1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show as she 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: binds addresses the most persistent rumor to ever follow her, 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Megan Markle's lifestyle rebrand and Our Friday Debrief. But first, 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: Anna Paul's nonchalant return to social media has been marred 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: by fresh allegations from Mikayla Testa. Before we get into 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: those claims, Kate, how did Anna mark her return well? 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: She returned to TikTok by sharing three new videos, and 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: as we've come to expect from Anna, she hasn't been 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: lying low at home. Instead, she's been jet setting around 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: the world. This time she was in La and in 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: the videos, Anna documented her day at a theme park 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: as well as a night out clubbing. Now, interestingly, in 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: those videos, Anna showed herself getting drunk, despite previously telling 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: her audience she didn't drink. 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: She seemed kind of different. 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: There was something I couldn't quite put my finger on. 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: I had to look in the comments section, and a 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: lot of followers said that her tone of voice was different. 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: She wasn't talking as childlife. Someone said her baby voice 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: was toned down, and when I saw that, I was like, yeah, 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: you're right, But she almost sounded sad as well. 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I think it was. 25 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: I think she was almost second guessing how she was 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: meant to portray herself in the video because she has 27 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: been slammed so much. There was a notable absent tee 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: from her video, which was her brother Attis Paul. A 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: lot of people referred to him as he who must 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: not be named now. Her boyfriend Amrik, and some of 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: her American friends did make the cut in the VIDEOO Now, 32 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: while she was desperately trying to pretend like nothing had happened, 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: the commenters were there to remind her that things had 34 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: dramatically changed. Many people said they actually felt gaslit from 35 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: the video. Every second comment I saw was saying it 36 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: made me feel broke. Well, in that defense, how is 37 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: she supposed to make a return? She already put out 38 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: the video where she acknowledged Michayla's claims. Yes, we thought 39 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: that that video was a huge flop. But if I 40 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: was her publicist, I would have said, just return as normal, Yeah, 41 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: move on, like that's what anyone else would have done. 42 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: It was so awkward, though, because you could tell she 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: was trying to be extra relatable. At one point, she 44 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: showed herself sitting on the toilet struggling to find toilet paper. 45 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, this did not need to make the cart well. 46 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: On Wednesday, Michayla posted her first TikTok since her explosive 47 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: allegation video. It's hard to believe that was three weeks ago, 48 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: and in the video, she referenced the tell All podcast 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: about the polls that she's currently producing. 50 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: This is what she said. 51 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: I wanted to wait until the podcast to release this 52 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: information because it's just so sad, sick and fucked up. 53 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: And I just am afraid that you guys aren't ready 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: to hear something like this because it's very bold, and 55 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: it's very dark and deep and disgusting. But I just 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: can't wait another minute to say it because it's genuinely 57 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: concerning me, considering the fact that she's just bought a 58 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: new bird and I'm talking about Anna Pool here. 59 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: And this is why Michayla Testa is so successful on TikTok. 60 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: What a hook to drag people in. It's more exciting 61 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: than the hook about Anna Paul being the theme park. 62 00:02:58,840 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: Yes, very much. 63 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: Now, before we dive in further, we want to reiterate 64 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: that these are unsubstantiated allegations and we're just merely discussing them. 65 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: We're not saying that they're true, but we're just reporting 66 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: on what Michayla has said. Now, Mikayla went on to 67 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: allege that Anna mistreated her birds, leaving them to quote 68 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: rot in their cages. She backed up the claims by 69 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: saying it was all documented and she witnessed it herself 70 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: while living with Anna. Mikayla went on to claim that 71 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: Anna purchased a new bird every six months, and at 72 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: one stage had five of them. According to Mikayla, Anna's 73 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: relationship with the birds changed when she bought her hairless cats. 74 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: This is what she said when she bought those hairless cats. 75 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: I would hear her say, I can't wait for these 76 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: birds to die because it is hard having cats and 77 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: birds at the same time. 78 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: Michayla also went on to allege that the way Anna 79 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: had treated the birds made her sick to her stomach, 80 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: and that she was the only one in the family 81 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: to try and entertain them. 82 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: This is more of what she said. 83 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: She buys animals for content and then neglects them. We 84 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: know that we can see through. 85 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: The content now. 86 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: In terms of timing, Mikayla said she felt compelled to 87 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: share the story after learning that Anna had purchased a 88 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: new bird following the death of her other bird, Quakesy. 