1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yr 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: the Order Kerni Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country, 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming through. 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: As this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing and 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: the storytelling of you to make a difference for today 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: and lasting impact for tomorrow. 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: Let's get into it. 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: She's on the Money. She's on the Money. 12 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 13 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 4: for people who want financial freedom. Today's Friday, which means 14 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: it's time to get the team together and celebrate you 15 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 4: the incredible She's on the Money community. Today will be 16 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 4: sharing our favorite money wins. We'll be helping to answer 17 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 4: juicy money dilemma which this week is all about rainbow 18 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: washing workplaces, and we unpack something you slid into our 19 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: dams about which this week is the pressure to be 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 4: personally and financially set up by your thirties. 21 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 5: These are good exciting things. 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know they're very relatable. Actually both these are actually 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 4: relatable to me. But Jess, the energy is different in 24 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: this room today. I feel like we've got someone else 25 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: with us. 26 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 5: Well, that would be exactly why, because we do, in 27 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 5: fact have somebody else with us. We have our wonderful 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 5: friend Maria at Til joining us for this International Women's 29 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 5: Day episode. And it's a very full cycle moment because 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 5: if you came to our Melbourne International Women's Day event 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two, you would have seen the gorgeous 32 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 5: Maria then as well. So we're so excited to have 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 5: you back. 34 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: Thank you guys for having me. 35 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 6: When you were saying that, I'm like, oh my god, 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 6: am I breathing too heavily. 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: In the. 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 6: So it's good to be back. I'm so excited to 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 6: be chatting to you guys. And I can't believe it's 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 6: been what to you since then? 41 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's flown. It is crazy. But for 42 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 5: those who don't know you, Maria is a woman of 43 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 5: so many talents. She is an author, a speaker, a host, 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 5: former Miss Universe Australia as well as a huge advocate 45 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 5: for women and the LGBT q I A plus communities. Literally, 46 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 5: I feel like there's nothing that you can't or don't do. 47 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 6: I feel like that list makes me sound so much 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 6: more impressive than I actually am. I I can't stop 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 6: ordering Uber eats, I can't read them out very well. 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 2: I'm surprised I got here on time. 51 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 6: So there's like there's a lot you guys, this is 52 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 6: what I mean. 53 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: It wouldn't be fair if you were all of these 54 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 5: things and also very timely. 55 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 6: So something there's a lot that gives you, guys. 56 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: It's extremely comforting to know she's just one of us who. 57 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 6: Heavily into microphones and disappears into the ether. 58 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 5: Perfect. 59 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: That's my kind of woman, honestly. A First of all, 60 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: let's start off with talking about our weeks. Jess, do 61 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 4: you want to go first? How's you've been? 62 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 5: It's been good. I love International Women's Day Week because 63 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 5: I feel like there's two sides to it, right, Because 64 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 5: sometimes it can feel very performative, like we're rolling out 65 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 5: the pink cupcakes in the corporate office. We love women 66 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 5: will but we'll never promote them. So you know, it's 67 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 5: kind of a double sided coin where it can feel 68 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 5: very performative. But I love that we are celebrating women 69 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 5: and all of the amazing things that they do. And 70 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 5: it's a bit different for us this year because it's 71 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 5: the first year in three years that we're not doing 72 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 5: our events because vd's just had beautiful baby Mini, which 73 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 5: is very exciting and new and different in and of itself. 74 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 5: But it's just really cool I think this week to 75 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 5: see all of these incredible platforms creating space for women 76 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 5: in all different sectors, in all different areas of the world, 77 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 5: and I just am like gobbling up the content and 78 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 5: absolutely living for it. So Happy International Women's Day, everybody. 79 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 5: I'm loving it. How about you, Maria, how's your week been? 80 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 5: You'd be busy? I feel like at the moment. 81 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: Busy busy. 82 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 6: It feels like one thing I'm getting better at over 83 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 6: the years. I would have to say that I wasn't 84 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 6: when I last did your event is finding a sense 85 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 6: of balance. So even though it's busy, I'm still making 86 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 6: time for life, stuff to go for a walk, read 87 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 6: a book, not lose my mind. And that's really nice, 88 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 6: you know, So things are good in mind. I can't complain. 89 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 5: Bext to how's your week been? 90 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: Really nice? 91 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 4: I stopped meditating a little while ago, and I just 92 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 4: started up again, so I feel like maybe it's placebo effect, 93 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: but I feel like so much more zan, you know, 94 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: And I think I needed it this week because it's 95 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: always always around this time that you see the the 96 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 4: M word misogynists popping up every now and then when's 97 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 4: International Menday Midsday, so every other day of the year, 98 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 4: but anyway, so I feel like I've needed it this 99 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 4: week and it has really come in handy. So for me, 100 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: I've just been chilling as well. It's just been a 101 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 4: really nice week. But Jess, I feel like I don't 102 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 4: have a good sag. I really wish I did. I 103 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: was trying to, but I really want to hear about 104 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 4: the community money wins, all right, let me. 105 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 5: Give you some. So firstly, this week I've got a 106 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 5: money win from Rachel, who said I bought my first home. 107 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 5: Property Playbook helped me immensely, And that might be a 108 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 5: little bit self indulgent because Property Playbook is the show 109 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 5: that I co hosted, but I'm just really excited for you, Rachel. 110 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 5: I feel like that is such a wonderful feeling, and 111 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 5: I know what a hard slog it is to get there. 112 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 5: I feel like all of us do. So congratulations, proud 113 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 5: of your girls. 114 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: Amazing. 