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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning one point seven w SAI.

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Speaker 2: This week marks ten years since we watched sixteen year

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Speaker 2: old Jessica Watson sail the world's solo absolutely unbelievable circumnavigating

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Speaker 2: the globe two thousand and nine, sixteen years old. So

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Speaker 2: if someone knows anything about social distancing and how to

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Speaker 2: deal in isolation, it's going to be Jessica. She's on

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Speaker 2: Insight tonight on SBS talking about exactly this, and she

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Speaker 2: joins us now, Jessica, Hello, Hey.

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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's great to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: The last time I think we spoke to you was

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Speaker 4: when you actually did it, so you would be what

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Speaker 4: twenty seven now, Yeah, coming.

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Speaker 1: Up to twenty seven, twenty six. I got home a

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Speaker 1: few days before my seventeenth birthday. It's really really pretty

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Speaker 1: close to ten years ago now.

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Speaker 2: It's still an extraordinary feat. When I look at every

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Speaker 2: sixteen nine year old, I know, and I've got one

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Speaker 2: of my own at home, that what you did was

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Speaker 2: absolutely extraordinary. But are there lessons you learned from that

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Speaker 2: that we can can we raise your rain somehow to

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Speaker 2: help us through this.

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Speaker 1: I might find some strange things, few screws loose. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's how I was able to do it, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's something a lot of people have been asking lately,

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Speaker 1: and it's an interesting one. I mean, there's just possibly

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Speaker 1: some things that work for people. I learned really that

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Speaker 1: I had to take responsibility for my own head pretty

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Speaker 1: pretty dramatically. There's no one out there to drag you

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Speaker 1: out for a nice cream, will cheer you up, So

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Speaker 1: I realized it was kind of up to me to

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Speaker 1: keep my head in line. And I think I also

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Speaker 1: learned that I just had to break you down, like

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Speaker 1: you can't take on a whole ocean ahead of you

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Speaker 1: on a bad day, So I had to kind of

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Speaker 1: give myself these smaller milestones to work towards, and not

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Speaker 1: a good days, you could kind of get your head

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Speaker 1: around the bigger journey ahead of me. But yeah, otherwise

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Speaker 1: obviously enjoying the simple things too. It's pretty hard to

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Speaker 1: feel in a bad mood when you've got music blasting

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Speaker 1: and you know, nice sun sets.

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Speaker 3: All the like.

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Speaker 1: So I did learn to appreciate those simple things.

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Speaker 2: When you say to break it down to the task

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Speaker 2: in front of you, as opposed to not taking on

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Speaker 2: an ocean. What were the tasks in front of you.

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Speaker 2: They were pretty much having to take on an ocean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't want to think about that

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Speaker 1: when you're cold and wet and haven't slept. So when

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Speaker 1: you break it down to that next set of milestone,

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Speaker 1: whether it's sort of a leg of a voyage or

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Speaker 1: you know, on a real bad day, you're just thinking

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Speaker 1: about the next teen uticle miles ahead of you, it's

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Speaker 1: a pretty terrible analogy for the silent trip that it

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Speaker 1: sometimes call the case of one foot in front of another?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and do you still sail? Do you get out there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely? I love it more than ever. It's more

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Speaker 1: of a weekend hobby these days obviously right now, not

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Speaker 1: doing a lot of it. I've done in Victoria these days,

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Speaker 1: and they've restricted a lot of boating, but I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: keen as the restriction bees. Do you have to get

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Speaker 1: back out on the water.

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Speaker 4: Do you think you at twenty seven, almost now, would

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Speaker 4: you embark on this now? Do you think there was

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Speaker 4: a nice bit of naive to you about you at sixteen,

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Speaker 4: thinking oh yeah, I can do this.

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Speaker 1: There's definitely something I suppose now it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: dacious teenage mindset that maybe allowed me to do that.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it again, but it would mean having

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Speaker 1: the same boat and all those use of preparation over again.