89 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: This is what she said, So. 90 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: We know the bird rotten in a cage this entire time. 91 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: She said, Oh my god. 92 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, QUICKSI died. 93 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: I didn't tell you guys, because I was so sad. 94 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: You weren't sad, Anna, You were not fucking sad. 95 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: You did not care about that bird. 96 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: And you didn't care about the rest of the birds 97 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: that you hired, because you had five of them, and 98 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: they all sat in cages and I entertained them. And 99 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 3: when I wasn't around, I know, for damn sure, nobody 100 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 3: fucking cared for them. Only your mother changed the bird 101 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: seat and the water every fricking week. 102 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: These are some pretty big allegations. It's quite interesting because 103 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: Mikayla also claimed that Addis's most recent ex girlfriend backed 104 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: up her allegations, saying she never saw the birds out 105 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: of their cages. Interesting that she is in correspondence with 106 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: Addis's latest ex as well. I wonder how the poles 107 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: would be feeling about this video because it was straight 108 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: off the back of Anna returning to TikTok. It's also 109 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: very clear from this TikTok that Mikayla is bringing out 110 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: this podcast basically air the poll's dirty laundry. Where do 111 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: we think Addis is? I mean, it sounds like he's 112 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: in hiding. Do you think he's gone on this trip 113 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: to La Oh? I reckon he's in la but he's 114 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: just not featuring in any of the videos. He's lying 115 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: low In terms of her podcast, I always thought it 116 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: was to slam the polls, and I am patiently waiting. 117 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: But Mikayla did say two weeks ago it was going 118 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: to be out in a week. It's already late. When 119 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: do we think she's dropping? I reckon it's out late 120 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: because the lawyers would be having to look over it now. 121 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: Anna is yet to respond to the allegations Michayla made 122 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: about her treatment of the birds. 123 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: Will wait and see. I don't think she's going to 124 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: comment on anything. 125 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: Well. A lot of the comments on her new tiktoks 126 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: were about the birds. People were demanding an answer, why 127 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: can I feel another remix coming if she does comment 128 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: about it, lom of times I have that song that 129 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: remix in my head is crazy, okay. Megan Michael has 130 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: announced on Instagram that she's renaming her lifestyle brand after 131 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: an onslaught of criticism over the name and a string 132 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: of copyright issues. American Riviera Orchard will now be called 133 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: as Ever. The Duchess of Sussex. Has also dropped that 134 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: streaming giant Netflix aren't just a partner in her upcoming 135 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: lifestyle show, but also a new partner in her business 136 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: now Sophie. Meghan made the admission in a short. 137 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: Real shot in her backyard. 138 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: I was so excited to see Meghan actually talking to 139 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: the camera in selfie mode. Maybe she listened to the 140 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: podcast a couple of weeks ago, because since she has 141 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: returned to Instagram, she has been dissed over her style 142 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: of posting, with critics saying that she's stuck in the 143 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: twenty tens and she hasn't adapted to the TikTok generation. Well, 144 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: her video did have some millennial elements to it. There 145 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: was quite a massive millennial pause at the start where 146 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: she was trying to work her camera and Prince Harry 147 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: was helping her. That's the bit that didn't really make 148 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: sense because, as I said, she was speaking to the 149 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: camera in selfie mode. But it did begin with the 150 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: Prince Harry saying it's recording, which didn't really make sense 151 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: because why would he turn the camera on if it 152 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: was in selfimus. It's not like it was on a tripod. 153 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I was happy to lap it all up. 154 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: I had a little shriek when I heard Harry in 155 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: the background. 156 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, I love it. 157 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: I love that they dropped that in. It was obviously 158 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: strategic and I brought into it. 159 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 4: Oh. 160 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 1: I love the little cameo. I want to see Prince 161 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: Harry wellby can and obviously there's been so many rumors 162 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: about the couple separating and this big divorce, so I 163 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: feel like they like to include Harry where they can. 164 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: The funniest thing is so many people have been critiquing 165 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: this video and especially this opening sequence, and everyone's been saying, 166 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: you could tell they tried to be so nonchalant about it, 167 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: but it came across that it was very much planned, 168 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: like let's feature Harry and then we'll have him passing 169 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: over the phone. Yeah. Well, she did cop some criticism 170 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: as well for the amount of edits that were in 171 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: this video because people said that she was trying to 172 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: appear authentic by speaking to the camera, but it was 173 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: clear she wasn't able to speak to the camera in 174 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: one take, so it kind of didn't feel as authentic 175 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: as I think she hoped it would. They watched TikTok like, yeah, 176 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: if you watch any of the big TikTok is like 177 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: India Clean, And when she did the announce about her 178 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: nose job, that was cut up so much because he 179 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: had to fit. 180 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: It into the minute. 181 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: And ah, yeah, I must be so used to watching 182 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: people on social media and YouTube because I didn't even 183 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: notice the CODs at all. I loved that she was 184 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: very casual, so she was wearing just a white shirt 185 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: and jeans. She had very minimal makeup on, and her 186 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: hair was pulled back. And I think that that was 187 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: a strategy because she has been told that she's too 188 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: put together, you know, she she needed to be relaxed. 189 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: She was in her own environment at home. 190 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 1: Well, anytime she puts out a video, everyone is so quick, 191 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: like the Daily Mail to actually price all of the 192 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: items of clothing that she's wearing. I was like, that's 193 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: a seven thousand dollar bracelet. This is her ten thousand 194 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: dollar shirt. 195 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: Now let's dive. 196 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: Into Meghan's announcement because it was quite a big one, 197 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: and it appears that she has been under pressure to 198 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: reveal this rebrand because there's been news outlets who. 199 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: Have been threatening to. 200 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: Get in before her, and now that Megan is active 201 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: on her socials, it's really a way for her to 202 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: get in first and to try to control the narrative. 