WEBVTT - What to eat in Spring 🌼

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<v Speaker 1>Get everyone. Sam Wood here with another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Wood Life. Recently, we brought out a new program on

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<v Speaker 1>my fitness program called Back to Basics, and we did

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<v Speaker 1>a food one and we did a fitness one, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is really simple ten minute workouts, how to do

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<v Speaker 1>very basic shopping, how to cook recipes with four to

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<v Speaker 1>five ingredients. And it was a real eye opener to

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<v Speaker 1>how well received it was because we're not talking. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not about going from a seven to ten. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>going from a three to a six. And really, when

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<v Speaker 1>you think of the state that we're in as a

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<v Speaker 1>country from a health perspective, most of us probably are

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<v Speaker 1>in the three to six category, and yet talking to

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<v Speaker 1>people at the seven to eight is probably not that

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<v Speaker 1>help for many many people. So today we're doing exactly that,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going back to Basics, and we're doing that with

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<v Speaker 1>someone who just makes so much sense when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to nutrition. We've got a wonderful dietitian coming into the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm going to help you fix you back.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've got a saw back, you need to improve

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<v Speaker 1>your posture, not the mindset. Great, so a bit hypocritical,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your guy. That's all coming up today in the

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<v Speaker 1>wood Life, So this is rare. We don't often get

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<v Speaker 1>repeat guests back on the wood Life, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>one of our favorites back sitting in front of me,

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<v Speaker 1>the wonderful Tim Crow, who is an advanced accredited practicing

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<v Speaker 1>dietitian who spent most of his career in the world

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<v Speaker 1>of universe and nutrition training and research. He now works

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<v Speaker 1>as a freelance health and medical writer and scientific consultant.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's anything you want to know about food, he's

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<v Speaker 1>your guy. Tim.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, Sam, I'm in rare a thank you very

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<v Speaker 2>much for the second invitation to come back. I must

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<v Speaker 2>have been Okama first.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. We like to spread you out

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<v Speaker 1>because we can't give too much Tim or that the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd will just laugh at mind, you know, but we

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<v Speaker 1>get more food questions than anything else. And I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>fitness guy much more than I'm a food guy. And

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that always jumps out at me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have to always remind myself of it, is just don't

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<v Speaker 1>assume that everybody understands nutrition. In fact, probably assume the opposite,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is so damn confusing. The science is great

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<v Speaker 1>and the education is great. And the history of these

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<v Speaker 1>challenges is wonderful. But sometimes it's just really refreshing and

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<v Speaker 1>nice and easy and fast to find out what should

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<v Speaker 1>I be eating? So I thought i'd get you in

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<v Speaker 1>Spring is here. What do you love about spring from

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<v Speaker 1>a food perspective? From what gives us energy? What seasonal?

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<v Speaker 1>What jumps out at you mate when springtime rolls around.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, spring it's obviously in the southern

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<v Speaker 2>hemisphere down here in Melbourne Way and in the southern

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<v Speaker 2>latitudes it gets warmer, the days get longer. We feel better,

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<v Speaker 2>we feel happier, and with that our foods start to

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<v Speaker 2>change a little bit. And one of the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>you notice is stone fruits, berries, all these things, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is the big signal for spring and summer.

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<v Speaker 1>And cherries on the side of the road in Tassie

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<v Speaker 1>you get a massive bag for ten bucks and you

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<v Speaker 1>make yourself sick. That's my happy childhood memories right there.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's spring. That's the start of the new season.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that we start hopefully changing our diets a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. We start eating some of these different foods.

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<v Speaker 2>We move from the winter foods into more of the

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<v Speaker 2>spring and summer foods. So yeah, I've mentioned the berries,

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<v Speaker 2>the stone fruits, but also things like broccoli, colifflower, tomato,

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<v Speaker 2>sweet potatoes. They are all seasonal to an extent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you're eating seasonally, there are three major big wins.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, they taste better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>They're better nutritionally. They're cheaper because they have picked at

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<v Speaker 2>the peak of ripeness, and they have less transport and

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<v Speaker 2>less storage that goes with them and joining them all local,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're great for the environment. They're cheaper, they're better

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<v Speaker 2>for your health. It's just wins all around.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no downside. Is that it's really interesting you say

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<v Speaker 1>they're seasonal, because because of the way foods can be

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<v Speaker 1>processed and kept these days, we sort of forget, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that you can't get a tomato or sweet

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<v Speaker 1>potato twelve months of the year. You know, they're there

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<v Speaker 1>all year round. So to actually have the knowledge or

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<v Speaker 1>have a little list of yep, they're there all year round,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is the peak season where I should be

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<v Speaker 1>having a higher volume of these foods in my diet,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is actually a really smart little strategy completely right.

