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Speaker 1: And you might have. You might recall about a week

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Speaker 1: after he'd revealed the plight of little Sianna Santiago, who

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Speaker 1: they were convinced that rampant mold in their former NT

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Speaker 1: this tragic episode in which Siannas suffered from an infection

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Speaker 1: of her throat. Now, Blaine MLA, Mark Turner has written

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Speaker 1: to the Attorney General urging a mold inspection of every

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Speaker 1: amid concerns of a time bomb of medical complications similar

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Speaker 1: to those suffered by this little girl back in twenty nineteen. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Member for Blaine, Mark Turner, joins me in the

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Speaker 1: studio right now. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Mark, Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: Mark. Firstley, I know that you are in regular contact

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Speaker 1: with this family. How is little Siana going.

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Speaker 2: She's still receiving regular medical treatment and that's one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons that they had to go back to New

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Speaker 2: Zealand so that they could get the regular physio and

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Speaker 2: try and do everything they could to get her to

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Speaker 2: livers good normal life as possible with the conditions that

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Speaker 1: Now, I know there's certainly going to be some people

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Speaker 1: listening this morning who are thinking, you know, what was

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Speaker 1: have evidence to support that that was indeed what had

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Speaker 2: I've learned more about mold in the last two weeks

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Speaker 2: the things that Steven so Stephen reached out to me

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Speaker 2: because he was a former constituent of the Blame electorate

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Speaker 2: and it was a last hurrah before he gave up.

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Speaker 2: I've got the lab results and it turns out that

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Speaker 2: not all mold is created equal. There was two police

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Speaker 2: these are all the different types of mold that are

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Speaker 2: in the premises.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, So the lab results came back and showed that

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Speaker 2: these are all the different harmful ones that are in there,

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Speaker 2: and under the Australian standards, if there's anybody in there,

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Speaker 2: get them out now.

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Speaker 1: And so that's essentially what those lab results showed. Yes, now,

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Speaker 1: from your understanding, is anybody living in those homes now?

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Speaker 2: No? My understanding, and I haven't had any correspondence back yet,

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Speaker 2: is that those houses are sitting there, closed off and

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Speaker 2: they're wearing level four ppe so respirators suits.

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Speaker 1: It seems it seems quite unbelievable to me that a

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Speaker 2: Pretty much what Stephen said. And when you look at

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Speaker 2: the results between the two houses, the house that Stephen

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Speaker 2: was in, all the results are high, but the other

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Speaker 2: house was even higher. And since this article has gone

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Speaker 2: the problem is without doing the tests, you don't know.

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Speaker 2: And the other issue is it depends who's living in there.

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Speaker 2: If you're a fit and healthy thirty year old who

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Speaker 1: Then it may not be such an impact on you.

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Speaker 2: You might not see it immediately, whereas if you're an

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Speaker 1: Now, talk us through. I know that you are pretty

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Speaker 1: concerned now that this issue of my could be more systemic,

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Speaker 1: I guess than what anybody thinks or what anybody had thought.

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Speaker 1: What do you think needs to happen.

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Speaker 2: Here, Let's just find out. I'd rather be in a

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Speaker 2: And I couldn't agree more. The big thing for Stephen

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Speaker 1: So Mark, do you think now that there needs to

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Speaker 2: Obviously, given my past, I've got a soft spot for police, yep,

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Speaker 2: and I've had it's the police that reach out to

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Speaker 2: let's just get out there, do the tests, find out

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Speaker 2: Apparently, from what I've been told, it's not. There's nobody

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Speaker 2: as far as i'm awareing the territory that provides the services.

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Speaker 2: But it wouldn't be an impossible feat to either have

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Speaker 1: Now you've spoken or you've sent an email a senter

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Speaker 1: letter to the Attorney general. That was the former Attorney General,

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Speaker 2: So I've written, I've wrote to the former Attorney General

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Speaker 2: just on the back of speaking to Stephen. The more

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Speaker 2: I've learned about this, I've then written to the current

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Speaker 2: more I've spoken to Stephen and the more documentation I've

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Speaker 2: safe for looking into it into just.

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Speaker 1: Those times, or looking into the more widespread actually going

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Speaker 2: My understanding is they're looking at it holus bolus across

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, Well, please keep us up to date and

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Speaker 1: to go through all of those homes we'll try, you know,

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Speaker 1: like you've said, I do reckon that there's going to

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, my heart goes out to that

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Speaker 2: No, and if if there's one thing I'd like to do, well,

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Speaker 2: I've got the time on the show, Katie. It's just

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Speaker 2: say to people, if you work out remote, if you've

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Speaker 2: got family or friends out remote and this is a concern,

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Speaker 2: please ring Anti works. Talk to them. They know about this,

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Speaker 2: they're actively looking into it. And even if you're not sure,

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Speaker 2: it's better to be saved rather than sorry. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, well, Mark Turner, the member for Blaine. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time this morning. Thanks so much for coming in.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Kate,