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Speaker 1: Well, Robin Lamley is joining me on the line.

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Speaker 2: As we know, she's again well one on a big

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Speaker 2: majority over the weekend, picking up twenty three hundred and

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Speaker 2: one votes on the two candidate preferred count. The COLP

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Speaker 2: is Sean Heenan on two hundred and thirty four. Now

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Speaker 2: the ALP had struggled really in all of those Central

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Speaker 2: Australia seats aside from Chancey Pake's Bush seat, and joining

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Speaker 2: us on the line is a member for Ara Lewin.

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Speaker 1: Robin Lamley. Good morning to you, Robin.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: A big congratulations to you, Robin.

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Speaker 2: And you called it in Central Australia last week when

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Speaker 2: you said you didn't expect much to change. How are

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Speaker 2: people in Alice Springs feeling about the change of government?

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Speaker 3: Well, people in US and thank you, Katie. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: I'm delighted and obviously very relieved, but people in Central

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Speaker 3: Australia are now very hopeful, hopefully that they are also

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Speaker 3: realistic though to turn this around is going to take

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Speaker 3: more than a couple of months, and it just worries

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Speaker 3: me that people will become really impatient. I mean, it

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Speaker 3: took years for this labor crime crisis to come about,

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Speaker 3: and I think it'll take quite some time for the

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Speaker 3: ceopter fixus. Yeah, we need some patients. But yeah, with

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Speaker 3: things deteriorating so badly, even over the weekend, again, it's

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Speaker 3: a big ask. People have just so had enough, Katie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can only under like, I can totally

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Speaker 2: understand why Robin, you guys have been grappling with crime

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Speaker 2: at an extreme level for a long period of time. Now,

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Speaker 2: I mean Lea Fanocchiero and her deputy Jared Malee obviously

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Speaker 2: transitioning officers or certainly the commissioner transitioning those officers police

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Speaker 2: officers from their playing clothes into their uniforms. But this

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Speaker 2: is obviously something Leofanokio wants to see happen, that high

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Speaker 2: visibility policing. It's a small move. Do you think it's

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Speaker 2: a move in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: Look, Katie, I'm just trying not to be too cynical

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Speaker 3: some slack here. Look, those symbolic sort of things are important,

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Speaker 3: and you know, Leah has to look like she's doing

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Speaker 3: something very quickly. And her options would be very very slim,

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Speaker 3: and doing things like this can I suppose have some impact?

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Speaker 3: So good Honor. She's trying hard, and as long as

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Speaker 3: people feel like she is trying, I think they'll be

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Speaker 2: Robin, you know, for the people of Alice Springs and

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Speaker 2: for yourself, what are you really hoping to see from

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Speaker 3: Well, look, Katie, turning this around is going to be

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Speaker 3: virtually impossible in the short to medium and even longer term.

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Speaker 3: So I guess just some relief, some measures that visibly

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Speaker 3: those options are so slim. I mean, who were these

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Speaker 3: We're led to believe that they may have been people

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Speaker 3: So yeah, even hearing that the council are putting some

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Speaker 3: that all helps but yes, Leah would be under and

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Speaker 3: her team will be under enormous pressure. I really don't

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Speaker 3: if things don't start to look just even slightly different.

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Speaker 3: So I feel for Leah, but you know, she's a fighter.

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Speaker 3: She's coming with her eyes open. She's not a stranger

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Speaker 1: Yes, so do I.

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Speaker 2: I think the whole of the Northern Territory is hoping

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Speaker 2: that because you know, if the territory is thriving, or

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Speaker 2: if she's thriving as the Chief Minister, you know, the

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Speaker 3: Katie. I think if I was Leah, I would just

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Speaker 3: For him to survive is really quite unfair in some

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Speaker 3: than he hasn't. But look, just keep it honest, keep

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Speaker 3: it really That would be my advice, and people will

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, Robert. I want to ask you.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure whether you've seen this, but the Australian

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Speaker 2: newspapers this morning reporting that Northern Territory police were too

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Speaker 2: nine hours before she was found allegedly murdered by her partner,

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Speaker 2: this is according to a report by Leah Mendez this

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Speaker 2: she was found dead at a home in Darwin's Northern Suburbs.

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Speaker 2: Now sources have told the Australian newspaper that the police

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Speaker 2: I'm not about to attack the police on this. I

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Speaker 3: Look, I did read that story earlier this morning, Katie,

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Speaker 3: and it just knocked me sideways. As you say, just

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Speaker 3: to fail on all front. I mean, there's just something

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Speaker 3: because we know that women in those situations are incredibly vulnerable,

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Speaker 3: So maybe they just need an absolute dedicated team that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it might be something that the new government

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Speaker 2: needs to have a look at, Robin before I let

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Speaker 2: this ministry that's going to be you know that's going

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Speaker 2: to be announced next week. We've had a few people

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Speaker 2: saying that they think you should be the speaker.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that'll happen.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'd be surprised because Leah now has a huge team,

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Speaker 3: sixteen or seventeen people. She'll have a lot of favors

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Speaker 3: to pay back. I would be surprised, but quite open

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Speaker 2: Ish, I think you'd be a great speaker, although we

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Speaker 2: sort of need you on the cross bench asking questions.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's right. Yeah, it's something I haven't done before.

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Speaker 3: But look, it's probably not going to happen, and I'll

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Speaker 3: continue to just do the job that I am doing,

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Speaker 3: and that's all that I ever wanted to be honest.

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Speaker 1: Katie, Yeah, good on you, Robin.

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Speaker 2: We're really pleased to see that result. I know a

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Speaker 2: lot of people really pleased to see that you've been

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Speaker 2: re elected. Thank you so much for your time and

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Speaker 2: for your effort. Thank you good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Robin,