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<v Speaker 2>We are living with the most abundant nutritious, healthy food

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<v Speaker 2>supply in the history of humankind. Today, just we can

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<v Speaker 2>get anything we want in the fresh produce department. We

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<v Speaker 2>have the choice it's going to go uber eats or

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to go out of seasoned fruit and vegetable.

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<v Speaker 2>So while we may argue and debate about nutritional merits

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<v Speaker 2>of seasonal versus non seasonal for the healthiest foods, the

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<v Speaker 2>fact is that always available, and research out only this

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<v Speaker 2>week from the CSIRO found that strain adults, only twenty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of us are eating enough vegetables to start with.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't argue and debate about nutrients of organic

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<v Speaker 2>versus not organic, and seasonal versus not not seasonal. Eat

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<v Speaker 2>more of them that will be doing. Just go seasonal.

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<v Speaker 2>That'll be.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little ten percent on top. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>source I like that I'd love to get from you,

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<v Speaker 1>being such a food expert. What are your favorite things

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<v Speaker 1>for brecky lunch and dinner. Can you reel off a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of things that you either in it from an

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<v Speaker 1>ingredient standpoint or a whole meal standpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>So for this time of the year, it is it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get into the berries. If I had to

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<v Speaker 2>choose one fruit that really deserves true superhero status would

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<v Speaker 2>be the berries. They are really awesome. Those different colors

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<v Speaker 2>of the reds and the blues are there because of

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<v Speaker 2>different pigments, different chemicals in their food, which do a

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<v Speaker 2>world of good for us to deal with our heart

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<v Speaker 2>health and our brain health. So really, the berries by

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<v Speaker 2>far some of the best fruits you're commuting.

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<v Speaker 1>And frozen fresh well, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing about frozen is that when their food's frozen, we

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<v Speaker 2>lose a small amount of nutrition, but most of it's

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<v Speaker 2>locked in, so it's a convenient option. And being a

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<v Speaker 2>research noted, we know that people that have more frozen

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<v Speaker 2>produce at home eat more fruit and vegetables, so they're

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<v Speaker 2>actually nutrition They are pretty good. Nothing beats what you

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<v Speaker 2>grow in your own garden, but frozen and even canned

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<v Speaker 2>is a pretty good backup option to supplement your diet

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's actually that's a great stat So that's proven

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<v Speaker 1>out those that eat frozen or put canned in that

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<v Speaker 1>same category actually eat more fruits and vegetables than those

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<v Speaker 1>that don't.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right if you just rely on fresh, which is fantastic,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you have fresh and frozen as a backup

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<v Speaker 2>for convenience. Overall on our re dule, ate more of

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<v Speaker 2>them and that's going to be a big health wind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like it. And what about lunches and dinners?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any any favorite pretty stable tuna, grains,

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<v Speaker 1>canned tuna, can tuna, yep, yeah, I love can tuna.

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<v Speaker 2>Convenient, quick, easy, simple. But the core principles of what

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy diet is is going to be most mostly plants.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you choose to, you can have some animal

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<v Speaker 2>foods in there, some dairy, some tuna, some red meat,

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<v Speaker 2>some chicken if you're so desire, But if you've got

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<v Speaker 2>the core of mostly plant foods and a variety of foods.

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<v Speaker 2>And the big win about seasonal produce is when you're

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<v Speaker 2>eating seasonally, you're increasing your variety over the course of

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<v Speaker 2>the year, and changing colors and changing seasons means in

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<v Speaker 2>changing nutrition and changing chemicals which are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>good for us overall. So it's way it just looks

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<v Speaker 2>for color. If you're eating more colors in a day

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<v Speaker 2>than you're doing, your health the world of good. So

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<v Speaker 2>long as those colors are not from skipples and m

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<v Speaker 2>and ms coming from the berries and fruits and vegetables

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<v Speaker 2>and so on. That is that's all you need to

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<v Speaker 2>know about nutrition, Just choose on colors.

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<v Speaker 1>And what about nuts, because I'm a nut nut.