115 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 5: Next, I've got a money win from Leah, who said 116 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 5: my partner and I are moving in together after Easter, 117 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 5: so I have been scouring the op shops to stock 118 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 5: up our home. This coffee machine popped up on Facebook 119 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 5: Marketplace on Saturday for free, and I thought, surely not, 120 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 5: so I messaged the guy who posted it and I 121 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 5: was the first one to reach out. So I went 122 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 5: and picked it up straight away, and my partner could 123 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 5: hardly believe it when I told him. RRP would have 124 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 5: been around two thousand, five hundred dollars, So it is 125 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 5: my biggest money win today. And she popped in a 126 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 5: photo and it's one of those I'm not a coffee drinker, 127 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 5: but like fancy Barista digital. That's incredible and it made 128 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 5: me think, you know, on Facebook place when people with 129 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 5: something is free, but really it's not free. Yeah, so 130 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 5: I was worried that that's where that was going to go, 131 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 5: but it didn't happy ending. 132 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. 133 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 4: I don't believe that I know. 134 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 5: How good well done, Leah. Next, I've got a money 135 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 5: win from Alana, who said I cleaned out my spare 136 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 5: bedroom and I had one hundred and twenty bucks in 137 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 5: a backpack that I hadn't used in years. 138 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 4: WHOA, okay, I go. 139 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 5: Where every week there is a win from somebody saying, 140 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 5: like I found twenty bucks in my jeans, I found 141 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 5: fifty bucks in my car, And I want to know 142 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 5: how these people are losing their cash ever had? 143 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 6: How is it not turning up in the washing machine? 144 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 6: How are you not washing your money using it in 145 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 6: the dryer? 146 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: Like that's a good point, maybe they had. 147 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just really clean money. 148 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 5: It's really crazy on a different level. That's good, thank you. 149 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 5: I don't come out with the sugar. Oh god, that'sa 150 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 5: thank you. 151 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 4: Next so quick, she's out of his book. 152 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 5: I'm not normally the funny ones take it go. 153 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 4: I' take it and run, babe. 154 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 5: I've got money in from ash who said seven to 155 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 5: eleven has struck again. This has to be the most 156 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 5: I've ever saved so far. My fiance and I share 157 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 5: a seven eleven account so we can bounce off the 158 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 5: fuel lock based on the areas that we're in, because 159 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 5: you know, sometimes more regional areas maybe it's a little cheaper. 160 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 5: So they share the account and they're saving all the 161 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 5: dollars that they can in the lead up to their 162 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 5: wedding in September. And she saved thirteen dollars just by 163 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 5: locking in the fuel. Oh amazing. It's good, well done. 164 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 5: It's very good start, very good start. Indeed. Then I've 165 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 5: got one from Amanda who said I rode into the 166 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 5: city for work on my husband's e by last week 167 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 5: and saved myself a ten dollars sixty public transport fee 168 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: and I got two hours worth of exercise out of it. 169 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 5: Very good. Those things are so good, the electric ones, and. 170 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: You can publicly hire. 171 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 6: You don't know the app, you just jump one for 172 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 6: me to be I've done it. 173 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: Instilettos. It's amazing. 174 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 5: That is exclude, there is footage, is there really finance. 175 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: It's good. It's really good. 176 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 5: It's easy and it's so good for the environment too. 177 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 5: I feel as well just getting around and any wins there, yeah, 178 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 5: well done, excellent on Amanda. And then lastly I have 179 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 5: money Win from Kurra who said money Win, I finally 180 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 5: cracked a thousand dollars cash back in my shop back account. 181 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 5: And that's for all the people who say the little 182 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 5: things don't add up because you know how sometimes you 183 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 5: get like fifty cents back or a couple of dollars. 184 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 5: She's cracked a grand and that is extremely impressive. 185 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: That impressive. 186 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, but Maria, we when we have people come on, 187 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 5: we say, do you have a money win or perhaps 188 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 5: a money confession that you could share with us for 189 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 5: the week. 190 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 6: Well, okay, I'm going to start this on a note. 191 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 6: I'm gonna just you know, marder myself a little bit here, 192 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 6: and I'm going to give you a money loss, a 193 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 6: bit of a learning we love because hopefully this helps 194 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 6: somebody else win. 195 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: Okay by sharing this love it. 196 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 6: I you know, when I realized I'm coming on the podcast, 197 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 6: I thought, you know, think about money, thinking about finances. 198 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 6: I went into my subscriptions and I'm like, how much 199 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 6: stuff am I paying for that I don't need to? 200 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: Turns out, Raya. 201 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 5: You've heard a committed relationship. 202 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 6: You guys had my girlfriend on this podcast a couple 203 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 6: of days ago. So I have a woman, and yet 204 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 6: I've been paying for a dating app that I don't use. 205 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 5: Hate. 206 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 2: I hate that guitar tuna, guys. 207 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 5: Do you play guitar? 208 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: I have not so much plucked a string. 209 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 6: I bought a guitar in twenty twenty one, and so 210 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 6: that was my lockdown. Like lost, we all had a 211 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 6: lockdown crisis. Mine was totally I'm gonna learn to play 212 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 6: guitar age with some country music. 213 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: Didn't pluck a string. 214 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 6: Had been paying for tuning out for a three years. 215 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to think about how much money I 216 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: poured into it. 217 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 6: So if you're listening, this was me sacrificing my mind, 218 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 6: you know it's a money loss. This is my story. 219 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 6: I hope it helps somebody else by sharing, so. 220 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: I think I will Already I'm like, I can't wait 221 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 4: until we're out of the studio so I can quickly 222 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 4: check what I I subscribed. 223 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 5: Let us say that the most obscure thing you've ever 224 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 5: subscribed to and realized is because guitar tune is pretty 225 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 5: up there. 226 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 7: Wait a minute, you all look at me like we 227 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 7: just you don't believe I could play the guitar with 228 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 7: the country due everyone's eyes wide and listening, and I'm like, 229 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 7: maybe I played tuning. 230 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 4: A friend's guitars. What I thought surely. 231 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: Minelated a thick layer of dust. 232 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 6: Actually got rid of it last year so did you 233 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 6: tune it at least? No, I didn't my dad and 234 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 6: my dad I worked this out. Just didn't happen for me. 235 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 6: Nothing really, the guitar thing didn't take off. So sure 236 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 6: you can't see me opening for Taylor Swift anytime soon. 237 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 5: Oh that's the only reason I would have walked. 