker 2: True the cupcakes and could perform. Do you know what
Speaker 2: it takes me back to? It takes me back to
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, the Black Lives Matter movement and the Black Square,
Speaker 2: the Black Square and brands who have never engaged a
Speaker 2: person of color in front of the lens, behind the lens.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, Yeah, there's a black square and
Speaker 2: no action to follow. Yeah, it takes me back to that.
Speaker 2: How yuck. It just that listening to that just made
Speaker 2: me want to, like my skin crawl a little bit.
Speaker 2: Now people still do that.
Speaker 5: It's really unfortunate, I think because the reason that I
Speaker 5: think these brands do it is they've cottoned onto the
Speaker 5: fact that, particularly our generation generations are like the up
Speaker 5: and coming generations, brands and companies that align with our
Speaker 5: ethics are incredibly important to us. It's like, I am
Speaker 5: not buying for a company that goes against my personal
Speaker 5: moral code or my moral compass right. So they've realized
Speaker 5: that to get people's dollars, they need to align to people,
Speaker 5: and they need to publicly be seen to be doing good.
Speaker 5: And logically, the solution there is for that company to
Speaker 5: do social good, to support causes, to support employees who
Speaker 5: may or may not be members of the LGBTQA plus community.
Speaker 5: Employees are people too, And I think that there's also
Speaker 5: the element, as our listener is saying, you feeling really
Speaker 5: uncomfortable about being put in a position where you don't
Speaker 5: want to look like the bad guy by saying I
Speaker 5: don't want to donate to this cause, which may not
Speaker 5: be because you don't support and believe in that cause,
Speaker 5: but you might want to work or advocate in your
Speaker 5: own way outside of the workplace. And I think that
Speaker 5: it's particularly hard because as an employee, I think sometimes
Speaker 5: you can feel like you're representative of this brand, especially
Speaker 5: if they're wanting to waive their banner on Instagram and
Speaker 5: be like look at us, like go Pride, But then
Speaker 5: behind the scenes, they're really not supporting the people who
Speaker 5: need and want that support, and that's the whole point.
Speaker 5: And so I feel like it's just this whole, big,
Speaker 5: uncomfortable thing for these employees and I don't know how
Speaker 5: you bring that up necessarily, And it's such a rock
Speaker 5: and a hard place because on one hand, I want
Speaker 5: to be like no, like tell them that that's not okay,
Speaker 5: advocate for yourself. But also we know that if they're
Speaker 5: not supportive to begin with, maybe they're not going to
Speaker 5: be receptive.
Speaker 4: That's very good point. I don't know, like I think
Speaker 4: so the workplace they currently work in. If anyone this
Speaker 4: workplace is listening, tune out. I'm kidd I'm not going
Speaker 4: to say anything bad, but I know that for Pride months,
Speaker 4: I think it was last year or the year before,
Speaker 4: we weren't doing anything. We do have a whole social
Speaker 4: committee that's dedicated to things like this, and so I
Speaker 4: was like, what the hell's going on? It's like, was
Speaker 4: it June? And I was like, you know, can I
Speaker 4: just kind of had a conversation with the head of
Speaker 4: the social committee. And if your workplace doesn't have a
Speaker 4: social committee, I know that's quite rare. Maybe someone in charge,
Speaker 4: someone who has the power to be making bigger decisions,
Speaker 4: maybe have a chat with them. But what I did
Speaker 4: was I basically said I would like to be seeing
Speaker 4: things happen for this kind of you know, like a
Speaker 4: Pride month or maybe Mardi Gras, things like that. Love
Speaker 4: these things to be celebrated in the workplace to make
Speaker 4: me feel a little bit more I don't know, welcome.
