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Speaker 1: Well, if you're listening to the show yesterday, you would

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Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line right now is doctor

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Speaker 1: Gavin Morris, who is the yeper in your School principal.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Gavin.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks so much for your time this morning. Now. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: iper in Your School is an Aboriginal controlled independent school

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Speaker 1: but Gavin talk us through you know a little bit

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Speaker 2: School, no worries. Yprina is a very unique school. In fact,

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Speaker 2: we're the only school in Australia who teaches in full

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Speaker 2: We were established in nineteen seventy eight as a result

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Speaker 2: forty five years. We currently have record enrollments, so we've

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Speaker 1: Obviously, this commitment then was made by the former coalition

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Speaker 2: So we I was working with both sides of politics

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Speaker 2: School and it's just a very important piece of infrastructure,

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Speaker 2: not just for the school, Katie, but also the broader

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Speaker 1: So Gavin, you know, I talk us through that because

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Speaker 2: So we certainly approach education from holistic point of view

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Speaker 2: We approach that from a very unique view point, so

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Speaker 1: School, Gavin eight point three million dollars. Obviously you know

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Speaker 1: Govin how many kids are we talking you know here

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Speaker 2: Well, we're hoping to build the infrastructure that will cater

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Speaker 2: But this really key piece of infrastructure that the next

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Speaker 1: You know, there might be some people listening this morning

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you know, kids are actually turning up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty amazing. Look, it almost brings cheesy your

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Speaker 2: some of the barriers around that. But some of the

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Speaker 2: stories and the barriers that these kids overcome so they

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Speaker 2: It's really really great stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Gavin, what a what an insightful conversation mate. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you having a chat with me this morning,

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Speaker 1: and I'd be really keen to catch up again in

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Speaker 1: this eight point three million dollars, you know, to find

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Speaker 1: out whether the government is going to actually honor that

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Speaker 1: commitment that was made by the coalition government. Please keep

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Speaker 1: us up to date. I'd be really keen to talk

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Speaker 1: to you again very soon.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Katie, that'll be fantastic. And I just want to

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Speaker 2: be really clear that you know our bipartisan approach to this,

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Speaker 2: common sense let's sit down around the table to work

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Speaker 2: out how we can get this to happen, is what

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Speaker 2: I'm calling for. We've also got support from the Northern

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Speaker 2: Territory government. The Chief Minisine attached to FILES has visited

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Speaker 2: to school a number of occasions and has provided funding

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Speaker 2: for our Sunset School program, which has been really successful.

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Speaker 2: And we've had both Ministers of Education Lauren Moss and

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Speaker 2: now even Law in the school. They're really supportive of

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Speaker 2: what we're doing. They get it. Yeah, we understand, and

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Speaker 2: I understand the complications that they face in terms of

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Speaker 2: what I'm calling for now is a bipartist in common

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Speaker 2: sense approach to get this funding over the line so

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Speaker 2: we can intend to have a significant community in need

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Speaker 2: an Alice springs Well.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Gavin Morris, you be in your school principle. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for your time this morning. It's greatly appreciated.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on Katie, you have a great

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Speaker 2: day with you too,