WEBVTT - Jam is my Jam

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Torber and coming up on today's show as she

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<v Speaker 1>binds addresses the most persistent rumor to ever follow her,

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<v Speaker 1>Megan Markle's lifestyle rebrand and Our Friday Debrief. But first,

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<v Speaker 1>Anna Paul's nonchalant return to social media has been marred

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<v Speaker 1>by fresh allegations from Mikayla Testa. Before we get into

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<v Speaker 1>those claims, Kate, how did Anna mark her return well?

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<v Speaker 1>She returned to TikTok by sharing three new videos, and

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<v Speaker 1>as we've come to expect from Anna, she hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>lying low at home. Instead, she's been jet setting around

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<v Speaker 1>the world. This time she was in La and in

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<v Speaker 1>the videos, Anna documented her day at a theme park

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<v Speaker 1>as well as a night out clubbing. Now, interestingly, in

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<v Speaker 1>those videos, Anna showed herself getting drunk, despite previously telling

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<v Speaker 1>her audience she didn't drink.

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<v Speaker 2>She seemed kind of different.

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<v Speaker 1>There was something I couldn't quite put my finger on.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to look in the comments section, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of followers said that her tone of voice was different.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't talking as childlife. Someone said her baby voice

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<v Speaker 1>was toned down, and when I saw that, I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, But she almost sounded sad as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I think it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she was almost second guessing how she was

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<v Speaker 1>meant to portray herself in the video because she has

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<v Speaker 1>been slammed so much. There was a notable absent tee

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<v Speaker 1>from her video, which was her brother Attis Paul. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people referred to him as he who must

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<v Speaker 1>not be named now. Her boyfriend Amrik, and some of

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<v Speaker 1>her American friends did make the cut in the VIDEOO Now,

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<v Speaker 1>while she was desperately trying to pretend like nothing had happened,

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<v Speaker 1>the commenters were there to remind her that things had

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<v Speaker 1>dramatically changed. Many people said they actually felt gaslit from

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<v Speaker 1>the video. Every second comment I saw was saying it

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<v Speaker 1>made me feel broke. Well, in that defense, how is

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<v Speaker 1>she supposed to make a return? She already put out

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<v Speaker 1>the video where she acknowledged Michayla's claims. Yes, we thought

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<v Speaker 1>that that video was a huge flop. But if I

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<v Speaker 1>was her publicist, I would have said, just return as normal, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>move on, like that's what anyone else would have done.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so awkward, though, because you could tell she

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to be extra relatable. At one point, she

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<v Speaker 1>showed herself sitting on the toilet struggling to find toilet paper.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this did not need to make the cart well.

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<v Speaker 1>On Wednesday, Michayla posted her first TikTok since her explosive

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<v Speaker 1>allegation video. It's hard to believe that was three weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the video, she referenced the tell All podcast

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<v Speaker 1>about the polls that she's currently producing.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what she said.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to wait until the podcast to release this

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<v Speaker 3>information because it's just so sad, sick and fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just am afraid that you guys aren't ready

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<v Speaker 3>to hear something like this because it's very bold, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's very dark and deep and disgusting. But I just

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<v Speaker 3>can't wait another minute to say it because it's genuinely

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<v Speaker 3>concerning me, considering the fact that she's just bought a

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<v Speaker 3>new bird and I'm talking about Anna Pool here.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why Michayla Testa is so successful on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>What a hook to drag people in. It's more exciting

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<v Speaker 1>than the hook about Anna Paul being the theme park.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, before we dive in further, we want to reiterate

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<v Speaker 1>that these are unsubstantiated allegations and we're just merely discussing them.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not saying that they're true, but we're just reporting

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<v Speaker 1>on what Michayla has said. Now, Mikayla went on to

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<v Speaker 1>allege that Anna mistreated her birds, leaving them to quote

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<v Speaker 1>rot in their cages. She backed up the claims by

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<v Speaker 1>saying it was all documented and she witnessed it herself

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<v Speaker 1>while living with Anna. Mikayla went on to claim that

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<v Speaker 1>Anna purchased a new bird every six months, and at

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<v Speaker 1>one stage had five of them. According to Mikayla, Anna's

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with the birds changed when she bought her hairless cats.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what she said when she bought those hairless cats.

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<v Speaker 3>I would hear her say, I can't wait for these

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<v Speaker 3>birds to die because it is hard having cats and

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<v Speaker 3>birds at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Michayla also went on to allege that the way Anna

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<v Speaker 1>had treated the birds made her sick to her stomach,

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<v Speaker 1>and that she was the only one in the family

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<v Speaker 1>to try and entertain them.

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<v Speaker 2>This is more of what she said.

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<v Speaker 3>She buys animals for content and then neglects them. We

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<v Speaker 3>know that we can see through.

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<v Speaker 2>The content now.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of timing, Mikayla said she felt compelled to

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<v Speaker 1>share the story after learning that Anna had purchased a

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<v Speaker 1>new bird following the death of her other bird, Quakesy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what she said, So.

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<v Speaker 3>We know the bird rotten in a cage this entire time.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, by the way, QUICKSI died.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't tell you guys, because I was so sad.

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<v Speaker 3>You weren't sad, Anna, You were not fucking sad.