Speaker 4: But also I know it's a little bit awkward, but
Speaker 4: just maybe broach it in a way that's like, hey,
Speaker 4: it would be really cool if we just maybe did
Speaker 4: some things year round. Let's have a flag a flat,
Speaker 4: let's put a flag up or something, you know, nothing ictic,
Speaker 4: but just to make people who may or may not
Speaker 4: be part of that community feel welcome. And I don't
Speaker 4: know it can be something as small as that, but yeah,
Speaker 4: that really is a tough one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, I just think you know, for businesses, what
Speaker 2: I think what astounds me about that is that this
Speaker 2: person from your community sounds like, you know, they're really
Speaker 2: feeling like their business does not actually get behind supporting
Speaker 2: these certain communities, which to me feels really strange in
Speaker 2: this day and age twenty two. It feels really strange
Speaker 2: because of what you've said. Unfortunately, a lot of businesses
Speaker 2: are getting around it for commercial reasons. But for the
Speaker 2: most part, what I think has happened after the big
Speaker 2: lockdowns in twenty twenty is there was a bit of
Speaker 2: a digital revolution and now the people with a voice.
Speaker 2: It's not just reserved for people in power traditional media.
Speaker 2: It's like anyone with an Internet connection can speak up
Speaker 2: and what they say gains traction. And so now people
Speaker 2: that you haven't heard from, say like people from the
Speaker 2: queer community or women, and it's just we get to
Speaker 2: speak and say what we need. So it's astounding to
Speaker 2: me that this business isn't sincere in their efforts, and
Speaker 2: your listener who's written in, they sound like they're really
Speaker 2: struggling with that dissonance of It's not that they don't
Speaker 2: want to support the cause, but I just can't get
Speaker 2: behind this performatively, and I think that's fair. So when
Speaker 2: I worked in HR, so in a past life, I
Speaker 2: want to go front HR. And it reminds me of
Speaker 2: myself back then because I worked in a male dominated
Speaker 2: industry and I remember back then like of always been
Speaker 2: very passionate about diversity and inclusion, and I wanted to
Speaker 2: champion you know, what are we doing for general equality
Speaker 2: in the space you guys? And I remember bringing it
Speaker 2: up with the manager of mine and she allowed me
Speaker 2: to create and host and lead an event celebrating women
Speaker 2: in the industry and their stories and it was amazing.
Speaker 2: But what was uncomfortable for me was dissonance between that
Speaker 2: and like things culturally that were actually not right, like
Speaker 2: you know, senior female leaders in the business not wanting
Speaker 2: to share that they had kids and not feeling supported
Speaker 2: and it sounds like, you know, you put your money
Speaker 2: with your mouth, is they're not doing it. I saw
Speaker 2: it not happening, and so I'm with you, Beck, I think, really,
Speaker 2: you know, you have every right to speak up, and
Speaker 2: whether you're talking to your HR rep or you're talking
Speaker 2: to your boss, I'm very like you catch more flies
Speaker 2: with honey than vinegars. I'd say, hey, it's so great
Speaker 2: that you know you're doing this thing around Pride or
Speaker 2: International Women's Day, but that there are three hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty four other days in the calendar years, So what
Speaker 2: else are we doing? So you know, put it to them,
Speaker 2: keep everything in writing, take it from a hr gal,
Speaker 2: everything in writing. But you know, I would even then
Speaker 2: try and pitch them ideas, like take things to them,
Speaker 2: because then you know, if they're really not you know,
Speaker 2: they don't want to create an employee resource group after
Speaker 2: you've suggested it, they don't want to support local charities,
Speaker 2: then if you have the means I recognize in this economy,
Speaker 2: it's a privilege to be able to do this work out,
Speaker 2: whether you know with your moral compass, is this a place.
Speaker 4: You want to be totally?
Speaker 2: You know, like it just sounds like from the start
Speaker 2: when you said they don't support the communities, like I
Speaker 2: just you know, if that's something you believe in, like
Speaker 2: do you want to be there and if you can
Speaker 2: afford to, Maybe it doesn't align culturally.
Speaker 4: Totally, And I guess that goes for like every you know,
Speaker 4: company's kind of like core values. If they don't align
Speaker 4: with yours, are you comfortable working there? And if you
Speaker 4: are cool? If not, maybe explore your options again, as
Speaker 4: you say, Maria, if you have the capacity to, if
Speaker 4: you have the resources, you know, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: I think that's very, very good advice.
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say before we move on the
Speaker 5: last aspect. I guess of the listener question was, you know,
Speaker 5: what do I do about the financial side? Like they
Speaker 5: want me to donate, I don't really want you it
Speaker 5: doesn't align with my morals. I feel like if you
Speaker 5: want to get out a jail free card, it's really
Speaker 5: easy to say, hey, I love and support this cause myself.