203 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 2: Let's throw to what Meghan said, Cat's out of the bag. 204 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 5: I'm shocked we've kept this a secret for so long. 205 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 5: In two weeks, my show is coming out, which I'm 206 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 5: so excited for, and also my business, which I think 207 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 5: there's been a lot of curiosity about. And last year 208 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 5: I had thought, you know what American reviewer that sounds 209 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 5: like such a great name. It's my neighborhood. It's a 210 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 5: nickname for Santa Barbara. But it limited me to things 211 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 5: that were just manufactured and grown in this area. Then 212 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 5: Netflix came on not just as my partner in the show, 213 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 5: but as my partner in my business, which was huge 214 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 5: as I thought about it, and I've been waiting for 215 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 5: a moment to share a name that I had secured 216 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two, and this is the moment. And 217 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 5: it's called as Ever. As Ever essentially means as it's 218 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 5: always been. And if you followed me since twenty fourteen 219 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 5: with the TIG, you know I've always loved cooking and 220 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 5: crafting and gardening. This is what I do and I 221 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 5: haven't been able to share it with you in the 222 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 5: same way for the past few years, but now I can. 223 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 6: So as things are starting to trickle out there, I 224 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 6: wanted you to hear it from me first. Of course, 225 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 6: course there will be fruit preserves. I think we're all 226 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 6: clear at this point that jam is my jam. But 227 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 6: there's so many more products that I just love that 228 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 6: I use in my home, and now it's time to 229 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 6: share it with you. So I can't wait for you 230 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 6: to see it. 231 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: There is a lot to dissect there. I want to 232 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: talk first about the rebrand. As we heard Megan said 233 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: that the name American Riviera Orchard limited her to only 234 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: selling products that originated in Santa Barbara, So that's why 235 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: they made the decision to rebrand to as Ever, which 236 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: I personally think is a way better name anyway, it 237 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: kind of gave me fairytale vibes, which originally when she 238 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: started dating Prince Harry, everyone was like, oh my gosh, 239 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: she's a fairy princess. And she said that she has 240 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: actually had the name as Ever in the pipeline since 241 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and it's how she has signed off 242 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: on all. 243 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: Of her Instagram posts. 244 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: You would also assume that maybe this is how she 245 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: signs off her personal correspondence, whether it's emails to stuff. 246 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: So it seems to be well, it seems to be 247 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: a term that she actually uses and is authentic to her. 248 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people on TikTok just how 249 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: twatty the name was, like as Ever and it has 250 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: a real americanism. Yeah, I mean it's a very earnest 251 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: type of term. I thought her Netflix show would have 252 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: the same name. But With Love is actually Hillary Duff's 253 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: perfume brand. Maybe it was already. We don't want Hillary 254 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: coming out and adding to her lawsuits. Well, if you 255 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: think about it, though, as Ever and with Love are 256 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: both as to sign off, so they sort of both 257 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: pair together. 258 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: Quite nice. 259 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: It's a far better name than American riviera orchard. I mean, 260 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't particularly roll off the top. Now, what Megan 261 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: didn't touch on in this video was the copyright issues 262 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: that she's been having with the name American Riviera Orchard. 263 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: So the trademark was rejected last year, and that is 264 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: because you cannot have exclusive rights to the name of 265 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: a place, and American Riviera is a commonly used place 266 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: name to describe Santa Barbara, where she lives with Prince Harry. 267 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: There were also other food companies complaining that the name 268 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: was too similar to theirs, which is very common when 269 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: a celebrity comes out with a brand. I saw it 270 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: when Hailey Bieber released Rode. There were also complaints that 271 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: the o in the logo didn't look enough like a letter, 272 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: and people have said that Meghan has gaslighted her audience 273 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: by not actually acknowledging that there were issues with this name. 274 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: I actually think the spin she put on it was 275 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: good because you have to be quite invested in Meghan 276 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,119 Speaker 1: Markele to know that there were all of these trademark 277 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: issues and to be honest, who actually cares. Yeah, I 278 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: personally didn't think that she needed to go into it. 279 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: It's already out there in the news. If she made 280 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: a point of commenting on the copyright issues during her video. 281 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: The media would have been more likely to lead with 282 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: that in their story about the rebrand. And I also 283 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: think that two things can be true at once. Yes, 284 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: she could have had all of these issues with the trademark, 285 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: but she also could have felt like this name was 286 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: more authentic to her. 287 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: I mean, she. 288 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: Copped a lot of backlash over the name American Riviera. 