1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to How I Work, a show about the tactics 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: used by the world's most successful people to get so 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: much out of their day. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: I'm your host, doctor Amantha Imba. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm an organizational psychologist, the founder of behavioral science consultancy Inventium, 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: and I'm obsessed with finding ways to optimize my work day. 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Today's episode is another mini episode where I share some 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: interesting research from the world of science and psychology and 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: hopefully turn that into something practical that you can use. 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: So today we're talking about team collaboration in the remote 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: working world. So look, building a great team I think 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: was hard enough when the office was a place where 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: we all gathered and worked from But now, in this 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: new reality of working from home the majority of the time, 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: helping your team collaborate effectively has become even more challenging, 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: but all the more important. So I want to share 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: with you three evidenced backed ways that you can turbocharge 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: collaboration within your team. So firstly, hold meaningful meetings. 19 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: Let me explain what I mean by that. 20 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: Now, most meetings I think alect Dementors member Dementors from 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: Harry Potter, They. 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: Sack the life out of us. 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: This happens because most meetings are poorly prepared and inefficient. 24 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: A survey of thirty eight thousand people by Microsoft revealed 25 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: that sixty nine percent of people feelm meetings aren't productive, 26 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: and research also suggests that ninety percent of us daydream 27 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: in meetings and seventy three percent of us use time 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: and meetings to do other work. Ha Now, however, meetings 29 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: play a critical role in team collaboration as a large 30 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: amount of teamwork happens within them, and in addition, more 31 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: than fifteen percent of a person's job satisfy action is 32 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 1: based on how happy they are with the meetings they attend. Now, 33 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: quite a while ago, maybe a year ago, I had 34 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: Brian Scootemore on the show, who is the founder and 35 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: CEO of one eight hundred Got Chunk in America, and 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: he refuses to attend meetings unless they have a PAYOT, 37 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: which stands for purpose, Agenda and outcomes. 38 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: So Brian explained to me on the podcast. 39 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: He said that for every meeting, someone has to specify 40 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: the purpose, the outcome, and a brief agenda, and it 41 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's a ten minute. 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: Meeting or a one hour meeting. 43 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: He basically says, if there's no PAYOA, the meeting doesn't happen. 44 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: Now. 45 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: To further aid in creating better meetings, give people clear roles. 46 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: Every meeting needs a facilitator and a scribe, so nominate 47 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: these upfront. The facilitator's job is to ensure the discussion 48 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: is kept on track and the intended outcomes of the 49 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: meeting are achieved. And the scribe obviously takes notes on 50 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: the critical points and maybe key decisions, and they might 51 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: also be the person nominated with making sure that next. 52 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: Steps actually happen. Now. 53 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: Finally, on the topic of meetings, given we spend so 54 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: much time in them, so it is actually estimated that 55 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: the average exec spends twenty three hours per week in meetings, 56 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: make sure that you invest time in training people, your 57 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: fellow team members, perhaps how to conduct great meetings. Research 58 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: has shown that only twenty five percent of workers have 59 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: received formal training in how to conduct effective meetings. 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: No wonder they're so bad. Okay. 61 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: The second strategy is I'm calling fight then unite, so 62 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: great teams have great debates. University of California, Berkeley management 63 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: professor Morton Hanson, who actually termed the phrase fight than 64 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: new unite, found that teams that are able to fight 65 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: in that they have healthy and active debates and their 66 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: new knight agree on a decision, are far more effective 67 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: in achieving their outcomes. You might remember a few months 68 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: ago I had Paul Migliorini, who at the time was 69 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: head of Amazon Web Services for Australia and New Zealand. 70 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: He talked to me about one of Amazon's fourteen leadership principles, 71 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: which is disagree and commit. So at Amazon, people are 72 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: encouraged to have robust, data driven debates, but rather than 73 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: strive for consensus, it's about finding the best solution for 74 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: the customer, so Paul explained to me. He says that 75 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be mild about making decisions and we shouldn't 76 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: be consensus based because if we land on the wrong answer, 77 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: it's going to mean a bad outcome for the customer. 78 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: So to have effective debate, Hanson Morton Hanson, who I 79 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: mentioned before, suggests showing up to every meeting prepared and 80 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: having a point of view that is delivered with data 81 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: and conviction. And I mean that might sound obvious, but 82 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: how often do you turn up to meetings unprepared? I 83 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: think this happens quite a lot, but it's also critical 84 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: in the meeting that you stay open to other views 85 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: and ultimately let the best argument win even if isn't 86 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: yours o caave. Third and final tip I have for 87 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: you is to practice disciplined collaboration. So in his book 88 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: Great at Work, Morton Hanson talks about this idea of 89 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: discipline collaboration and reminds us that the goal of collaboration 90 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: is not collaboration, it's to achieve the goals that have 91 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: been set for the team. More collaboration does not always 92 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: lead to better outcomes, so instead Morton recommends being disciplined 93 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: with collaboration. People obviously need to avoid working in silos 94 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: and under collaborating, but equally people need to avoid collaborating 95 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: with others unnecessarily. So to decide whether or not to 96 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: collaborate and start by working out whether there's a compelling 97 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: reason for the proposed collaboration. If there isn't, stop right there, 98 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: but if there is, make sure that there's a unifying 99 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: goal that is set that excites the team, and finally, 100 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: reward the results, not the activities that are driven by 101 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: the collaboration. So by following these three strategies, you'll have 102 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: turbo charged the way your team collaborates in the remote 103 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: working world, and if and when your team does eventually 104 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: head back to the office, effective collaboration will feel like 105 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: a walk in the park. That is it for today's show. 106 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed this episode. If you feel there's 107 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: some useful stuff in there, maybe for the team that 108 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: you work with, or maybe for a friend of yours 109 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: that is struggling with maybe their team's behavior, why. 110 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: Not share this episode with them. 111 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: And finally, if you're enjoying how I work, I would 112 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: love it if you can leave a little review, maybe 113 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: a star rating, or maybe a few words in Apple 114 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: podcasts or wherever you're listening to this from, because it 115 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: is awesome to get feedback from listeners. So thank you 116 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: very much if you have done that, or if you 117 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: plan to do that. So that's it for today Instrum, 118 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: and I will see you next time.