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<v Speaker 2>They are all I mean, the nuts for the research

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<v Speaker 2>to do with nuts is pretty fantastic. They're actually good

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<v Speaker 2>for weight management, good.

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<v Speaker 1>Denting, calorie dent.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the fun fact about nuts. When you're eating them whole,

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<v Speaker 2>because we don't chew them fully, you actually don't, for

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<v Speaker 2>one of a better word, to absorb a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the fat from them, not fully, so they're not as

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<v Speaker 2>fattening as what we think they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Them.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're great. They're great, probably really good for your heart,

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<v Speaker 2>really good source of healthy fat. So they're great to include,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why they're in our dietary guidelines. When having

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<v Speaker 2>nuts every day. And if you ask me what's the

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<v Speaker 2>best nut, whatever one you're like, Brazil, cashiw mecademia, Well, nuts, they're.

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<v Speaker 1>All good them all. And they're not seasonal as much.

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<v Speaker 2>Not as nuts as much because they can they keep

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<v Speaker 2>quite a while.

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<v Speaker 1>What about energy, because I feel like we're all exhausted.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I don't know. I had to chat

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<v Speaker 1>with a couple of people at work there was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of post winter fatigue. You know, you're on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like every second person you know is in

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<v Speaker 1>the Greek Islands. It's not really true, but that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram does to you. You're you know, it's been these long,

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<v Speaker 1>short days, and I know spring naturally helps with longer

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<v Speaker 1>days and modern day daylight sunlight. But from a food perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any little energy hacks that you that

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<v Speaker 1>you like to prescribe to people?

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<v Speaker 2>So probably it's leveraging off I've already spoken about in spring,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when we're starting to see a change in the

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<v Speaker 2>food that's available to us. So making those sort of

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<v Speaker 2>choices in the warman, whether we're more like a bearding

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<v Speaker 2>outdoors yea, and things like snacks and things like that

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<v Speaker 2>work really well for this time of the year. So

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<v Speaker 2>because we're eating outside or doing more things outdoors, it

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<v Speaker 2>changes the sort of food we may take, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>compared to winter food. So there's no hacks, there's nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing complain, but just be focused a bit more on

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<v Speaker 2>going for some of those food swaps. I've spoken about

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<v Speaker 2>having more berries, Like for breakfast, you may have eggs,

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<v Speaker 2>but putting in some of the seasonal things such as

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<v Speaker 2>spinach and tomatoes with it will taste better, be better

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<v Speaker 2>for you. Yeah, and just having more snacks for the go.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've already mentioned nuts. They are pretty incredible foods

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<v Speaker 2>to be having dried fruit really convenient way to have

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<v Speaker 2>more fruit. All those are just simple things to be doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think complex, No, and it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know there's no silver bullet here. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I feel like my relationship with food is

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<v Speaker 1>better at this time of year. I don't not enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>my winter foods, but it's a bit more of a grind.

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<v Speaker 1>So something else that happens at this time of year.

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<v Speaker 1>And it might not be the start of spring necessarily,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be sort of any time in spring. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk to you about it is detoxes

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<v Speaker 1>because it's either I've got to repent for my winter

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<v Speaker 1>sins or I've got to undo the damage. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being extreme, but these are the terms I hear

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<v Speaker 1>from people, or it I need to get myself in

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<v Speaker 1>shape for some same things. So what kind of extreme

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<v Speaker 1>ten day, seven day, fourteen day, whatever it is, method

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<v Speaker 1>is going to help me with that? What is your

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<v Speaker 1>take on detoxes, the good, the bad, the ugly. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>So over my twenty years in the media, detox has

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<v Speaker 2>meaning that one topic I speak about, and it's always

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<v Speaker 2>in January. I don't know why that January maybe could

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<v Speaker 2>help me out year it's going on in January, it's

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<v Speaker 2>always detox. That the flippant approach is you just say, look,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we don't need a detox. We've got kidneys

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<v Speaker 2>and lungs that do this really well. All the detox

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<v Speaker 2>diet is it's a Marco Force cut out all these

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<v Speaker 2>food team. You're putting less rubbish in in the first place,

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<v Speaker 2>You're not getting rid of more rubbish to start with.

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<v Speaker 2>So it just gets you focused on eedting better. Whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's a one day detox, the five days seven day,

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<v Speaker 2>whether to rejuice fast.

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<v Speaker 1>What about them? What about those ones? What about you

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<v Speaker 1>know some of them are wacky, like some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty extrame lemon and water only for seven days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'll lose weight for sure, as.

