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Speaker 1: Shannie Grimmond was at the height of her YouTube career.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is so.

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Speaker 3: It said.

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Speaker 1: She'd hit the big time, notching up one million subscribers

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Speaker 1: and deals with the world's biggest makeup brands. But behind

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Speaker 1: closed doors, Sharnie was battling relationship doubt and tensions were

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Speaker 1: brewing in her famous friendship group.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I fucked up. I really fucked up.

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Speaker 1: In this final installment, we explore Sharne's on again, off

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Speaker 1: again romance with Jonathan sour, her life in Melbourne with

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Speaker 1: Tommy Bug, and reports of a feud with Chloe Zepp.

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Speaker 4: I good a boyfriend recently, so.

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Speaker 1: Fresh, so new, Hello and welcome to Outspoken. Now we

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Speaker 1: have a lot to cover today, so we are going

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Speaker 1: to get straight into the breakup of our time. And

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Speaker 1: that was the breakup between Shany Grimmond and Jonathan Sower.

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Speaker 1: I remember this being so shocking at the time. So

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Speaker 1: it was jely by fourteenth, twenty seventeen, and Sharnie really

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Speaker 1: broke the internet when she posted her video entitled we

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Speaker 1: Broke Up. This video wrapped up two point one million views. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it was shot only two weeks after Sharnee actually

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Speaker 1: made the call to end her two and a half

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Speaker 1: year relationship with Jonathan. She must have felt pretty sure

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Speaker 1: about things, because you know, it's all pretty fresh. Then

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Speaker 1: she didn't give herself much room to change her mind.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's because she would have had a

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Speaker 1: Jonathan was suddenly not in a lot of the content.

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Speaker 2: He was missing in action now.

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Speaker 1: She prefaced this video by saying that she knows she

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Speaker 1: doesn't owe her viewers an explanation, but she wants to

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Speaker 1: of her life and her channel that she felt like

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Speaker 1: her viewers needed to know what went down, and she

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Speaker 1: also thought it was something that viewers might learn from

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Speaker 1: and be able to relate to. Sharne wanted to make

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Speaker 1: it clear in this video that the breakup was her

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Speaker 1: decision and Jonathan didn't do anything wrong.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to what she said.

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Speaker 4: Basically, what happened was I fell out of love. And

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Speaker 4: it's so hard to say because like the last thing

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Speaker 4: that I want to do is hurt john and I

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Speaker 4: oh fuck, I mean, I had to like put myself first,

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Speaker 4: and I fucking hate hurting people. But I had to

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Speaker 4: put myself first. The last thing that I wanted to

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Speaker 4: do was hurt Jonathan. But as I said, I think

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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, your own happiness is

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Speaker 4: what's most important. So I decided to tell him that

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Speaker 4: I didn't really see, like, you know, a future like

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Speaker 4: for me. So I made the step to break it

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Speaker 4: off with him, and it was really hard.

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Speaker 1: It was a good pr rap for Jonathan, Like how

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Speaker 1: many girls would have been watching this going fuck, he's

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Speaker 1: the best boyfriend ever? Like, why is she dumping?

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Speaker 1: I felt like I needed to get the tissues out.

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Speaker 1: When I watched this again, I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: what a sweetheart is Jonathan? Like he treated her so well.

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Speaker 1: And this would have been because, as you said, Amy,

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of speculation around where had Jonathan gone,

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Speaker 1: and because he was older than her, he's a.

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Speaker 2: Very attractive looking guy.

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Speaker 1: I think people assumed, oh fuck, he must have done

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Speaker 1: her wrong and cheated on her. So she wanted to

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Speaker 1: make it clear that no one else was in the picture.

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Speaker 1: it was the fact that he was hot, but he

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Speaker 1: I think she was wowed by his looks, but then

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Speaker 1: when they started living together. She's a very bubbly person

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Speaker 1: and maybe she thought, well, we don't really have that

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Speaker 1: back and forth, we don't have that spark, And as

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Speaker 1: he said, Amy, she really spoke Jonathan up. So she

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Speaker 2: And it was clear that she felt a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of guilt for making this call, because she did break

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Speaker 1: her dogs, Bindy and Peter every day. And whilst Jonathan

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Speaker 1: did end up moving out of this apartment, Shiny made

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Speaker 1: it clear that it wasn't going to be a clean

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Speaker 2: Very close with them.

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Speaker 1: In those kind of breakups, the whole mention of you know,

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Speaker 2: To become her manager.

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't just that like she was ending things

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Speaker 1: was quite interesting because Sharnie wanted to make it clear

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Speaker 2: Here's what she said.