289 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: She's had a year to think about it. Maybe she thought, well, 290 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: fuck that this name is too difficult. I just think 291 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: any video she would have put out would have been 292 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: torn to shreds, and any decision she had made in 293 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: terms of what to mention and what to leave out well. 294 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: I think also if she had complained that she wasn't 295 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: able to get the copyright, it would be like, Oh, 296 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: she's so entitled and she just complains and bitches and moment, 297 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: and they would have made it more of an issue saying, oh, 298 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: they couldn't have even got their ducks in a row 299 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: before they released this. I did like in the video 300 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: that she referenced the Tig, which was her old lifestyle blog, 301 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: because I think it was a really subtle way to 302 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: remind her audience that she has worked in the lifestyle 303 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: space before and she knows what she's doing. A lot 304 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: of people picked up that there was a bit of 305 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: a dig that she wasn't able to share about her 306 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: love for crafting and gardening because of the Royal family. 307 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: People were saying it was a bit of a burn 308 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: to that. I think that the media is so quick 309 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: to label anything as some sort of burn towards the 310 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: Royal Family. She's probably just saying, look, I wasn't actually 311 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: allowed to share on socials, but I want to remind 312 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 1: you that these are all things that I genuinely and 313 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: authentically enjoyed doing. I really liked how she. 314 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: Joked in the video that jam is her jam and 315 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: other people didn't like that. 316 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: Well, I thought it was pretty cute because there's been 317 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: so many media reports saying when are we getting the jam? 318 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: And it makes sense as. 319 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: To why we haven't got our hands on the jam 320 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: yet because clearly there's been these issues with the name 321 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: and also her new partnership, and also the fact that 322 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: they're waiting for the Netflix show. 323 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 324 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: She has already sent out American Riviera Orchard Jam to 325 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: her celebrity friends, which I'm sure are huge collector's items now. 326 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: Could you imagine having one of these? Now they're all 327 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: just celebrities that have got them anyway, Yeah, I don't 328 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: think they'll be selling them on Facebook, Marketplace or anything now. 329 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: The rebrand has come just a few weeks before the 330 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: launch of Meghan's new Netflix series, and I was really 331 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: shocked to hear that Netflix was joining Meghan as a 332 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: partner on her new lifestyle brand, particularly because the media 333 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: has been reporting for quite some time now that Netflix 334 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: must be regretting it's one hundred million dollar contract with 335 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: the couple, and that story really picked up a lot 336 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: of traction after Harry's Polo documentary didn't do so well. 337 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: Do you think this was a little bit of a 338 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: sweetener from Harry and Meghan to Netflix, because a lot 339 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: of people have been saying that Netflix definitely haven't gotten 340 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: back a very good return on the one hundred million 341 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: that they spent. Well potentially, but i'mis see it as 342 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: that Netflix can see huge potential in Meghan and her 343 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: brand and they want to take full advantage of what 344 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: people are calling the Megan Effect. Because whilst Meghan does 345 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of people who hate her, online, and 346 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: they're very vocal about that. She also has a huge 347 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: population of women who are obsessed with her and her style, 348 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: and this month that was reported that jewelry brand for 349 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: Lancia Keys had an eleven thousand percent spike in sales 350 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: after Meghan was spotted wearing their bracelet at the Invictus Games. 351 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: So you can only imagine how nuts people will go 352 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: for her own line of products. 353 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: Do you think people are going to go crazy over 354 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: jam though, Well, I. 355 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: Think it would be more the homewares that she's spooking 356 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: on her Netflix show. And when I first heard this, 357 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, why would Netflix be interested in 358 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: selling physical items? But actually, for a few years now, 359 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: they have a Netflix shop front, which is very similar 360 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: to the Amazon storefront where they sell products, So essentially 361 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: people can watch Megan's show and shop directly from it. 362 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: So I'm like, Oh, I like that photo frame that's 363 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: actually from her store, I can buy it. 364 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 365 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: I was totally unaware that Netflix had its own shop 366 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: front too, and I had a look, and they sell 367 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: a lot of merch for different TV shows. It's all 368 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: very tacky at the moment, So I really feel like 369 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: this partnership is going to be very mutually beneficial for 370 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: both parties because until now, I feel like hardly anyone 371 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: knew they had a shop front. And I think that 372 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: they're going to really lift their game and be more 373 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: of a competitor for Amazon, seeing as they're going to 374 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: have such a big brand like Megan's to sell. Yeah, 375 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: and the fact that they can also make use of 376 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: affiliate links now, so I think there'll be a lot 377 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: of other celebrities wanting to get a taste of what 378 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: Megan is going to now. The media have heavily been 379 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: reporting on Megan's new website for as ever, because the 380 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: bat ground of the website does feature a photo of 381 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: Meghan and her daughter, Princess Lillabet. So they are running 382 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: across a grass field, and it is very rare to 383 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: see photos of Archie and Lila Bet. We haven't seen 384 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: too much of them. I mean it is the back 385 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: of her head. We can see that she's got beautiful 386 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: ginger hair. I mean you can't really see much at all. 387 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, is that Lilybet and tried to 388 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: zoom and it's just literally her hair. A few commentators 389 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: have said that we are seeing in real time the 390 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: modernization of Princess Labet and also Prince Archie. 391 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: Because this is the first. 