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<v Speaker 2>You did not care about that bird.

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<v Speaker 3>And you didn't care about the rest of the birds

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<v Speaker 3>that you hired, because you had five of them, and

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<v Speaker 3>they all sat in cages and I entertained them. And

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<v Speaker 3>when I wasn't around, I know, for damn sure, nobody

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<v Speaker 3>fucking cared for them. Only your mother changed the bird

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<v Speaker 3>seat and the water every fricking week.

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<v Speaker 1>These are some pretty big allegations. It's quite interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>Mikayla also claimed that Addis's most recent ex girlfriend backed

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<v Speaker 1>up her allegations, saying she never saw the birds out

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<v Speaker 1>of their cages. Interesting that she is in correspondence with

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<v Speaker 1>Addis's latest ex as well. I wonder how the poles

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<v Speaker 1>would be feeling about this video because it was straight

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<v Speaker 1>off the back of Anna returning to TikTok. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>very clear from this TikTok that Mikayla is bringing out

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast basically air the poll's dirty laundry. Where do

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<v Speaker 1>we think Addis is? I mean, it sounds like he's

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<v Speaker 1>in hiding. Do you think he's gone on this trip

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<v Speaker 1>to La Oh? I reckon he's in la but he's

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<v Speaker 1>just not featuring in any of the videos. He's lying

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<v Speaker 1>low In terms of her podcast, I always thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was to slam the polls, and I am patiently waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>But Mikayla did say two weeks ago it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be out in a week. It's already late. When

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<v Speaker 1>do we think she's dropping? I reckon it's out late

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<v Speaker 1>because the lawyers would be having to look over it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Anna is yet to respond to the allegations Michayla made

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<v Speaker 1>about her treatment of the birds.

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<v Speaker 2>Will wait and see. I don't think she's going to

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<v Speaker 2>comment on anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. A lot of the comments on her new tiktoks

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<v Speaker 1>were about the birds. People were demanding an answer, why

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<v Speaker 1>can I feel another remix coming if she does comment

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<v Speaker 1>about it, lom of times I have that song that

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<v Speaker 1>remix in my head is crazy, okay. Megan Michael has

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<v Speaker 1>announced on Instagram that she's renaming her lifestyle brand after

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<v Speaker 1>an onslaught of criticism over the name and a string

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<v Speaker 1>of copyright issues. American Riviera Orchard will now be called

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<v Speaker 1>as Ever. The Duchess of Sussex. Has also dropped that

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<v Speaker 1>streaming giant Netflix aren't just a partner in her upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>lifestyle show, but also a new partner in her business

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<v Speaker 1>now Sophie. Meghan made the admission in a short.

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<v Speaker 2>Real shot in her backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so excited to see Meghan actually talking to

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<v Speaker 1>the camera in selfie mode. Maybe she listened to the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast a couple of weeks ago, because since she has

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<v Speaker 1>returned to Instagram, she has been dissed over her style

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<v Speaker 1>of posting, with critics saying that she's stuck in the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty tens and she hasn't adapted to the TikTok generation. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>her video did have some millennial elements to it. There

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<v Speaker 1>was quite a massive millennial pause at the start where

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<v Speaker 1>she was trying to work her camera and Prince Harry

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<v Speaker 1>was helping her. That's the bit that didn't really make

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<v Speaker 1>sense because, as I said, she was speaking to the

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<v Speaker 1>camera in selfie mode. But it did begin with the

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<v Speaker 1>Prince Harry saying it's recording, which didn't really make sense

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<v Speaker 1>because why would he turn the camera on if it

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<v Speaker 1>was in selfimus. It's not like it was on a tripod.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was happy to lap it all up.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a little shriek when I heard Harry in

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<v Speaker 1>the background.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that they dropped that in. It was obviously

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<v Speaker 1>strategic and I brought into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the little cameo. I want to see Prince

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<v Speaker 1>Harry wellby can and obviously there's been so many rumors

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<v Speaker 1>about the couple separating and this big divorce, so I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they like to include Harry where they can.

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<v Speaker 1>The funniest thing is so many people have been critiquing

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<v Speaker 1>this video and especially this opening sequence, and everyone's been saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you could tell they tried to be so nonchalant about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it came across that it was very much planned,

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<v Speaker 1>like let's feature Harry and then we'll have him passing

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<v Speaker 1>over the phone. Yeah. Well, she did cop some criticism

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<v Speaker 1>as well for the amount of edits that were in

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<v Speaker 1>this video because people said that she was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>appear authentic by speaking to the camera, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>clear she wasn't able to speak to the camera in

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<v Speaker 1>one take, so it kind of didn't feel as authentic

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<v Speaker 1>as I think she hoped it would. They watched TikTok like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you watch any of the big TikTok is like

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<v Speaker 1>India Clean, And when she did the announce about her

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<v Speaker 1>nose job, that was cut up so much because he

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<v Speaker 1>had to fit.

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<v Speaker 2>It into the minute.

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<v Speaker 1>And ah, yeah, I must be so used to watching

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<v Speaker 1>people on social media and YouTube because I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>notice the CODs at all. I loved that she was

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<v Speaker 1>very casual, so she was wearing just a white shirt

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<v Speaker 1>and jeans. She had very minimal makeup on, and her

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<v Speaker 1>hair was pulled back. And I think that that was

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<v Speaker 1>a strategy because she has been told that she's too

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<v Speaker 1>put together, you know, she she needed to be relaxed.