238 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: One day. 239 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 4: Maybe one day. 240 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 6: Have you ever seen like the hot drummer, like the 241 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 6: hot girls who played the drums and then like the 242 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 6: hot like guys. 243 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like in what diluted parallel universe. 244 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 6: And I'll be one of those hot guitar girls. 245 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: It has not happened, but who knows. 246 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 4: I you know completely. I'm exactly saying. When I go 247 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: to like gigs and stuff, I'm. 248 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: Like, I could be like this, I could feel like this. 249 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 4: I never touch a single instrument in my life. 250 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 5: Not a musical bone in your body. 251 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: No, not a single one. 252 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 5: Do you know what your body is made up off? 253 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 5: Though I was gonna say broke bones, but savvy money 254 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 5: saving bones. 255 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: You had your money laundering, and now. 256 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 5: It was like, I can be funny again, confident, takeway, 257 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 5: and I tried to give you one. 258 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 4: I am grateful, I am trying. 259 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: I loved it. 260 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 4: Honestly, you can try again because we can go three 261 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 4: for three, Jess. I do have some broke tips for 262 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: you guys. We have one from the community, one from myself, 263 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: and then hopefully Maria. If you have one, no pressure, 264 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 4: feel free to shear walls at the end. So the 265 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 4: first one comes from Abby who says, roast left veggies 266 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: that are going bad and blend with a can of 267 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: crushed slash popped tomatoes to make pizza slash pasta sauce. 268 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 4: Add some dried herbs make it even better, but not 269 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 4: necessary if you don't have them. That is us something 270 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 4: I had never thought of before. 271 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 5: Also, good kids, and you want to sneak veggies in 272 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 5: I've heard that that's a very popular lack. Oh my god, 273 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 5: there's fifteen vegetables you'd never know. 274 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 4: Totally just pulse them into oblivion so it doesn't resemble 275 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: a vegetable anyway. Yeah, that's pretty good and also money saving. 276 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: So I usually just chuck those things in the garden 277 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 4: or like whatever, but in the garden to compost them, 278 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 4: to compost them exactly. But instead you make yourself a 279 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 4: lovely pasta sauce or pizza sauce gorgeat pretty good in 280 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 4: My one for this week actually came from a very 281 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: good friend of mine, maybe my girlfriend, I can't say. 282 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 4: But basically, if you go to the markets as things 283 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: are closing up, you can either get things for very 284 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 4: cheap or for free. 285 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 5: Like a weekend market like a Camberwell market, like. 286 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 4: A Campwell market, or even just like I don't know, 287 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: I haven't tried it at a Prayer market. I feel 288 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: like it's probably going to be a little bit for 289 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 4: those listening and if you don't know Prayer and it's 290 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 4: a little i would say, more expensive pot part of Melbourne, 291 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: try it there. I mean, go for it. But yes, 292 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: those little like pop up markets or just like any 293 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 4: kind of like food stalls, food trucks, that kind of thing. Yeah, 294 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: people are usually giving things away for free at the 295 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 4: very end when they're going to chuck them out anyway. 296 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, like I did the Hunter Markets, which is a 297 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 5: fashion market here in Melbourne, and there was a girl 298 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 5: at the store next to me who had like very 299 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 5: expensive stuff and the market's like four or five hours whatever, 300 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 5: and by the end of it, she literally just had 301 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 5: a tub that she put on the floor and said 302 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 5: take it as free because she said she didn't want 303 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 5: to take it home, and so I feel like you're 304 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 5: totally right, Like sometimes people are like, well, better some 305 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 5: money than no money. 306 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 4: Totally, that's really good. What was it like. 307 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 5: In the box? Yeah, clothes. I was selling my clothes. 308 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 5: I did not need more clothes. 309 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 4: That's incredible. Yeah, Maria. Do you happen to have a 310 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 4: broke tip to share? Well? 311 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 6: I do, But you know what, I originally my mind 312 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 6: went to like a really boring place. 313 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to two. 314 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 6: Okay, so but one's kind of like I know, but 315 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 6: one's kind of like cool and fun and whatever. But 316 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 6: the first one is I try and trick myself with 317 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 6: my budgeting spread sheet because everything's like automatically formulated, so 318 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 6: like as say invoice is coming, I work for myself. 319 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 2: You know, you could do this. 320 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 6: With your income if you're a salaried employee. I actually 321 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 6: change the formulas to make sure I'm putting more away 322 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 6: for tax and super that I'm meant to. So then 323 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 6: I have a certain amount that I'm allowed to play with, 324 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 6: and I budget very strictly, and then at the end 325 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 6: of the end of financial year, I'm left with like 326 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 6: a little bonus and I'm like, oh. 327 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 5: That is it's like a faith free month. 328 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 6: So it's like a fake because I've tricked myself. But 329 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 6: once this spreadsheet is said, I don't really look outside. 330 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 6: And then my other tip is one of my best friends, 331 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 6: and you know, you do this with a friend or 332 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 6: someone you trust. 333 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: But every six months, gather up. 334 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 6: Clothes that maybe you've just worn on high rotation and 335 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 6: swap it wardrobes off with a friend so that you're 336 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 6: sort of like getting a little bit, you know, just 337 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 6: don't buy things so much if it ends up in 338 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 6: landfill and clothes, you know, pre loved clothes. You can 339 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 6: get good wear out of your mates wardrobes, families wardrobes, 340 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 6: just wardrobe swap. 341 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: So that's really good. 342 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 5: I've seen little wardrobes swap parties and I always think 343 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 5: that looks so fun. 344 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 6: And then just keep track, like if you're like me 345 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 6: type a, like i'd keep like an Excel spreadsheet, you know, 346 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 6: but if you want a bag, but it's just fun 347 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 6: to you know, mix it up and try and experiment 348 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 6: with your style. 349 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: That's so much a good idea. I really like that that. 350 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: Actually you need more clothes. 351 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: I need more. It does require you to part with 352 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: some O. 353 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: Yes, true, I want to break even. Okay, let's go 354 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: to a really quick break. But on the flip side, 355 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: we're going to talk about rainbow washing, workplaces, don't go anywhere. 