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<v Speaker 1>Much fun as a car crashing.

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<v Speaker 2>Worse, they're not obviously not sustainable options. It's probably been

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<v Speaker 2>replaced a little bit with in a minute fasting that

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<v Speaker 2>really is hugely on trends, and that's sort of toxing

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<v Speaker 2>quite a bit because it's a different focus. I like

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<v Speaker 2>what I like about the minute fasting, even though the

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<v Speaker 2>oven says it's not better or worse for you for

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<v Speaker 2>weight loss, it's pretty pretty average. In the end, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not about what you eat. It's just when you don't eat,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when you eat well, you just eat healthy structure.

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<v Speaker 2>Do matic about cut out carbs, cut out this cut out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just extend the periods of time that you donate

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<v Speaker 2>and if it works for you, do it. If it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't do something else, there's nothing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Spectatul sustainable provided structure. It gives a snack less that

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<v Speaker 1>you might eat a few less calories exactly, Those late

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<v Speaker 1>night snackings and those in danger times are probably cut

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<v Speaker 1>out exactly. It's common sense when you boil it down.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just beautifully packaged.

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<v Speaker 2>It's mad and I love it because a book about

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<v Speaker 2>detoxing is a very short read. There's no extensive recipe section.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just about different protocols, and in the end, there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's no one right way of doing whatever works for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll be leaning to more intimateute fasting than there's

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<v Speaker 2>the detox is just jump in there and go hard

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<v Speaker 2>on a juice cleans for a couple of days. It

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<v Speaker 2>does very little to educate you about healthy food choices.

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<v Speaker 2>But the only positive thing about a detox it may

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<v Speaker 2>get you focused on making a shift from having a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty crap diet to eating better and that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not a purge for all of your sins

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<v Speaker 2>over the last one or two years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really good point. I share a very similar view.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if it's for a couple of days as

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<v Speaker 1>the catalyst or the kick in the pants that they needed,

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<v Speaker 1>sure do it. Yep. What I have very rarely have

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen is people that do it for a long

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<v Speaker 1>period of time then transition well into good sustainable eating.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It's normally celebrated with seventy two beers and a partner,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of I've just done done every bit

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<v Speaker 1>of good work that you've put yourself through over five

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<v Speaker 1>year days of torture, and it doesn't give them the

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<v Speaker 1>results or at stack up. It's not the answer at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you've got the more the expensive ones that

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<v Speaker 2>I've have all sorts of pills and patients and so

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<v Speaker 2>ons to go with it. So I look, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to detox to it for one or two days,

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<v Speaker 2>if it makes you concentrating better for the next stage,

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<v Speaker 2>that's great. But I'll be leaning to maybe a short

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<v Speaker 2>fast as a better option.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Give that a go. And you know it's more of

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<v Speaker 2>a sustainable thing if it works for you. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the end, if it works for you, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just be a healthier Yeah. I know, it sounds so simple,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it. What about budget hacks or money saving hacks,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, food has never been more expensive, Inflation

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<v Speaker 1>has never been worse, cost of living in general has

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<v Speaker 1>never been worse, or not not. I mean it probably has,

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<v Speaker 1>but not really in my adult lifetime that I can

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<v Speaker 1>think of. And I get I guess I'm probably right

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<v Speaker 1>in it now and getting more questions about it than

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<v Speaker 1>ever from my community. What are your top tips on

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<v Speaker 1>without compromising taste, without compromising nutrition, How we can help

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<v Speaker 1>the bank balance a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>The good news is I've covered half of them already.

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<v Speaker 2>Seasonal produce and canned and frozen is perfectly healthy and nutritious,

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<v Speaker 2>and it can be a lot cheaper, and they.

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<v Speaker 1>Do get sort of their nose turned up. It's particularly canned.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big myth. Yeah, nutrition, it's pretty it's just

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<v Speaker 2>seems that it's not going to be as good as

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<v Speaker 2>fresh fruit food. But what we consider fresh produce has

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<v Speaker 2>been picked somewhere and transported and sat on a showful

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<v Speaker 2>little period of time. Then it makes it to our home,

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<v Speaker 2>sits in the vegetable crisper for a couple of days,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we eat it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we lose some nutrio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a garden.