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<v Speaker 2>She was in her own environment at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, anytime she puts out a video, everyone is so quick,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Daily Mail to actually price all of the

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<v Speaker 1>items of clothing that she's wearing. I was like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a seven thousand dollar bracelet. This is her ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollar shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's dive.

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<v Speaker 1>Into Meghan's announcement because it was quite a big one,

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<v Speaker 1>and it appears that she has been under pressure to

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<v Speaker 1>reveal this rebrand because there's been news outlets who.

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<v Speaker 2>Have been threatening to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get in before her, and now that Megan is active

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<v Speaker 1>on her socials, it's really a way for her to

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<v Speaker 1>get in first and to try to control the narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's throw to what Meghan said, Cat's out of the bag.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm shocked we've kept this a secret for so long.

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<v Speaker 5>In two weeks, my show is coming out, which I'm

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<v Speaker 5>so excited for, and also my business, which I think

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<v Speaker 5>there's been a lot of curiosity about. And last year

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<v Speaker 5>I had thought, you know what American reviewer that sounds

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<v Speaker 5>like such a great name. It's my neighborhood. It's a

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<v Speaker 5>nickname for Santa Barbara. But it limited me to things

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<v Speaker 5>that were just manufactured and grown in this area. Then

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<v Speaker 5>Netflix came on not just as my partner in the show,

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<v Speaker 5>but as my partner in my business, which was huge

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<v Speaker 5>as I thought about it, and I've been waiting for

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<v Speaker 5>a moment to share a name that I had secured

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty twenty two, and this is the moment. And

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<v Speaker 5>it's called as Ever. As Ever essentially means as it's

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<v Speaker 5>always been. And if you followed me since twenty fourteen

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<v Speaker 5>with the TIG, you know I've always loved cooking and

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<v Speaker 5>crafting and gardening. This is what I do and I

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<v Speaker 5>haven't been able to share it with you in the

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<v Speaker 5>same way for the past few years, but now I can.

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<v Speaker 6>So as things are starting to trickle out there, I

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<v Speaker 6>wanted you to hear it from me first. Of course,

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<v Speaker 6>course there will be fruit preserves. I think we're all

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<v Speaker 6>clear at this point that jam is my jam. But

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<v Speaker 6>there's so many more products that I just love that

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<v Speaker 6>I use in my home, and now it's time to

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<v Speaker 6>share it with you. So I can't wait for you

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<v Speaker 6>to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a lot to dissect there. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk first about the rebrand. As we heard Megan said

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<v Speaker 1>that the name American Riviera Orchard limited her to only

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<v Speaker 1>selling products that originated in Santa Barbara, So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>they made the decision to rebrand to as Ever, which

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<v Speaker 1>I personally think is a way better name anyway, it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gave me fairytale vibes, which originally when she

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<v Speaker 1>started dating Prince Harry, everyone was like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a fairy princess. And she said that she has

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<v Speaker 1>actually had the name as Ever in the pipeline since

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, and it's how she has signed off

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<v Speaker 1>on all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of her Instagram posts.

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<v Speaker 1>You would also assume that maybe this is how she

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<v Speaker 1>signs off her personal correspondence, whether it's emails to stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So it seems to be well, it seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>a term that she actually uses and is authentic to her.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a lot of people on TikTok just how

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<v Speaker 1>twatty the name was, like as Ever and it has

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<v Speaker 1>a real americanism. Yeah, I mean it's a very earnest

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<v Speaker 1>type of term. I thought her Netflix show would have

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<v Speaker 1>the same name. But With Love is actually Hillary Duff's

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<v Speaker 1>perfume brand. Maybe it was already. We don't want Hillary

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<v Speaker 1>coming out and adding to her lawsuits. Well, if you

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, though, as Ever and with Love are

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<v Speaker 1>both as to sign off, so they sort of both

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<v Speaker 1>pair together.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a far better name than American riviera orchard. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't particularly roll off the top. Now, what Megan

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<v Speaker 1>didn't touch on in this video was the copyright issues

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<v Speaker 1>that she's been having with the name American Riviera Orchard.

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<v Speaker 1>So the trademark was rejected last year, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>because you cannot have exclusive rights to the name of

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<v Speaker 1>a place, and American Riviera is a commonly used place

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<v Speaker 1>name to describe Santa Barbara, where she lives with Prince Harry.

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<v Speaker 1>There were also other food companies complaining that the name

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<v Speaker 1>was too similar to theirs, which is very common when

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrity comes out with a brand. I saw it

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<v Speaker 1>when Hailey Bieber released Rode. There were also complaints that

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<v Speaker 1>the o in the logo didn't look enough like a letter,

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<v Speaker 1>and people have said that Meghan has gaslighted her audience

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<v Speaker 1>by not actually acknowledging that there were issues with this name.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think the spin she put on it was

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<v Speaker 1>good because you have to be quite invested in Meghan

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<v Speaker 1>Markele to know that there were all of these trademark

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<v Speaker 1>issues and to be honest, who actually cares. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>personally didn't think that she needed to go into it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's already out there in the news. If she made

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<v Speaker 1>a point of commenting on the copyright issues during her video.