356 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 5: Welcome back, everybody. Let's take a listen to this week's 357 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 5: money dilemma. 358 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 8: Hi, there, have you got a money dilemma you just 359 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 8: can't solve? The Sheese on the Money Team is here 360 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 8: to help. 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And they do 373 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 9: that by pushing us, as in like the staff, into 374 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 9: donating to these causes so they can talk about it 375 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 9: on their social media and it makes them look super generous, 376 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 9: but like I know for a fact, they're donating nothing, 377 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 9: so the whole thing seems really insincere, and I feel 378 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 9: quite pressured to take part. And it's not that I 379 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 9: wouldn't donate, it's just that I don't want my job 380 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 9: to be telling me that I have to donate. Anyway, 381 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 9: I would like to bring this up with them politely. 382 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 9: I don't really know how to do that, and I 383 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 9: don't know if I should. 384 00:16:59,040 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 5: Bring it up at all. 385 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 9: I'm going to be honest because I find this whole 386 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 9: conversation super uncomfortable. Anyway, I'd love to know what you 387 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 9: thought and if you have any advice. 388 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks by you. 389 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 5: I feel like this is very on brand with what 390 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 5: we were saying earlier about International Women's Day. Are kind 391 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 5: of the same. 392 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 6: True the cupcakes and could perform. Do you know what 393 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 6: it takes me back to? It takes me back to 394 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 6: twenty twenty, the Black Lives Matter movement and the Black Square, 395 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 6: the Black Square and brands who have never engaged a 396 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 6: person of color in front of the lens, behind the lens. 397 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 6: All of a sudden, Yeah, there's a black square and 398 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 6: no action to follow. Yeah, it takes me back to 399 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 6: that how yuck. It just that listening to that just 400 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 6: made me want to, like my skin crawl a little bit. 401 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: Now people still do that. 402 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 5: It's really unfortunate, I think because the reason that I 403 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 5: think these brands do it is they've cottoned onto the 404 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 5: fact that, particularly our generation generations are like the up 405 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 5: and coming generations, brands and companies that align with our 406 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 5: ethics are incredibly important to us. It's like, I am 407 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 5: not buying for a company that goes against my personal 408 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 5: moral code or my moral compass. 409 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: Right. 410 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 5: So they've realized that to get people's dollars, they need 411 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 5: to align to people, and they need to publicly be 412 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 5: seen to be doing good. And logically, the solution there 413 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 5: is for that company to do social good, to support causes, 414 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 5: to support employees who may or may not be members 415 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 5: of you know, the LGBTQA plus community. Employees are people too. 416 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 5: And I think that there's also the element, as our 417 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 5: listener is saying, you feeling really uncomfortable about being put 418 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 5: in a position where you don't want to look like 419 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 5: the bad guy by saying I don't want to donate 420 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 5: to this cause, which may not be because you don't 421 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 5: support and believe in that cause, but you might want 422 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 5: to work or advocate in your own way outside of 423 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 5: the workplace. And I think that it's particularly hard because 424 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 5: as an employee, I think sometimes you can feel like 425 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 5: you're representative of this brand, especially if they're wanting to 426 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 5: waive their banner on Instagram and be like look at us, 427 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 5: like go Pride, But then behind the scenes, they're really 428 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 5: not supporting the people who need and want that support, 429 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 5: and that's the whole point. And so I feel like 430 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 5: it's just this whole, big, uncomfortable thing for these employees 431 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 5: and I don't know how you bring that up necessarily, 432 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 5: And it's such a rock and a hard place because 433 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 5: on one hand, I want to be like no, like 434 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 5: tell them that that's not okay, advocate for yourself. But 435 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 5: also we know that if they're not supportive to begin with, 436 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 5: maybe they're not going to be receptive. 437 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: That's trick, very good point. I don't know, like I 438 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: think so the workplace they currently work in. If anyone 439 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 4: this workplace is listening, tune out. 440 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 5: I'm kidding. 441 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: I'm not going to say anything bad, but I know 442 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: that for Pride months, I think it was last year 443 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 4: or the year before we weren't doing anything. We do 444 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 4: have a whole social committee that's dedicated to things like this, 445 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 4: and so I was like, what the hell's going on? 446 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 4: It's like, was it June? And I was like, you know, 447 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 4: can I just kind of had a conversation with the 448 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 4: head of the social committee. And if your workplace doesn't 449 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 4: have a social committee, I know that's quite rare. Maybe 450 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 4: someone in charge, someone who has the power to be 451 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 4: making bigger decisions, maybe have a chat with them. But 452 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 4: what I did was I basically said I would like 453 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 4: to be seeing things happen for this kind of you know, 454 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 4: like a Pride month or maybe Mardi Gras, things like that. 455 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 4: Love these things to be celebrated in the workplace to 456 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 4: make me feel a little bit more I don't know, welcome. 457 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: But also I know it's a little bit awkward, but 458 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 4: just maybe broach it in a way that's like, hey, 459 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: it would be really cool if we just maybe did 460 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 4: some things year round. Let's have a flag a flat, 461 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 4: let's put a flag up or something, you know, nothing ictic, 462 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 4: but just to make people who may or may not 463 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 4: be part of that community feel welcome. And I don't 464 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 4: know it can be something as small as that, but yeah, 465 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 4: that really is a tough one. 466 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh, I just think you know, for businesses, what 467 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 6: I think what astounds me about that is that this 468 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 6: person from your community sounds like, you know, they're really 469 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 6: feeling like their business does not actually get behind supporting 470 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 6: these certain communities, which to me feels really strange in 471 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 6: this day and age twenty two. It feels really strange 472 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 6: because of what you've said. Unfortunately, a lot of businesses 473 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 6: are getting around it for commercial reasons. But for the 474 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 6: most part, what I think has happened after the big 475 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 6: lockdowns in twenty twenty is there was a bit of 476 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 6: a digital revolution and now the people with a voice. 