392 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: Time that we are seeing Royal kids doing seemingly normal 393 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: things with their parents on Instagram, but areing normal clothes 394 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: that aren't in front of a paparazzi where it's like, oh, 395 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: if we walk past you on our snow trip, can 396 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: you fuck off and not take photos of us? It's 397 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: actually the parents putting them forward. On Valentine's Day, Meghan 398 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: actually featured Archie in one of her Instagram stories. I 399 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: mean we only really saw the back of his head, 400 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: but she was cutting up strawberries in the shape of 401 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: hearts to make a little treat for the kids to eat, 402 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: and they really excited and they were running around there 403 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: were just acting. 404 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: Like normal kids. 405 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: I am somewhat surprised the kids have made a feature, 406 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: particularly because it is around Meghan pushing her new lifestyle brand, 407 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: particularly when the couple left the Royal family and said 408 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: that they wanted privacy for their children and for them. 409 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: I saw a headline which said privacy loving Harry and 410 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: Meghan used little bit in a lifestyle campaign. The reason 411 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: I think is different is because this is their business, 412 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: which they have control over they were worried about the 413 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: media invading their children's privacy. It's different if they can 414 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: control what's been put out of. 415 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: Their it's difference if they can make a dollar off. 416 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: Its not what I'm saying. 417 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: They have control over what they show of their kids. 418 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: For instance, it was the back of her head. Yeah, 419 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: but by sharing vision of their children, they are whipping 420 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: up media frenzy who want to them take photos of them. 421 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: But they're giving my profile. 422 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: But she's releasing a lifestyle brand. Is she's supposed to 423 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: pretend that she's. 424 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 2: Not a mum. 425 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: I just can't get over how much backlash Meghan has 426 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: copped over this because she's not the first royal if 427 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: you look back to actually try and release different products. 428 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: I mean, remember Fergie. 429 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: She had her Weight Watchers campaign. Yeah, she was the 430 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: voiceover in Budgie The Help, she wrote it. They were 431 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: her books. Oh pull was gonna say. She's also written 432 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: a whole load of other children's books. Unfortunately, the fact 433 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: is that once these people leave the royal family and 434 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: the protection of the royal family and the money they get, 435 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: they have to go out and make their own money. 436 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: And everyone's shocked, but also she's only in her early forties. 437 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: This is a woman who had a very successful acting career. 438 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: She was in an incredible show, Suits Kate, which we're 439 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: watching at the moment. 440 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: Why can't she do better? Why can't she want to 441 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: do more? 442 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: Since she's left the royal family, we would have more 443 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: of an issue if she sat and lived off their 444 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: money for the. 445 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: Rest of her life. 446 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people saying that they don't 447 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: know what it is, but something about Meghan comes across 448 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: as being really insufferable. Like someone on TikTok said that 449 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: she just reminds her of this insufferable friend that's a 450 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: little bit mean behind people's backs, but comes across as 451 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: sickly sweet. I've been thinking about it because Sophie, as 452 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: you preface, we have been watching Suits again. So when 453 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: I watched Megan Markle's video, I was like, oh my god, 454 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: it's Rachel Zayne and I love the character of Rachel. 455 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: So I think there are a couple of camps of people. 456 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: There are the people that watch Suits and knew her 457 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: on that program and they feel like they've got a 458 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: connection with her, that are like, oh good on her. 459 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: And then there's a people that are monicus and think 460 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: that she's ruined the royal family. And then there are 461 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: also boomer women who. 462 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: Just don't like her as well. I asked my. 463 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: Friend who used to live in the UK, and she 464 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: was saying, what it comes down to is a lot 465 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: of people in England don't like her because Harry was 466 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: always their favorite and they feel like she has taken 467 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: Harry away from them. And I think it's also because 468 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: she does come across as being very American. If you 469 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: compare that to the way a lot of British people 470 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: act or talk, it's quite jarring to them. 471 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 7: As she always threatens her ex besties with legal action 472 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 7: during friendship breaksdowns. False never happened, No, no, and no. 473 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: It took fifteen years, but as she binds, has finally 474 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: dress the most persistent rumor that has followed her during 475 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: her time on social media. 476 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: In a recent. 477 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: Episode of her podcast, The og fitness Influencer denied that 478 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: she's ever silenced her former friends with gag orders. 479 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: Kate, can you tell us More? 480 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: This was a very juicy episode, so, alongside her co 481 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: host Tiana Bundalow, Ash answered listener's assumptions about her awkwardly. 482 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: Most of them had to do with Ashy's feud with 483 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: her former podcast co host Kiara Doro, as well as 484 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: her other high profile friendship breakdowns. Now, we covered this 485 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: podcast feud pretty extensively back in November last year, but Amy, 486 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: can you give listeners a quick refresher? 487 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 488 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: So, Ashy and Kiara hosted the Grow and Glow podcast 489 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: together for around two years, and they were even set 490 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: to launch a product together, but on the day of 491 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: the launch, they said there was a delay, and then 492 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: a week later they did the dirty unfollow of each 493 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: other on social media and announced Kiara was leaving the 494 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: podcast to focus on her family. Now, Kiara made it 495 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: on her socials that there was more to this story. 