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Speaker 4: I know that this is the right thing to do,

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Speaker 4: but I also felt like I just made the right decision,

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Speaker 4: Like I know this right decision, and I know that

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Speaker 4: this is like what I want and one hundred percent sure.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I thought I would tell everyone, because

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Speaker 4: I'm just really happy that me and Jonathan are on

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Speaker 4: like really good terms, like we're texting right now, Like

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Speaker 4: he's still my manager. He still like represents me with

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Speaker 1: This is quite difficult knowing what is about to come,

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Speaker 1: because I almost think that two weeks was too soon

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, because Shane and Jonathan were

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Speaker 1: had to address it. And what you're alluding to is

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Speaker 1: the fact that they ended up getting back together not

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Speaker 1: moment now. Shanny did end this very dramatic video by

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Speaker 1: was copying hate before because people were speculating, Oh definitely,

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Speaker 1: And that would have been so bad because you're like,

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Speaker 1: I'm the innocent person.

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Speaker 2: I haven't even broken up with this girl.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Jonathan also instructed Shannie to say that, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we will have to say something, particularly because they were

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Speaker 1: continuing to work together, so it's all very messed up

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: Shortly after the breakup, Shanni, who was just twenty at

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Speaker 1: the time, asked her followers to weigh in on whether

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Speaker 1: she should get a boob job, so she entitled the

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Speaker 1: video I Want a boob Job.

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Speaker 2: Here's what she said.

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Speaker 3: Recently, I've been thinking about getting a boob job, and

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Speaker 3: I know that's a very serious topic, and I kind

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Speaker 3: of want to explain to you, you guys, like why I

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Speaker 3: want it, why I don't want it, and then get

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Speaker 1: Shannie went on to explain in this video that she'd

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Speaker 1: wonder if she regrets creating this video, because it wasn't

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Speaker 1: an announcement video where she'd locked in the procedure and

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Speaker 1: But it was almost like she wanted her followers to

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Speaker 1: be like, yeah, you kind of do need a boob job.

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Speaker 1: But I think in asking their opinion, it almost gave

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Speaker 1: should I get a boob job? Because and I suppose yeah.

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Speaker 1: It made a lot of her followers, as you said,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was interesting. What's also interesting the timing

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Speaker 2: Here's what she said.

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Speaker 3: The last thing that I want is for you guys

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Speaker 3: to think that you know I'm fake or that like

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Speaker 3: i'm you know, I've changed after I get my beat.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, I don't want I don't want to

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Speaker 4: That's the last thing that I want.

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Speaker 3: I love being like as natural as possible, and I

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Speaker 3: I really don't know. But you know, I know a

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Speaker 3: lot of people say to me, like, oh, I look

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Speaker 4: And my teeth. I'm like or but I don't want, like,

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Speaker 4: you know, people to be disappointed.

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Speaker 1: It is so much responsibility for a twenty year old

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Speaker 1: Sharnie is aware she's a role model to younger kids,

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Speaker 1: and you can tell she's grappling with how to make

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Speaker 1: a decision that will make her happy, but also the

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Speaker 1: fact that this decision could potentially impact others and how

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Speaker 1: they view their bodies. I do think that Shanni's mind

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Speaker 1: was made up before she asked her followers whether she

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Speaker 3: Thanks video, I'm going to be blocking because I'm going

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Speaker 3: to Sydney to get my boob consultation.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, God, they look so little today, I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: It was really sweet because Michael Finch flew over with

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Speaker 1: then that night he was back in her apartment cooking

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00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 1: dinner again. I love that she actually showed that, though

444
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: like how much like YouTubers they used to reveal so

445
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 1: much more about their life like making.

446
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 2: It juicy for the viewers.

447
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 1: In that same vlog, she did show Jonathan wheeling out

448
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 1: some old furniture and commented that he's still in the

449
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 1: process of moving out five months later, and this led

450
00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 1: people in the comment section to start speculating. So one

451
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 1: follower wrote patiently waiting for John and Sharny to announce

452
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 1: their back together, and that comment got three point four

453
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: thousand likes, whilst another said you can clearly see that

454
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: as people, Shanny.

455
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 2: And John are so mature.

456
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 1: The fact they can still hang out with no bad

457
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 1: blood and respect each other is so admirable.

458
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 2: I love them.

459
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: The baiting continued in a second vlog when Jonathan joined

460
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 1: Sharnie and Michael on their merch shoe. So side note,

461
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: this photoshoot was extremely iconic. Neither would be seen dead

462
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 1: in any of these clothes now.

463
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 2: So one of the shirts had cartoon bindies on the boobs.

464
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 2: When you say bindis that is her dog?