477 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 6: It's not just reserved for people in power traditional media. 478 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 6: It's like anyone with an Internet connection can speak up 479 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 6: and what they say gains traction. And so now people 480 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 6: that you haven't heard from, say like people from the 481 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 6: queer community or women, and it's just we get to 482 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 6: speak and say what we need. So it's astounding to 483 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 6: me that this business isn't sincere in their efforts, and 484 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 6: your listener who's written in, they sound like they're really 485 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 6: struggling with that dissonance of It's not that they don't 486 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 6: want to support the cause, but I just can't get 487 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 6: behind this performatively, and. 488 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: I think that's fair. So when I worked in. 489 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 6: HR so in a past life, I went to go 490 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 6: front HR and it reminds me of myself back then, 491 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 6: because I worked in a male dominated industry and I 492 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 6: remember back then like of always been very passionate about 493 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 6: diversity and inclusion, and I wanted to champion you know, 494 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 6: what are we doing for general equality in the space 495 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 6: you guys? And I remember bringing it up with the 496 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 6: manager of mine and she allowed me to create and 497 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 6: host and lead an event celebrating women in the industry 498 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 6: and their stories, and it was amazing. But what was 499 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 6: uncomfortable for me was dissonance between that and like things 500 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 6: culturally that were actually not right, like you know, senior 501 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 6: female leaders in the business not wanting to share that 502 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 6: they had kids and not feeling supported and it sounds like, 503 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 6: you know, you put your money with your mouth, is 504 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 6: they're not doing it. I saw it not happening, and 505 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 6: so I'm with you, Beck, I think, really, you know, 506 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 6: you have every right to speak up, and whether you're 507 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 6: talking to your HR rep or you're talking to your boss, 508 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 6: I'm very like you catch more flies with honey than vinegars. 509 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 6: I'd say, hey, it's so great that you know you're 510 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 6: doing this thing around Pride or International Women's Day, but 511 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 6: that there are three hundred and sixty four other days 512 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 6: in the calendar years, So what else are we doing? So, 513 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 6: you know, put it to them, keep everything in writing, 514 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 6: take it from a hr gal, everything in writing. But 515 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 6: you know, I would even then try and pitch them ideas, 516 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 6: like take things to them, because then you know, if 517 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 6: they're really not you know, they don't want to create 518 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 6: an employee resource group after you've suggested it, they don't 519 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 6: want to support local charities, then if you have the 520 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 6: means I recognize in this economy, it's a privilege to 521 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 6: be able to do this work out whether you know 522 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 6: with your moral compass, is this a place. 523 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 4: You want to be totally? 524 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 2: You know, like it just. 525 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 6: Sounds like from the start when you said they don't 526 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 6: support the communities, Like I just you know, if that's 527 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 6: something you believe in, like do you want to be 528 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 6: there and if you can afford to, Maybe it doesn't 529 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 6: align culturally. 530 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 4: Totally, And I guess that goes for like every you know, 531 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 4: company's kind of like core values. If they don't align 532 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 4: with yours, Are you comfortable working there? And if you 533 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 4: are cool? If not, maybe explore your options again, as 534 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: you say, Maria, if you have the capacity to, if 535 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 4: you have the resources, you know, all that kind of stuff. 536 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 4: I think that's very, very good advice. 537 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 5: I was just gonna say before we move on the 538 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 5: last aspect. I guess of the listener question was, you know, 539 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 5: what do I do about the financial side, Like they 540 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 5: want me to donate, I don't really want you it 541 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 5: doesn't align with my morals. I feel like if you 542 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 5: want to get out a jail free card, it's really 543 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 5: easy to say, hey, I love and support this cause myself. 544 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 5: I actually, you know, work actively to support outside of 545 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 5: the workplace, so I'm going to continue to do what 546 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 5: I'm doing. Love that you guys are raising funds, you know, 547 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 5: would be awesome if the company could maybe match or 548 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 5: something like that. I think don't feel bad for not 549 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 5: participating through your workplace, because everybody can support a cause 550 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 5: and advocate for a cause. And even if you're not 551 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 5: putting funds behind that, you can spread awareness on your 552 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 5: social media. You can talk to your friends and family, 553 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 5: about it. There's lots you can do to support something 554 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 5: that's important to you that doesn't require you to cough up, 555 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 5: particularly through your workplace if it is, as you say, 556 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 5: making you super uncomfortable because it's not your job to 557 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 5: be the post a child for them. 558 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 6: Yes, I love that advice, and it doesn't mean that 559 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 6: you are not behind that cause. That does not have 560 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 6: to be a medium you choose. And I think people 561 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 6: feel pressure, you know, when it comes to advocacy or 562 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 6: supporting causes, people feel pressure to do it in the 563 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 6: most visible way, in the most you know. Sometimes advocacy 564 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 6: is something as simple as being in your own circles 565 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 6: of influence, being at the dinner table with your parents 566 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 6: and saying, hang on, that's not an appropriate thing to say. 567 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: We don't say that anymore. Sometimes that's enough. 568 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 6: It's not about saying, hey, this is a check that 569 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 6: I just put down with this cause in front of everybody, 570 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 6: especially when it doesn't align. 571 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 2: I think that's great. 572 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 4: Yes, that's so true. Support and advocacy doesn't come in 573 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 4: one form. It can come in many different forms, and 574 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: it can start from within. So yeah, I absolutely love that. 575 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: But on that, are we ready for a juicy juicy 576 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 4: DM Yeah, absolutely we are okay. So this week's dm 577 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 4: our listener writes in and says, hey, team. So I've 578 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 4: just turned thirty five and feeling deflated. My friends from 579 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 4: school have followed the typical path of quote unquote, get 580 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: a stable and good job, meet their life partner, get engaged, 581 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 4: get married, buy a house, have kids, end quote, and 582 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 4: so it goes on. My path is totally different. I 583 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: have changed the industry I work in multiple times, gone 584 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 4: back to UNI at twenty nine, recently broke up with 585 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 4: my partner I thought I would marry. I have only 586 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 4: two kne savings as I have prioritized travel. I can 587 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 4: barely afford my rent, let alone dream of owning a property. 