Speaker 5: I actually, you know, work actively to support outside of
Speaker 5: the workplace, So I'm going to continue to do what
Speaker 5: I'm doing. Love that you guys are raising funds, you know,
Speaker 5: would be awesome if the company could maybe match or
Speaker 5: something like that. I think don't feel bad for not
Speaker 5: participating through your workplace because everybody can support a cause
Speaker 5: and advocate for a cause. And even if you're not
Speaker 5: putting funds behind that, you can spread awareness on your
Speaker 5: social media. You can talk to your friends and family
Speaker 5: about it. There's lots you can do to support something
Speaker 5: that's important to you that doesn't require you to cough up,
Speaker 5: particularly through your workplace if it is, as you say,
Speaker 5: making you super uncomfortable, because it's not your job to
Speaker 5: be the post a child for them.
Speaker 2: Yes, I love that advice, and it doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: you are not behind that cause. That does not have
Speaker 2: to be a medium you choose. And I think people
Speaker 2: feel pressure, you know, when it comes to advocacy or
Speaker 2: supporting causes. People feel pressure to do it in the
Speaker 2: most visible way, in the most you know. Sometimes advocacy
Speaker 2: is something as simple as being in your own circles
Speaker 2: of influence, being at the dinner table with your parents
Speaker 2: and saying, hang on, that's not an appropriate thing to say.
Speaker 2: We don't say that anymore. Sometimes that's enough. It's not
Speaker 2: about saying, hey, this is a check that I just
Speaker 2: put down with this cause in front of everybody, especially
Speaker 2: when it doesn't align. I think that's great.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's so true. Support and advocacy doesn't come in
Speaker 4: one form. It can come in many different forms, and
Speaker 4: it can start from within. So yeah, I absolutely love that.
Speaker 4: But on that, are we ready for a juicy juicy
Speaker 4: DM Yeah, absolutely, we are okay. So this week's DM
Speaker 4: our listener writes in and says, hey team. So I've
Speaker 4: just turned thirty five and feeling deflated. My friends from
Speaker 4: school have followed the typical path of quote unquote, get
Speaker 4: a stable and good job, meet their life partner, get engaged,
Speaker 4: get married, buy a house, have kids, end quote, and
Speaker 4: so it goes on. My path is totally different. I
Speaker 4: have changed the industry I work in multiple times, gone
Speaker 4: back to UNI at twenty nine, recently broke up with
Speaker 4: my partner I thought I would marry. I have only
Speaker 4: two kne savings as I have prioritized travel. I can
Speaker 4: barely afford my rent, let alone dream of owning a property.
Speaker 4: I feel like I've done everything wrong. I go out
Speaker 4: with my friends and they arrive in their nice cars
Speaker 4: and beautiful clothes slash accessories whilst I'm catching public transport
Speaker 4: and in an outfit I have worn twenty times before.
Speaker 4: With them, they make comments about me living like I'm
Speaker 4: in my twenties, and it hurts. I just can't relate
Speaker 4: to them at all. There is so much pressure to
Speaker 4: be personally and financially set up at this age. Any
Speaker 4: advice on how to deal.
Speaker 5: With these feelings.
Speaker 4: Oh and it's a love heart and one of those
Speaker 4: you know those emojis with the the eyes that are
Speaker 4: looking up. There's like a bit of a glisten.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that makes it.
Speaker 4: I guess I could just shows. Yeah, I totally get that. Actually,
Speaker 4: as I'm reading that, I'm like, that sounds like a
Speaker 4: good life, you know, like coming from I think my
Speaker 4: friends and I it's probably a different lifestyle. My friends
Speaker 4: and I are all kind of on the same page.
Speaker 4: No one's really partnered up like some of us are,
Speaker 4: but no one's married. No one's having kids. Literally, one
Speaker 4: of my not to brag, one of many friends have
Speaker 4: one child, one other on the way, and she's still
Speaker 4: kind of coming to pubs and going to gigs and
Speaker 4: all this kind of stuff. So it really just sounds
Speaker 4: like the people you're surrounding yourself with the main not
Speaker 4: an issue. No one's way of living is an issue.