465
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? And we're gonna share some highlights of the shoot

466
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Speaker 1: on our Instagram and TikTok if you want to check

467
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 1: it out. You might be thinking, oh, that sounds pretty

468
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: normal because Jonathan was still her manager and this was

469
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,360
Speaker 1: a workshoot. But things got weirder later when Sharne chose

470
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: to put up a scene of her doing her makeup

471
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 1: while sitting on Jonathan's lap, and they then proceeded to

472
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: have this flirty chat back and forth about how Jonathan

473
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: works for Sharny.

474
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: Here's what they said.

475
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 4: And now I'm unemployed. Now I'm self employed. Now I

476
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 4: work myself and me.

477
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 2: You work for me as well?

478
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 4: You don't look.

479
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: Well, they manage us, so you do what is the term?

480
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 4: Then I work with you? Ah, work with me.

481
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: Followers had a field day with this video, so one

482
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: wrote the fact she was sitting on his lap while

483
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: doing her makeup ci ya, which got two point three

484
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 1: thousand likes. Now, a few weeks later, Sharney teased her

485
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 1: followers further by uploading a video where she pranked Michael

486
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: Finch that she was pregnant with Jonathan's baby. I have

487
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: to throw to the clip because Michael's reaction was amazing.

488
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 3: So you know how last night I said I had cramps.

489
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Speaker 5: Test No, You're like, are you No?

490
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 4: I'm not lying?

491
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:12,959
Speaker 5: Please tell me you're lying. Stress.

492
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 4: That's why I'm late because I have the worst grands.

493
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: What do you do?

494
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 5: I don't know? Oh my god, that's like the next level.

495
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 4: I know.

496
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 5: Did you tell John? No, you haven't told John.

497
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 4: I'm too scared.

498
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you're fucked. Okay, Step number one you

499
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 5: need to tell John a Step number two you need

500
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 5: to work out what do you want to do?

501
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: I know, like just thinking better?

502
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like you have to tell John. You have

503
00:23:59,200 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 5: to tell him.

504
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 3: Today's get it.

505
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 2: So she had hidden her camera in the back of

506
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 2: this seat.

507
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: So this was his genuine reaction to thinking that Shaney

508
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: was pregnant. It's obvious that they were still sleeping together.

509
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the thing.

510
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: It made it so clear that all of her friends

511
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: were aware that they were back together. One thing that

512
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: was so cute is Michael said that he was worried

513
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: that Bindy was going to feel replaced if Jonathan and

514
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: Shanny had a baby like that seemed to be his

515
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: major consecut Imagine how big that would have been if

516
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: she was actually pregnant with Jonathan's baby.

517
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: Like, particularly when they were on a break.

518
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you think about, for example, when Sarah's

519
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: day fell pregnant.

520
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: Would that have been what it's like?

521
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: Like would we now be seeing family vlogs of the

522
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: pet or would they still be together?

523
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 4: I wonder.

524
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Shanny was only twenty one at this stage

525
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: and Jonathan was twenty six now. A few weeks later,

526
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: Shanny addressed the rumors, saying that she'd fucked up and

527
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: the breakup was a mistake.

528
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 3: Right now, at this current moment, Jonathan and I are

529
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 3: not boyfriend and girlfriend. But let's put it this way.

530
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 3: Have you ever lost someone in your life and you thought,

531
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: I'm ready to move on with my life without them,

532
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm ready to open the next chapter of my life,

533
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 3: and then when they're gone, you're like.

534
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 4: What the Like, why did I do that? Like, sometimes

535
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: you've got to lose someone to realize how much they

536
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 4: mean to you. It's so funny like saying that, because

537
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 4: the last video I made was.

538
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I still love him so much, but

539
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: I just can't see myself with him for the rest

540
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: of my life.

541
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 4: And now I'm just like, yeah, so I fucked up.

542
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 4: I really fucked up.

543
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: This was such a juicy viewing. It was like watching

544
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: a real life soapropera. Yeah, everyone was living for these

545
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: little breadcrumbs that Shanny was throwing out there, and the

546
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: news excited her followers so much because, as I said,

547
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: they constantly romanticized this relationship. Shannie said that she would

548
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: explain more in another video because there's so much she

549
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: wants to say and she feels like she has a

550
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: lot of explaining to do.

551
00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 4: Well.

552
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: Sharni broke the Internet for a second time when she

553
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: released a video called Explaining Why John and I Got

554
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: back Together. This video attracted one million views. So for context,

555
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: this video came out six months after the initial breakup video,

556
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: and Shanny was very nervous to put this out because

557
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: she didn't want people weighing in with their opinions, which

558
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 1: of course they were going to do, and she explained

559
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,719
Speaker 1: that Following the breakup, they went their separate ways and

560
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: she felt really happy and didn't regret anything. And she

561
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: said that they stayed in contact only on a professional

562
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: level and were discussing work opportunities. But things really changed

563
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: four months into the breakup when she spotted Jonathan on

564
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: a night out.