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Speaker 1: And to be honest, it be much nice suggested to

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Speaker 1: do it. Would stops along the way and see some

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Speaker 1: of the cool places of sales straight past.

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Speaker 2: I'd stay in a hotel every nast drink nice drink. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and yet I wrot I see that on board you

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Speaker 2: were making your own bread and making cupcakes.

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Speaker 1: They weren't great, I admit.

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Speaker 2: Did you catch any food along the way?

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Speaker 1: Like? Do? Were you eat?

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Speaker 2: Catching fish and eating the wings of seagulls?

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Speaker 1: So the entire two hundred and ten days of the voyage,

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Speaker 1: twenty three thousand nordmal miles and I caught a grand

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Speaker 1: total of a single fish. It wasn't a very good record.

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Speaker 1: So actually, towards the end of the trip you would

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Speaker 1: get a few little squid and flying fish. It would

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Speaker 1: jump onto the deck, and I did resought to eat

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Speaker 1: you them. Oh, not through hunger, though I had plenty of.

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Speaker 4: The five Yeah, right, so you'd cooked the squid. It

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Speaker 4: wasn't like you were down to the urine drinking stage.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I had more than enough food on board.

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Speaker 1: But I suppose it was a case of wanting to

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Speaker 1: you get you can get it bored, so you're looking

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Speaker 1: for a variety.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're not like bear grills, like bar grills. He'll

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Speaker 3: be at home, he's not even in the wilds anymore,

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Speaker 3: and he's drinking. He's urine bad. We've got to tap here.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, No, definitely well.

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Speaker 2: Jonesy and I have often said that if we had

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Speaker 2: to go on a journey and you were given rations,

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Speaker 2: we'd eat it all before lunchtime day one.

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Speaker 3: I would have got out of Sydney Harbor and all

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Speaker 3: our rations would be gone.

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Speaker 2: And you'd be looking for squid. Did you have any

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Speaker 2: issues with making your food last?

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Speaker 1: Well, my team will wants ahead of me. Mum was

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Speaker 1: it was the main person in charge of the food,

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Speaker 1: and she cleverly put everything in two weekly bags, so

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Speaker 1: that the intentional is that I would sort of eat

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Speaker 1: through each bag and not just feed all the good

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Speaker 1: stuff at the start and leave myself for the whole

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Speaker 1: of really boring tin vegetables at the end. I did

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Speaker 1: run out of tomato sauce quite early on both which

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Speaker 1: as a teenage girl I found that quite problematic. Mum

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Speaker 1: tells me there was enough to cater for the entire voyage.

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Speaker 1: It was my amount that I was using.

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Speaker 3: That was the issue having it on.

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Speaker 1: I don't know anything freeze ride food, tim foods. You

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Speaker 1: need a bit of tomatoes enough?

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Speaker 3: And how clean was your room? Just as a sixteen

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Speaker 3: year old.

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Speaker 1: Look, it wasn't always perfect, I have to admit, but

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Speaker 1: the reality of being at sea is and you know,

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Speaker 1: in the worst storms the boat was rolled upside down,

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Speaker 1: a Taylor's court being knocked down. So in a situation

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Speaker 1: like that, it's actually incredibly dangerous to have loose objects

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Speaker 1: around the cabin. I mean, if something can become something

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Speaker 1: quite simple can become a sort of flying missile. So

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Speaker 1: I did actually have to be pretty good at keeping

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Speaker 1: tidy whenever I got a bad weather forecast.

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Speaker 3: It feel extraordinary to about extraordinary journey and you look

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Speaker 3: at it.

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Speaker 4: Actually probably say for doing that than going on the

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Speaker 4: Ruby Princess these days, So.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 4: You can catch Chess on tonight on Insite eight point

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Speaker 4: thirty on SBS.

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Speaker 3: Jessica Watson, it's always a treat. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 3: before another ten years though, I think I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's having really nice to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Join the and Amanda in the morning at one point seven.

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Speaker 1: Tell you sm