Speaker 4: But the fact that you're feeling like this, it's probably
Speaker 4: in the environment you're in. Because from reading that, and
Speaker 4: I'm sure reading that to you guys as well, I'm like, fun, fun, fun,
Speaker 4: you for getting out of a relationship you.
Speaker 5: Don't want to be in.
Speaker 4: Good for you for going traveling, good for you.
Speaker 2: Good for you.
Speaker 4: I'm loving it. I'm loving It's a good point.
Speaker 2: That's such a good point. And you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: thirty one and a lot of my friends are also
Speaker 2: in a similar place in life, but we're all on
Speaker 2: very different parts. And I remember my best friend and
Speaker 2: I were just chatting about this. We were actually talking
Speaker 2: about this in the context of romantic relationships, but I
Speaker 2: think this applies to life choices with finances and work
Speaker 2: as well. We were saying, how you know there's no
Speaker 2: one like you know, people talk about partners like when't
Speaker 2: you meet the Look, this is just my personal views,
Speaker 2: so but you know, you meet the one, or you
Speaker 2: end up in your dream job or this or that.
Speaker 2: It's like, there's actually just paths that you can take
Speaker 2: certain relationships. Your life will look different depending on the
Speaker 2: choices that you make, things that you do with your finances,
Speaker 2: if you choose to buy a house, if you choose
Speaker 2: to go off and travel. But ultimately, these are just
Speaker 2: paths based on choices and decisions that you've made, and
Speaker 2: it's not inherently good or bad. There just are and
Speaker 2: you're right, it's for no one to judge. You did
Speaker 2: what felt right for you. This is what your life
Speaker 2: is look like. Maybe it doesn't align anymore with what
Speaker 2: your maids are doing, but there's nothing wrong with it totally,
Speaker 2: and it's never too late to choose a different path.
Speaker 2: So it sounds like this person's kind of going well,
Speaker 2: maybe you're thinking more about wanting to have more savings
Speaker 2: and to change your financial situation, and kudos to you.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. But also I don't think. I don't without
Speaker 2: knowing what this person's friends are like and not wanting
Speaker 2: to make any assumptions. It could be that maybe they're
Speaker 2: concerned about your financial situation and that's just coming from
Speaker 2: them imposing their ideas of you should be doing. But
Speaker 2: also it's they shouldn't be making you feel bad, like
Speaker 2: I think with my mates, we're all in different financial
Speaker 2: places and I cannot imagine a world where we'd ever
Speaker 2: make one of us feel bad for not being able
Speaker 2: to afford doing something. Or you should be able to
Speaker 2: talk to your friends about it. I hope you'd be
Speaker 2: able to say, hey, it makes me feel this way
Speaker 2: when you say this, and yeah, that's not where I'm
Speaker 2: at so if you could just be sensitive.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like maybe they don't realize and the yeah, I
Speaker 5: think there could also be an element of like wistfulness.
Speaker 5: We spoke to Michelle Battersby a little while ago and
Speaker 5: we were chatting about, you know, similarly, people in different
Speaker 5: life stages, and it was really interesting. She raised such
Speaker 5: a good point in that you know, the people who
Speaker 5: have kids, they might actually be envious of your lifestyle
Speaker 5: because I think with any of the different paths that
Speaker 5: you can or might choose, there's pros and cons, like
Speaker 5: nobody is living the perfect life, no matter how good
Speaker 5: it looks from the outside. There is always an up
Speaker 5: and a down. And I think you know, people with kids,
Speaker 5: or people who are in a better financial situation, maybe
Speaker 5: they're working really long days. If they've got children, it
Speaker 5: can be really hard to get out and about because
Speaker 5: you've got someone that you can't live by themselves. Depending
Speaker 5: on how old they are, there's elements that it might
Speaker 5: be maybe they want to be living life like they
Speaker 5: did in their twenties, so they could almost be like
Speaker 5: a little bit of envy there, which is something to consider.
Speaker 5: But I think more than anything, like what you were saying, Maria, Like,
Speaker 5: if you are unhappy, you can change, Like you can
Speaker 5: start saving more money, you can start pursuing different things,
Speaker 5: you could change careers, like there are all of these
Speaker 5: options available to you. The world is truly your oyster.