565
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: Here's what Shannie said.

566
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 4: Four also months went by of being broken up with him,

567
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: and I remember I really started to miss having him around,

568
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 4: and it didn't really hit me until I saw him

569
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 4: when I was out one night. So just imagine me

570
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 4: and my friends dancing, having a great time, and then

571
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 4: little Jonathan walks past me and I look over and

572
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, the dog's totally ruined. That moment, BINDI,

573
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 4: I remember just thinking, what the fuck have I done?

574
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 4: Like it literally hit me like a ton of bricks, Like, yeah,

575
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: I was missing him, Yeah, I missed having him around.

576
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 4: I missed him so much. But like at this point,

577
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: when he walked past me and I saw him in person,

578
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: I was like, holely, shit, I've made the biggest mistake

579
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 4: of my life. Like at this point, I can genuinely

580
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 4: say this is the biggest mistake I've ever made.

581
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: I want to know, was this a jealousy thing?

582
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: Like was he chatting to other girls at the nightclub

583
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: or did he just look really hot when he did?

584
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: Was the hot thing?

585
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: Like?

586
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: I think?

587
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes probably like when she was in a relationship, she

588
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: probably thought, oh my god, there's all these other good

589
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: looking guys out there, and then suddenly when you're single,

590
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: you never seem to come across as like all these

591
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: fucking duds. So true, well, I mean, maybe duds is

592
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: be That night, she told her friends that she needed

593
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: to get Jonathan back, and she said that she went

594
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: home distraught and she hatched a plan to speak to

595
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: him the next day, so she begged to meet up

596
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: with him, and he finally agreed, so she met at

597
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: his house, and she said that she was too scared

598
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: and nervous to tell him how she actually felt because

599
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: she was convinced that he wouldn't take her back. So

600
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: she intended on saying, I don't want you to be

601
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: my manager anymore, I want you to be my boyfriend,

602
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: but she instead just said I don't want you to

603
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: be my manager. She didn't follow up with the boyfriend thing,

604
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: so it caused an argument and she left there in tears.

605
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 1: Is that the worst, like you know when you rehearse

606
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: something in your head and then it just doesn't come

607
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: out right.

608
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: Well, she said that.

609
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: She'd never felt more upset, and it got to the

610
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: stage that night where she almost called herself an ambulance.

611
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: And she was also texting Jonathan saying that she needed help,

612
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: and he said that he really thinks that she should

613
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: talk to someone professionally, as she wasn't coping well with

614
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: the breakup and he was just so confused by it

615
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: all who you would be? So the next day, Sharnie

616
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: said she convinced Jonathan to meet her during his lunch

617
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: break at sushi, and he was very confused by this point,

618
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: so she finally got the nerve to ask for a

619
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: second chance, and he was shocked. Yeah, and he laid

620
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: down the law, saying that if he were to take

621
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: her back, she needed to prove to him that she

622
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: actually wanted to be with him and she wasn't going

623
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: to change her mind again. So from that point on,

624
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: Sharnie was doing all of the grafting. She was constantly

625
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: asking him to dinners and movies, and they started catching

626
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: up in secret because she didn't want her followers being

627
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: able to weigh in and potentially ruin something that was

628
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: so delicate at that point. So with Sharnie and Jonathan

629
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: back together, they set off for Sydney for an appearance

630
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: with Princess Polly and Benefits Cosmetic and Michael was there,

631
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: of course in toe because he and Shanny were doing

632
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: a meat and greet in the city. So they arrived

633
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: on a large bus to thousands of screaming fans dressed

634
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: in their merchandise.

635
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is so.

636
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god.

637
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: Shany and Michael ended up posing with fans for five

638
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: hours and it was absolute pandemonium, with fans chasing.

639
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: Their car as they left.

640
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 1: They also were given a lot of presents, so Shany

641
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: was given countless bouquets of flowers and fanner and lolly.

642
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: It was just crazy.

643
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: I remember all of Michael Finch's fanner like they were

644
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: like the cutest cartoons of him. There was some drama

645
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: that went down ahead of the meat and greet though,

646
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: so before the event, someone tweeted Michael saying that we're

647
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: going to egg him. So Princess poly and Benefits had

648
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: to put on extra security guards.

649
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: Luckily he did not get egged.

650
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: Now that Shani and Jonathan were reunited. They traveled to

651
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: Balley to celebrate their joint birthdays. I for some reason,

652
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: I really stand the fact that they had the same birthdays.