496 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: She posted cryptic quotes about friendship breakdowns and narcissusts, as 497 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: well as writing I can't say much because I'm already 498 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: losing so much and don't want to lose anymore, but 499 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: thank you you are also clever with a winking emoji. 500 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: Now this caused a lot of her followers to speculate 501 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: that Kiara had allegedly been hit with a gag order, 502 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: as ash has a bit of a reputation for allegedly 503 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: sending cease and desist letters now as she went into 504 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: damage control in the podcast facebook page, saying she was 505 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: shocked by Kiara's behavior, and a few weeks later, Kiara 506 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: shared on her Instagram story that she was dining with 507 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: Ashi's former high profile best friends Sammy Leo and Gretti 508 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: Rose such a fuck you Yeah, And in January, as 509 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: she relaunched the podcast under a new name called She 510 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: Rises with new bestie and co hosts Tiana Bundlow. Now 511 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: that everyone is up to speed, I want to get 512 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: into the juicy details from this new podcast. And I 513 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: was really pleasantly surprised that as she actually answered a 514 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: bunch of controversial questions, because I'm so used to influencers 515 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: asking their followers for questions and then they refuse to 516 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: answer any of the ones people actually want. 517 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: The answers to. 518 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: What's your favorite color? No one cares get to the drama. Oh, 519 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: and they're shocked, like this one has just inundated my inbox. 520 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: Answer it yeah, and actually really didn't shy away. This 521 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: is what she said about the gag order rumor. 522 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 7: Why were people saying there was a gag order on others? 523 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 7: By the way, I don't believe it's true. So I think, 524 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 7: if you know, you know what this is about, can 525 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 7: I just clarify there was no gag orders or NDAs 526 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 7: or anything put on anyone, Yeah, any of my friendships, 527 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 7: anything that's happened. If anything, I've had one on me before, 528 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 7: I've had to sign one. That is a rumor that's 529 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 7: been floating around the internet for the last fucking fifteen years. 530 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 7: I have gag orders on people. Not true, completely false. 531 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 7: Everyone is free, yeah, to talk about what they want 532 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 7: to talk about, to say what they want to say. 533 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 7: I think some people will say that because maybe they 534 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 7: don't actually want to tell the true story. But there's 535 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 7: no gag orders. Yeah, So I can clear that up 536 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 7: once and for all. 537 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: Or whether ash does have a gag order on Kiara 538 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: or not, you can tell that Kiara is concerned about 539 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: potentially defaming her. So that might be why she has 540 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: had such choice. 541 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: Work talking about as. I think it's really. 542 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: Important for Ashy to squash this rumor because it just 543 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: seems to be getting bigger and bigger and out of control. 544 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: It's an ironic one, though, to say I don't have 545 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: gag orders out against people. But if she actually did 546 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: it's not like they could even respond. Yeah, And in 547 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: trying to shut down these rumors, she created another one 548 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: by saying that she had a gag order placed on her, 549 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: which has just led to further speculation. Yeah, a lot 550 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: of people are speculating that it was from Emily's Sky, again, 551 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: an unproven claim that has no factual basis. But you 552 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: would think if you're trying to shut all of these 553 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: rumors down, you wouldn't add that information In why did 554 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: I just get Lindsay Lohan's rumor song in my head? Well, 555 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: another highly anticipated question, as she answered, was this, as 556 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: she gets bored of friends and moves on quickly when 557 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: she finds someone new and. 558 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 7: Shiny, Stephanie just rolled her. Hy Oh what a crazy assumption. Yeah, 559 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 7: that's why people don't realize. Is I still have the 560 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 7: core group of girlfriends I've had since I was a teenager. 561 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: Now. This is a rumor that has long plagued as 562 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: she's since her high profile friendship breakdown with Sammy Leo, 563 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: Gretti Rose and Nat Roland, and it's one she's been 564 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: very defensive about. It's also one that Kiara has played 565 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: against her publicly by catching up with all of those 566 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: women now, as she went on to talk about how 567 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: formative her long term friendships are and then said. 568 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 7: This, However, there has been friendship breakdowns that have been 569 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 7: blasted all over the internet. So I can see why 570 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 7: people may think that, and I think this person may 571 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 7: be referring to you being the new podcast host and 572 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 7: a new friend of my life. 573 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: As she went on to say that she's always going 574 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: to be open to making new connections and reiterated it 575 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: wasn't about getting bored with a friendship. It's when something 576 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: happens and she and the friend can't move past it, 577 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: all drift apart and the chapter closes. As. She also 578 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: went on to answer three separate assumption questions about her 579 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: former podcast co host Kiara Durrow So. The first was 580 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: an assumption about Kiara not being a good friend because 581 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: she didn't visit Ashy in hospital, so As she pretty 582 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: much shot this one down, saying she didn't think Kiara 583 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: was a bad friend for not visiting her. Now, another 584 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: assumption was that ash started drama with Kiara, which she denied. 