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<v Speaker 1>The media would have been more likely to lead with

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<v Speaker 1>that in their story about the rebrand. And I also

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<v Speaker 1>think that two things can be true at once. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she could have had all of these issues with the trademark,

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<v Speaker 1>but she also could have felt like this name was

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<v Speaker 1>more authentic to her.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she.

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<v Speaker 1>Copped a lot of backlash over the name American Riviera.

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<v Speaker 1>She's had a year to think about it. Maybe she thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck that this name is too difficult. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>any video she would have put out would have been

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<v Speaker 1>torn to shreds, and any decision she had made in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of what to mention and what to leave out well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think also if she had complained that she wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>able to get the copyright, it would be like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she's so entitled and she just complains and bitches and moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would have made it more of an issue saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't have even got their ducks in a row

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<v Speaker 1>before they released this. I did like in the video

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<v Speaker 1>that she referenced the Tig, which was her old lifestyle blog,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it was a really subtle way to

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<v Speaker 1>remind her audience that she has worked in the lifestyle

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<v Speaker 1>space before and she knows what she's doing. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people picked up that there was a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a dig that she wasn't able to share about her

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<v Speaker 1>love for crafting and gardening because of the Royal family.

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<v Speaker 1>People were saying it was a bit of a burn

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<v Speaker 1>to that. I think that the media is so quick

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<v Speaker 1>to label anything as some sort of burn towards the

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<v Speaker 1>Royal Family. She's probably just saying, look, I wasn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to share on socials, but I want to remind

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<v Speaker 1>you that these are all things that I genuinely and

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<v Speaker 1>authentically enjoyed doing. I really liked how she.

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<v Speaker 2>Joked in the video that jam is her jam and

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<v Speaker 2>other people didn't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I thought it was pretty cute because there's been

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<v Speaker 1>so many media reports saying when are we getting the jam?

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<v Speaker 2>And it makes sense as.

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<v Speaker 1>To why we haven't got our hands on the jam

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<v Speaker 1>yet because clearly there's been these issues with the name

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<v Speaker 1>and also her new partnership, and also the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they're waiting for the Netflix show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>She has already sent out American Riviera Orchard Jam to

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<v Speaker 1>her celebrity friends, which I'm sure are huge collector's items now.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine having one of these? Now they're all

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<v Speaker 1>just celebrities that have got them anyway, Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they'll be selling them on Facebook, Marketplace or anything now.

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<v Speaker 1>The rebrand has come just a few weeks before the

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<v Speaker 1>launch of Meghan's new Netflix series, and I was really

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<v Speaker 1>shocked to hear that Netflix was joining Meghan as a

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<v Speaker 1>partner on her new lifestyle brand, particularly because the media

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<v Speaker 1>has been reporting for quite some time now that Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>must be regretting it's one hundred million dollar contract with

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<v Speaker 1>the couple, and that story really picked up a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of traction after Harry's Polo documentary didn't do so well.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think this was a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>sweetener from Harry and Meghan to Netflix, because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people have been saying that Netflix definitely haven't gotten

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<v Speaker 1>back a very good return on the one hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>that they spent. Well potentially, but i'mis see it as

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<v Speaker 1>that Netflix can see huge potential in Meghan and her

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<v Speaker 1>brand and they want to take full advantage of what

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<v Speaker 1>people are calling the Megan Effect. Because whilst Meghan does

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of people who hate her, online, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're very vocal about that. She also has a huge

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<v Speaker 1>population of women who are obsessed with her and her style,

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<v Speaker 1>and this month that was reported that jewelry brand for

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<v Speaker 1>Lancia Keys had an eleven thousand percent spike in sales

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<v Speaker 1>after Meghan was spotted wearing their bracelet at the Invictus Games.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can only imagine how nuts people will go

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<v Speaker 1>for her own line of products.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think people are going to go crazy over

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<v Speaker 2>jam though, Well, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think it would be more the homewares that she's spooking

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<v Speaker 1>on her Netflix show. And when I first heard this,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Wow, why would Netflix be interested in

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<v Speaker 1>selling physical items? But actually, for a few years now,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a Netflix shop front, which is very similar

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<v Speaker 1>to the Amazon storefront where they sell products, So essentially

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<v Speaker 1>people can watch Megan's show and shop directly from it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, Oh, I like that photo frame that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually from her store, I can buy it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was totally unaware that Netflix had its own shop

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<v Speaker 1>front too, and I had a look, and they sell

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of merch for different TV shows. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>very tacky at the moment, So I really feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this partnership is going to be very mutually beneficial for

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<v Speaker 1>both parties because until now, I feel like hardly anyone

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<v Speaker 1>knew they had a shop front. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to really lift their game and be more

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<v Speaker 1>of a competitor for Amazon, seeing as they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have such a big brand like Megan's to sell. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that they can also make use of

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<v Speaker 1>affiliate links now, so I think there'll be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other celebrities wanting to get a taste of what

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<v Speaker 1>Megan is going to now. The media have heavily been

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<v Speaker 1>reporting on Megan's new website for as ever, because the

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<v Speaker 1>bat ground of the website does feature a photo of

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<v Speaker 1>Meghan and her daughter, Princess Lillabet. So they are running

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<v Speaker 1>across a grass field, and it is very rare to

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<v Speaker 1>see photos of Archie and Lila Bet. We haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>too much of them. I mean it is the back

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<v Speaker 1>of her head. We can see that she's got beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>ginger hair. I mean you can't really see much at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, is that Lilybet and tried to

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<v Speaker 1>zoom and it's just literally her hair. A few commentators

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<v Speaker 1>have said that we are seeing in real time the

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<v Speaker 1>modernization of Princess Labet and also Prince Archie.