653
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: It was just very cute. That should be pretty shit

654
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: to be honest, though.

655
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: Well, Jonathan actually said in this flog that he would

656
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: put up a post for Shany's birthday and his friends

657
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: would be like, oh, happy birthday, Shany, and they'd all

658
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: forget that it was his birthday. Now. Whilst things seemed

659
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: to be going well up until this point, the Barley

660
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: trip really showed that cracks were starting to appear in

661
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: their relationship because they filmed a couple Q and A

662
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: and they dived into the breakup and the future, and

663
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: it was clear that they weren't really on the same page.

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Speaker 1: And in this Q and A they answered a lot

665
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: of awkward questions, including did Jonathan get back with Shanny

666
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: because she got breast in plants? So I showed that

667
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: they went there. So Jonathan dropped a bomb by saying

668
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: that they actually got together before Sharanny got them done.

669
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Speaker 1: So he flew to Sydney to bring Shanny home from

670
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Speaker 1: her surgery. Things got even more awkward when followers ask

671
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: questions about kids and marriage, and Sharnie appeared hurt by

672
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Speaker 1: Jonathan's response, let's have a listen.

673
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Speaker 4: You and John ever going to get married?

674
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 5: Oh?

675
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 4: You're ever going to?

676
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 5: Well?

677
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, if we're still together, it's a dance. Do you

678
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 4: feel bad for saying that?

679
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: No, like that's me, isn't?

680
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah? No, Well, like obviously i'd being realistic.

681
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, we don't we're not dilected.

682
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: No, not like that.

683
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: I don't mean, I don't know that.

684
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna.

685
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. That's all that matters to me.

686
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: This made it sound as though Jonathan didn't feel very

687
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: secure in the relationship, because, if we remember, Shanny broke

688
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: up with him because she couldn't see a future with him,

689
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: so he probably didn't want to make himself look foolish

690
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: by gushing about marriage in kids when things were still

691
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: pretty fresh. It could have been a sour point for

692
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: them as well, talking about kids in marriage because there

693
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: was a bit of an age gap. In another question,

694
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Speaker 1: Jonathan revealed that when he and Shany started talking again,

695
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: he had a big guard up. But now they're back together,

696
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: they're back to where they.

697
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 2: Used to be.

698
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: It was awkward because Shany buttered in being like is

699
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: that a good thing?

700
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 3: Though?

701
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: Because it almost sounded.

702
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: As though they were back to that stale time in

703
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: their relationship.

704
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: Now.

705
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: Everyone's fears were confirmed when Shany released a Q and

706
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: A called The Breakup, Happiness and New Beginnings, and in it,

707
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: she confirmed that she and Jonathan had broken up for

708
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: real this time, and she doesn't want to make it

709
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: a big deal. She said, the answer is simple, it's

710
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: not going to work between us. And she was very

711
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: mindful that her followers might be emotional about the breakup,

712
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: saying this.

713
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Speaker 4: I'm just sorry if it upset you guys at all,

714
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 4: because I know everyone looks online and they see all

715
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 4: these couples and you think, oh my god, they have

716
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 4: the perfect relationship. Trust me, you literally have no idea

717
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: what goes on behind the camera. Like I'm sitting in

718
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 4: here filming this video. It's going to take me like

719
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: twenty minutes and then you go back to like your

720
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 4: normal life. So what I'm trying to say is, like,

721
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: you see the smallest portion of someone's relationship or someone's life,

722
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 4: and I know it can look so good from online,

723
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 4: and like, obviously you're only going to post like the

724
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 4: positives of the relationship, and that's what I did. So

725
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: it creates this like mental image in people's head, like,

726
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 4: oh my god, they're so perfect, They're so cute. I

727
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: can't wait for them to have kids. I can't wait

728
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 4: for them to get married. But like you've just got

729
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 4: to think about like it's like it's not perfect. Like

730
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 4: every relationship that you see it is not perfect at all.

731
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Speaker 1: I really like the way that Sharne addressed the fact

732
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: that although their relationship looked picture perfect online, it was

733
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: far from that. And at this stage, Sharanni said that

734
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: Jonathan would continue on as her manager, but they're both

735
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: ready to move on separately in their lives. Following the breakup,

736
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: Sharni took a step back from sharing about her private life.

737
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: She was still active on YouTube, but concentrated on tre

738
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: videos or makeup tutorials. So in a video entitled The Truth,

739
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: Sharny revealed Jonathan was no longer her manager.

740
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 2: Here's what she said.