Speaker 5: But if you're happy the way you are, that is
Speaker 5: also so valid and so fine. And we talk a
Speaker 5: lot about on the pod, like we draw the comparison
Speaker 5: between you and Ibec, Like I really want to buy
Speaker 5: a house. It is such a high priority to me,
Speaker 5: and I've worked incredibly hard and sacrificed a lot to
Speaker 5: get there. You could not care less, like I want
Speaker 5: to sit in the grass. I want to live my
Speaker 5: best life. I want to just enjoy and spend my
Speaker 5: money and do what I want, which is also completely
Speaker 5: fine and valid and a great choice to make. And
Speaker 5: it's those two things can exist in the same space
Speaker 5: and both be perfectly okay, good choices for each of us.
Speaker 5: And so I think, like there's also the element of
Speaker 5: it can be hard. I know that in this day
Speaker 5: and age, comparison culture is such a big thing, and
Speaker 5: there's a lot of pressure put on us to have
Speaker 5: the nice cars, have the nice clothes. You can feel
Speaker 5: left out or not as good because you don't have
Speaker 5: those quote unquote valuable things. But I think that if
Speaker 5: you can step outside of that and reflect on are
Speaker 5: you happy with where you are? And if you are,
Speaker 5: you're doing everything right, and if you're not, you can
Speaker 5: make changes to get to where you want to be.
Speaker 5: I feel like that's the crux of what I would say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I agree. Can I share something like
Speaker 2: what not to do in this situation?
Speaker 6: Ye?
Speaker 2: Because so I've actually been in the situation before. When
Speaker 2: I was twenty six, I was I think at that
Speaker 2: point i'd been in a relationship with the most beautiful
Speaker 2: man for like four to five years, and he was
Speaker 2: a little bit older than me. And at that point
Speaker 2: I was actually broke and in five figures of dead
Speaker 2: because when I was twenty one, I had just finished UNI.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what I wanted to do, so I
Speaker 2: just worked in retail for two years, and honestly, I
Speaker 2: was just living paycheck to paycheck, like working minimum wage,
Speaker 2: just to fund my lifestyle like going out on the
Speaker 2: weekends or whatever. And then I decided to go back
Speaker 2: to Unie, so broke Unie student life. And my ex
Speaker 2: was a little bit older than me and was working
Speaker 2: full time at a great job, and all of our
Speaker 2: shared friends were in a similar position. So I was
Speaker 2: around people who were able to travel and do things
Speaker 2: and have things. And we're starting to move out, and
Speaker 2: we're starting to buy their own cars and do all
Speaker 2: this stuff, and I couldn't afford to do anything. And
Speaker 2: I remembered this, like, when I heard this, DM, I
Speaker 2: was like, I have been there. I felt like I
Speaker 2: didn't belong in those circles. I felt like I wasn't
Speaker 2: good enough to be around them. And that's my own stuff.
Speaker 2: I was projecting, you know, onto myself. And but what
Speaker 2: I will say is my ex and those people never
Speaker 2: once made me feel bad about it. There was never
Speaker 2: snider from about my financial situation or things like that,
Speaker 2: which I really appreciated. But because I was so stuck
Speaker 2: in that run, I ended up trying to keep up
Speaker 2: with a lifestyle that wasn't aligned to me on a
Speaker 2: credit card, and I ended up in really, really shitty debt,
Speaker 2: and it took me a while to pay that off,
Speaker 2: and then, you know, get to the position that I'm
Speaker 2: in now. And what I really wouldn't wish for people
Speaker 2: is to internalize somebody else's ideas of what their life
Speaker 2: is meant to be, and then you put yourself in
Speaker 2: a position that's even worse off. Like if this is
Speaker 2: where you're at, you know, own that, like you, Like
Speaker 2: you said, there are pros and cons to every path
Speaker 2: we choose. Own it. Be happy, but don't put yourself
Speaker 2: in a position where you're set back because you're trying
Speaker 2: to buy someone else's perception of you being more well
Speaker 2: off and successful than you are.
Speaker 5: And success is so subjective.