585 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: She said she was supportive of Kiara's decision to leave 586 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: the podcast to spend more time with her family. And 587 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: insisted Kiara encouraged her to get a new podcast host 588 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: now as she's co host. Tiana was quick to jump 589 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: in and back Ashy up, saying it was so far 590 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: from the truth. As she then said. 591 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 7: This, you could literally interview our podcast producers, everyone involved, 592 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 7: and they would back that to the cows come home. Yeah, yeah, 593 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 7: that is total opposite. 594 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 5: Now. 595 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: The final question was in regard to Kiara's thoughts on 596 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: the new podcast rebrand. So while as she said she 597 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: couldn't speak on her behalf, she said she hoped she 598 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: was happy for her. She went on to say she 599 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: could understand if she wasn't feeling good about the rebrand 600 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: because of jealousy. Do you know what this all demonstrates 601 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: to me is that Ashy is desperate for podcast downloads 602 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: because this goes against her whole branding of you know 603 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: person and rising above. She wants to weigh into the 604 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: weeds because clearly no one's been that excited by this 605 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: podcast rebrand. No one is listening, and she thinks, well, fuck, 606 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: I actually need to talk about all of these controversial 607 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: issues to get any download? Does I actually honestly think 608 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: that people are buying this stuff? I tend to agree 609 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: with you, Sophia. I'm guessing the downloads aren't that good 610 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: because the other assumptions that as she touched on mostly 611 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: had to do with her sex life. There were questions 612 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: like are you bisexual? How many times do you have 613 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: sex with your husbands? It's like a great episode, like, 614 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: as you said, finally someone actually answering the questions people, 615 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: what are you here? 616 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: It seems like. 617 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: They're going down the root of Steph Clears Smith and 618 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: Laura Henshaw's podcast, so that sort of shock value stuff 619 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: that they can cut up on TikTok that will go viral. 620 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's clever, But the thing is, I suppose 621 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: you've got to work out how much of. 622 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: Your soul you want to bear in order for a 623 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: podcast to do well well. 624 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: Kiara understandably wasn't too happy about Ashy's podcast episode, and 625 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: she defended herself on her Instagram story, writing, people must 626 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: be running out of things to talk about, because once 627 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: again I'm the hot topic life out loud. Don't believe 628 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: a word she said. Ask her to share the text 629 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: between my husband and hers. That will clear things up 630 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: real quick. If she has lost them, I've still got them. Also, 631 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: I did ask to visit her in hospital multiple times, 632 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: and she declined because it was a quick turnaround. She 633 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: was in ICU so couldn't have visitors. Now Kiara wasn't 634 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: done there. She jumped on her stories and said. 635 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 4: This hopefully this is the last time I'm even having 636 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: to bring this up because I'm honestly so sick of 637 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 4: talking about this topic. I'm trying so hard, guys, to 638 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 4: move on, move forward and enjoin my life, like, not 639 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 4: bring anyone else down. Hence why I haven't. I'm trying 640 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 4: so hard to rise above it. But yeah, I mean, 641 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I've got screenshots, I've 642 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 4: got what I need to show that I'm telling the truth. 643 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 4: But I'm trying to not make life harder for other people. 644 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 4: So I'm going to keep going on with my life, 645 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 4: have a beautiful day, enjoy the rest of my week, 646 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 4: hopefully never have to talk about any of this again, 647 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: and I hope you guys have a beautiful day as well. 648 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 4: I remember you can always choose kindness. But also, yeah, 649 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: I won't let people talk about me and try to 650 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 4: bring me down without defending myself. So yeah, I mean, 651 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 4: I'm happy to release screenshots if you really want me to, 652 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 4: but I don't think you would want me to, So 653 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 4: I'm trying to be kind. 654 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: I'm trying to be nice. 655 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 4: Have a beautiful day, guys. 656 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: That was almost a little subtle plug for Ash's podcast 657 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: because she referenced Rising Above It, which is the name 658 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: of her podcast. 659 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 2: Yeahich, she did poke fun at that. 660 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: She wrote on her story rise above It all laugh 661 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: out loud, but honestly, time to walk the walk. I 662 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: for one, desperately want to see these screenshots she's referencing. 663 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: She did say her audience probably doesn't want her to 664 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: show them. No, Kiara, you are completely wrong. People want 665 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: to show them. I think it's a bit of a 666 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: warning to actually, like, please keep my name out of 667 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: your mouth. 668 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: And if you continue to talk about me on your podcast, I'm. 669 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: Going to start releasing stuff fairy Will Smith if you 670 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: amy that comm Yeah, let's get into our Friday debrief 671 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna kick us off. I have a recommendation 672 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: for you. I tried fairy Bread Hot Cross buns and 673 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 1: I was on the fence about them. I'm like, I'm 674 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: just gonna pop them in the basket because I needed 675 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: to bump up our online shop I have no regrets. 676 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: They were so good. I've never seen them before. Is 677 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: this a new thing? 678 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: They were just from Woolies. I think they've been around 679 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: maybe for a year or so. Here they seem to 680 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: bring out a new flavor. I remember last Easter Ian 681 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: Huey Hewitson, Yes, he launched on TikTok. I think his 682 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: granddaughter was helping him film and he did a taste 683 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: test of all of the different Hot Cross buns. It 684 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: was possibly the cutest thing I've ever seen see. I 685 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: normally like the fruitless ones because I'm not a massive 686 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: sultana fan and I'll put na tailer on there. But 687 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: these fairy bread ones, it were so good because I've 688 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: got a bit of white chocolate in them, and you 689 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: put them in the oven and then cut them in 690 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: half so that the bread is still soft in the middle. 