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<v Speaker 2>Because this is the first.

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<v Speaker 1>Time that we are seeing Royal kids doing seemingly normal

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<v Speaker 1>things with their parents on Instagram, but areing normal clothes

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't in front of a paparazzi where it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if we walk past you on our snow trip, can

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<v Speaker 1>you fuck off and not take photos of us? It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually the parents putting them forward. On Valentine's Day, Meghan

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<v Speaker 1>actually featured Archie in one of her Instagram stories. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we only really saw the back of his head,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was cutting up strawberries in the shape of

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<v Speaker 1>hearts to make a little treat for the kids to eat,

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<v Speaker 1>and they really excited and they were running around there

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<v Speaker 1>were just acting.

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<v Speaker 2>Like normal kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I am somewhat surprised the kids have made a feature,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly because it is around Meghan pushing her new lifestyle brand,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly when the couple left the Royal family and said

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<v Speaker 1>that they wanted privacy for their children and for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a headline which said privacy loving Harry and

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<v Speaker 1>Meghan used little bit in a lifestyle campaign. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>I think is different is because this is their business,

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<v Speaker 1>which they have control over they were worried about the

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<v Speaker 1>media invading their children's privacy. It's different if they can

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<v Speaker 1>control what's been put out of.

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<v Speaker 2>Their it's difference if they can make a dollar off.

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<v Speaker 2>Its not what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>They have control over what they show of their kids.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, it was the back of her head. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but by sharing vision of their children, they are whipping

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<v Speaker 1>up media frenzy who want to them take photos of them.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're giving my profile.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's releasing a lifestyle brand. Is she's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>pretend that she's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a mum.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't get over how much backlash Meghan has

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<v Speaker 1>copped over this because she's not the first royal if

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<v Speaker 1>you look back to actually try and release different products.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, remember Fergie.

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<v Speaker 1>She had her Weight Watchers campaign. Yeah, she was the

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<v Speaker 1>voiceover in Budgie The Help, she wrote it. They were

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<v Speaker 1>her books. Oh pull was gonna say. She's also written

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<v Speaker 1>a whole load of other children's books. Unfortunately, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>is that once these people leave the royal family and

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<v Speaker 1>the protection of the royal family and the money they get,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to go out and make their own money.

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<v Speaker 1>And everyone's shocked, but also she's only in her early forties.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a woman who had a very successful acting career.

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<v Speaker 1>She was in an incredible show, Suits Kate, which we're

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<v Speaker 1>watching at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't she do better? Why can't she want to

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<v Speaker 2>do more?

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<v Speaker 1>Since she's left the royal family, we would have more

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<v Speaker 1>of an issue if she sat and lived off their

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<v Speaker 1>money for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Rest of her life.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen a lot of people saying that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is, but something about Meghan comes across

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<v Speaker 1>as being really insufferable. Like someone on TikTok said that

0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:56.280
<v Speaker 1>she just reminds her of this insufferable friend that's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit mean behind people's backs, but comes across as

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<v Speaker 1>sickly sweet. I've been thinking about it because Sophie, as

0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you preface, we have been watching Suits again. So when

0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I watched Megan Markle's video, I was like, oh my god,

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.359
<v Speaker 1>it's Rachel Zayne and I love the character of Rachel.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think there are a couple of camps of people.

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<v Speaker 1>There are the people that watch Suits and knew her

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<v Speaker 1>on that program and they feel like they've got a

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<v Speaker 1>connection with her, that are like, oh good on her.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's a people that are monicus and think

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<v Speaker 1>that she's ruined the royal family. And then there are

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<v Speaker 1>also boomer women who.

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<v Speaker 2>Just don't like her as well. I asked my.

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<v Speaker 1>Friend who used to live in the UK, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, what it comes down to is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people in England don't like her because Harry was

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<v Speaker 1>always their favorite and they feel like she has taken

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<v Speaker 1>Harry away from them. And I think it's also because

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<v Speaker 1>she does come across as being very American. If you

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<v Speaker 1>compare that to the way a lot of British people

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<v Speaker 1>act or talk, it's quite jarring to them.

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<v Speaker 7>As she always threatens her ex besties with legal action

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<v Speaker 7>during friendship breaksdowns. False never happened, No, no, and no.

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<v Speaker 1>It took fifteen years, but as she binds, has finally

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<v Speaker 1>dress the most persistent rumor that has followed her during

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<v Speaker 1>her time on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>In a recent.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode of her podcast, The og fitness Influencer denied that

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<v Speaker 1>she's ever silenced her former friends with gag orders.

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<v Speaker 2>Kate, can you tell us More?