Speaker 2: It's perception, Like we're trying to buy and keep up
Speaker 2: with perception. Just got to work on your own.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I completely agree, I completely agree. My last
Speaker 4: thing I do want to say is that this listener
Speaker 4: mentioned that they've changed industries a few times, and in
Speaker 4: the famous words of I think it might be Brene
Speaker 4: Brown or someone that Brene Brown interviewed recently, but some
Speaker 4: recent it was a little while ago, but she said
Speaker 4: something to the effect of, sometimes we don't have passions,
Speaker 4: Sometimes we just have curiosities. And that could mean that
Speaker 4: you change your curiosity a million times. That could Like myself,
Speaker 4: I've I've had like thirty different jobs, and I'm I
Speaker 4: don't think I'm particularly passionate about one single thing. I
Speaker 4: am instead curious about many things, and I will forever
Speaker 4: be do you know what I mean? I am so
Speaker 4: sorry if I've misquoted Brene Brown. I don't know exactly
Speaker 4: where I got this information from. Stuck with me.
Speaker 2: I made it up.
Speaker 4: I kind of made it.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was me.
Speaker 4: Actually quite well, I'm so wise. Let's see what the
Speaker 4: community said. So we asked the community, can you relate
Speaker 4: to this person? Fifty one percent of you said yes,
Speaker 4: big time. That's really good to know that, like literally
Speaker 4: half of us, one in two of us like yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm literally there. Forty times of you said not really,
Speaker 4: that's fair. And then we asked you for pressure to
Speaker 4: achieve certain things by particular ages slash timelines. Eighty one
Speaker 4: percent of you said yes, it's the worst, and then
Speaker 4: nineteen percent said no, I don't let that stuff get
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 5: Do you, guys, ever, reflect on the timeline you gave
Speaker 5: yourself when you were young? Because I wrote so vividly,
Speaker 5: remember I was like, great, I'm going to graduate high
Speaker 5: school at eighteen. I'm going to meet the love of
Speaker 5: my life, be married probably by twenty one. Yeah, a
Speaker 5: couple of kids, I would say, maybe be done by
Speaker 5: like twenty eight, twenty nine, and by the time I
Speaker 5: turned thirty, like, we're all set up. We've got the house,
Speaker 5: we've got the kids, we probably have a couple of cats.
Speaker 5: I'm turning thirty this year and I have none of
Speaker 5: those things. I have the love of my life, but
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 2: Have a house. Loss. And what's it been. It's been
Speaker 2: an adventure.
Speaker 5: It's exactly right, because.
Speaker 2: I've raised this is so great. When I was eighteen,
Speaker 2: mine was. I actually wrote it in a journal entry,
Speaker 2: and I'll it's worse. It's not just a writing. I
Speaker 2: drew a picture to a company I can't so I
Speaker 2: wrote that I was going to be and it was
Speaker 2: written like poetry. It was like twenty five year old psychologist,
Speaker 2: she sits by the window, drinking tea, watching the rain
Speaker 2: on her day off.
Speaker 5: Its manifesting. I kind of love it.
Speaker 2: None of it happened. But I said that I was
Speaker 2: gonna have private practice. Did you pictured myself with like
Speaker 2: a dog on the sitting on the couch and we
Speaker 2: were going to be married, first child on dome. Don't
Speaker 2: have the door marriage to the dog.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I.
Speaker 2: Did not try and manifest being married to a dog,
Speaker 2: it was married to a man, surprise him quick. It's
Speaker 2: just so much of it, Like you know, we have
Speaker 2: these stories and timelines, and the best thing is that
Speaker 2: if you wed yourself to that and you chase it,
Speaker 2: you know you might be you know, very likely disappointed.
Speaker 2: But if you open yourself up and you're kind of like, hey,
Speaker 2: this would be nice if it doesn't happen, I'm open
Speaker 2: for the adventure and staying curious. Which that word is
Speaker 2: amazing that you said. I think life just opens up
Speaker 2: in a bigger and better way than you can imagine.
Speaker 2: My life is so different and it's better than anything
Speaker 2: I could have conceived for myself, and only because they
Speaker 2: just took risks and it was like, well this doesn't work,
Speaker 2: I'll try something else. This doesn't work, I'll try something else. Yeah,
Speaker 2: which is it sounds like what that last listener was doing.