741
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: Jonathan used to be my manager, and obviously breaking up

742
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: and everything, I just felt like it was the best

743
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: thing to just separate that completely from my work, just

744
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: because I feel like work is so important and I

745
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: just didn't want to jeopardize it at all. So I

746
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I think it's time that we both

747
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: move on from that chapter of management. I just didn't

748
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 3: think it was really healthy. So I then went over

749
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: to someone else, and then someone else, and then someone else,

750
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: And it was just so hard to find the right

751
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: manager and for someone to be able to do what

752
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: I wanted them to do.

753
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: This was the right decision for both Shanni and Jonathan.

754
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: There is just no way that you could continue working

755
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: alongside your ex and keep your finances.

756
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: Tied together like that, because surely.

757
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan would have still been getting ten percent of every

758
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: one of Shanny's.

759
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: Deals, maybe fifteen percent.

760
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, things would have just gotten so messy

761
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: once they both started dating new people. It's interesting because

762
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: Sharnie also used the video to tease that she was

763
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: coming out with her own brand very soon, which is

764
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: even more reason to cut ties financially with you. Yeah,

765
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: and it was quite sad because this wasn't your happy,

766
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: typical Shany video. You could see in her eyes that

767
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: she looked really sad and her tone was all off,

768
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: and she had said that she had been going through

769
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: a lot. She admitted that she had been struggling badly

770
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: with anxiety, which had led her to feeling insecure and

771
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: unconfident and not wanting to film. And she said that

772
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: when she feels anxious, she goes into her own little bubble,

773
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: which isn't healthy for her. She was really honest in

774
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: this video, so she said she's seeking support from a

775
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,959
Speaker 1: psychologist and her best friend Chloe was also a great

776
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: support system to her. She's mentioned that she was spending

777
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: more and more time in Melbourne with Chloe as well.

778
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: When I think about it, Shani was the first person

779
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: I ever heard speak openly about anxiety. It was before

780
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: people people freely spoke about their mental health, and I

781
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: think Shanny's openness about it really helped break down stigma

782
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: and paved the way for others to discuss how they

783
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: were feeling.

784
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

785
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: Now, at the end of twenty eighteen, a new man

786
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: entered the scene, Carlton footballer Tommy bug. Now, Tommy was

787
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: playing football in Melbourne and he was living with Chloe

788
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: Zepp and Mitchell Orville. So Mitch's dad, Mark Orville, and

789
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: his brother both played AFL, so Mitch is very connected

790
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: in that world. And Tommy also ran a talent management

791
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: agency called Zeus, which Chloe and Mitch were both signed

792
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: up to. Yeah, and Shannie met Tommy while she was

793
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: visiting Chloe in Melbourne and they immediately hit it off.

794
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: It was quite interesting because, unlike her past relationship with Jonathan,

795
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: Shanny kept the start of this relationship very much under wraps,

796
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: so they dated for about three months before Sharney announced

797
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: to her YouTube followers that she was moving to Melbourne

798
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: to be with Tommy.

799
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: She said, I got a boyfriend recently, very fresh, so new.

800
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 3: IM sure you guys know, if you keep up to

801
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: date with like my Instagram and stuff or like Snapchat,

802
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: probably propost the most on Snapchat about our relationship. But yeah,

803
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: for the most part, it is quite private for now

804
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: because it is so new. But he lives in Melbourne

805
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: and it's honestly the worst doing long distance relationships. Like

806
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 3: we've tried it for I mean, we've been like, I guess,

807
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: like trying to do it like this for like three months.

808
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: This was a really hard decision for Shannie as she'd

809
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: be moving away from her family and also Michael Finch,

810
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: who were all in Brisbane, and Michael wasn't happy about

811
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: the move and Michael moved from Victoria to be closer

812
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 1: to Shanny in Brisbane. That's why he was really upset

813
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: because he thought, oh, we can film together. Yeah, And

814
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty clear that Sharne had very strong

815
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: feelings for Tommy because she said that she is willing

816
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: to make these changes for him. It would have helped

817
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: having Chloe and Mitch also in Melbourne. At least she

818
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: wasn't moving without any friends. Yeah. It was interesting because

819
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: when she first spoke about Tommy in this flog, she

820
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: did preface that long distance is so tough and that

821
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: is the only thing that they fight about and when

822
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: they're not together, they get frustrated by the distance. Well

823
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: it would be hard because well you've done long distance.

824
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but I was also going.

825
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: To say, like Tommy was playing AFL football at the time.

826
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: You can imagine he was like he's a good looking guy.

827
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: You can imagine there would have been girls after him.

828
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: But it's a big move moving from Brisbane to Melbourne.

829
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: Cold Melbourne. Brisbone's beautiful and warm and sunny, and then

830
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 2: Melbourne is so different. It's just such a different vibe.