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<v Speaker 1>This was a very juicy episode, so, alongside her co

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<v Speaker 1>host Tiana Bundalow, Ash answered listener's assumptions about her awkwardly.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of them had to do with Ashy's feud with

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<v Speaker 1>her former podcast co host Kiara Doro, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>her other high profile friendship breakdowns. Now, we covered this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast feud pretty extensively back in November last year, but Amy,

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<v Speaker 1>can you give listeners a quick refresher?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Ashy and Kiara hosted the Grow and Glow podcast

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<v Speaker 1>together for around two years, and they were even set

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<v Speaker 1>to launch a product together, but on the day of

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<v Speaker 1>the launch, they said there was a delay, and then

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<v Speaker 1>a week later they did the dirty unfollow of each

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<v Speaker 1>other on social media and announced Kiara was leaving the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast to focus on her family. Now, Kiara made it

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<v Speaker 1>on her socials that there was more to this story.

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<v Speaker 1>She posted cryptic quotes about friendship breakdowns and narcissusts, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as writing I can't say much because I'm already

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<v Speaker 1>losing so much and don't want to lose anymore, but

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<v Speaker 1>thank you you are also clever with a winking emoji.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this caused a lot of her followers to speculate

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<v Speaker 1>that Kiara had allegedly been hit with a gag order,

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<v Speaker 1>as ash has a bit of a reputation for allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>sending cease and desist letters now as she went into

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<v Speaker 1>damage control in the podcast facebook page, saying she was

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<v Speaker 1>shocked by Kiara's behavior, and a few weeks later, Kiara

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<v Speaker 1>shared on her Instagram story that she was dining with

0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Ashi's former high profile best friends Sammy Leo and Gretti

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<v Speaker 1>Rose such a fuck you Yeah, And in January, as

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<v Speaker 1>she relaunched the podcast under a new name called She

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<v Speaker 1>Rises with new bestie and co hosts Tiana Bundlow. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone is up to speed, I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the juicy details from this new podcast. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was really pleasantly surprised that as she actually answered a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of controversial questions, because I'm so used to influencers

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<v Speaker 1>asking their followers for questions and then they refuse to

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<v Speaker 1>answer any of the ones people actually want.

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<v Speaker 2>The answers to.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite color? No one cares get to the drama. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're shocked, like this one has just inundated my inbox.

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<v Speaker 1>Answer it yeah, and actually really didn't shy away. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what she said about the gag order rumor.

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<v Speaker 7>Why were people saying there was a gag order on others?

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<v Speaker 7>By the way, I don't believe it's true. So I think,

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<v Speaker 7>if you know, you know what this is about, can

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<v Speaker 7>I just clarify there was no gag orders or NDAs

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<v Speaker 7>or anything put on anyone, Yeah, any of my friendships,

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<v Speaker 7>anything that's happened. If anything, I've had one on me before,

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<v Speaker 7>I've had to sign one. That is a rumor that's

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<v Speaker 7>been floating around the internet for the last fucking fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 7>I have gag orders on people. Not true, completely false.

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<v Speaker 7>Everyone is free, yeah, to talk about what they want

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<v Speaker 7>to talk about, to say what they want to say.

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<v Speaker 7>I think some people will say that because maybe they

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<v Speaker 7>don't actually want to tell the true story. But there's

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<v Speaker 7>no gag orders. Yeah, So I can clear that up

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<v Speaker 7>once and for all.

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<v Speaker 1>Or whether ash does have a gag order on Kiara

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<v Speaker 1>or not, you can tell that Kiara is concerned about

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.400
<v Speaker 1>potentially defaming her. So that might be why she has

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<v Speaker 1>had such choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Work talking about as. I think it's really.

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<v Speaker 1>Important for Ashy to squash this rumor because it just

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be getting bigger and bigger and out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an ironic one, though, to say I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>gag orders out against people. But if she actually did

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like they could even respond. Yeah, And in

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<v Speaker 1>trying to shut down these rumors, she created another one

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<v Speaker 1>by saying that she had a gag order placed on her,

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<v Speaker 1>which has just led to further speculation. Yeah, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are speculating that it was from Emily's Sky, again,

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 1>an unproven claim that has no factual basis. But you

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<v Speaker 1>would think if you're trying to shut all of these

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<v Speaker 1>rumors down, you wouldn't add that information In why did

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<v Speaker 1>I just get Lindsay Lohan's rumor song in my head? Well,

0:24:55.080 --> 0:25:00.880
<v Speaker 1>another highly anticipated question, as she answered, was this, as

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 1>she gets bored of friends and moves on quickly when

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<v Speaker 1>she finds someone new and.

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<v Speaker 7>Shiny, Stephanie just rolled her. Hy Oh what a crazy assumption. Yeah,

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 7>that's why people don't realize. Is I still have the

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<v Speaker 7>core group of girlfriends I've had since I was a teenager.

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Now. This is a rumor that has long plagued as

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<v Speaker 1>she's since her high profile friendship breakdown with Sammy Leo,

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<v Speaker 1>Gretti Rose and Nat Roland, and it's one she's been

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<v Speaker 1>very defensive about. It's also one that Kiara has played

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<v Speaker 1>against her publicly by catching up with all of those

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>women now, as she went on to talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>formative her long term friendships are and then said.