691 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: Put butter on, and then they had a little packet 692 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: of one hundreds and thousand sprinkles as well. What Yeah, 693 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: I'm a bit of a fan of the Baker's Delight 694 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: sprinkled finger button, so this is definitely up my alley 695 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: and I have to try it well. I have been 696 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 1: dying to talk about a snippet I saw from Sunday 697 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: Nights episode of Married at First Sight. So for context, 698 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: contestants Ryan and Jackie were sitting on the couch and 699 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: they were having a debrief with the experts when this 700 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: happened down. 701 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: Now maths. 702 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: Fans were quick to share this clip across TikTok, with 703 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: many people questioning who farted on the couch and why 704 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: was it not edited out? I know, so a lot 705 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: of people said, well, maybe it was Jackie saying mmm, no, 706 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: but it was it had to be a far and 707 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: it led the couch. Yeah, I think it was actually 708 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: lead the couch. It's also very amplified. I feel like 709 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: that fart was turned up. Did anyone actually say anything 710 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: about the far? There was nothing mentioned. 711 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: Now. 712 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: My favorite comment on tik talk was someone who wrote, 713 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: I was watching it by myself and thought I farted. 714 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: This actually reminds me of years and years ago. I 715 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: was out for a meal with my ex boyfriend, so 716 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: his parents were in Europe and we'd been invited over 717 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: to his family friend's house for dinner. So this older couple, 718 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: they'd made him his favorite dessert, which was chocolate moose, 719 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: and he was actually helping himself to seconds of the 720 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: Chocolate Moose when we all heard an audible fart and 721 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: literally similar to Maths, no one said anything, and it 722 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: was so obvious that it was him, And we got 723 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: in the car and he said, gee, I think I 724 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: hid that pretty well. 725 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: I was like, are you serious. 726 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: It's kind of like when you hang out with grandparents 727 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: or elderly people and they get to that stage where 728 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: they just let out a fart now and then and 729 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: everyone just has to pretend it's not happened because they 730 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: haven't heard of themselves. I really feel like someone should 731 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: have taken ownership of that. 732 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: Fart or well. 733 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: Adrian, who's probably the most controversial groom on this year's series, 734 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: he actually waged in and wrote under the TikTok he 735 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: said that the cameraman did him dirty because they had 736 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: to him after the fart noise and he denied that. 737 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 2: It was him. 738 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: Well, whoever denied it usually supplied it, so I don't 739 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: know who I believe. I also have a recommendation, and 740 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: it is for a new documentary which has dropped on 741 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: Netflix called American Murder Gabby Potito. Now, this is the 742 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: story of a twenty two year old American girl called 743 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: Gabby who embarked on a van trip with her boyfriend 744 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: Brian Laundry. Now, they made headlines in twenty twenty one 745 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: when he returned home, but she didn't. 746 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: It's all coming back. 747 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: Did she have a YouTube channel documenting the trip as well. 748 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, she actually. 749 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: Started her YouTube channel when they embarked on this trip 750 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: and she decided that she wanted to try and make 751 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: that her career. And in the documentary, it shows a 752 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: lot of the behind the scenes of the filming because 753 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: they basically had access to all of her videos. Oh 754 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: my god, and you would see a lot of moments 755 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: where there was tension between the couple and they were 756 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: arguing because Brian. 757 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,959 Speaker 2: Didn't want her to do the channel. Did she have 758 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: many followers on them? 759 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: No, Well, what's really sad is she only released one 760 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: video and the video ended up getting millions and millions. 761 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 2: Of views basically after her murder. 762 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: So it was really sad because she was so keen 763 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: to make it a success and she would have never 764 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: known that it got all of the views. 765 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 2: For the reason that. 766 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: It did, my partner and I were absolutely glued. 767 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: It was riveting. 768 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: The documentary was cut up into episodes, so we Binge 769 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: the whole thing in one night. 770 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 2: Many episodes. 771 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: There's three episodes. They're about an hour long. So we 772 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: did have quite a big night watching all of it. 773 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: But it's that sort of show you I just we 774 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: couldn't turn it off. We just kept looking at each 775 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: other just saying, this is so sad. 776 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 2: Look enjoy that binging TV. Well you can, Yeah, I will, 777 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 2: I will. 778 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: Now. I think that is all we have time for today. 779 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us for this episode. 780 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: If you have enjoyed it, could you please. 781 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: Make sure you are subscribed on Apple Podcasts and Spotify 782 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: and we would love to see where you're listening from. 783 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite things when people share where 784 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: they're listening to the podcast from. I feel like on 785 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: Fridays it's always somewhere more fun. Yeah, a lot of 786 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: people work from home on a Friday, so they might 787 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: be doing a sneaky little lunchtime war. 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