831
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean, the initial plan for Shanny was that she

832
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: was going to move to Melbourne for nine months and

833
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: then come back to Brisbane every two weeks. Now, very

834
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: soon into Shaney actually moving to Melbourne, Tommy shocked the

835
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: sporting world by retiring from football to focus on his

836
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: talent management agency. And at this stage he was already

837
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: managing Shany and also Chloe and Mitch. So I mean,

838
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: Chiny must have a thing for managers. This is a

839
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: second boyfriend who is her manager. I remember at the

840
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: time everyone was kind of blaming Shanny for the fact

841
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: that Tommy Bugger retired because it was so odd because

842
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: he was in the prime of his footy career and

843
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: to pull the pin like that.

844
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

845
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still successful, zoots. I'm assuming he's doing

846
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: all right.

847
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have heard.

848
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: I mean I heard a couple of years ago that

849
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: they were opening up agencies in each state.

850
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I actually don't think Shanny was happy about it,

851
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: because in a.

852
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: Vogue she said, oh, I've just moved here and now

853
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: he's not even playing anymore. So I don't actually think

854
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: it was down to him. You at least want to

855
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: go to a couple of the games. You want to

856
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: be a well Tommy told the media at the time

857
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: that his passion for the game had dwindled and his

858
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: focus was increasingly turning to his business. He said, in

859
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: the space of seven months that Zoots had gone from

860
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: a startup to a multi million dollar firm. You'd also

861
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: assume that living with Chloe, zeb Mitchell Orville who were

862
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: you know, they were on the party scene at the time,

863
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: and also having your girlfriend as an influencer, he would

864
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: have seen this life style that they were leading, Like

865
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: when you're in AFL football. Yes, you were getting good money,

866
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: but you're having to get up early every day go

867
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: to training. No, but I'm saying there's a lot of

868
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: commitment to it. And then he's seen probably people earning

869
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: even more than him for perceivably not doing as much work.

870
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.

871
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: It's not like being an AFO footballer is your typical

872
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: nine to five, but you actually have to put in

873
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: a lot of time like training and the diet, and

874
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot of commitment.

875
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: Evolved well.

876
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: Sadly, it wasn't long before rumors of a feud between

877
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: Chloe and Shany broke out, because out of nowhere, Chloe

878
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: and Shani unfollowed each other, and you know, I take

879
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: my hat off to them because they both kept the

880
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: fight offline, but it still did lead to a lot

881
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: of speculation, and a micro influencer called Sheridan O'Malley, who

882
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: was friends with Michael Finch, spoke out about the feud

883
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. So I want to point out that

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Speaker 1: these are all allegations. So Sheridan claims that the few

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Speaker 1: started back in early twenty nineteen after Shaney moved to

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Speaker 1: Melbourne to be with Tommy Bug, and it's rumored that

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Speaker 1: Shiny actually met Tommy while she and Jonathan were on

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Speaker 1: a break. Now, Sheridan claimed in this video that Tommy

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Speaker 1: was cheating on Shanny and Chloe knew about it, so allegedly,

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Speaker 1: again this is not confirmed. Allegedly, Chloe confronted Tommy about

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Speaker 1: the rumors, but Shaney told her to stay out of

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Speaker 1: it and was very angry that Chloe got involved because

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Speaker 1: she just moved to Melbourne to be with him and

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Speaker 1: she didn't want to hear about it. Oh, that is

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Speaker 1: so tough for both Shany and Chloe because in this situation,

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Speaker 1: if it is true, Yeah, if it's true and Tommy cheated,

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Speaker 1: he's the fucking dirt bag who's putting each of them

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Speaker 1: in this really awkward situation. Because sometimes if you're the

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Speaker 1: friend and you reveal this horrible news about someone's boyfriend,

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Speaker 1: it gets kind of turned on you and you're like

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Speaker 1: you're scene as I mean, you're the messenger, but you're

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Speaker 1: seen as the person providing really bad news. Well, it'd

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Speaker 1: be particularly awkward for Chloe and Mitch because if you're

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Speaker 1: living with someone, you're going to see her there bringing

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Speaker 1: back at nighttime now. Sheridan also claims that Chloe and

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Speaker 1: Mitch sat Shany down and told her this guy is

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Speaker 1: bad news and you need to break up with him.

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Speaker 1: The other rumor floating around is that the feud is

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Speaker 1: down to active wear. So just as Chloe brought out

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Speaker 1: her new active wear line called Zep, Shanny got signed

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Speaker 1: as a gym Shark ambassador. So it's rumored that this

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Speaker 1: caused tension between the pair. It's a hard one because

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Speaker 1: these are all just rumors. We don't actually know what

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Speaker 1: went down. Shany and Chloe have never addressed it. It

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Speaker 1: is pretty common, though, to have a friendship breakdown in

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Speaker 1: your early twenties.