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<v Speaker 7>This, However, there has been friendship breakdowns that have been

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<v Speaker 7>blasted all over the internet. So I can see why

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 7>people may think that, and I think this person may

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<v Speaker 7>be referring to you being the new podcast host and

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<v Speaker 7>a new friend of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>As she went on to say that she's always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be open to making new connections and reiterated it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't about getting bored with a friendship. It's when something

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<v Speaker 1>happens and she and the friend can't move past it,

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<v Speaker 1>all drift apart and the chapter closes. As. She also

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<v Speaker 1>went on to answer three separate assumption questions about her

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<v Speaker 1>former podcast co host Kiara Durrow So. The first was

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>an assumption about Kiara not being a good friend because

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>she didn't visit Ashy in hospital, so As she pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much shot this one down, saying she didn't think Kiara

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<v Speaker 1>was a bad friend for not visiting her. Now, another

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<v Speaker 1>assumption was that ash started drama with Kiara, which she denied.

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 1>She said she was supportive of Kiara's decision to leave

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast to spend more time with her family. And

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<v Speaker 1>insisted Kiara encouraged her to get a new podcast host

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<v Speaker 1>now as she's co host. Tiana was quick to jump

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<v Speaker 1>in and back Ashy up, saying it was so far

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<v Speaker 1>from the truth. As she then said.

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<v Speaker 7>This, you could literally interview our podcast producers, everyone involved,

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<v Speaker 7>and they would back that to the cows come home. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>that is total opposite.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The final question was in regard to Kiara's thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>the new podcast rebrand. So while as she said she

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't speak on her behalf, she said she hoped she

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<v Speaker 1>was happy for her. She went on to say she

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<v Speaker 1>could understand if she wasn't feeling good about the rebrand

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<v Speaker 1>because of jealousy. Do you know what this all demonstrates

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<v Speaker 1>to me is that Ashy is desperate for podcast downloads

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<v Speaker 1>because this goes against her whole branding of you know

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 1>person and rising above. She wants to weigh into the

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>weeds because clearly no one's been that excited by this

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>podcast rebrand. No one is listening, and she thinks, well, fuck,

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I actually need to talk about all of these controversial

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>issues to get any download? Does I actually honestly think

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 1>that people are buying this stuff? I tend to agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you, Sophia. I'm guessing the downloads aren't that good

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 1>because the other assumptions that as she touched on mostly

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 1>had to do with her sex life. There were questions

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<v Speaker 1>like are you bisexual? How many times do you have

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>sex with your husbands? It's like a great episode, like,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, finally someone actually answering the questions people,

0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>what are you here?

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going down the root of Steph Clears Smith and

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 1>Laura Henshaw's podcast, so that sort of shock value stuff

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that they can cut up on TikTok that will go viral.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's clever, But the thing is, I suppose

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you've got to work out how much of.

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<v Speaker 2>Your soul you want to bear in order for a

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<v Speaker 2>podcast to do well well.

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Kiara understandably wasn't too happy about Ashy's podcast episode, and

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>she defended herself on her Instagram story, writing, people must

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>be running out of things to talk about, because once

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<v Speaker 1>again I'm the hot topic life out loud. Don't believe

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>a word she said. Ask her to share the text

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<v Speaker 1>between my husband and hers. That will clear things up

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>real quick. If she has lost them, I've still got them. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I did ask to visit her in hospital multiple times,

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<v Speaker 1>and she declined because it was a quick turnaround. She

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<v Speaker 1>was in ICU so couldn't have visitors. Now Kiara wasn't

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 1>done there. She jumped on her stories and said.

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<v Speaker 4>This hopefully this is the last time I'm even having

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<v Speaker 4>to bring this up because I'm honestly so sick of

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 4>talking about this topic. I'm trying so hard, guys, to

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 4>move on, move forward and enjoin my life, like, not

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 4>bring anyone else down. Hence why I haven't. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 4>so hard to rise above it. But yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the day, I've got screenshots, I've

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 4>got what I need to show that I'm telling the truth.

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 4>But I'm trying to not make life harder for other people.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm going to keep going on with my life,

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<v Speaker 4>have a beautiful day, enjoy the rest of my week,

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<v Speaker 4>hopefully never have to talk about any of this again,

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 4>and I hope you guys have a beautiful day as well.

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 4>I remember you can always choose kindness. But also, yeah,

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 4>I won't let people talk about me and try to

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<v Speaker 4>bring me down without defending myself. So yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy to release screenshots if you really want me to,

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 4>but I don't think you would want me to, So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to be kind.

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to be nice.

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 4>Have a beautiful day, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That was almost a little subtle plug for Ash's podcast

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>because she referenced Rising Above It, which is the name

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>of her podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeahich, she did poke fun at that.

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>She wrote on her story rise above It all laugh

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 1>out loud, but honestly, time to walk the walk. I

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>for one, desperately want to see these screenshots she's referencing.

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>She did say her audience probably doesn't want her to

0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>show them. No, Kiara, you are completely wrong. People want

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>to show them. I think it's a bit of a

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>warning to actually, like, please keep my name out of

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>your mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you continue to talk about me on your podcast, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to start releasing stuff fairy Will Smith if you

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<v Speaker 1>amy that comm Yeah, let's get into our Friday debrief

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna kick us off. I have a recommendation

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>for you. I tried fairy Bread Hot Cross buns and

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I was on the fence about them. I'm like, I'm

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>just gonna pop them in the basket because I needed

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>to bump up our online shop I have no regrets.