588 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 4: I feel like I've done everything wrong. I go out 589 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 4: with my friends and they arrive in their nice cars 590 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: and beautiful clothes slash accessories whilst I'm catching public transport 591 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 4: and in an outfit I have worn twenty times before. 592 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 4: With them, they make comments about me living like I'm 593 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: in my twenties, and it hurts. I just can't relate 594 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 4: to them at all. There is so much pressure to 595 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 4: be personally and financially set up at this age. Any 596 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 4: advice on how to deal. 597 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: With these feelings. 598 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: Oh, and it's a love heart and one of those 599 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 4: you know those emojis with the the eyes that are 600 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 4: looking up. There's like a bit of a glisten. 601 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, so that makes it. 602 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 4: I guess I could just shows. Yeah, I totally get that. Actually, 603 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 4: as I'm reading that, I'm like, that sounds like a 604 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 4: good life, you know, like coming from I think my 605 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 4: friends and I, it's probably a different lifestyle. My friends 606 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 4: and I are all kind of on the same page. 607 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 4: No one's really partnered up like some of us are, 608 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 4: but no one's married. No one's having kids. Literally, one 609 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 4: of my not to brag, one of many friends have 610 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 4: one child, one other on the way, and she's still 611 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 4: kind of coming to pubs and going to gigs and 612 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 4: all this kind of stuff. So it really just sounds 613 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 4: like the people you're surrounding yourself with the main not 614 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 4: an issue. No one's way of living is an issue. 615 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 4: But the fact that you're feeling like this, it's probably 616 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 4: in the environment you're in. Because from reading that, and 617 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 4: I'm sure reading that to you guys as well, I'm like, fun, fun, fun, 618 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 4: you for getting out of relationship you don't want to 619 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: be in Good for you for going traveling, goo, good 620 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 4: for you, good for you. I'm loving it. I'm loving 621 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 4: It's a good point. 622 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 2: That's such a good point. 623 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 6: And you know what, I'm thirty one and a lot 624 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 6: of my friends are also in a similar place in life, 625 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 6: but we're all on very different parts. And I remember 626 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 6: my best friend and I were just chatting about this. 627 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 6: We were actually talking about this in the context of 628 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 6: romantic relationships, but I think this applies to life choices 629 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 6: with finances and work as well. We were saying, how 630 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 6: you know there's no one like you know, people talk 631 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 6: about partners like when't you meet the Look, this is 632 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 6: just my personal views, so but you know, you meet 633 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 6: the one, or you end up in your dream job 634 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 6: or this or that. It's like, there's actually just paths 635 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 6: that you can take certain relationships. Your life will look 636 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 6: different depending on the choices that you make, things that 637 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 6: you do with your finances, if you choose to buy 638 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 6: a house, if you choose to go off and travel. 639 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 6: But ultimately, these are just paths based on choices and 640 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 6: decisions that you've made, and it's not inherently good or bad. 641 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 6: There just are And you're right it's for no one 642 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 6: to judge. You did what felt right for you. This 643 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 6: is what your life is look like. Maybe it doesn't 644 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 6: align anymore with what your maids are doing, but there's 645 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 6: nothing wrong with it totally, and it's never too late 646 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 6: to choose a different path. So it sounds like this 647 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 6: person's kind of going well. Maybe you're thinking more about 648 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 6: wanting to have more savings and to change your financial situation, 649 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 6: and kudos to you. That's amazing. But also I don't think. 650 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 6: I don't without knowing what this person's friends are like 651 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 6: and not wanting to make any assumptions. It could be 652 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 6: that maybe they're concerned about your financial situation and that's 653 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 6: just coming from them imposing their ideas of you should 654 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 6: be doing. But also it's they shouldn't be making you 655 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 6: feel bad, like I think with my mates, we're all 656 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 6: in different financial places and I cannot imagine a world 657 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 6: where we'd ever make one of us feel bad for 658 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 6: not being able to afford doing something. Or you should 659 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 6: be able to talk to your friends about it. I 660 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 6: hope you'd be able to say, hey, it makes me 661 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 6: feel this way when you say this, and yeah, that's 662 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 6: not where I'm at. 663 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: So if you could just be sensitive. 664 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, like maybe they don't realize and the yeah, I 665 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 5: think there could also be an element of like wistfulness. 666 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 5: We spoke to Michelle Battersby a little while ago and 667 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 5: we were chatting about, you know, similarly, people in different 668 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 5: life stages, and it was really interesting. She raised such 669 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 5: a good point in that you know, the people who 670 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 5: have kids, they might actually be envious of your lifestyle 671 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 5: because I think with any of the different paths that 672 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 5: you can or might choose, there's pros and cons, like 673 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 5: nobody is living the perfect life, no matter how good 674 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 5: it looks from the outside. There is always an up 675 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 5: and a down. And I think you know, people with kids, 676 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 5: or people who are in a better financial situation, maybe 677 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 5: they're working really long days. If they've got children, it 678 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 5: can be really hard to get out and about because 679 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 5: you've got someone that you can't live by themselves. Depending 680 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 5: on how old they are, there's elements that it might 681 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 5: be maybe they want to be living life like they 682 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 5: did in their twenties, so they could almost be like 683 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 5: a little bit of envy there, which is something to consider. 684 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 5: But I think more than anything, like what you were saying, Maria, 685 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 5: like if you are unhappy, you can change, like you 686 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 5: can start saving more money, you can start pursuing different things. 687 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 5: You could change careers, like there are all of these 688 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 5: options available to you. The world is truly your oyster. 