Speaker 2: So you're on the right track.
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally personally loving your lifestyle, baby girl.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 4: Then we asked you, guys, do you find it hard
Speaker 4: to spend time with people who are in a completely
Speaker 4: different life stage to you? Sixty six percent of you said, yeah,
Speaker 4: we just can't relate to each other. Thirty four percent
Speaker 4: of you said no, I haven't found this affects my
Speaker 4: relationships fair enough, and then we asked you to give
Speaker 4: us your two cents. One listener said, finding people in
Speaker 4: a similar boat to you that value similar things helps.
Speaker 4: That's so true. That really does help, but it's not essential.
Speaker 4: I suppose if, like you know, with us, we're saying
Speaker 4: here that we've had those relationships where you are at
Speaker 4: different life stages, but no one makes anyone feel bad
Speaker 4: for that. One listener said, got to find friends who
Speaker 4: value the same stuff. Some friends will never get the
Speaker 4: life pass, but it's not wrong. Another listener said, get
Speaker 4: new friends. Your experience is so normal. Don't let then
Speaker 4: make you feel less. And I can kind of, I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't know, like your friendship dynamics. Maybe you can
Speaker 4: just have a chat with them and be like, hey,
Speaker 4: you make me feel really sad. But maybe you need
Speaker 4: to look for people who will be kinder to you.
Speaker 4: That's up to you. Another listener said, they may wish
Speaker 4: for your life and what you have experienced, embrace it, which.
Speaker 2: Is what you were saying. Yes, so true.
Speaker 4: Another listener said, what's your why? Remember what your goals
Speaker 4: are and how you're achieving them, which I think is
Speaker 4: really nice because I think that we don't. Sometimes we
Speaker 4: end up in a on a path or in a
Speaker 4: life stage and we kind of are like, oh, I
Speaker 4: feel really bad about this, but like, why did you
Speaker 4: get there? What were the things that you know? Some
Speaker 4: people actually don't have a choice, and that's you know,
Speaker 4: it's very privileged to me to say, but some people
Speaker 4: are like, oh, because I made decisions along the way
Speaker 4: that made me very very happy, and they made me
Speaker 4: these friends, and they made me this job, and they
Speaker 4: made me this whatever. So find out what your why is.
Speaker 4: And honestly, it really doesn't sound like you're living a
Speaker 4: life that is anything to be ashamed of.
Speaker 5: Not at all.
Speaker 2: No, No, not at all.
Speaker 4: And lastly, one listener said, everyone has their own path.
Speaker 4: Be with friends who don't judge you for it. Great.
Speaker 4: I think that's just fundamentally Yeah, that's totally, totally. Absolutely,
Speaker 4: just know you're doing a great job. Don't feel bad
Speaker 4: about it. I want to live your life persol.
Speaker 2: Good for you and good for you for identifying you
Speaker 2: want something different for yourself. Now's the time. Go get it.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, go get a girl naps for that.
Speaker 5: What a perfect place to leave it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. Thank you so much, Maria. We
Speaker 4: have loved having you on. This has been such a
Speaker 4: great emphysode.
Speaker 2: I've loved being on. I feel like we've just laughed
Speaker 2: and talked about stage wisdom and embarrassing things in our past.
Speaker 2: So I will try and find a picture of my
Speaker 2: diary entry in the picture and I'll send it to
Speaker 2: you guys.
Speaker 5: Please do put that on the stories. And if people
Speaker 5: want to find you, where can I find you?
Speaker 2: Oh God, it's not keep that in yeah, because I
Speaker 2: love If you want to find me, you can find
Speaker 2: me on MARIEA. Taylor on Instagram, on I have TikTok.
Speaker 2: It's my more unhinged platform, perfect podcast, a book. Go
Speaker 2: have a look, have a Google, and don't read the
Speaker 2: mail articles because they're silly.
Speaker 6: Amen.
Speaker 5: Love that.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much again, Maria. You guys have a
Speaker 4: great weekend and we will see you next week.
Speaker 5: Bye bye, guys.
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