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<v Speaker 2>They were so good. I've never seen them before. Is

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<v Speaker 2>this a new thing?

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<v Speaker 1>They were just from Woolies. I think they've been around

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<v Speaker 1>maybe for a year or so. Here they seem to

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>bring out a new flavor. I remember last Easter Ian

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Huey Hewitson, Yes, he launched on TikTok. I think his

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>granddaughter was helping him film and he did a taste

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 1>test of all of the different Hot Cross buns. It

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>was possibly the cutest thing I've ever seen see. I

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>normally like the fruitless ones because I'm not a massive

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>sultana fan and I'll put na tailer on there. But

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>these fairy bread ones, it were so good because I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a bit of white chocolate in them, and you

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<v Speaker 1>put them in the oven and then cut them in

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<v Speaker 1>half so that the bread is still soft in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Put butter on, and then they had a little packet

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<v Speaker 1>of one hundreds and thousand sprinkles as well. What Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bit of a fan of the Baker's Delight

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<v Speaker 1>sprinkled finger button, so this is definitely up my alley

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to try it well. I have been

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<v Speaker 1>dying to talk about a snippet I saw from Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>Nights episode of Married at First Sight. So for context,

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<v Speaker 1>contestants Ryan and Jackie were sitting on the couch and

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<v Speaker 1>they were having a debrief with the experts when this

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<v Speaker 1>happened down.

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<v Speaker 2>Now maths.

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<v Speaker 1>Fans were quick to share this clip across TikTok, with

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<v Speaker 1>many people questioning who farted on the couch and why

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<v Speaker 1>was it not edited out? I know, so a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people said, well, maybe it was Jackie saying mmm, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was it had to be a far and

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<v Speaker 1>it led the couch. Yeah, I think it was actually

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<v Speaker 1>lead the couch. It's also very amplified. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that fart was turned up. Did anyone actually say anything

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<v Speaker 1>about the far? There was nothing mentioned.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite comment on tik talk was someone who wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching it by myself and thought I farted.

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<v Speaker 1>This actually reminds me of years and years ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>was out for a meal with my ex boyfriend, so

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<v Speaker 1>his parents were in Europe and we'd been invited over

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<v Speaker 1>to his family friend's house for dinner. So this older couple,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd made him his favorite dessert, which was chocolate moose,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was actually helping himself to seconds of the

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<v Speaker 1>Chocolate Moose when we all heard an audible fart and

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<v Speaker 1>literally similar to Maths, no one said anything, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was so obvious that it was him, And we got

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<v Speaker 1>in the car and he said, gee, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>hid that pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, are you serious.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like when you hang out with grandparents

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<v Speaker 1>or elderly people and they get to that stage where

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<v Speaker 1>they just let out a fart now and then and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone just has to pretend it's not happened because they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard of themselves. I really feel like someone should

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<v Speaker 1>have taken ownership of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Fart or well.

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<v Speaker 1>Adrian, who's probably the most controversial groom on this year's series,

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<v Speaker 1>he actually waged in and wrote under the TikTok he

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<v Speaker 1>said that the cameraman did him dirty because they had

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<v Speaker 1>to him after the fart noise and he denied that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, whoever denied it usually supplied it, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who I believe. I also have a recommendation, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is for a new documentary which has dropped on

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix called American Murder Gabby Potito. Now, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>story of a twenty two year old American girl called

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<v Speaker 1>Gabby who embarked on a van trip with her boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Laundry. Now, they made headlines in twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>when he returned home, but she didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she have a YouTube channel documenting the trip as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Started her YouTube channel when they embarked on this trip

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<v Speaker 1>and she decided that she wanted to try and make

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<v Speaker 1>that her career. And in the documentary, it shows a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the behind the scenes of the filming because

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<v Speaker 1>they basically had access to all of her videos. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, and you would see a lot of moments

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<v Speaker 1>where there was tension between the couple and they were

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<v Speaker 1>arguing because Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't want her to do the channel. Did she have

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<v Speaker 2>many followers on them?

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<v Speaker 1>No, Well, what's really sad is she only released one

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<v Speaker 1>video and the video ended up getting millions and millions.

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<v Speaker 2>Of views basically after her murder.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was really sad because she was so keen

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<v Speaker 1>to make it a success and she would have never

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<v Speaker 1>known that it got all of the views.

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<v Speaker 2>For the reason that.

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<v Speaker 1>It did, my partner and I were absolutely glued.

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<v Speaker 2>It was riveting.

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<v Speaker 1>The documentary was cut up into episodes, so we Binge

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing in one night.

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<v Speaker 2>Many episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>There's three episodes. They're about an hour long. So we

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<v Speaker 1>did have quite a big night watching all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's that sort of show you I just we

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't turn it off. We just kept looking at each

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<v Speaker 1>other just saying, this is so sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Look enjoy that binging TV. Well you can, Yeah, I will,

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<v Speaker 2>I will.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. I think that is all we have time for today.

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