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Speaker 2: It's such a relatable thing. So many people go through it.

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Speaker 2: It's always when boys are involved.

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Speaker 1: Wait first, it's yeah, they always come in and ruin everything.

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Speaker 1: Now this is where things get interesting, because Tommy and

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Speaker 1: Shanny broke up in August twenty twenty, and Shanny blamed

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Speaker 1: the long distance because she only ended up spending five

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Speaker 1: months in Melbourne at the end and moved back to

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Speaker 1: Brisbane and they both decided that well, long term she

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Speaker 1: didn't want to live in Melbourne and long term he

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Speaker 1: didn't want to live in Brisbane. Now, Shanne posted on

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Speaker 1: her Instagram story saying I can say from the bottom

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Speaker 1: of my heart that I've never had so much love

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Speaker 1: and respect for another human. Now it sounded like they

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Speaker 1: were on very friendly terms, but speculation started to grow

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Speaker 1: that Tommy was the reason for the feud between Chloe

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Speaker 1: and Shanny, because three weeks after the breakup, a photo

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Speaker 1: emerged of Shanny meeting Chloe's baby Artie, and this was

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Speaker 1: the first time they posted publicly with one another, and

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Speaker 1: this really strengthened the rumor that their fight had something

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Speaker 1: to do with Tommy. It surprises me when looking back

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Speaker 1: that three months later Shanni met a DJ from the

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Speaker 1: Sunshine Coast called Jacob Tompkins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe it happened so quick.

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Speaker 1: Yeahh that just seems like I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: to do with COVID or what, but that just seems

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Speaker 1: like really different timing. So, as well as DJing, Jacob

943
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Speaker 1: was also a part time model and three years Shanny's junior.

944
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Speaker 1: We'd never really seen her date younger. But maybe this

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Speaker 1: was because they're still together now. Maybe she needed to

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Speaker 1: go for a younger guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which has got good taste.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So they instantly hit it off and they started dating,

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Speaker 1: and he ended up appearing in a handful of Sharny's vlogs.

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Speaker 1: I can't say that I know Jacob like I know

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Sower because this is when Sharanny really took a

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Speaker 1: step back from filming and she put all of her

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Speaker 1: effort into building her swimwear brand, Silk Swim. So she

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Speaker 1: enlisted the help of Chloe Zepp and Hannah Orville to

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Speaker 1: model alongside her in the first campaign, and not surprisingly,

957
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: the first launch sold out in just minutes. But Shanny

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Speaker 1: was very clever because she knew that in order to

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Speaker 1: have longevity in the business, she couldn't just rely on

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Speaker 1: her name, so she started to build a brand that

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Speaker 1: could stand alone without her being the face of it.

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Speaker 1: So with their second drop, she wanted to ensure that

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Speaker 1: the line was inclusive and that all women felt like

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Speaker 1: they were reflected in it, which was It's pretty revolutionary

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Speaker 1: for the time. Now five years on, this business has

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Speaker 1: grown from strength to strength and just recently she hit

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand followers on Silkswim's Instagram account Sadly, we

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Speaker 1: haven't seen a YouTube video from Shanni since twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: but after listening to our series, Shannie has declared she

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00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: misses her followers and she misses sharing about her life

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Speaker 1: whilst a YouTube pretend doesn't appear to be on the horizon.

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Speaker 1: Sharni said she will be sharing more about her life

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Speaker 1: on TikTok and I can't wait because after going through

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Speaker 1: this whole series, kind of I'd forgotten how much I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed Chany's contact. Yeah, and she just seems like one

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Speaker 1: of those old friends that maybe you haven't caught up

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Speaker 1: for coffee with for a while, but you'd really like to. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I would highly recommend people going back and rewatching some

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Speaker 1: of her old videos because she is just so natural

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Speaker 1: at speaking to the camera. I feel like I should

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Speaker 1: have a thesis in Shany Grimman by now because I

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Speaker 1: have put.

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Speaker 2: This Deep Dive together.

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Speaker 1: That is where we are going to leave you though.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to this Deep Dive series.

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Speaker 1: If you have enjoyed it, could you please let us

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Speaker 1: you left a five star review.

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Speaker 4: Two.

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Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the

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Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to

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Speaker 1: elders past and present and don't forget to follow Outspoken

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Speaker 1: on Instagram and on TikTok. We're Outspoken Underscore the Underscore podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can also follow Sophie, Kate and I on there too.

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Speaker 1: We are going to be putting up a lot of

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Speaker 1: nostalgic content about Shanny Yilm there, so please check it out.