689 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 5: But if you're happy the way you are, that is 690 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 5: also so valid and so fine. And we talk a 691 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 5: lot about on the pod, like we draw the comparison 692 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 5: between you and IBEC. Like I really want to buy 693 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 5: a house. It is such a high priority to me, 694 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 5: and I've worked incredibly hard and sacrificed a lot to 695 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 5: get there. You could not care less, like I want 696 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 5: to sit in the grass. I want to live my 697 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 5: best life. I want to just enjoy and spend my 698 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 5: money and do what I want, which is also completely 699 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 5: fine and valid and a great choice to make. And 700 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 5: it's those two things can exist in the same space 701 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 5: and both be perfectly okay, good choices for each of us. 702 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 5: And so I think, like there's also the element of 703 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 5: it can be hard. I know that in this day 704 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 5: and age, comparison culture is such a big thing, and 705 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 5: there's a lot of pressure put on us to have 706 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 5: the nice cars, have the nice clothes. You can feel 707 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 5: left out or not as good because you don't have 708 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 5: those quote unquote valuable things. But I think that if 709 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 5: you can step outside of that and reflect on are 710 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 5: you happy with where you are? And if you are, 711 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 5: you're doing everything right, and if you're not, you can 712 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 5: make changes to get to where you want to be. 713 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 5: I feel like that's the crux of what I would say. 714 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I agree. 715 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 6: Can I share something like what not to do in 716 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 6: this situation? 717 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: Ye? 718 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 6: Because so I've actually been in the situation before. When 719 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 6: I was twenty six, I was I think at that 720 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 6: point i'd been in a relationship with the most beautiful 721 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 6: man for like four to five years, and he was 722 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,719 Speaker 6: a little bit older than me. And at that point 723 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 6: I was actually broke and in five figures of dead 724 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 6: because when I was twenty one, I had just finished UNI. 725 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 6: I didn't know what I wanted to do, so I 726 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 6: just worked in retail for two years and honestly, I 727 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 6: was just living paycheck to paycheck, like working minimum wage, 728 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 6: just to fund my lifestyle like going out on the 729 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 6: weekends or whatever. And then I decided to go back 730 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 6: to UNIE, so broke Unie student life. And my ex 731 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 6: was a little bit older than me and was working 732 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 6: full time at a great job, and all of our 733 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 6: shared friends were in a similar position. So I was 734 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 6: around people who were able to travel and do things 735 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 6: and have things, and we're starting to move out, and 736 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 6: we're starting to buy their own cars and do all 737 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 6: this stuff, and I couldn't afford to do anything. And 738 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 6: I remembered this, like, when I heard this DM, I 739 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 6: was like, I have been there. I felt like I 740 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 6: didn't belong in those circles. I felt like I wasn't 741 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 6: good enough to be around them. And that's my own stuff. 742 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 6: I was projecting, you know, onto myself. And but what 743 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 6: I will say is my ex and those people never 744 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 6: once made me feel bad about it. There was never 745 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 6: snider from about my financial situation or things like that, 746 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 6: which I really appreciated. But because I was so stuck 747 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 6: in that run, I ended up trying to keep up 748 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 6: with a lifestyle that wasn't aligned to me on a 749 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 6: credit card, and I ended up in really, really shitty debt, 750 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 6: and it took me a while to pay that off, 751 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 6: and then, you know, get to the position that I'm 752 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 6: in now. And what I really wouldn't wish for people 753 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 6: is to internalize somebody else's ideas of what their life 754 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 6: is meant to be, and then you put yourself in 755 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 6: a position that's even worse off. Like if this is 756 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 6: where you're at, you know, own that, like you, Like 757 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 6: you said, there are pros and cons to every path 758 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 6: we choose. 759 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 2: Own it. 760 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 6: Be happy, but don't put yourself in a position where 761 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 6: you're set back because you're trying to buy someone else's 762 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 6: perception of you being more well off and successful than yeah, 763 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 6: you are. 764 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 5: And success is so subjective. 765 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 6: It's perception, Like we're trying to buy and keep up 766 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 6: with perception. 767 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 2: Ye just got to work on your own. 768 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I completely agree, I completely agree. My last 769 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 4: thing I do want to say is that this listener 770 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 4: mentioned that they've changed industries a few times, and in 771 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 4: the famous words of I think it might be Brene 772 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 4: Brown or someone that Brene Brown interviewed recently, but some 773 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 4: recent it was a little while ago, but she said 774 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 4: something to the effect of, sometimes we don't have passions, 775 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 4: Sometimes we just have curiosities. And that could mean that 776 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 4: you change your curiosity a million times. That could Like myself, 777 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 4: I've I've had like thirty different jobs, and I'm I 778 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 4: don't think I'm particularly passionate about one single thing. I 779 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: am instead curious about many things, and I will forever 780 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 4: be do you know what I mean? I am so 781 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 4: sorry if I've misquoted Brene Brown. I don't know exactly 782 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 4: where I got this information from. 783 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 5: Stuck with me. 784 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 6: I made it up. 785 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 4: I kind of made it. 786 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 2: Maybe it was me. 787 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 4: Actually quite well, I'm so wise. Let's see what the 788 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 4: community said. So we asked the community, can you relate 789 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 4: to this person? Fifty one percent of you said yes, 790 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 4: big time. That's really good to know that, like literally 791 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 4: half of us, one in two of us like yeah, 792 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 4: I'm literally there. Forty times of you said not really, 793 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 4: that's fair. And then we asked you for pressure to 794 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 4: achieve certain things by particular ages slash timelines. Eighty one 795 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 4: percent of you said yes, it's the worst, and then 796 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: nineteen percent said no, I don't let that stuff get 797 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 4: to me. 798 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 5: Do you, guys, ever reflect on the timeline you gave 799 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 5: yourself when you were young? Because I wrote so vividly, 800 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 5: remember I was like, great, I'm going to graduate high 801 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 5: school at eighteen. I'm going to meet the love of 802 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 5: my life, be married probably by twenty one. Yeah, a 803 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 5: couple of kids, I would say, maybe be done by 804 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 5: like twenty eight, twenty nine, and by the time I 805 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 5: turned thirty, like, we're all set up. We've got the house, 806 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 5: we've got the kids, we probably have a couple of cats. 807 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 5: I'm turning thirty this year and I have none of 808 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 5: those things. I have the love of my life, but 809 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 5: I don't have a house. 