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<v Speaker 1>The home run, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>So I say, don't fight it. The research is pretty

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<v Speaker 2>clear nutritionally canned and frozen is nutritionally just as almost

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<v Speaker 2>as good as what we consider true fresh produce from

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<v Speaker 2>green gracer that certainly will be cheaper. And the young

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<v Speaker 2>sung heroes for nutrition the world iver and they're incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>unloved foods. They're legames. They are incredible source of protein, carbohydrates,

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<v Speaker 2>Flight of the Middles, so few of them. They are dry,

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<v Speaker 2>and they are tools dirt cheap, absolute dirt cheap. And

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<v Speaker 2>for the bang for the buck you get for nutrition,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing beats legames and for your health benefits they are

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<v Speaker 2>way up. They are a true superfood. And yet if

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<v Speaker 2>I may be boring, even a cannon baked beans, that

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<v Speaker 2>counts as.

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<v Speaker 1>My cheapest best lunch. And I have this if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>working out of my gym. Is one of those microwave

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<v Speaker 1>Besmarti rices, A can of tuna and a mixed a

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<v Speaker 1>little bean mixed in those tiny little tins with a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about mcvinegar on top. Probably costs two dollars fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Legams love it? Are they seasonal? Like? Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>better legam in spring or something that we should be

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<v Speaker 1>looking out for. I actually have no idea about legumes.

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<v Speaker 1>Legims would be one of my topics, so please enlightenment.

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<v Speaker 2>Legs, lentils, chickpeas, chi chi, kidney kidney beans. It is

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<v Speaker 2>about about a dozen of them. They are mostly dried

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<v Speaker 2>and they are all around and just get them off

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<v Speaker 2>the shelf, or you can get them canned. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>not really seasonal because they're always available. They store really well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's why they've been supplement and they're the only

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<v Speaker 2>food that appeared twice in the Ditchy guidelines. Are both

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<v Speaker 2>a vegetable and a protein food. There is your fun

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<v Speaker 2>fact for the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love that I think with food,

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<v Speaker 1>but probably think too small picture, like we're so hell

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<v Speaker 1>bent on variety in this in each individual day, variety

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<v Speaker 1>in each individual week, which is great in principle, but

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<v Speaker 1>it gets very expensive and a lot to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes your head hurt actually doing variety on a seasonal,

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<v Speaker 1>quarterly basis, And yeah, okay, well across a year, I

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<v Speaker 1>have wonderful variety is actually such a much simpler, better

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<v Speaker 1>way to think of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a mono eater, yeah, because I'm a bit repellient too,

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<v Speaker 2>And okay, it makes life simpler.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, and and then I get guilty, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've probably had the same lunch three days

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<v Speaker 1>in a row here where it whereas a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Then in come spring, I'm going to shake the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing up. I probably won't need any of those foods

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<v Speaker 1>again for nine months, six months. So actually, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a really powerful thing to share with our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners that don't don't stress if you've had a similar

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<v Speaker 1>type lunch or breakfast for a couple of months in

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<v Speaker 1>a row. Now, now it's spring, let's shake things up

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<v Speaker 1>and do things differently. Yeah, I love that I'm get

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<v Speaker 1>one more question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>We've spoken a lot about the good anything bad that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to warn people on.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I rarely will talk about anything you do.

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<v Speaker 1>You do, yeah, which which I love. You're very positive.

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<v Speaker 2>I focus more on the positive. If you're eating more

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<v Speaker 2>of what I consider more healthier foods, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be eating less.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when we can eat generic and talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>ultra process foods and foods tine and added salt and

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<v Speaker 2>sugar and so on, that's a given most people know

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<v Speaker 2>about that. It's reinforcing. Here the foods that we know

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<v Speaker 2>are good for us. Ignore all the noise misinformation about

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<v Speaker 2>carbs are bad, grains are bad. Fruit's bad for you

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<v Speaker 2>because it contains too much sugar. That's all right. They

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<v Speaker 2>are all perfectly healthy foods to it. So I focus

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<v Speaker 2>on the positive message of these positive foods, not so

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<v Speaker 2>much on you know, the junk food and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>because we know about them.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is actually quite refreshing, isn't it nice to speak

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<v Speaker 1>to a nutrition expert and it's all about focusing on

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<v Speaker 1>what you're putting in rather than what you're cutting out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's more of a positive message that it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it is, and I think it's a great, a

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<v Speaker 1>great message.