810 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 6: Loss. 811 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 2: And what's it been. It's been an adventure. 812 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 5: It's exactly right, because. 813 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 2: I've raised. 814 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 6: This is so great. When I was eighteen, mine was. 815 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 6: I actually wrote it in a journal entry, and I'll 816 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 6: it's worse. It's not just a writing. I drew a. 817 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: Picture to a company. 818 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 6: Can't so I wrote that I was going to be 819 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 6: and it was written like poetry. It was like twenty 820 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 6: five year old psychologist, she sits by the window, drinking tea, watching. 821 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: The rain on her day off. 822 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 5: Its manifesting. I kind of love it. 823 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 6: None of it happened, but I said that I was 824 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 6: gonna have private practice. Did you pictured myself with like 825 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 6: a dog on the sitting on the couch and we 826 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 6: were going to be married, first child on the dome, don't. 827 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: Have the door marriage to the dog. 828 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: Sorry, I. 829 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 6: Did not try and manifest being married to a dog. 830 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 6: It was married to a man, surprise him quick. It's 831 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 6: just so much of it. Like you know, we have 832 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 6: these stories and timelines, and the best thing is that 833 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 6: if you wed yourself to that and you chase it, 834 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 6: you know you might be you know, very likely disappointed. 835 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 6: But if you open yourself up and you're kind of like, hey, 836 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 6: this would be nice if it doesn't happen, I'm open 837 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 6: for the adventure and staying curious. 838 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: Which that word is amazing that you said. 839 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 6: I think life just opens up in a bigger and 840 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 6: better way than you can imagine. My life is so 841 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 6: different and it's better than anything I could have conceived 842 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 6: for myself. 843 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: And only because they just took. 844 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 6: Risks and it was like, well this doesn't work, I'll 845 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 6: try something else. This doesn't work, I'll try something else. Yeah, 846 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 6: which is it sounds like what that last listener was doing. 847 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 2: So you're on the right track. 848 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, totally personally loving your lifestyle, baby girl. 849 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 5: Okay. 850 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 4: Then we asked you, guys, do you find it hard 851 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 4: to spend time with people who are in a completely 852 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 4: different life stage to you? Sixty six percent of you said, yeah, 853 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 4: we just can't relate to each other. Thirty four percent 854 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 4: of you said, no, I haven't found this affects my 855 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 4: relationships fair enough, and then we asked you to give 856 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 4: us your two cents. One listener said, finding people in 857 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 4: a similar boat to you that value similar things helps. 858 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 4: That's so true. That really does help, but it's not essential. 859 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 4: I suppose if, like you know, with us, we're saying 860 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 4: here that we've had those relationships where you are at 861 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 4: different life stages, but no one makes anyone feel bad 862 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 4: for that. One listener said, got to find friends who 863 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 4: value the same stuff. Some friends will never get the 864 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 4: life pass, but it's not wrong. Another listener said, get 865 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 4: new friends. Your experience is so normal. Don't let then 866 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 4: make you feel less. And I can kind of, I mean, 867 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 4: I don't know, like your friendship dynamics. Maybe you can 868 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 4: just have a chat with them and be like, hey, 869 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 4: you make me feel really sad. But maybe you need 870 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 4: to look for people who will be kinder to you. 871 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 4: That's up to you. Another listener said, they may wish 872 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 4: for your life and what you have experienced, embrace it, which. 873 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 2: Is what you were saying. Yes, so true. 874 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 4: Another listener said, what's your why? Remember what your goals 875 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 4: are and how you're achieving them. Which I think is 876 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 4: really nice because I think that we don't. Sometimes we 877 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 4: end up in a on a path or in a 878 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 4: life stage and we kind of are like, oh, I 879 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 4: feel really bad about this, but like, why did you 880 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 4: get there? What were the things that you know? Some 881 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 4: people actually don't have a choice, and that's you know, 882 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 4: it's very privileged to me to say, but some people 883 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 4: are like, oh, because I made decisions along the way 884 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 4: that made me very very happy, and they made me 885 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 4: these friends, and they made me this job, and they 886 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 4: made me this whatever. So find out what your why is. 887 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 4: And honestly, it really doesn't sound like you're living a 888 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 4: life that is anything to be ashamed of. 889 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 5: Not at all. 890 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 6: No, no, not at all. 891 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 4: And lastly, one listener said, everyone has their own path. 892 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 4: Be with friends who don't judge you for it. Great. 893 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 6: I think that's just fundamentally Yeah, that's totally, totally. 894 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 4: Absolutely, just know you're doing a great job. Don't feel 895 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 4: bad about it. I want to live your life persol. 896 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 6: Good for you and good for you for identifying you 897 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 6: want something different for yourself. Now's the time. Go get it. 898 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 4: Absolutely, go get a girl naps for that. 899 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 5: What a perfect place to leave it. 900 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. 901 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Maria. We have loved having you on. 902 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: This has been such a great emphysode. 903 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 6: I've loved being on. I feel like we've just laughed 904 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 6: and talked about stage wisdom and embarrassing things in our past. 905 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 6: So I will try and find a picture of my 906 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 6: diary entry in the picture and I'll send it to 907 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 6: you guys. 908 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 5: Please do put that on the stories. And if people 909 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 5: want to find you, where can I find you? 910 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 6: Oh God, it's not keep that in yeah, because I 911 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 6: love If you want to find me, you can find 912 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 6: me on MARIEA. Taylor on Instagram, on I have TikTok. 913 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 6: It's my more unhinged platform, perfect podcast, a book. Go 914 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 6: have a look, have a Google, and don't read the 915 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 6: mail articles because they're silly. 916 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 8: Amen. 917 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 5: Love that. 918 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 4: Thank you so much again, Maria. You guys have a 919 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 4: great weekend and we will see you next week. 920 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 5: Bye bye, guys. 921 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 8: Bo. 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