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<v Speaker 2>To finish on fantastic thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really interesting jetting to Tim because he just

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. He's really good with common sense. As my

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<v Speaker 1>dad says, common sense is not that common, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is great to I just think cut through all the bs,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel calmer after I talk to Tim, because

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<v Speaker 1>food can be so overwhelming, even though I get confused

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<v Speaker 1>and overwhelmed by it, and I'm sure many of you

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<v Speaker 1>are listening, yep, absolutely so, distilling it down to its

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<v Speaker 1>simplest form, I think can be really really powerful, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just reminding us that it's not as scary or

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<v Speaker 1>as stressful or as overwhelming as perhaps sometimes it feels.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's ways that we can work around it by

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<v Speaker 1>just focusing on the basics and doing the basics well.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I'd say is too hard on yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I don't know. I think we assume everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else is eating it a ten out of ten or

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<v Speaker 1>better than us, or you know, it's very easy to

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<v Speaker 1>have guilt attached to when we have one bad meal

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<v Speaker 1>or we've got a little vice that's out. Kind of

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<v Speaker 1>go to life is to be lived and you need

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy yourself. If you eat pretty well most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, then you're actually doing better than most. So

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<v Speaker 1>the p word, oh dear posture. I do say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>one of my twenty eight videos that I'm as flexible

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<v Speaker 1>as a bathroom tied well, and that's kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>reputation I now have within the whole twenty hour community.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's true. I am getting a bit more flexible,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly through my life back and hamstrings, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>a long way to go. We have spoken about posture before.

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<v Speaker 1>We spoke about it specifically with what was it called

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<v Speaker 1>technic where your head protrudes forward because you spend so

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<v Speaker 1>much time either looking at your phone or looking at

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<v Speaker 1>your computer or driving or whatever it might be. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is a real thing, and it is a real

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<v Speaker 1>challenge of today's society with so much technology and sedentary lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is real, and I think it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>safe statement to say across the board, our posture is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely getting worse. So when I got this question come

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<v Speaker 1>through from Mitch, I thought, you know what, it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to talk posture.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Sam, been seeing a lot about posture braces, just

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<v Speaker 2>wondering if they work, and if they're worth dropping some

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<v Speaker 2>money on.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is not Sam the expert, this

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<v Speaker 1>is Sam the opinion. I feel like there's probably some

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<v Speaker 1>good ones out there if you have severe posture issues

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<v Speaker 1>or you're recovering from an accident, that are medically sound

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<v Speaker 1>and do a wonderful job and serve a great purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's the next rung down of Instagram advertising

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<v Speaker 1>crap that is probably just a bit of a scam

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<v Speaker 1>to sell you something that you don't really need. An

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<v Speaker 1>example of one of these things that I thought was

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe I'm wrong. So if there's people out there

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<v Speaker 1>that have used these braces with great success, I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to hear from you. I mean, it is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>when you go to the physio and you get strapped

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just a reminder for when your shoulder blades

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<v Speaker 1>sort of coming forward or when your head's coming forward

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<v Speaker 1>that the tape sort of pulls, and it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that actually is quite powerful to have a queue that

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<v Speaker 1>jogs your memory that you're going into poor posture and

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<v Speaker 1>it sort of pulls your back. Often we don't realize

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<v Speaker 1>you're im poor posture. We've been there for if not

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<v Speaker 1>minutes hours, So I understand that that can be quite

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<v Speaker 1>a simple but effective method. It is interesting, though, you

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm being a bit of a cynic. But these

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<v Speaker 1>things that are on social media, you know, they blast

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<v Speaker 1>you with ads it what is that thing that being said?

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<v Speaker 1>I did buy one of those things, so I'm digressing.

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<v Speaker 1>He has got nothing to do with posture. I bought

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<v Speaker 1>a toe spacer, which is those funny little webbed rubber

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<v Speaker 1>things that you put between your times and it is

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<v Speaker 1>bloody amazing. So maybe I'm wrong on the braces. We

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<v Speaker 1>really are. Sorry, Mitch, this is this is the worst

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<v Speaker 1>answer to your question, mate, but I sort of that's

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<v Speaker 1>my gut feel. My gut feel with your question is

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<v Speaker 1>there's probably some need. But if you're just thinking a

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<v Speaker 1>posture could be a little bit better, I really need

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things. I'm going to get into how

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually improve your posture in a second, in

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<v Speaker 1>much simpler ways, I believe. But these toe space of things,

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<v Speaker 1>if you get sore feet, or you like training bare feet,

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<v Speaker 1>or you run a lot and you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>feeding an squashing your shoes, couldn't recommend them more highly.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's lots of different brands out there. I

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<v Speaker 1>think mam is just called a toe spacer. Anyway, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them, they came in the mail. Snays absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>is repulsed by it. She thinks it's the grossest thing

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen, because I'm walking around the house like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an avatar. But it's cool and they work and

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<v Speaker 1>they're great. But anyway, so there's a little by the

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<v Speaker 1>bye fixing our back posture. However, I think it's three things.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's sort of the shape of our spine

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<v Speaker 1>and actually changing. Typically we sway too much through our

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<v Speaker 1>lower back, and we arch or around too much through

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<v Speaker 1>our upper back. So if you side on your S

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<v Speaker 1>is too pronounced, a nice subtle S or subtle S

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<v Speaker 1>curve is what you want. Little arch in your lower back,

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<v Speaker 1>round in your upper back, not a big one. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a big one on your head's recruiting forward

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<v Speaker 1>or you've got a big arch in your lower back,

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<v Speaker 1>then your hips are really tight and you get lower

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<v Speaker 1>back pain. So once you know where you sort of stand,

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<v Speaker 1>then you've got to go, well, how do I fix that?

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<v Speaker 1>So typically, if you try to get yours less pronounced,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get on the phone roller across your

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder blades to open up your upper back so it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't round. You actually go backwards against the way that

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<v Speaker 1>your poor posture is probably sending you, and slowly but

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<v Speaker 1>surely you open up your vertebra, you open up your spine.

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<v Speaker 1>The other way, you want to stretch your peck muscles,

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<v Speaker 1>your chest muscles, because if they're really short and tight

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<v Speaker 1>from doing lots of push ups or sitting at your

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<v Speaker 1>computer for long periods of time or driving, then you

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<v Speaker 1>need to stretch them. And you need to strengthen your

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<v Speaker 1>glutes so you can tuck your butt under. And you

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<v Speaker 1>need to strengthen your back muscles so you can hold

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<v Speaker 1>your shoulder blades back. So when I think of your question, Mitch,

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<v Speaker 1>sure maybe we get to brace stage, but I'd do

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<v Speaker 1>this first for three to six months. And the great

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<v Speaker 1>thing is you can kind of do these things every

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<v Speaker 1>day in sort of ten to fifteen minutes. Am I

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<v Speaker 1>doing some kind of row on a little band or

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<v Speaker 1>something where I'm strengthening my back muscles, particularly my upper

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<v Speaker 1>back muscles. If I'm doing that, I will hold my

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder blades back better. Am I then complimenting that with

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<v Speaker 1>a nice chest stretch so that my shoulders naturally go

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<v Speaker 1>back and they're not pulled forward and tight. And am

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<v Speaker 1>I getting on the foam roller to open up my

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<v Speaker 1>thoracic spine? And am I doing some kind of pelvic

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<v Speaker 1>tilt exercise where I tuck my butt under and squeeze

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<v Speaker 1>my butt Because even me sitting here in the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>studio now, if I'm in a big extended lumbar spine

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<v Speaker 1>so or a big curve in my lower back, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of load on my back when I do that.

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<v Speaker 1>If I tuck my butt under, all the pain, all

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<v Speaker 1>the load is alleviated. But most of us don't have

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<v Speaker 1>very good glute strength, and we don't and we're tight

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<v Speaker 1>through our hips, so to tuck our butt under becomes

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<v Speaker 1>quite difficult. So the reality is most of us, probably

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<v Speaker 1>eighty or ninety percent, would benefit from doing those things

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<v Speaker 1>every day. There might be one or two of them

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<v Speaker 1>that help you more than the others.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you get saw back, if you get a

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<v Speaker 3>saw back, if you feel like your hips are tight,

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<v Speaker 3>your peck muscles are tight, your back is a bit weak,

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<v Speaker 3>your posture, particularly that upper body posture.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely could do with some work. They're definitely the places

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<v Speaker 1>that I would start. There we go, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what today was? Today was just really refreshingly simple.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can all benefit from better posture and

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<v Speaker 1>we can all benefit from eating better. So hopefully you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening today and you're like, you know what, I got

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<v Speaker 1>one to three to five things out of that that

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<v Speaker 1>I can start implementing tomorrow and be better off for it,

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<v Speaker 1>Because really, that's what this show is all about. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm all about. Until next week, remember reach out

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